2015-16 Lakers Training Camp Recap: Day 4

The Los Angeles Lakers were short a couple bodies for Day 4 of training camp in Hawaii. D’Angelo Russell participated in approximately the first 15 minutes of practice, the non-competitive drills, dealing with both a bone bruise and a blister, but expects to be ready for practice tomorrow, as well as play in the Lakers first preseason game on Sunday.

Metta World Peace sat out of practice with a calf strain, which Byron Scott says has definitely limited him during training camp. Nick Young experienced back spasms at the end of practice, but Scott expects him to be fine for Saturday’s practice.

Kobe Bryant did not participate in the formal parts of practice and limited himself to shooting, for preventive reasons. Asked whether Bryant will play in the Lakers game against the Utah Jazz, Scott responded, “We’ll see.”

The Russell and Clarkson duo has received quite a bit of attention as of late, even Russell jokingly described their relationship as “Thing One” and “Thing Two,” a reference to Dr. Seuss’ The Cat in the Hat. On a serious note, both agree that the differences in their game allow them to complement each other on the court.

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“His mentality is more score, score and he has the gift to pass as well,” Russell said of Clarkson. “Mine is just more to pass, and I have the gift to score… We complement each other.”

Julius Randle has been looking stronger and more confident each day of practice and Scott says it’s Randle’s explosiveness that has really made a noticeable difference. Plus, on the offensive side of the ball, Scott says he has trust and comfort in Randle’s playmaking ability and ball-handling, and has given him the go-ahead to push the ball in transition, whenever possible.

Scott agreed with James Worthy that Randle has the ability to be an All-Star.

“His first step is about as quick as any power forward in this league right now,” Scott said of Randle. “It’s just about developing the rest of the game.”

The Lakers have another two-a-day practice scheduled for Saturday before their first preseason game kicks off on Sunday against the Utah Jazz.

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Anybody watching Emmanuel Mudiay right now ?

      1. ya.. his jump shot has always been very ugly… i think he’s a poor man’s john wall. but never know how his game develops. i like that kid. good attitude

        1. He’ll have a nice career similar to a John wall.
          As for Russell I think he’ll be like CP3

        2. ya perfect comparisons. people are saying russell is the next steve nash but i prefer the cp3 comparison because russell is a very versatile scorer. nash became an efficient scorer very late in his career. i can’t see russell ever avging more than 18ppg. he’ll always be a 18ppg/11ast kind of guy.

        3. i’m telling u bro this is not just a stupid fanboy comment but this kid is going to save our beloved franchise. i have no doubt about that. i’ve heard all the right things. i’ve seen what i need to see. i applaud mitch for the tough decision (to pick him over okafor). eventually, russell will be a 50/40/90 guy with 18ppg/11ast/6reb. a future mvp candidate.

        4. no question. and the more mitch thought about it, i am sure the decision to take russell over okafor was really pretty easy.

        5. You and I been Russell supporters since day one vdogg
          I think we can both agree this kid is going to be special soon enough

        6. I don’t think it was easy. I think it was a very tough decision, which is a testament to how good Russell will be.

        7. Nah. Mitch said it himself. Okafor wasn’t at the level of the centers whose jerseys are on the wall at the lakers facility. Simple decision.

        8. If Rondo can convince Hibbert to sign an extension with Sacramento, we got a deal. Besides Hibbert, we’ll have to sacrifice either Randle or Clarkson. We definitely won’t sacrifice Russell.

        9. Thats what Im saying, it would be a sacrifice of probably Randle. And as rumored, there were plenty of trades that did not pan out because Randle was the requested trade piece.
          Yes, Randle is that good!

          Personally I like the balance we have right now to where I don’t know if I would like to let go of Hibbert.

          Hibbert to me is a foundation piece. You dont let him go.

          I think we have a very nice squad that we should polish up and roll with. Maybe try for Durant in 2016.

        10. i’m with you. but FO would be too tempted to pull the trigger on a cousins trade (if it comes through). russell is the only asset that they won’t trade. just a hunch

        11. I would love Cousins here, but at what cost?

          If the FO can pull a Pau Gasol type of trade, that would be great.

        12. Dream on, I guarantee they’ll trade Russell before Randle at this point for Cousin due to the many combo guards we already have on this team.

          Randle is ready to take the league by storm IMO.

        13. I agree with you on Randle, hes destined to blow up, but Russell is a cornerstone. Theyre not letting Russell go a any cost.

        14. I can see Russell averaging 20+ points in his prime because he can score anywhere on the floor but that’s just my thinking

        15. that hasn’t exactly been proven yet. to me, his money shot will be the pull up trigger. with his height, he can score over relatively smaller pgs. his pull up trigger will get him 70% of all his points simply because he hasn’t yet shown the explosiveness to get past defenders and finish at the hoop. like a guy like harden who is able to manipulate his way to the rim all the time. i don’t think russell will be that guy.

        16. But, keep in mind…..
          While John Wall and Cp3 are All Star caliber players, neither is transcendent.

          To me, Randle has the potential to be a modern era version of Sir Charles, AND a transcendent player.

        17. That is pretty big expectations because CP3 is one of the games’s best at his position. All he has been missing is playing with a real super star. (Blake Griffin is close)

          I hope Russell can be even as good as CP3. But I rarely separate good and great players from one another. I usually just say either you can ball at a high level or you can’t because on any given day one good player may out perform another good player. That goes the same for great players on any given day player’s with high skill level may out perform one another.

