Byron Scott Explains Lakers Decision To Cut Robert Upshaw

The Los Angeles Lakers announced two roster cuts on Tuesday morning, waiving center Robert Upshaw and guard Michael Frazier II, bringing their roster to 17 players. Head coach Byron Scott said that both decisions were based on experience. Specifically with Robert Upshaw, though the Lakers saw “flashes” of what he could do, ultimately, there was a “big time learning curve on both ends of the floor.”

If things fall in the Lakers favor, the hope is for both Upshaw and Frazier II to clear waivers and for the Lakers to sign both to their D-League team, the Los Angeles D-Fenders. Scott specifically mentioned that they’d like to keep their eyes on Upshaw, should he find himself on the D-Fenders.

Regarding Upshaw’s off-the-court issues that had him dismissed from two college programs, Scott suggested they will likely be a concern for several NBA teams, until Upshaw proves otherwise.

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“Heโ€™s going to have that stigma with him for awhile, until he can kind of erase it, and thatโ€™s probably going to be one of his biggest problems to deal with,” Scott said, while also mentioning that team camaraderie factored into the Lakers decision.

Upshaw told LakersNation.com during their first week of training camp that he was extremely confident that he would make the final roster, after sizing himself up against the competition in practices. On Tuesday, Scott admitted that Upshaw’s upside is “big time,” but also said experience and creating a balanced roster outweighed his unknown potential.

After shedding about 25 pounds from the end of Summer League to the start of training camp, Scott said Upshaw’s transformation over the past couple months clearly shows his “desire to play,” but the Lakers did what was in the best interest of their team.

Both Jabari Brown and Metta World Peace will be battling for a roster spot this week. The Lakers also have an interesting case with Jonathan Holmes, who dislocated his shoulder in the Lakers win over the Portland Trail Blazers on Monday, and are responsible for his salary while he’s injured. With the NBA regular season roster maximum set at 15, expect a couple more cuts to follow for the Lakers.

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Wait, what?! A team that is building for the future cuts a guy because he has a “big time learning curve”?!!

  • Wait, what?! A team that is building for the future cuts a guy because he has a “big time learning curve”?!!

  • Enough already lol. Sad times for Laker fans when you’re mad at cutting an undrafted rookie with issues

  • Enough already lol. Sad times for Laker fans when you’re mad at cutting an undrafted rookie with issues

  • as far as this article goes, BS didnt really give a decent reason as to why he cut Upshaw, but what can you do now

  • as far as this article goes, BS didnt really give a decent reason as to why he cut Upshaw, but what can you do now

  • Sacre has experience, big time experience in dropping the ball, giving up rebounds and cheerleading. Guess Sacre’s cheerleading ways is now paying off, camaraderie stuff. Can’t believe they went for a player who hasn’t improved since he was a rookie rather than someone that can be developed alongside Randle, Clarkson & Russell. Some decision makers in the FO are really making the fan base scratch their heads big time.

  • Sacre has experience, big time experience in dropping the ball, giving up rebounds and cheerleading. Guess Sacre’s cheerleading ways is now paying off, camaraderie stuff. Can’t believe they went for a player who hasn’t improved since he was a rookie rather than someone that can be developed alongside Randle, Clarkson & Russell. Some decision makers in the FO are really making the fan base scratch their heads big time.

  • Management/coaching must know that Upshaw’s issues are still lingering.

    This “lack of experience” excuse just doesn’t hold weight. Yea Sacre has a few more years in the league, but he still sucks.

  • Management/coaching must know that Upshaw’s issues are still lingering.

    This “lack of experience” excuse just doesn’t hold weight. Yea Sacre has a few more years in the league, but he still sucks.

  • So, it is Still up to Upshaw to remain a Laker? Choose LA Bruh, Hibbert will need a break, from time to time. Keep eyes on Big Upshaw, in Defenders (and by the way here is a couple mill to stay put, while develop)

  • That’s not what fans are mad about. It’s not that Upshaw is gone, but that fact Sacre is still here.

  • So, it is Still up to Upshaw to remain a Laker? Choose LA Bruh, Hibbert will need a break, from time to time. Keep eyes on Big Upshaw, in Defenders (and by the way here is a couple mill to stay put, while develop)

  • That’s not what fans are mad about. It’s not that Upshaw is gone, but the mind-boggling fact that Sacre is still here.

  • Without Upshaw, Lakers are WEAK in the middle!! Who we got?? Sacre / Black / Hibbert / Kelly ???

  • Sacre has played well given his role as a third string center. Every team has a center like that

  • Without Upshaw, Lakers are WEAK in the middle!! Who we got?? Sacre / Black / Hibbert / Kelly ???

  • Sacre has played well given his role as a third string center. Every team has a center like that

  • If FO traded Kelly / Sacre / Black in package deal, ummm, we may get: a discount on a sm Popcorn, at the Budget movies

  • If FO traded Kelly / Sacre / Black in package deal, ummm, we may get: a discount on a sm Popcorn, at the Budget movies

  • He has to clear waivers, which means when a team waives a player, they go on the waiver wire, the other 29 teams have the option to select them off of waivers, there is a set amount of time, and then they become a F/A. So if nobody picks him up, he could sign with the Defenders, but I bet, there’s a team that could use Upshaw.

  • He has to clear waivers, which means when a team waives a player, they go on the waiver wire, the other 29 teams have the option to select them off of waivers, there is a set amount of time, and then they become a F/A. So if nobody picks him up, he could sign with the Defenders, but I bet, there’s a team that could use Upshaw.

  • Just look no further than the team we played last night, Portland. They had three 7-footers all 10 times better than Sacre.

  • Truly sad isn’t it. 29 other teams passed on Upshaw also but Lakers fans jumping off bridges cause we cut him. Hilarious

  • Just look no further than the team we played last night, Portland. They had three 7-footers all 10 times better than Sacre.

  • Truly sad isn’t it. 29 other teams passed on Upshaw also but Lakers fans jumping off bridges cause we cut him. Hilarious

  • Face it, man. Upshaw is worse than all those guys. Someday he may be good, but right now he’s not. What Scott said in the video above is absolutely accurate.

    Now quit whining and get excited about the Lakers’ season!

  • Kelly isn’t going anywhere, he’s a stretch four, he is playing well this year so far, and he is under contract for 1.7 million dollars.

  • Face it, man. Upshaw is worse than all those guys. Someday he may be good, but right now he’s not. What Scott said in the video above is absolutely accurate.

    Now quit whining and get excited about the Lakers’ season!

  • Kelly isn’t going anywhere, he’s a stretch four, he is playing well this year so far, and he is under contract for 1.7 million dollars.

  • I dunno. 30 teams passed on him in the draft. I’m not sure anyone is eager to pick him up. Maybe. I do hope he gets an NBA job. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

  • I dunno. 30 teams passed on him in the draft. I’m not sure anyone is eager to pick him up. Maybe. I do hope he gets an NBA job. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

  • I think they are worried about the issues, but it’s true that Upshaw was pretty lost out there and *right now* is not good enough to make the team. Sad to say, but Sacre actually is better *right now*.

  • I think they are worried about the issues, but it’s true that Upshaw was pretty lost out there and *right now* is not good enough to make the team. Sad to say, but Sacre actually is better *right now*.

  • CUT BYRON S-CUT NOW!!! He’s not doing the team any good and everyone should realize that by now. This is a new Laker’s team and needs new coaching style and strategies. BS is better off at being an opponent’s coach not the Lakers Nyahahahahahahahaha!!!!

  • CUT BYRON S-CUT NOW!!! He’s not doing the team any good and everyone should realize that by now. This is a new Laker’s team and needs new coaching style and strategies. BS is better off at being an opponent’s coach not the Lakers Nyahahahahahahahaha!!!!

  • I would hardly call Hibbert weak in the middle, he was a DPOY candidate just two seasons ago, Black is undersized but a capable backup when we go small, which will be the 2nd unit. Huertas and Black running the high screen and roll will be beautiful, and if the opposition cheats, Williams, and Swaggy will make them pay. MWP or Nance will round out the 2nd unit, one with experience and toughness, one with athleticism and defense.

  • I would hardly call Hibbert weak in the middle, he was a DPOY candidate just two seasons ago, Black is undersized but a capable backup when we go small, which will be the 2nd unit. Huertas and Black running the high screen and roll will be beautiful, and if the opposition cheats, Williams, and Swaggy will make them pay. Bass, MWP or Nance will round out the 2nd unit, two with experience and toughness, one with athleticism and defense.

  • i hate to say it but your right. I was pulling for him and I really do think he is better than sacre and has a better upside, but he was taking too long to learn the offense and on most plays he was slow and confused. i think he lost too much weight or didnt gain any muscle because he was being pushed around too much out there. He needs time in the DL then we can call him up later in the year or even bring him back next year.

  • i hate to say it but your right. I was pulling for him and I really do think he is better than sacre and has a better upside, but he was taking too long to learn the offense and on most plays he was slow and confused. i think he lost too much weight or didnt gain any muscle because he was being pushed around too much out there. He needs time in the DL then we can call him up later in the year or even bring him back next year.

  • I agree. Byron doesn’t know how to coach defense or offense and he throws his players under the bus.

  • I agree. Byron doesn’t know how to coach defense or offense and he throws his players under the bus.

  • I think the last play from last night shows that Scott has some tricks up his sleeve. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • I think the last play from last night shows that Scott has some tricks up his sleeve. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Yes, Sacre is a little “better” than Upshaw at the moment, but we’re going nowhere this season. Seem it would have been a better investment on the potential upside of Upshaw than the obvious mediocrity of Sacre.

    Oh well. Hopefully Sacre proves me wrong.

  • I dunno, I think this team will surprise you, come January. Give them some time. You might find yourself happy with this team.

  • Yes, Sacre is a little “better” than Upshaw at the moment, but we’re going nowhere this season. Seem it would have been a better investment on the potential upside of Upshaw than the obvious mediocrity of Sacre.

    Oh well. Hopefully Sacre proves me wrong.

  • I dunno, I think this team will surprise you, come January. Give them some time. You might find yourself happy with this team.

  • Maybe. But Byron hasn’t been known to be great at drawing up plays. That’s something D’Antoni was good at

  • Maybe. But Byron hasn’t been known to be great at drawing up plays. That’s something D’Antoni was good at

  • Here’s the real; how many times and how many teams passed on and cut Whiteside multiple times? How many teams overseas cut him loose? For every Whiteside there’s hundreds of Malcolm Thomas’s, Benoit Benjamin’s, ETC…

    Danny Green bounced around before finding his way. Trevor Ariza and so on… people need to calm down! Again, not everyone reaches upsides potential.

  • Here’s the real; how many times and how many teams passed on and cut Whiteside multiple times? How many teams overseas cut him loose? For every Whiteside there’s hundreds of Malcolm Thomas’s, Benoit Benjamin’s, ETC…

    Danny Green bounced around before finding his way. Trevor Ariza and so on… people need to calm down! Again, not everyone reaches upsides potential.

  • idk who that Dana person is, but shes a Sacre fan, he’s been with us how long, and what have we seen? Whats Jan going to show us, we havent already seen ..

  • idk who that Dana person is, but shes a Sacre fan, he’s been with us how long, and what have we seen? Whats Jan going to show us, we havent already seen ..

  • Your right, but the key word is Right Now, Sacre has four years in the NBA, and two years at Gonzaga behind him, Upshaw has 1/2 a year of college ball and Summer league.

  • Your right, but the key word is Right Now, Sacre has four years in the NBA, and two years at Gonzaga behind him, Upshaw has 1/2 a year of college ball and Summer league.

  • at this point, trying to figure how to get Upshaw to stick around. so in my current frustration. . what a WASTE of 1.7 mil

  • at this point, trying to figure how to get Upshaw to stick around. so in my current frustration. . what a WASTE of 1.7 mil

  • IF he did draw that play then good. BUT I see that last play as Kelly’s judgement and guts on display. He was determined to make up for the errant inbound pass he made earlier.

  • If Upshaw clears waivers and choose to gain experience in the D-league that could help him improve just like Jordan did without rushing. Although I agree with most here, why keep Sacre when Upshaw could be learning on the fly if placed in that situation. Sacre has hit his ceiling , theres just no where to go with him on a rebuilding team unless they plan to cut him down the road , middle of the season .. Hope FO gets it right this time.

  • One of those 7 footers was a ex Laker, Chris Kaman, and he SMOKES Sacre as a center, he’s also at least 4X more $$$

  • IF he did draw that play then good. BUT I see that last play as Kelly’s judgement and guts on display. He was determined to make up for the errant inbound pass he made earlier.

  • If Upshaw clears waivers and choose to gain experience in the D-league that could help him improve just like Jordan did without rushing. Although I agree with most here, why keep Sacre when Upshaw could be learning on the fly if placed in that situation. Sacre has hit his ceiling , theres just no where to go with him on a rebuilding team unless they plan to cut him down the road , middle of the season .. Hope FO gets it right this time.

  • One of those 7 footers was a ex Laker, Chris Kaman, and he SMOKES Sacre as a center, he’s also at least 4X more $$$

  • Well clarkson was passed on by 29 other teams as well. Ijs. Last pick of the draft

  • Well clarkson was passed on by 29 other teams as well. Ijs. Last pick of the draft

  • I hope Upshaw really wants to become a Laker, and stay on Defenders !! Actually, I would rather the Lakers play against a Black / Kelly / Sacre rather then an Upshaw

  • I hope Upshaw really wants to become a Laker, and stay on Defenders !! Actually, I would rather the Lakers play against a Black / Kelly / Sacre rather then an Upshaw

  • Wrong. JC was the 46th pick. Sacre was the 60th and last pick of his draft class.

  • Hope Upshaw choose LA too – Stick around Brother, forgive them, for they not Know what they do . . .

  • i like upshaw i was pulling for him to make the team, and we all agree that he has more upside than suckrea, but they said that the reason he was cut was not due to talent, which leads me to think it had something to due with either his heart or his drug problems. which in that case I can agree with the decision to cut him. the only thing we can hope for now at this point is that noone else picks him up (which i doubt cause i dont think he showed enough during the summer to change teams mind about him) and then we can sign him to the defenders and work with him. so hopefully this is not the last we seen of him in purple and gold

  • Wrong. JC was the 46th pick. Sacre was the 60th and last pick of his draft class.

  • Hope Upshaw choose LA too – Stick around Brother, forgive them, for they not Know what they do . . .

  • i like upshaw i was pulling for him to make the team, and we all agree that he has more upside than suckrea, but they said that the reason he was cut was not due to talent, which leads me to think it had something to due with either his heart or his drug problems. which in that case I can agree with the decision to cut him. the only thing we can hope for now at this point is that noone else picks him up (which i doubt cause i dont think he showed enough during the summer to change teams mind about him) and then we can sign him to the defenders and work with him. so hopefully this is not the last we seen of him in purple and gold

  • Look, if Black plays decent like he has, Sacre isn’t going to see the light of day anyway…. 28-30 minutes for Hibbert per game, 15-18 for Black, what’s that leave Sacre, 2-6 minutes of garbage time when the game is all but decided.

  • check out the interview at their website — Scott makes it clear the Lakers expect Upshaw to clear waivers and sign with the D-Fenders

  • Look, if Black plays decent like he has, Sacre isn’t going to see the light of day anyway…. 28-30 minutes for Hibbert per game, 15-18 for Black, what’s that leave Sacre, 2-6 minutes of garbage time when the game is all but decided.

  • check out the interview at their website — Scott makes it clear the Lakers expect Upshaw to clear waivers and sign with the D-Fenders

  • But Upshaw has too choose, to want to stay (PLEASE , PLEASE STAY WITH LAKERS !!)

  • Thank you. We’re talking third center.

    Taking fouls and waiting for somebody to get hurt is pretty much all they ever do.

  • But Upshaw has too choose, to want to stay (PLEASE , PLEASE STAY WITH LAKERS !!)

  • Thank you. We’re talking third center.