          I also like to wait to players actually become stars or super stars before I compare them to one. I am not a big hype believer. I never bought Lin was a great player when the media tried to sell that hype and pipe dream.

          Not to compare Lin to Russell because Russell is far better.

          I just hope Clarkson, Russell, and Randle can stay healthy.
          I recall one of my brothers claiming to me in Derek Rose’s rookie season he would be as good or better than Kobe.

          The first words I said to him was that is way too premature a statement to make. I said we don’t even know if he will remain healthy enough to be anywhere as good as Kobe.

          And health has sure prevented Derek Rose from reaching his peak potential.

          Paytc

        18. Hi buddy.

          I agree with your thinking, but I’m very encouraged what I see from Russell, enough where I can say hes the real deal.

          Also, Jerry West’s track record and his high endorsement of Russell holds allot of weight in my belief in Russells abilities.

          Jerry West has said that Russell has the highest potential he has seen in a rookie. That says allot.

      2. The game is sloppy. But expect it its going to lake a while , like us they have a group of new guys but most are vet. But it feels good to see the season start.

  1. I think I’ll take Worthy and Byrons word over some of you nay sayers that Randle will be an All Star.

        1. ya.. his jump shot has always been very ugly… i think he’s a poor man’s john wall. but never know how his game develops. i like that kid. good attitude

          1. He’ll have a nice career similar to a John wall.
            As for Russell I think he’ll be like CP3

          2. ya perfect comparisons. people are saying russell is the next steve nash but i prefer the cp3 comparison because russell is a very versatile scorer. nash became an efficient scorer very late in his career. i can’t see russell ever avging more than 18ppg. he’ll always be a 18ppg/11ast kind of guy.

          3. i’m telling u bro this is not just a stupid fanboy comment but this kid is going to save our beloved franchise. i have no doubt about that. i’ve heard all the right things. i’ve seen what i need to see. i applaud mitch for the tough decision (to pick him over okafor). eventually, russell will be a 50/40/90 guy with 18ppg/11ast/6reb. a future mvp candidate.

          4. no question. and the more mitch thought about it, i am sure the decision to take russell over okafor was really pretty easy.

          5. You and I been Russell supporters since day one vdogg
            I think we can both agree this kid is going to be special soon enough

          6. I don’t think it was easy. I think it was a very tough decision, which is a testament to how good Russell will be.

          7. Nah. Mitch said it himself. Okafor wasn’t at the level of the centers whose jerseys are on the wall at the lakers facility. Simple decision.

          8. If Rondo can convince Hibbert to sign an extension with Sacramento, we got a deal. Besides Hibbert, we’ll have to sacrifice either Randle or Clarkson. We definitely won’t sacrifice Russell.

          9. Thats what Im saying, it would be a sacrifice of probably Randle. And as rumored, there were plenty of trades that did not pan out because Randle was the requested trade piece.
            Yes, Randle is that good!

            Personally I like the balance we have right now to where I don’t know if I would like to let go of Hibbert.

            Hibbert to me is a foundation piece. You dont let him go.

            I think we have a very nice squad that we should polish up and roll with. Maybe try for Durant in 2016.

          10. i’m with you. but FO would be too tempted to pull the trigger on a cousins trade (if it comes through). russell is the only asset that they won’t trade. just a hunch

          11. I would love Cousins here, but at what cost?

            If the FO can pull a Pau Gasol type of trade, that would be great.

          12. Dream on, I guarantee they’ll trade Russell before Randle at this point for Cousin due to the many combo guards we already have on this team.

            Randle is ready to take the league by storm IMO.

          13. I agree with you on Randle, hes destined to blow up, but Russell is a cornerstone. Theyre not letting Russell go a any cost.

          14. I can see Russell averaging 20+ points in his prime because he can score anywhere on the floor but that’s just my thinking

          15. that hasn’t exactly been proven yet. to me, his money shot will be the pull up trigger. with his height, he can score over relatively smaller pgs. his pull up trigger will get him 70% of all his points simply because he hasn’t yet shown the explosiveness to get past defenders and finish at the hoop. like a guy like harden who is able to manipulate his way to the rim all the time. i don’t think russell will be that guy.

          16. But, keep in mind…..
            While John Wall and Cp3 are All Star caliber players, neither is transcendent.

            To me, Randle has the potential to be a modern era version of Sir Charles, AND a transcendent player.

          17. That is pretty big expectations because CP3 is one of the games’s best at his position. All he has been missing is playing with a real super star. (Blake Griffin is close)

            I hope Russell can be even as good as CP3. But I rarely separate good and great players from one another. I usually just say either you can ball at a high level or you can’t because on any given day one good player may out perform another good player. That goes the same for great players on any given day player’s with high skill level may out perform one another. They may have the best day, that doesn’t make them necessarily a better player.

            I also like to wait to players actually become stars or super stars before I compare them to one. I am not a big hype believer. I never bought Lin was a great player when the media tried to sell that hype and pipe dream.

            Not to compare Lin to Russell because Russell is potentially far better.

            I just hope Clarkson, Russell, and Randle can stay healthy.
            I recall one of my brothers claiming to me in Derek Rose’s rookie season he would be as good or better than Kobe.

            The first words I said to him was that is way too premature a statement to make. I said we don’t even know if he will remain healthy enough to be anywhere near as good as Kobe.

            And health has sure prevented Derek Rose from reaching his peak potential.

            Paytc

          18. Hi buddy.

            I agree with your thinking, but I’m very encouraged what I see from Russell, enough where I can say hes the real deal.

            Also, Jerry West’s track record and his high endorsement of Russell holds allot of weight in my belief in Russells abilities.

            Jerry West has said that Russell has the highest potential he has seen in a rookie. That says allot.

            Of course, health is always the destiny changer as you pointed out.

        2. The game is sloppy. But expect it its going to lake a while , like us they have a group of new guys but most are vet. But it feels good to see the season start.

    1. I think I’ll take Worthy and Byrons word over some of you nay sayers that Randle will be an All Star.

    1. Lol, that’s nothing, triple antibiotic ointment to heal the exposed skin sooner than later and tape it up on Sunday and he’ll be good. Nothing major lol.

    1. Lol, that’s nothing, triple antibiotic ointment to heal the exposed skin sooner than later and tape it up on Sunday and he’ll be good. Nothing major lol.

  • you know clarkson got past NBA-level defenders in his rookie season. he’s gonna do more of that today. the kid has great explosiveness. but i still have doubts about his jump shot. its a really ugly jump shot. also, if he’s able to get past defenders so well, he can rack up a lot of assists if he develops the needed court vision. what i like is the kid has a really good attitude. he knows that he’s a work in progress.

    1. His jump shot isn’t that bad. His mid range is almost money and he just needs to work on that 3pt shot

      1. hey maybe u don’t see what i do and vice-versa. if u notice his shot release, there is something very odd about. he doesn’t create much space and leverage. i worry that taller defenders can stop his shots. but his strength is not jump shot but rather slash and explode. so no problem there. russell seems to be the complete opposite.

        1. He said that is what he spent the most time on and strength to help his 3s shot we will see, he will do much better this year, he is on his way up.

    2. Westbrook jumpshot looked bad also but he turned out deadly. Clarkson is in his way to being another Westbrook

  • you know clarkson got past NBA-level defenders in his rookie season. he’s gonna do more of that today. the kid has great explosiveness. but i still have doubts about his jump shot. its a really ugly jump shot. also, if he’s able to get past defenders so well, he can rack up a lot of assists if he develops the needed court vision. what i like is the kid has a really good attitude. he knows that he’s a work in progress.

    1. His jump shot isn’t that bad. His mid range is almost money and he just needs to work on that 3pt shot

      1. hey maybe u don’t see what i do and vice-versa. if u notice his shot release, there is something very odd about. he doesn’t create much space and leverage. i worry that taller defenders can stop his shots. but his strength is not jump shot but rather slash and explode. so no problem there. russell seems to be the complete opposite.

        1. He said that is what he spent the most time on and strength to help his 3s shot we will see, he will do much better this year, he is on his way up.

    2. Westbrook jumpshot looked bad also but he turned out deadly. Clarkson is in his way to being another Westbrook

  • I don’t want to sound like a doubter but who else feels there’s a WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE between the Randle we saw last year and this one? He seems to be settling too much for mid-range looks and just trying to space the floor for good looks. that’s not a bad strategy if he wants to emulate a guy like Z-BO. But Randle can run, rebound and slash like a guard. Problem is Randle will never get to handle the ball with Russell, Clarkson and Kobe already around. So he can’t become the Point Forward everyone hopes him to be. This is why I think Randle needs to work more on screen and rolls and learn to slash to the basket better. If he can find that balance in his game, he’ll get better scoring opportunities. He’s a 80% FT shooter so he can slash to the basket a lot more with his freaskish body.

          1. compared to blake. Don’t think so. And yes I have seen his youtube mix tapes.

          2. It seems Blake jumps a little higher but Randle has a quicker first step and better speed

          3. If Randle is ever as good as Griffin I would be thrilled. I think Griffin is underrated. 22+ points, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists. In the playoffs this year 25/13/6. I think these two will battle in LA for a long time.

          4. I’m glad the lakers have Randle to bang with griffin because these past 4 years griffin would destroy anybody the lakers had at power forward

          5. vs the clippers the lakers need to slow the game down and allow the size and and strength that we have to bother them

          6. I think even if we slow it down the matchups aren’t that good. But I will enjoy seeing our young guys fighting and learning against a great clipper team.

          7. in the match ups is would give the clippers pg with out question.

            i would give the lakers sf and bench with out question.

            it will come down to jc vs redic, grif vs rand and dj vs hib

          8. PG CLIPPS
            SG SLIGHT ADVANTAGE CLIPPS (the clipps need 3’s and that’s what Reddick does averaging 15 points a game)
            SF LAKERS
            PF CLIPPERS
            C CLIPPERS
            BENCH: TIE (Josh Smith, Stephenson, Crawford, Rivers>Huertas)

          9. pg: cp3 vs russ—– clippers
            sg: redic vs clarkson——– tie
            sf: paul vs kobe——lakers
            pf griffen vs randle—– clippers
            c: dj vs hibbert——- clippers

            bench: lakers and its not close

          10. Huertas, Williams, Young, Bass, Black vs. Rivers, Crawford, Stephenson, Josh Smith, and Cole Aldrich. That’s close in my opinion. Huertas would have trouble with Rivers. Williams and Crawford will both score. I see Lance giving Young trouble. I think Josh Smith will beat Bass. I give an edge to Black on Cole.

          11. your forgeting paul pirce hes their back up 4 with smith as the back up 5.

            i see the bench as lou, brown, young, bass and black

            lou> rivers

            brown=crawford

            young paul

            black=smith

          12. It’s suspected that Coach Rivers will start vet Pierce over a childish Stephenson. Depth chart stands as I listed for the clippers. I don’t see lou playing pg (especially with brown and young). I think it will be Huertas, Lou, Young, Bass, and Black. As I said Rivers> Huertas, Lou slight edge over Crawford, Young the slightest over Stephenson, Josh Smith> Bass, Black edge Cole.