    Taking fouls and waiting for somebody to get hurt is pretty much all they ever do.

  • BS said himself that kelly ran the pay perfectly and that brown did a great job selling it. so yeah that tells me he drew it up. but kelly bet had made that shot the way he messed up on the inbounds play.

  • Upshaw now must turn down – CAVS; Clippers; Suns, jeez . . the list keeps growing! Choose Lakers, Choose Lakers . . .

  • BS said himself that kelly ran the pay perfectly and that brown did a great job selling it. so yeah that tells me he drew it up. but kelly bet had made that shot the way he messed up on the inbounds play.

  • Upshaw now must turn down – CAVS; Clippers; Suns, jeez . . the list keeps growing! Choose Lakers, Choose Lakers . . .

  • Exactly, unless Hibbert get’s in foul trouble, which he very rarely does, because he’s good with the verticality stuff, Sacre is just going to be waiving towels all year for $958 million dollars.

  • Exactly, unless Hibbert get’s in foul trouble, which he very rarely does, because he’s good with the verticality stuff, Sacre is just going to be waiving towels all year for $958 million dollars.

  • True but one who is a provenNBA talent. If Sanders is ready to return, multiple teams will be after him.

  • True but one who is a provenNBA talent. If Sanders is ready to return, multiple teams will be after him.

  • ah…is that what the “camaraderie” point was all about? I can’t believe nobody followed up on it.

  • ah…is that what the “camaraderie” point was all about? I can’t believe nobody followed up on it.

  • i doubt they even want him. we was the only team that wanted him out of the draft. and to me he didnt do enough this summer to change anyones mind about him. ounce you get bounced from two colleges, then go undrafted the get waived by team that picked you up NO ONe is really looking at y ou like yeah we need this guy. everyone is saying that dang there must be something there that he is still dealing with so we dont need him.

  • i doubt they even want him. we was the only team that wanted him out of the draft. and to me he didnt do enough this summer to change anyones mind about him. ounce you get bounced from two colleges, then go undrafted the get waived by team that picked you up NO ONe is really looking at y ou like yeah we need this guy. everyone is saying that dang there must be something there that he is still dealing with so we dont need him.

  • Hibbert will play 28-32 mpg, Black 15-18 mpg, I don’t see much of a drop off when the bench comes in, Black, Bass, Young, Williams, Huertas will put points on the board and may even extend leads against some benches.

  • Hibbert will play 28-32 mpg, Black 15-18 mpg, I don’t see much of a drop off when the bench comes in, Black, Bass, Young, Williams, Huertas will put points on the board and may even extend leads against some benches.

  • in hind sight its genuis of them to do this. they get to stash him on the defenders for maybe a year while they coach him up then next year bring him back. at which time hibberts contract is up. now if they extend hibbert then we get upshaw back backup center ready, and we 1 dont have to waste a pick on a center and two dont have to pay him that much. smart very smart

  • in hind sight its genuis of them to do this. they get to stash him on the defenders for maybe a year while they coach him up then next year bring him back. at which time hibberts contract is up. now if they extend hibbert then we get upshaw back backup center ready, and we 1 dont have to waste a pick on a center and two dont have to pay him that much. smart very smart

  • I think he should make the team, he brings more than Holmes or even Jabari at this point, we have enough guards, and MWP is a better reserve 3 than Holmes.

  • Eric Pincus- “I’ve heard execs who would pay Upshaw to NOT be around their locker room”

  • I think he should make the team, he brings more than Holmes or even Jabari at this point, we have enough guards, and MWP is a better reserve 3 than Holmes.

  • Eric Pincus- “I’ve heard execs say they would pay Upshaw to NOT be around their locker room”

  • Yup…it actually applies to both Sacre (who loves to hang out with training staff) & MWP (who has close ties to FO & randle).
    Reporters get tunnel vision…only focus on their questions

  • Yup…it actually applies to both Sacre (who loves to hang out with training staff) & MWP (who has close ties to FO & randle).
    Reporters get tunnel vision…only focus on their questions

  • Holmes shouldn’t be in the discussion.

    Jabari can score. He’s also in his second yr. He had trade value…should have traded him if they are gonna cut him. But as I’ve previously mentioned, jabari is useful when lou/young have to sit out. Especially now with huertas.

    MWP and jabari should stay. We have Kelly, bass, hibbert, black, and randle. We don’t need sacre at all

  • plus by keeping both kelly and sacre that gives us trade bait before the dead line, especially if kelly keeps playing good.

  • Holmes shouldn’t be in the discussion.

    Jabari can score. He’s also in his second yr. He had trade value…should have traded him if they are gonna cut him. But as I’ve previously mentioned, jabari is useful when lou/young have to sit out. Especially now with huertas.

    MWP and jabari should stay. We have Kelly, bass, hibbert, black, and randle. We don’t need sacre at all

  • plus by keeping both kelly and sacre that gives us trade bait before the dead line, especially if kelly keeps playing good.

  • Thats not an explanation coach . . . Kobe feels most confident with Sacre / Kelly / Black protecting Rim? REALLY ??? Not !! We are weak, vulnerable while Hibbert on Bench . . So if Hibbert, god forbid, gets injured, were back to last Yr??

  • Thats not an explanation coach . . . Kobe feels most confident with Sacre / Kelly / Black protecting Rim? REALLY ??? Not !! We are weak, vulnerable while Hibbert on Bench . . So if Hibbert, god forbid, gets injured, were back to last Yr??

  • Big Game went out of his way to praise Holmes’ effort in practice and Scott is an effort guy. I agree with you that they’ll probably go with MWP, but I wouldn’t have a problem if they gave the spot to Holmes and sent him to the d-league for a year.

    If they decide not to re-sign Kelly or Bass doesn’t work out, they’ll have a grinder with some range waiting in the wings.

  • Big Game went out of his way to praise Holmes’ effort in practice and Scott is an effort guy. I agree with you that they’ll probably go with MWP, but I wouldn’t have a problem if they gave the spot to Holmes and sent him to the d-league for a year.

    If they decide not to re-sign Kelly or Bass doesn’t work out, they’ll have a grinder with some range waiting in the wings.

  • Hibbert please don’t sit down, cause we will be back to last year of rim protectors !!

  • Hibbert please don’t sit down, cause we will be back to last year of rim protectors !!

  • See how dumb Byron Scott decisions, and you people still support this dumb-ass coach? Now is the time Fire Byron Scott!

  • See how dumb Byron Scott decisions, and you people still support this dumb-ass coach? Now is the time Fire Byron Scott!

  • Every single reporter who knows about Upshaw are holding back on his issues. Very serious stuff they don’t want to report on him.

  • Every single reporter who knows about Upshaw are holding back on his issues. Very serious stuff they don’t want to report on him.

  • To say the guy has “big time” upside then cut him. That’s exactly what happened to whiteside who continues to show that big time upside that the lakers FO declined on . yes Byron likes Sacre as a person, we get that. Don’t throw away talent for ego or friendship. Miami is a contender and Whiteside is a big part of it. Riley is not afraid of upside.

  • To say the guy has “big time” upside then cut him. That’s exactly what happened to whiteside who continues to show that big time upside that the lakers FO declined on . yes Byron likes Sacre as a person, we get that. Don’t throw away talent for ego or friendship. Miami is a contender and Whiteside is a big part of it. Riley is not afraid of upside.

  • it worked out so marvelous last year. what were they top 5 in points in the paint allowed?

  • it worked out so marvelous last year. what were they top 5 in points in the paint allowed?

  • So you guys want the Lakers to make the playoffs, but are mad that they’re putting together the best possible roster for the season? Smh make up your mind, roster spots are too valuable to waste just because a guy has potential.

  • So you guys want the Lakers to make the playoffs, but are mad that they’re putting together the best possible roster for the season? Smh make up your mind, roster spots are too valuable to waste just because a guy has potential.

  • It’s not about Upshaw or anything else. Laker fans simply want Sacre gone period

  • It’s not about Upshaw or anything else. Laker fans simply want Sacre gone period

  • WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD THE WHOLE STORY!