          13. WOW. I think pierce will earn it but if he wants to play him at stretch 4. Your lineup.
            Lou> Rivers
            BrownBlack
            As I said I think its pretty much even off the bench. NOT “not even close” like you said.

          14. the issue is the fact that the lakers bench will get pt the clippers bench wont really see much time. which means the lakers bench will be better because of it

          15. So you agree the talent off the bench is even but the starting lineup for the clippers is so good that they won’t see the court? Confused. You said “not even close”. Now you are talking about playing time?

          16. playing time effects how units play. the lakers bench will see alot more time on the court which will allow them to end up being better.

            just going on player vs player it looks closer then it will be

          17. Crawford always gets tons of minutes. Rivers got his minutes and had a few huge games. I think Lance will get a lot time relieving an aging pierce and bad Wes. Josh Smith has never had trouble getting time (he is there third best big man). I don’t see where you are coming up with your argument. They may even get more time due to blow out wins.

          18. Just to restate I said the benches were even. But now that we break it down and saw the matchups you gave. With the argument that playing time supposedly overcomes talent. It’s way closer than I thought.

          19. its not close cp3 dj and griffen will all average more mpg then the highest laker. redic will average around 30-33 mpg.

            russ will get about 27mpg
            kobe about 30
            clark about 30
            randle about 27
            hibbet about 27.

            our bench will all be getting close to 20mpg.

            the clippers bench players will get more like 15mpg

          20. Why are you guys talking about the lippers on a Lakers website. Thats the trolls job.

          21. And Williams and Jabari or Frazier are better at the 3 point shot, we have a much better group that can play the two, especially considering Kobe, Swaggy, and Anthony Brown can play the position.

          22. Gotta be realistic. Wes will not get major minutes with Stevenson, Smith and Pierce out there. Keep in mind Redick and Rivers will man the two.

          23. you said wes wont see much pt if hes starting he will get a good amount of pt so no it does matter whos starting

          24. follow ur own post’s. wes will be geting pt for that team unless he in no longer starting

          25. Not the bulk and again, the depth behind him makes for a much better SF situation for them than ours.

          26. That looks reasonable. But I am not sure I would give dj the edge over Hibbert. I think they are both mainly defenders. Both can score about the same and Hibbert is the better foul shooter. I think Hibbert has made it as an all star before? I am not sure if DJ has made it as an all star but perhaps he has because he is a dominant shot blocker, rebounder and defender.

            I would call that comparison a tie/wash?

            What do you think ?

            Paytc

          27. i give it to dj because hes a great rebounder but out side of that i agree.

            lakers have two guys off our bench who can get 40 on any given night

          28. I’ll give it to Hibbert because he is a Laker. And now for the first time in Hibbert’s life he is playing with the best of this era, and one of the goats. I think that will help Hibbert return to a all star level of play.

            Those missed foul shots or DJ having to be benched because of them will be big.

            I agree we have talent that could come close to matching any team in the league. But talent doesn’t mean much unless they can play well together. That unfortunately takes a bit of time. Trust, timing , and chemistry doesn’t just magically happen.

            Edge to start the season goes to the Clippers. That doesn’t mean we can’t pull for the Lakers. Nor does it mean the Lakers won’t pull the upset.

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          29. Dj vs Hibbert, hell nah.

            Not on the defensive. Hibbert will smack the crap out of DJ.

          30. Center to the Clippers… really, we can leave Hibbert in at the end of the game, Clippers have to pull D’Andre because he can’t hit a foul shot. Your only better if your on the floor.
            We have a better shooting guard team than the Clippers, Clarkson’s going to be a monster to deal with this year, and Williams also averages 15+ points a game, and then there’s Jabari Brown.

          31. How do you figure we got the SF battle won when they have Pierce, Smith and Stevenson? Yeah we got Kobe but their depth is off the charts.

          32. ?
            Kobe and Young should be able to keep up with any team offensively. Add Metta, ABrown, and Holmes…..

            Stephenson is a SG. we saw last year that he’s a better guard than foreward.
            A
            And while I think the combo of Pierce and Smith will be effective, I also think that an Old Man and a highly inefficient combo forward playing in his least effective position won’t be as great as most think.

          33. Between Kobe, Clarkson, Lou, Russ, and Young….idk if hibbert will get a ton of post up opportunities

          1. That was at the combine 6 years ago. I assume he has improved it but I could be wrong.

          2. Well if don’t wanna get into “will”. But IF he stays healthy im sure he will improve in a number of ways.

        1. Check the numbers. Both Griffin and Randle had a 35.5″ vertical at their combines. Julius is not quite as dynamic as a young Griffin IMO.

        2. Blake has hops that very few athletes can achieve. Hes a human pogo stick.

          But that deteriorates quickly, look at Lebron, D Wade, Xavier Henry, etc. That high flying style of play is difficult to maintain forever.

          Randles advantage is his speed and cutting to the basket.

          I know that I’m starting to soud like a Randle fanboy, but thats only because hes making a big fan out of me.

      1. The “young Blake Griffen” is a fair comparison as of today.

        Randle has a much greater skillset and has a much higher ceiling. Griffen’s game in his early years was about athletic superiority in the paint and athletic dunks. Whereas, Randle is a physical player, but he’s a much better shooter and passer. BUT, I think that in Randle’s first year or two, Griffen’s comparable stats are a good metric.