    On the one hand Byron says Upshaw has BIGTIME upside, and on the other he says he has a big learning curve before he is ready. What the heck?

    This makes zero sense!

  • WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD THE WHOLE STORY!

    On the one hand Byron says Upshaw has BIGTIME upside, and on the other he says he has a big learning curve before he is ready. What the heck?

    This makes zero sense!

  • I do believe that BS & the FO makes those decisions, YESTER DAY THE FO WAS THE BEST, now some guys that are not paying the bills say how bad they are, cant keep every body happy.

  • I do believe that BS & the FO makes those decisions, YESTER DAY THE FO WAS THE BEST, now some guys that are not paying the bills say how bad they are, cant keep every body happy.

  • Thought I was the only one who saw how lost Upshaw was on the court.

    Upshaw “might” be an asset in the future, but a few here has neglected the fact that the Lakers are trying to squeeze in the play off on Kobe’s swan song.

    Sacre might be a third string center would no more upside. But the Chemistry he brings to the team is invaluable.

  • Thought I was the only one who saw how lost Upshaw was on the court.

    Upshaw “might” be an asset in the future, but a few here has neglected the fact that the Lakers are trying to squeeze in the play off on Kobe’s swan song.

    Sacre might be a third string center would no more upside. But the Chemistry he brings to the team is invaluable.

  • AND the ANSWER is BECAUSE THE FO RUNS THE LAKERS and is their choice, your either a LAKER fan or not.

  • AND the ANSWER is BECAUSE THE FO RUNS THE LAKERS and is their choice, your either a LAKER fan or not.

  • Hahahaha, no sorry Dana, Sacre only looked good these last two games because of Huertas. Sacre is no way better than Upshaw. This I can not be convinced of.

  • Hahahaha, no sorry Dana, Sacre only looked good these last two games because of Huertas. Sacre is no way better than Upshaw. This I can not be convinced of.

  • Reporters have said there are HUGE issues with him that they can’t report yet.

  • Reporters have said there are HUGE issues with him that they can’t report yet.

  • This is exactly why fans are frustrated Randy.

    There has to be other reasons, because this makes NO sense.

  • This is exactly why fans are frustrated Randy.

    There has to be other reasons, because this makes NO sense.

  • Lakers FO knows the details. As well as reporters. It will come out eventually. Most if not all teams think he is toxic

  • And honestly, Chris Kaman shouldn’t be smoking anyone, let alone a 7-foot center.

  • Lakers FO knows the details. As well as reporters. It will come out eventually. Most if not all teams think he is toxic

  • And honestly, Chris Kaman shouldn’t be smoking anyone, let alone a 7-foot center.

  • You sound like a kid who’s jealous that another kid is line leader and tells on him because his shoelace is untied. Grow up.

  • You sound like a kid who’s jealous that another kid is line leader and tells on him because his shoelace is untied. Grow up.

  • Technically yes but technically he is also correct, 29 other teams did pass on Clarkson.

    Theres no guarantee that Clarkson gets picked up if we dont pick him up at 46.

    I havent read any report where a team has publicly stated they were specifically going after Clarkson.

  • Technically yes but technically he is also correct, 29 other teams did pass on Clarkson.

    Theres no guarantee that Clarkson gets picked up if we dont pick him up at 46.

    I havent read any report where a team has publicly stated they were specifically going after Clarkson.

  • What source did you use to determine that:
    “Most if not all teams think he is toxic”.

    I do believe the truth will come out eventually.

  • What source did you use to determine that:
    “Most if not all teams think he is toxic”.

    I do believe the truth will come out eventually.

  • If you don’t have nothing better to do tonight watch THE CLIPPERS/WARRIORS @ 7:30 pm on espn just to have some thing to compare for the 22nd with the LAKERS.

  • If you don’t have nothing better to do tonight watch THE CLIPPERS/WARRIORS @ 7:30 pm on espn just to have some thing to compare for the 22nd with the LAKERS.

  • I have been happy since summer league.

    No surprise on Huerta and Randle for me.

    The only surprise has been the Upshaw cut, which Im sure the TRUE reason for the cut will be revealed soon enough.

  • I have been happy since summer league.

    No surprise on Huerta and Randle for me.

    The only surprise has been the Upshaw cut, which Im sure the TRUE reason for the cut will be revealed soon enough.

  • Actually Dana is now suddenly a Sacre fan but to her defense she has called it like it is in the past about Sacre being a liability.

    I guess shes going based on this seasons games but Huertas had allot to do with Sacre doing OK.

    Take Huertas out of the equation and the real Sacre is exposed.

  • disapointed day should waive sacre , anthony brown, homles, frazier ll not upshaw deserving the roster spot 15 complete roster ๐Ÿ™

  • Actually Dana is now suddenly a Sacre fan but to her defense she has called it like it is in the past about Sacre being a liability.

    I guess shes going based on this seasons games but Huertas had allot to do with Sacre doing OK.

    Take Huertas out of the equation and the real Sacre is exposed.

  • disapointed day should waive sacre , anthony brown, homles, frazier ll not upshaw deserving the roster spot 15 complete roster ๐Ÿ™

  • Jealous? Lol. The guy can’t play. It’s nothing personal. I’m sure he’s a nice guy or whatever like people say. He simply doesn’t help the team, which means he’s hurting the team really. Where do you get jealousy from?

  • Jealous? Lol. The guy can’t play. It’s nothing personal. I’m sure he’s a nice guy or whatever like people say. He simply doesn’t help the team, which means he’s hurting the team really. Where do you get jealousy from?

  • Bless your heart. But Upshaw has a long way to go if he wants to make an NBA roster

  • Bless your heart. But Upshaw has a long way to go if he wants to make an NBA roster

  • Oh thats right! I saw that announced on the news yeterday.

    Theres a little trash talking by doc rivers going on. Should be good.

    THANKS BUDDY! Very good comparison to see how chokers do against Golden State vs how we did.

  • Oh thats right! I saw that announced on the news yeterday.

    Theres a little trash talking by doc rivers going on. Should be good.

    THANKS BUDDY! Very good comparison to see how chokers do against Golden State vs how we did.

  • Ya that has never been one of my favorite sides, but some times my wife laughs at me but I believe its for some other thing I have done.

  • Ya that has never been one of my favorite sides, but some times my wife laughs at me but I believe its for some other thing I have done.

  • what that hes a crackhead? Ive heard that but who cares. He is 7ft tall with major upside.

  • what that hes a crackhead? Ive heard that but who cares. He is 7ft tall with major upside.

  • Normally I dont watch the chokers but this will be a good study to compare to how we did.

    Plus I like the trash talking going back and forth between the chokers and Jerry West!

  • Normally I dont watch the chokers but this will be a good study to compare to how we did.

    Plus I like the trash talking going back and forth between the chokers and Jerry West!

  • You trust Sacre? I don’t have faith in him being able to stay consistent.

    You think he will help or hinder our team? I think hinder.

  • You trust Sacre? I don’t have faith in him being able to stay consistent.

    You think he will help or hinder our team? I think hinder.

  • Watch that language Al. LOL.

    Its always good that others know it too. lol.

  • Watch that language Al. LOL.

    Its always good that others know it too. lol.

  • I like to compare, I only do it with the KLAPPERS, and I have a feeling they are going to get after it. this could be good. this way we see two of our tougher teams.

  • Another stupid move. Damn jim and mitch and eapecially byron. You guys wouldnt know talent if it knocked on the door came in cooked cleaned and had your baby.. sacre should be on macabi haiffa not the lakera.. upshaw looked good.. thanks i love the team but not when saxre is in. I get frustrated just looking at his no talent having cheerleader

  • I like to compare, I only do it with the KLAPPERS, and I have a feeling they are going to get after it. this could be good. this way we see two of our tougher teams.

  • Another stupid move. Damn jim and mitch and eapecially byron. You guys wouldnt know talent if it knocked on the door came in cooked cleaned and had your baby.. sacre should be on macabi haiffa not the lakera.. upshaw looked good.. thanks i love the team but not when saxre is in. I get frustrated just looking at his no talent having cheerleader

  • Actually, I’ve watch Sacre move his feet well and play good positional defense. He has even altered shots. But I’m still not a Sacre fan. It’s a false choice to say if you’re down on Upshaw you’re high on Sacre. I’m not thrilled with either one, but looking at it dispassionately I have to admit that between the two of them, Sacre has more to offer right now than Upshaw does. That only makes me a Sacre fan in the minds of simple people who can’t think deeply or with complexity.

    I had high hopes for Upshaw, but he was unable to deliver in time. I don’t get why everyone is so crazy over him. He isn’t showing anything at all. And Sacre has some skills and is a good teammate, which anyone looking it honestly has to admit. I hope he rides the pine the whole season and he never needs to play except in practice.

    Choosing Sacre over Upshaw doesn’t mean I’m a big Sacre fan. The choice is kind of like choosing whether you’d rather have your shin hit with a hammer or your tongue scraped with a potato peeler. Neither one is a very good option.

  • Actually, I’ve watch Sacre move his feet well and play good positional defense. He has even altered shots. But I’m still not a Sacre fan. It’s a false choice to say if you’re down on Upshaw you’re high on Sacre. I’m not thrilled with either one, but looking at it dispassionately I have to admit that between the two of them, Sacre has more to offer right now than Upshaw does. That only makes me a Sacre fan in the minds of simple people who can’t think deeply or with complexity.

    I had high hopes for Upshaw, but he was unable to deliver in time. I don’t get why everyone is so crazy over him. He isn’t showing anything at all. And Sacre has some skills and is a good teammate, which anyone looking it honestly has to admit. I hope he rides the pine the whole season and he never needs to play except in practice.

    Choosing Sacre over Upshaw doesn’t mean I’m a big Sacre fan. The choice is kind of like choosing whether you’d rather have your shin hit with a hammer or your tongue scraped with a potato peeler. Neither one is a very good option.

  • BS you are truly an idiot if the reason you cut Upshaw is that because there is a learning curve !!! He is a 20 yr. old rookie just as all the rest of the rooks with physical skills not seen in 25 yrs. , 9’5 reach , 16 inch hands and all upside , I hope you are next BS !!!!

  • BS you are truly an idiot if the reason you cut Upshaw is that because there is a learning curve !!! He is a 20 yr. old rookie just as all the rest of the rooks with physical skills not seen in 25 yrs. , 9’5 reach , 16 inch hands and all upside , I hope you are next BS !!!!

  • He wont have that big of a role this season. 3rd string cheerleading less there’s injury.

  • He wont have that big of a role this season. 3rd string cheerleading less there’s injury.

  • Yes we did. We bought the pick and directed the team to pick Clarkson on our behalf.

  • Yes we did. We bought the pick and directed the team to pick Clarkson on our behalf.

  • Hope so. Because its ok to mess up preseason but imagine the last game instead being an important late season game and then not winning but loosing? He would be hated.

  • Hope so. Because its ok to mess up preseason but imagine the last game instead being an important late season game and then not winning but loosing? He would be hated.

  • I was very happy we got him but I understood his uphill battle. He did not cut the cake. Folks are tired of Sacre, I get it but those same folks were tired of Wes Johnson. Doc Rivers did not hesitate to scoop him up. Let’s not forget the Cavs wanted Sacre. Obviously there’s a market out there for him.

  • I was very happy we got him but I understood his uphill battle. He did not cut the cake. Folks are tired of Sacre, I get it but those same folks were tired of Wes Johnson. Doc Rivers did not hesitate to scoop him up. Let’s not forget the Cavs wanted Sacre. Obviously there’s a market out there for him.

  • Well I got a bowl of ice cream and now to settle down for the day , catch ya later.

  • Well I got a bowl of ice cream and now to settle down for the day , catch ya later.

  • That’s dependant on the organization. On the Spurs, for example, Pop, the GM, and the Owner all work close and decide together what’s good for the team.

  • You must be a clipper fan if you rather have sacre than upshaw.. laker fan since 88 and besides kwame and morrison hes the worst player weve had in a while.. sacre couldn’t play in the wnba. Were byrin Scott coulsnt coach either.

  • That’s dependant on the organization. On the Spurs, for example, Pop, the GM, and the Owner all work close and decide together what’s good for the team.

  • You must be a clipper fan if you rather have sacre than upshaw.. laker fan since 88 and besides kwame and morrison hes the worst player weve had in a while.. sacre couldn’t play in the wnba. Were byrin Scott coulsnt coach either.

  • You guys wouldn’t know talent if it knocked on the door, came in, cooked, cleaned and had your baby.

    That’s an odd comment to make given the talent the squad has and were picked by the FO. Or does Hibbert, Randle, Clarkson, Huertas, Russell, Lou and Bass not count? ‘Specially since the Lakers took a chance and went by their gut on a second rounder in Clarkson.

  • You guys wouldn’t know talent if it knocked on the door, came in, cooked, cleaned and had your baby.

    That’s an odd comment to make given the talent the squad has and were picked by the FO. Or does Hibbert, Randle, Clarkson, Huertas, Russell, Lou and Bass not count? ‘Specially since the Lakers took a chance and went by their gut on a second rounder in Clarkson.

  • BS is such an incompetent coach sometimes
    I hope some other team claims Upshaw and he becomes a beast

  • BS is such an incompetent coach sometimes
    I hope some other team claims Upshaw and he becomes a beast

  • 30 teams passed on him in the draft. Another 29 teams will pass on him when he goes unclaimed on waivers.

  • 30 teams passed on him in the draft. Another 29 teams will pass on him when he goes unclaimed on waivers.

  • bro, upshaw CANNOT set a screen for his life. the potential is there, but many don’t even get to touch their ceiling and with drug issues…. I would of cut the dude as well.

  • bro, upshaw CANNOT set a screen for his life. the potential is there, but many don’t even get to touch their ceiling and with drug issues…. I would of cut the dude as well.

  • I don’t use cable I use DISH FOR 28 YEARS @ one time I had one of those 12 dishes on my roof, with a remote in the house and if you wanted to watch some thing else you had to go to a different satellite, you spent most of your time moving the dish.

  • Only time will Tell about this decision….Hopefully it doesn’t comeback to haunt them.

  • I don’t use cable I use DISH FOR 28 YEARS @ one time I had one of those 12 dishes on my roof, with a remote in the house and if you wanted to watch some thing else you had to go to a different satellite, you spent most of your time moving the dish.

  • Only time will Tell about this decision….Hopefully it doesn’t comeback to haunt them.

  • They vaguely explained why the kid got cut and the experience part seems kinda like a very lame cover to what the real reason is especially they also mentioned something about his off court issues, whatever it is it must have scared them enough for them to waive him right away,they just haven’t mentioned it coz it might be embarrassing on Upshaws part

  • They vaguely explained why the kid got cut and the experience part seems kinda like a very lame cover to what the real reason is especially they also mentioned something about his off court issues, whatever it is it must have scared them enough for them to waive him right away,they just haven’t mentioned it coz it might be embarrassing on Upshaws part

  • What could Mitch want in Sacre / Kelly / Black, again? Allowing that many points in the paint, equals high percentage points too

  • What could Mitch want in Sacre / Kelly / Black, again? Allowing that many points in the paint, equals high percentage points too

  • It cost 2.44 per game to watch any game being played that night, I cant say I am spending to much to for BB And that’s the full season.. That covers any or all games.

  • It cost 2.44 per game to watch any game being played that night, I cant say I am spending to much to for BB And that’s the full season.. That covers any or all games.

  • Just can’t believe Sacre / Kelly / Black is all the Lakers want, to improve on 21 wins

  • Just can’t believe Sacre / Kelly / Black is all the Lakers want, to improve on 21 wins

  • all those players gave it all, showed all, for our 21 wins. Can we demand more, out of these guys ?

  • all those players gave it all, showed all, for our 21 wins. Can we demand more, out of these guys ?