    1. That’s what your mid range can do for you; your opponent can either respect your jumper playing up close or they will have to back off and respect Randles lightning quick first step but they cannot have it both ways. Randle is smart enough to understand this early; I recall Blake Griffin first few years he was all lobs and drive and dunks but his jumpers he developed the last couple of years have really made him an elite inside/ outside player.

      The positive for Randle is that he isn’t an athletic above the rim type of player so his urgency is to develope more reliable offensive repertoire; better earlier than Griffin at this stage.

    2. You do realize he has to play within BScott’s system, he does not have the liberty to create on his own, only Kobe can do that, so for now he has to play and shoot where Scott wants him to be.

    3. If he rebounds he will. Scott wants him to rebound the ball and then push it up quickly himself, not outlet to a guard unless they are already down the court ahead of the defense. This way were always taking shots before the defense is set.

      1. The Point-Forward creates MANY different options for the offense, and nightmares for the defense. It allows Randle to initiate the offense, create looks, and THEN drop the ball to the guards to “reset” and run structured plays.

        Also, given Randle’s athleticism, he should be able to beat most PF’s and C’s in the league in basic 1-on-1 ISO, and transitional pick and rolls.

    4. He has already been given the green light to be a play maker by B Scott if the opportunity presents itself. So we will get to see some of those skills.

  • I don’t want to sound like a doubter but who else feels there’s a WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE between the Randle we saw last year and this one? He seems to be settling too much for mid-range looks and just trying to space the floor for good looks. that’s not a bad strategy if he wants to emulate a guy like Z-BO. But Randle can run, rebound and slash like a guard. Problem is Randle will never get to handle the ball with Russell, Clarkson and Kobe already around. So he can’t become the Point Forward everyone hopes him to be. This is why I think Randle needs to work more on screen and rolls and learn to slash to the basket better. If he can find that balance in his game, he’ll get better scoring opportunities. He’s a 80% FT shooter so he can slash to the basket a lot more with his freaskish body.

          1. compared to blake. Don’t think so. And yes I have seen his youtube mix tapes.

          2. It seems Blake jumps a little higher but Randle has a quicker first step and better speed

          3. If Randle is ever as good as Griffin I would be thrilled. I think Griffin is underrated. 22+ points, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists. In the playoffs this year 25/13/6. I think these two will battle in LA for a long time.

          4. I’m glad the lakers have Randle to bang with griffin because these past 4 years griffin would destroy anybody the lakers had at power forward

          5. vs the clippers the lakers need to slow the game down and allow the size and and strength that we have to bother them

          6. I think even if we slow it down the matchups aren’t that good. But I will enjoy seeing our young guys fighting and learning against a great clipper team.

          7. in the match ups is would give the clippers pg with out question.

            i would give the lakers sf and bench with out question.

            it will come down to jc vs redic, grif vs rand and dj vs hib

          8. PG CLIPPS
            SG SLIGHT ADVANTAGE CLIPPS (the clipps need 3’s and that’s what Reddick does averaging 15 points a game)
            SF LAKERS
            PF CLIPPERS
            C CLIPPERS
            BENCH: TIE (Josh Smith, Stephenson, Crawford, Rivers>Huertas)

          9. pg: cp3 vs russ—– clippers
            sg: redic vs clarkson——– tie
            sf: wes vs kobe——lakers
            pf griffen vs randle—– clippers
            c: dj vs hibbert——- clippers

            bench: lakers and its not close

          10. Huertas, Williams, Young, Bass, Black vs. Rivers, Crawford, Stephenson, Josh Smith, and Cole Aldrich. That’s close in my opinion. Huertas would have trouble with Rivers. Williams and Crawford will both score. I see Lance giving Young trouble. I think Josh Smith will beat Bass. I give an edge to Black on Cole.

          11. your forgeting paul pirce hes their back up 4 with smith as the back up 5.

            i see the bench as lou, brown, young, bass and black

            lou> rivers

            brown=crawford

            young paul

            black=smith

          12. It’s suspected that Coach Rivers will start vet Pierce over a childish Stephenson. Depth chart stands as I listed for the clippers. I don’t see lou playing pg (especially with brown and young). I think it will be Huertas, Lou, Young, Bass, and Black. As I said Rivers> Huertas, Lou slight edge over Crawford, Young = Stephenson, Josh Smith> Bass, Black edge Cole.

          13. WOW. I think pierce will earn it but if he wants to play him at stretch 4. Your lineup.
            Lou> Rivers
            BrownBlack
            As I said I think its pretty much even off the bench. NOT “not even close” like you said.

          14. the issue is the fact that the lakers bench will get pt the clippers bench wont really see much time. which means the lakers bench will be better because of it

          15. So you agree the talent off the bench is even but the starting lineup for the clippers is so good that they won’t see the court? Confused. You said “not even close”. Now you are talking about playing time?

          16. playing time effects how units play. the lakers bench will see alot more time on the court which will allow them to end up being better.

            just going on player vs player it looks closer then it will be

          17. Crawford always gets tons of minutes. Rivers got his minutes and had a few huge games. I think Lance will get a lot time relieving an aging pierce and bad Wes. Josh Smith has never had trouble getting time (he is there third best big man). I don’t see where you are coming up with your argument. They may even get more time due to blow out wins.

          18. Just to restate I said the benches were even. But now that we break it down and saw the matchups you gave. With the argument that playing time supposedly overcomes talent. It’s way closer than I thought.