  • Don’t agree . . . not sure what FO was looking for, protecting rim. But this yr, Lakers will be hurting AGAIN, should Hibbert need a rest – God Help Us

  • Don’t agree . . . not sure what FO was looking for, protecting rim. But this yr, Lakers will be hurting AGAIN, should Hibbert need a rest – God Help Us

  • At the end of the day they waived the kid for a reason, whatever it is who knows they’re very vague on what the real reason is but it seems it has something to do with his off court issues which is drugs ,it might be too embarrassing on Upshaws part that’s why they haven’t really explained why he got cut

  • It was obvious Upshaw’s issues trumped the Lakers’ need for a rim protector

  • At the end of the day they waived the kid for a reason, whatever it is who knows they’re very vague on what the real reason is but it seems it has something to do with his off court issues which is drugs ,it might be too embarrassing on Upshaws part that’s why they haven’t really explained why he got cut

  • It was obvious Upshaw’s issues trumped the Lakers’ need for a rim protector

  • Yes smart move 4 the Lakers nows the time to lock sacre in for a 5 year 26 million contract lakers are sharp

    Can we please get a new coach

  • Try to think how he list 20+ lbs so quickly between sl and pre season

  • Yes smart move 4 the Lakers nows the time to lock sacre in for a 5 year 26 million contract lakers are sharp

    Can we please get a new coach

  • Try to think how he lost 20+ lbs so quickly between sl and pre season

  • Don’t forget the rooks- Nance Jr and Anthony Brown who are both showing potential

  • don’t know what can be more embarrassing then being waived (what ever that means?). Don’t think its drugs, I think FO is just unwilling to work with Upshaw – Some team will, very certain of that

  • Nance has looked good. Anthony hasn’t yet but I have high hopes! Kelly surprisingly has looked very good!

  • Don’t forget the rooks- Nance Jr and Anthony Brown who are both showing potential

  • don’t know what can be more embarrassing then being waived (what ever that means?). Don’t think its drugs, I think FO is just unwilling to work with Upshaw – Some team will, very certain of that

  • Nance has looked good. Anthony hasn’t yet but I have high hopes! Kelly surprisingly has looked very good!

  • Like I said they’re very vague at their explanation and the experience part seems like a crotch to the real reason which they just said his off court issues, which is DRUGS

  • Like I said they’re very vague at their explanation and the experience part seems like a crotch to the real reason which they just said his off court issues, which is DRUGS

  • Let’s wait til the season starts. If he can make it to past the first two games then yeah lol

  • Let’s wait til the season starts. If he can make it to past the first two games then yeah lol

  • drugs WAS probably, but if FO is dragging up past, I’m sure there are alot of closets that may be quite embarrassing to Most players, with their skeletons

  • drugs WAS probably, but if FO is dragging up past, I’m sure there are alot of closets that may be quite embarrassing to Most players, with their skeletons

  • “Clear waivers” just means that no other teams claim him and he becomes a free agent.

    The Lakers can then sign him to the D-Fenders, but he would be free to sign with another team until the Lakers actually offer him a roster spot.

  • “Clear waivers” just means that no other teams claim him and he becomes a free agent.

    The Lakers can then sign him to the D-Fenders, but he would be free to sign with another team until the Lakers actually offer him a roster spot.

  • I wouldn’t even want to insinuate about drug use, that is just hate . . . speaking of losing weight, I lost 30 pounds in three months – just SERIOUSLY reduced my food intake, drank plenty of water thou

  • I wouldn’t even want to insinuate about drug use, that is just hate . . . speaking of losing weight, I lost 30 pounds in three months – just SERIOUSLY reduced my food intake, drank plenty of water thou

  • Dude the league has a yearly mandatory drug test and the kid has a history of drug abuse that’s why he got kicked out on two college programs, he lost 20 lbs so fast between sl and pre season , if it is drugs they probably just don’t wanna embarrass the kid that’s why they are vague on their explanation

  • Dude the league has a yearly mandatory drug test and the kid has a history of drug abuse that’s why he got kicked out on two college programs, he lost 20 lbs so fast between sl and pre season , if it is drugs they probably just don’t wanna embarrass the kid that’s why they are vague on their explanation

  • gotcha, thank you for that . . . Upshaw would have to agree to being claimed right? Like with an offer ?

  • gotcha, thank you for that . . . Upshaw would have to agree to being claimed right? Like with an offer ?

  • Not hate it’s a fact some drugs can make a person loose weight fast like meth and between summer league and pre season is a very short period of time to loose 20+ lbs that fast

  • Not hate it’s a fact some drugs can make a person loose weight fast like meth and between summer league and pre season is a very short period of time to loose 20+ lbs that fast

  • Vet experience? Sacre!? I hope Scott is used to cuts because the Lakers are going to cut the coaching staff after a season full of Sacre’s “veteran” fouls

  • “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work. Not smart.” – Source within Lakers

  • Vet experience? Sacre!? I hope Scott is used to cuts because the Lakers are going to cut the coaching staff after a season full of Sacre’s “veteran” fouls

  • “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.” – Source within Lakers

  • Just so Sad, when FO is sooo misguided and allows such poor decisions – Wonder if I can hold my tongue, at my next meeting with either Mitch or JBuss – or will I say, “You are such a stupid person”. Knowing Me, I will end up verbalizing myself:)

  • Just so Sad, when FO is sooo misguided and allows such poor decisions – Wonder if I can hold my tongue, at my next meeting with either Mitch or JBuss – or will I say, “You are such a stupid person”. Knowing Me, I will end up verbalizing myself:)

  • Doubtful other team would pick him up since they mentioned something about his off court issues which is a big red flag already to other teams he might end up with the defenders

  • Doubtful other team would pick him up since they mentioned something about his off court issues which is a big red flag already to other teams he might end up with the defenders

  • Boring game so far between chokers and Warriors.

    I feel sorry for Blake, all that talent on a choke prone team. Waste of talent.

    I’ll tell you right now
    Huertas > CP3
    Hibbert > D Jordan
    (Future) Randle > Blake

    Yes I’m saying it.

  • Boring game so far between chokers and Warriors.

    I feel sorry for Blake, all that talent on a choke prone team. Waste of talent.

    I’ll tell you right now
    Huertas > CP3
    Hibbert > D Jordan
    (Future) Randle > Blake

    Yes I’m saying it.

  • Everyone passed on Whiteside Miami found him in desperation let’s not make Rikey look like a genius,he had so many injuries that he gave Whiteside a chance.,Upshaw will need to prove himself in the D League.. The 35,000 guarantee was telling everyone that they weren’t going to put much investment in his early development. He had himself to blame.

  • Everyone passed on Whiteside Miami found him in desperation let’s not make Rikey look like a genius,he had so many injuries that he gave Whiteside a chance.,Upshaw will need to prove himself in the D League.. The 35,000 guarantee was telling everyone that they weren’t going to put much investment in his early development. He had himself to blame.

  • not saying that bro, i dont like sacre, and i perfered to keep upshaw over sacre, im just stating facts. FO has said that it wasnt due to on court stuff so just like everything else in upshaws life he has let off court issues and or heart health stop his progress from basketball. ALSO FO does want to sign him to DL so not all is lost here.

  • not saying that bro, i dont like sacre, and i perfered to keep upshaw over sacre, im just stating facts. FO has said that it wasnt due to on court stuff so just like everything else in upshaws life he has let off court issues and or heart health stop his progress from basketball. ALSO FO does want to sign him to DL so not all is lost here.

  • I just don’t understand, thought Lakes were on road to re-building the middle on D. Looks pretty much the same, once Hibbert sits, unless Roy can play all games. just smh, wow

  • I just don’t understand, thought Lakes were on road to re-building the middle on D. Looks pretty much the same, once Hibbert sits, unless Roy can play all games. just smh, wow

  • Byron mentioning Upshaw past possibly being an issue to other teams . It could be a preventive talk. Scare tactic. They do want Upshaw to clear waiver and go to the defenders. That’s his gamble. Teams may believe and not pick him up. I doubt.

  • Byron mentioning Upshaw past possibly being an issue to other teams . It could be a preventive talk. Scare tactic. They do want Upshaw to clear waiver and go to the defenders. That’s his gamble. Teams may believe and not pick him up. I doubt.

  • I actually was having improved hopes for Mitch, in re-building our Middle for Defense – then Mitch goes back to what we had last yr. I’m just so Stunned. Not too certain about winning more then 21 games now, without adequate rim protection, when Hibbert sits. I’m TRYING, i’m trying to get over it . . . Now it is just wait and see if Robert Upshaw ends up with Defenders – then my hopes of going beyond 21 wins will be revived once again

  • I actually was having improved hopes for Mitch, in re-building our Middle for Defense – then Mitch goes back to what we had last yr. I’m just so Stunned. Not too certain about winning more then 21 games now, without adequate rim protection, when Hibbert sits. I’m TRYING, i’m trying to get over it . . . Now it is just wait and see if Robert Upshaw ends up with Defenders – then my hopes of going beyond 21 wins will be revived once again

  • I don’t know who you’re quoting but Not what Bresnahan said.

    “often left the training facility after practice without putting in extra work”

    Big difference between leaving practice and leaving after practice.

  • I don’t know who you’re quoting but Not what Bresnahan said.

    “often left the training facility after practice without putting in extra work”

    Big difference between leaving practice and leaving after practice.

  • all yall typing with your emotions. I like upshaw and wanted him to make the team. HE DIDNT BECAUSE OF OFF COURT ISSUES. damn i wish some of yall would read the whole thing. FO office basically said in so many words that he is better than sacre but because of these issues he was cut. now when they sign him to a GUARANTEED contract im sure they had some stipulations that went along with that, apparently upshaw didn’t hold up his end of the bargain. noone is to blame here but upshaw himself not the FO. lossen up your panties with all this crying. it really didnt matter which one made the 3rd string center (3RD FREAKING STRING) THEY WASNT GETTING ANY PLAYING TIME ANYWAYS) atleast in the DL upshaw we get better for next year.

  • all yall typing with your emotions. I like upshaw and wanted him to make the team. HE DIDNT BECAUSE OF OFF COURT ISSUES. damn i wish some of yall would read the whole thing. FO office basically said in so many words that he is better than sacre but because of these issues he was cut. now when they sign him to a GUARANTEED contract im sure they had some stipulations that went along with that, apparently upshaw didn’t hold up his end of the bargain. noone is to blame here but upshaw himself not the FO. lossen up your panties with all this crying. it really didnt matter which one made the 3rd string center (3RD FREAKING STRING) THEY WASNT GETTING ANY PLAYING TIME ANYWAYS) atleast in the DL upshaw we get better for next year.

  • I know, right? They admit they had a problem keeping teams out of the paint so they got Hibbert. None of the bigs from last year did the job and 2 of them have spots on the team. I, mean do we only need 1 shot blocker? problem solved? Hibbert gets hurt, where is the defense gonna be at?

  • I know, right? They admit they had a problem keeping teams out of the paint so they got Hibbert. None of the bigs from last year did the job and 2 of them have spots on the team. I, mean do we only need 1 shot blocker? problem solved? Hibbert gets hurt, where is the defense gonna be at?

  • I’m not sure, to be honest. I would imagine there’s some kind of “out” language for both the player and the team in the waiver process buried deep within the recesses of the CBA.

  • I’m not sure, to be honest. I would imagine there’s some kind of “out” language for both the player and the team in the waiver process buried deep within the recesses of the CBA.

  • Being pretty lost and/or out of position is expected out of a rookie. As a young player the great Kobe Bryant himself often went for the flashy play than the simple one, was turnover prone, and deviated from the system often (still does actually). The talent was obviously there with Kobe then and it’s obvious with Upshaw now.

    Even with his inexperience, Upshaw made some plays in this pre-season that Sacre can only dream of.

    Him getting cut is due solely to Upshaw’s “other issues”. It sucks but the FO and coaching staff had a better idea of his issues than we did.

  • Being pretty lost and/or out of position is expected out of a rookie. As a young player the great Kobe Bryant himself often went for the flashy play than the simple one, was turnover prone, and deviated from the system often (still does actually). The talent was obviously there with Kobe then and it’s obvious with Upshaw now.

    Even with his inexperience, Upshaw made some plays in this pre-season that Sacre can only dream of.

    Him getting cut is due solely to Upshaw’s “other issues”. It sucks but the FO and coaching staff had a better idea of his issues than we did.

  • I think it’s apparent when Scott said team comraderie was an issue, they didn’t like him. You have to admit that Upshaw gave off that “crackhead” vibe. He’s a project and one that needs babysitting, we have too many young players to spend time and energy on him apparently. With all of sacres shortcomings he seems like a great dude…that’s apparently enough in the NBA to be a 3rd string center on a low end team.

  • Not sure if emotions were involved . . . just based on what I was shown, raw talent. I had already seen the other three last year. I’m really concerned should Hibbert need time away.

  • I think it’s apparent when Scott said team comraderie was an issue, they didn’t like him. You have to admit that Upshaw gave off that “crackhead” vibe. He’s a project and one that needs babysitting, we have too many young players to spend time and energy on him apparently. With all of sacres shortcomings he seems like a great dude…that’s apparently enough in the NBA to be a 3rd string center on a low end team.

  • Not sure if emotions were involved . . . just based on what I was shown, raw talent. I had already seen the other three last year. I’m really concerned should Hibbert need time away.

  • Theres no excuse. Lakers are now a dismal franchise. I was born a lakers fan. Kobe #8 poster on my wall still. Im now embarassed at how the FO are handling things smh. Even Towns has bad nights with more PT but they cut this guy smh

  • Theres no excuse. Lakers are now a dismal franchise. I was born a lakers fan. Kobe #8 poster on my wall still. Im now embarassed at how the FO are handling things smh. Even Towns has bad nights with more PT but they cut this guy smh

  • All this does, is show that in order to be a member of the greatest basketball franchise in the world for 4 years, you just have to be 7 feet tall and waive a towel over your head like a spastic.

  • All this does, is show that in order to be a member of the greatest basketball franchise in the world for 4 years, you just have to be 7 feet tall and waive a towel over your head like a spastic.

  • Miami didn’t just find him . Their assistant GM was on top of it for a long time. He actually made it happen. But Riley made the final decision. Genius or not, bottom line, he has the diamond you threw away.

    If you say Upshaw is to blame, I can agree with that too. If I was going after that position I wouldn’t let someone with less talent take my spot.

  • From Robert Upshaw’s point of view, I can empathize and see that Big Upshaw, if any thing managed to showcase his skills to entire NBA. Thats whats really scary to me, that Upshaw may not last waiting in waivers or D League, without being lured to another team. Lakers may lose again . . .

  • Miami didn’t just find him . Their assistant GM was on top of it for a long time. He actually made it happen. But Riley made the final decision. Genius or not, bottom line, he has the diamond you threw away.

    If you say Upshaw is to blame, I can agree with that too. If I was going after that position I wouldn’t let someone with less talent take my spot.

  • From Robert Upshaw’s point of view, I can empathize and see that Big Upshaw, if any thing managed to showcase his skills to entire NBA. Thats whats really scary to me, that Upshaw may not last waiting in waivers or D League, without being lured to another team. Lakers may lose again . . .

  • I think it was in their plans all along for him to go to the d league which would make a lot of sense because he needs a lot of work

  • I think it was in their plans all along for him to go to the d league which would make a lot of sense because he needs a lot of work

  • Either way, Buss Family, Mitch are still getting their MILLIONS – whether Lakers win 21 games or make the playoffs. They just keep filling up the seats, and their pockets – got to love that model. win win for Buss and Mitch. Poor Laker Fans are at their mercy, at the end of the day

  • Either way, Buss Family, Mitch are still getting their MILLIONS – whether Lakers win 21 games or make the playoffs. They just keep filling up the seats, and their pockets – got to love that model. win win for Buss and Mitch. Poor Laker Fans are at their mercy, at the end of the day

  • We know what we have in Sacre, and his contribution can be replaced by a dozen unemployed 7 footers. On the other hand, with Upshaw…I saw some flashes. I also saw a guy that was motivated to lose 25#. I am all for him playing for the Defenders, but it is a bit of a risk that someone may claim him. I would go so far as to say if it was Upshaw or Black…Upshaw goes, because potential is trumped by proven production. But Sacre.has a low ceiling…I mean really, how much better is Sacre going to be on his best day? 5 points and 5 rebounds? But Upshaw can be a defensive anchor….10 points, 7 boards, and 1.5 blocks seem very reasonable.