          19. its not close cp3 dj and griffen will all average more mpg then the highest laker. redic will average around 30-33 mpg.

            russ will get about 27mpg
            kobe about 30
            clark about 30
            randle about 27
            hibbet about 27.

            our bench will all be getting close to 20mpg.

            the clippers bench players will get more like 15mpg

          20. Why are you guys talking about the lippers on a Lakers website. Thats the trolls job.

          21. And Williams and Jabari or Frazier are better at the 3 point shot, we have a much better group that can play the two, especially considering Kobe, Swaggy, and Anthony Brown can play the position.

          22. Gotta be realistic. Wes will not get major minutes with Stevenson, Smith and Pierce out there. Keep in mind Redick and Rivers will man the two.

          23. you said wes wont see much pt if hes starting he will get a good amount of pt so no it does matter whos starting

          24. follow ur own post’s. wes will be geting pt for that team unless he in no longer starting

          25. Not the bulk and again, the depth behind him makes for a much better SF situation for them than ours.

          26. That looks reasonable. But I am not sure I would give dj the edge over Hibbert. I think they are both mainly defenders. Both can score about the same and Hibbert is the better foul shooter. I think Hibbert has made it as an all star before? I am not sure if DJ has made it as an all star but perhaps he has because he is a dominant shot blocker, rebounder and defender.

            I would call that comparison a tie/wash?

            And the bench might go to the Clippers atleast until the Lakers get a bit of trust and chemistry going. The Clippers have chemistry because many of their players have played in their system with their team mates longer.

            Doc may have a slight edge over Byron Scott at this point too?

            It will take time to gel. Overall edge goes to the Clippers at this stage.

            What do you think ?

            Paytc

          27. i give it to dj because hes a great rebounder but out side of that i agree.

            lakers have two guys off our bench who can get 40 on any given night

          28. I’ll give it to Hibbert because he is a Laker. And now for the first time in Hibbert’s life he is playing with the best of this era, and one of the goats. I think that will help Hibbert return to a all star level of play.

            Those missed foul shots or DJ having to be benched because of them will be big.

            I agree we have talent that could come close to matching any team in the league. But talent doesn’t mean much unless they can play well together. That unfortunately takes a bit of time. Trust, timing , and chemistry doesn’t just magically happen.

            Edge to start the season goes to the Clippers. That doesn’t mean we can’t pull for the Lakers. Nor does it mean the Lakers won’t pull the upset.

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          29. Dj vs Hibbert, hell nah.

            Not on the defensive. Hibbert will smack the crap out of DJ.

          30. Center to the Clippers… really, we can leave Hibbert in at the end of the game, Clippers have to pull D’Andre because he can’t hit a foul shot. Your only better if your on the floor.
            We have a better shooting guard team than the Clippers, Clarkson’s going to be a monster to deal with this year, and Williams also averages 15+ points a game, and then there’s Jabari Brown.

          31. How do you figure we got the SF battle won when they have Pierce, Smith and Stevenson? Yeah we got Kobe but their depth is off the charts.

          32. ?
            Kobe and Young should be able to keep up with any team offensively. Add Metta, ABrown, and Holmes…..

            Stephenson is a SG. we saw last year that he’s a better guard than foreward.
            A
            And while I think the combo of Pierce and Smith will be effective, I also think that an Old Man and a highly inefficient combo forward playing in his least effective position won’t be as great as most think.

          33. Between Kobe, Clarkson, Lou, Russ, and Young….idk if hibbert will get a ton of post up opportunities

          1. That was at the combine 6 years ago. I assume he has improved it but I could be wrong.

          2. Well if don’t wanna get into “will”. But IF he stays healthy im sure he will improve in a number of ways.

        1. Check the numbers. Both Griffin and Randle had a 35.5″ vertical at their combines. Julius is not quite as dynamic as a young Griffin IMO.

        2. Blake has hops that very few athletes can achieve. Hes a human pogo stick.

          But that deteriorates quickly, look at Lebron, D Wade, Xavier Henry, etc. That high flying style of play is difficult to maintain forever.

          Randles advantage is his speed and cutting to the basket.

          I know that I’m starting to soud like a Randle fanboy, but thats only because hes making a big fan out of me.

      1. The “young Blake Griffen” is a fair comparison as of today.

        Randle has a much greater skillset and has a much higher ceiling. Griffen’s game in his early years was about athletic superiority in the paint and athletic dunks. Whereas, Randle is a physical player, but he’s a much better shooter and passer. BUT, I think that in Randle’s first year or two, Griffen’s comparable stats are a good metric.

    1. That’s what your mid range can do for you; your opponent can either respect your jumper playing up close or they will have to back off and respect Randles lightning quick first step but they cannot have it both ways. Randle is smart enough to understand this early; I recall Blake Griffin first few years he was all lobs and drive and dunks but his jumpers he developed the last couple of years have really made him an elite inside/ outside player.

      The positive for Randle is that he isn’t an athletic above the rim type of player so his urgency is to develope more reliable offensive repertoire; better earlier than Griffin at this stage.

    2. You do realize he has to play within BScott’s system, he does not have the liberty to create on his own, only Kobe can do that, so for now he has to play and shoot where Scott wants him to be.

    3. If he rebounds he will. Scott wants him to rebound the ball and then push it up quickly himself, not outlet to a guard unless they are already down the court ahead of the defense. This way were always taking shots before the defense is set.

      1. The Point-Forward creates MANY different options for the offense, and nightmares for the defense. It allows Randle to initiate the offense, create looks, and THEN drop the ball to the guards to “reset” and run structured plays.

        Also, given Randle’s athleticism, he should be able to beat most PF’s and C’s in the league in basic 1-on-1 ISO, and transitional pick and rolls.

    4. He has already been given the green light to be a play maker by B Scott if the opportunity presents itself. So we will get to see some of those skills.

    1. He’s solid what do you mean? His shot is unorthodox but he still makes it and he has some playmaking skills

        1. Ehh… Lakers weren’t going to bid for Cole and Miller was available but the lakers picked up Huertas instead

        2. you haven’t seen him play one NBA game and you are already criticizing him, hmmm why do you have loyalty in your name ????

        3. Huertas isn’t bad….in fact he’s a lot better than most realize.

          I suspect that he’ll get a lot less time than most expect as think that Clarkson will get 7-10 minutes at PG.

          PG minutes
          Russell: 30 minutes – 15 w. starters / 15 Rotation
          Clarkson: 7-10 minutes
          Huertas: 7-10 minutes

          It makes a lot of sense to let Clarkson keep developing his offensive play making skills and helps free up SG minutes for Williams. And Clarkson is the “attacking” PG that compliments Russell and Huertas.

          Fundamentally, I believe we need to think of Huertas as the #3 PG. He will get minutes in every game, but there are 2 guys ahead of him, both of which are younger, much faster, and are in the team’s long term plans.

          1. as long as he’s the 3rd option. i agree with you. he’s definitely not good enough as the 2nd option.

          2. I think you are underestimating Huertas’ ability. But with Russell, it’s a unique dynamic and more of a 2a and 2b situation for backup options.

          3. actually i fear that clarkson/williams will be the A-squad option because of BS’s reluctance to blood rookies/unknowns right away. he probably trusts the backcourt of clarkson/williams a lot more right now. hopefully we’ll get a lot of answers on sunday night.

          4. You’re not impressed by film on Huertas?

            Did you see glimpses of his passing in trainig camp.

            Huertas is a euro league nash, but without the injuries.

    1. He’s solid what do you mean? His shot is unorthodox but he still makes it and he has some playmaking skills

        1. Ehh… Lakers weren’t going to bid for Cole and Miller was available but the lakers picked up Huertas instead

        2. you haven’t seen him play one NBA game and you are already criticizing him, hmmm why do you have loyalty in your name ????

        3. Huertas isn’t bad….in fact he’s a lot better than most realize.

          I suspect that he’ll get a lot less time than most expect as think that Clarkson will get 7-10 minutes at PG.

          PG minutes
          Russell: 30 minutes – 15 w. starters / 15 Rotation
          Clarkson: 7-10 minutes
          Huertas: 7-10 minutes

          It makes a lot of sense to let Clarkson keep developing his offensive play making skills and helps free up SG minutes for Williams. And Clarkson is the “attacking” PG that compliments Russell and Huertas.

          Fundamentally, I believe we need to think of Huertas as the #3 PG. He will get minutes in every game, but there are 2 guys ahead of him, both of which are younger, much faster, and are in the team’s long term plans.

          1. as long as he’s the 3rd option. i agree with you. he’s definitely not good enough as the 2nd option.

          2. I think you are underestimating Huertas’ ability. But with Russell, it’s a unique dynamic and more of a 2a and 2b situation for backup options.

            And realize that Clarkson/Williams should be a pretty good guard combo. Especially when taken in context that they are the B-squad option and used as match up and rotation options.

          3. actually i fear that clarkson/williams will be the A-squad option because of BS’s reluctance to blood rookies/unknowns right away. he probably trusts the backcourt of clarkson/williams a lot more right now. hopefully we’ll get a lot of answers on sunday night.

          4. You’re not impressed by film on Huertas?

            Did you see glimpses of his passing in trainig camp.

            Huertas is a euro league nash, but without the injuries.

  • Way to go BS, you have managed to start the ball rolling on injuries before game 1
    (Russell, Metta, Young), you must be proud of yourself !!!!!!!

    1. Lol you swear like a bone bruise, back spasm, and a calf strain is Byron’s fault. I hate Lakers “fans” like this

  • Way to go BS, you have managed to start the ball rolling on injuries before game 1
    (Russell, Metta, Young), you must be proud of yourself !!!!!!!

    1. Lol you swear like a bone bruise, back spasm, and a calf strain is Byron’s fault. I hate Lakers “fans” like this

  • The Russell / Clarkson combo and how the compliment each other is a very major piece of their future. Enough so, that I think they are perfect compliments, and without each other, they might not reach their individual bests.

    Also, while it’s a single line of text, we’re starting to see the point-forward skills of Randle.

    1. Good point. Maybe another reason the FO passed up Okafor. Okafor and Randle may have not been a good fit since they’re not the greatest of defenders.

      1. okafor and randle would have been flat-out terrible together… one of the many reasons the lakers made the right call in drafting russell.

  • The Russell / Clarkson combo and how the compliment each other is a very major piece of their future. Enough so, that I think they are perfect compliments, and without each other, they might not reach their individual bests.

    Also, while it’s a single line of text, we’re starting to see the point-forward skills of Randle.

    1. Good point. Maybe another reason the FO passed up Okafor. Okafor and Randle may have not been a good fit since they’re not the greatest of defenders.

      1. okafor and randle would have been flat-out terrible together… one of the many reasons the lakers made the right call in drafting russell.

  • i saw this video it look like the lakers mess again, hopefully we can trade sacre and randle for cousins…we dont have a stone player like cousin that can dunk and shot on the midair.

  • i saw this video it look like the lakers mess again, hopefully we can trade sacre and randle for cousins…we dont have a stone player like cousin that can dunk and shot on the midair.

  • Nice of Nash to be there for his team now that Kerr will take time off given his back issues. Although, Kerr may as well coach home games and let Luke and Nash (team dedication) coach away games. The real problem for Kerr be the long flights involving long periods of sitting.

  • Nice of Nash to be there for his team now that Kerr will take time off given his back issues. Although, Kerr may as well coach home games and let Luke and Nash (team dedication) coach away games. The real problem for Kerr be the long flights involving long periods of sitting.

  • this may be going out on a limb, but wtf… don’t be shocked if our young big three turns into a young big FOUR — russell, clarkson, randle and UPSHAW.

  • this may be going out on a limb, but wtf… don’t be shocked if our young big three turns into a young big FOUR — russell, clarkson, randle and UPSHAW.

  • We have injuries every year. Can’t the basketball gods be nice for once? I know they’re minor injuries but damn. Hopefully they can play Sunday. Excited to see how our young guys do.

  • We have injuries every year. Can’t the basketball gods be nice for once? I know they’re minor injuries but damn. Hopefully they can play Sunday. Excited to see how our young guys do.

  • So glad we didn’t draft Mudiay. He’s going to be a decent player but I think we got the best pg in the draft.

  • So glad we didn’t draft Mudiay. He’s going to be a decent player but I think we got the best pg in the draft.

  • ” Russell practiced for about 15 minutes before the bone bruise in his right foot started bothering him. He sat out the rest of practice.”

    I’m not a doctor but did not practice Friday means he is not going to be ready for Sunday. Saturday is the only day he has left to get in to go full speed for Sunday’s game; dies this sound like a risky idea to put his foot to the test this early?

    I think it should not be, he should rest it but we will see what the medical staff determines.

    1. good points. i would keep him out of the first game, too. there are still seven preseason games after that.

      1. Really? Well too bad for you because you can only do that I. Your sick demented delusional fanboy mind wanna be GM 😀

        1. was that supposed to be the ENGLISH language? lol.. learn how to read and write, kiddo.

          THEN come at me.

        2. There’s already a blogger here with that name, you should use no-lifer instead it suits you better

  • ” Russell practiced for about 15 minutes before the bone bruise in his right foot started bothering him. He sat out the rest of practice.”

    I’m not a doctor but did not practice Friday means he is not going to be ready for Sunday. Saturday is the only day he has left to get in to go full speed for Sunday’s game; dies this sound like a risky idea to put his foot to the test this early?

    I think it should not be, he should rest it but we will see what the medical staff determines.

    1. good points. i would keep him out of the first game, too. there are still seven preseason games after that.

      1. Really? Well too bad for you because you can only do that I. Your sick demented delusional fanboy mind wanna be GM 😀

        1. was that supposed to be the ENGLISH language? lol.. learn how to read and write, kiddo.

          THEN come at me.

        2. There’s already a blogger here with that name, you should use no-lifer instead it suits you better

        3. LMAO!!!!! Sentence structure??? Comprehension??? WTH!!!! Told you. You can’t hide :Dumbass.

  • Like our backcourt – great mix of newbies & vets. All rookie Clarkson; 2nd pick Russell; 6th man of the year Williams; a top Euro-league player & Olympian Huertas; & 16 time all star K Bryant when not @ SF. Stay healthy guys – will be fun seeing you in action.

  • Like our backcourt – great mix of newbies & vets. All rookie Clarkson; 2nd pick Russell; 6th man of the year Williams; a top Euro-league player & Olympian Huertas; & 16 time all star K Bryant when not @ SF. Stay healthy guys – will be fun seeing you in action.

      1. young looks good too but we all agree that holmes should make it over anthony brown brown right ???

          1. bold prediction that he makes it. i like his hustle and ability to get to the foul line

      1. young looks good too but we all agree that holmes should make it over anthony brown brown right ???

          1. bold prediction that he makes it. i like his hustle and ability to get to the foul line

  • Given his Summer League performance, i’d take an efficient 12 point 7 assist game from DLO tomorrow.

  • Given his Summer League performance, i’d take an efficient 12 point 7 assist game from DLO tomorrow.

        1. Really? Played for 8 NBA teams in 11 seasons. Career 7.4 ppg including overseas play. let’s see what Huertas does.

        1. Really? Played for 8 NBA teams in 11 seasons. Career 7.4 ppg including overseas play. let’s see what Huertas does.

  • As brazilian I can say: Huertas will suffer against athletic NBA PG’s. Maybe always he should guard the slowest guard on the other team.

  • As brazilian I can say: Huertas will suffer against athletic NBA PG’s. Maybe always he should guard the slowest guard on the other team.

  • Remember, those players our Lakers played and went 1-4, are NO Where Near, the second-string of current NBA. Kid will be placed in our competitive D-League. Guy has heart, great personality, just NO NBA skills. We want to wish Mr. Russell, the best of luck. Keeping working, in about six or seven years, Mr. Russell may be ready. Thanks D’Angelo – Best

  • Remember, those players our Lakers played and went 1-4, are NO Where Near, the second-string of current NBA. Kid will be placed in our competitive D-League. Guy has heart, great personality, just NO NBA skills. We want to wish Mr. Russell, the best of luck. Keeping working, in about six or seven years, Mr. Russell may be ready. Thanks D’Angelo – Best

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