  • We know what we have in Sacre, and his contribution can be replaced by a dozen unemployed 7 footers. On the other hand, with Upshaw…I saw some flashes. I also saw a guy that was motivated to lose 25#. I am all for him playing for the Defenders, but it is a bit of a risk that someone may claim him. I would go so far as to say if it was Upshaw or Black…Upshaw goes, because potential is trumped by proven production. But Sacre.has a low ceiling…I mean really, how much better is Sacre going to be on his best day? 5 points and 5 rebounds? But Upshaw can be a defensive anchor….10 points, 7 boards, and 1.5 blocks seem very reasonable.

  • Preseason stats
    Robert Sacre (3 year NBA Player)
    45 minutes, 4-10 (0.400), 10 reb, 2 ast, 2 blk, 8 pf, 2 to, 11pts
    Robert Upshaw (Rookie)
    56 minutes 4-9 (0.444), 12 reb, 2 ast, 3 blk, 10 pf, 2 to, 10pts

    I’m sorry but these stats are basically the same, so who is it really who needs a “big time learning curve”??

  • This is part of the plan to build Robert Upshaw throw adversity at him to see how he responds to it he can either continue to show he is willing to work for it or he can crumble and go back to his old ways, the Lakers want this guy but he is a project and will be a few years away , don’t rule him out if he can stay straight and work on his game

  • Preseason stats
    Robert Sacre (3 year NBA Player)
    45 minutes, 4-10 (0.400), 10 reb, 2 ast, 2 blk, 8 pf, 2 to, 11pts
    Robert Upshaw (Rookie)
    56 minutes 4-9 (0.444), 12 reb, 2 ast, 3 blk, 10 pf, 2 to, 10pts

    I’m sorry but these stats are basically the same, so who is it really who needs a “big time learning curve”??

  • This is part of the plan to build Robert Upshaw throw adversity at him to see how he responds to it he can either continue to show he is willing to work for it or he can crumble and go back to his old ways, the Lakers want this guy but he is a project and will be a few years away , don’t rule him out if he can stay straight and work on his game

  • Hearing a lot of negatives….look – I LIKE Upshaw. I see he has a ton of potential….but it is POTENTIAL. It was clear in the preseason that he has a lot of learning to do. Nothing wrong with that except we can only carry a certain amount of players. We have a clear cut starter. And two back ups. It just isn’t his time. Hope the kid keeps working and growing and finds a place in this league, hopefully with us. But it just isn’t his year this year. People need to show some support to this team…players, coaches, everyone. This is LakerNation.

  • Hearing a lot of negatives….look – I LIKE Upshaw. I see he has a ton of potential….but it is POTENTIAL. It was clear in the preseason that he has a lot of learning to do. Nothing wrong with that except we can only carry a certain amount of players. We have a clear cut starter. And two back ups. It just isn’t his time. Hope the kid keeps working and growing and finds a place in this league, hopefully with us. But it just isn’t his year this year. People need to show some support to this team…players, coaches, everyone. This is LakerNation.

  • But….watching the game last night it looked clear (to me at least) that Upshaw just isn’t ready. Flashes of what could be….but still so raw. He needs time to develop and this just isn’t the spot for him right now.

  • But….watching the game last night it looked clear (to me at least) that Upshaw just isn’t ready. Flashes of what could be….but still so raw. He needs time to develop and this just isn’t the spot for him right now.

  • No, something about this whole thing, stinks to high heaven. Lakers threw adversary at Scare / Kelly / Black, they ended up allowing too many points in paint, Lakers did NOT make playoffs. What player or HUMAN doesn’t have issues away from the their regular job? No, this was a terrible way to handle Upshaw. No doubt in my mind, that Upshaw will one day be in the Hall of Fame, just Pray it is as a Laker

  • No, something about this whole thing, stinks to high heaven. Lakers threw adversary at Scare / Kelly / Black, they ended up allowing too many points in paint, Lakers did NOT make playoffs. What player or HUMAN doesn’t have issues away from the their regular job? No, this was a terrible way to handle Upshaw. No doubt in my mind, that Upshaw will one day be in the Hall of Fame, just Pray it is as a Laker

  • We can lob a lot of complaints at the FO….but in my admittedly limited opinion, recognizing and developing young talent is not one of them. Every year we have a breakout young star….signed and picked by the FO. These guys have a good track record. I like Upshaw. But maybe he wasn’t going to be a JC style breakout player this year.

  • We can lob a lot of complaints at the FO….but in my admittedly limited opinion, recognizing and developing young talent is not one of them. Every year we have a breakout young star….signed and picked by the FO. These guys have a good track record. I like Upshaw. But maybe he wasn’t going to be a JC style breakout player this year.

  • I hope so too…but not because BS is incompetent but because I like to see people succeed. The reality is a lot of teams passed on the kid and we gave him a shot. It just did not work out this year. Lot’s of players are going to be cut the next few days. The League is rough like that. Hope the kid gets another chance. Trust that the Front Office knows what they are doing.

  • I hope so too…but not because BS is incompetent but because I like to see people succeed. The reality is a lot of teams passed on the kid and we gave him a shot. It just did not work out this year. Lot’s of players are going to be cut the next few days. The League is rough like that. Hope the kid gets another chance. Trust that the Front Office knows what they are doing.

  • But that’s the thing….Upshaw cannot play yet either. We are not talking about big minutes here. Backups and role minutes. You need a guy who can come in and fill minutes on the NBA level while providing something for the team. Upshaw wasn’t there yet.

  • But that’s the thing….Upshaw cannot play yet either. We are not talking about big minutes here. Backups and role minutes. You need a guy who can come in and fill minutes on the NBA level while providing something for the team. Upshaw wasn’t there yet.

  • ha, when like last year, we are getting Dunked on, lay up after lay up, 21 wins – Really? Support for FO? You want me to help pay FO million dollar salary, for every stupid mistake year after year? Do U even realize, LakerNation is about titles, and when was our Last, 2005? FO needs to surround Kobe (GOAT) with Rim Protectors – NOT THE SAME O’LE LOSING SAME O’LE. LakerNation USE to be the best in the West, now we are just FO millionaire feeders that don’t need titles, only a Fan Base. How many games, do FANS need to boycott before FO wins titles again?

  • Come on man, this thing about Upshaw having drug problems is just blown out of proportion, it was just some marijuana in college which is not to say he would not do it again, but there are a lot(and i mean a lot ) of players who smoke weed right now in the NBA. And cutting him because he has a big learning curve is just stupid, the team is in rebuilding. The embarrassing thing is that we cut a player that could potential be good and we keep a player who for the last 3 years was a good cheerleader but did not help the team.

  • ha, when like last year, we are getting Dunked on, lay up after lay up, 21 wins – Really? Support for FO? You want me to help pay FO million dollar salary, for every stupid mistake year after year? Do U even realize, LakerNation is about titles, and when was our Last, 2005? FO needs to surround Kobe (GOAT) with Rim Protectors – NOT THE SAME O’LE LOSING SAME O’LE. LakerNation USE to be the best in the West, now we are just FO millionaire feeders that don’t need titles, only a Fan Base. How many games, do FANS need to boycott before FO wins titles again?

  • Come on man, this thing about Upshaw having drug problems is just blown out of proportion, it was just some marijuana in college which is not to say he would not do it again, but there are a lot(and i mean a lot ) of players who smoke weed right now in the NBA. And cutting him because he has a big learning curve is just stupid, the team is in rebuilding. The embarrassing thing is that we cut a player that could potential be good and we keep a player who for the last 3 years was a good cheerleader but did not help the team.

  • What are the chances of BOYCOTTING all Laker Games, till Front Office stops putting the wrong players in our beloved P&G, and get serious about winning titles ? ?

  • What are the chances of BOYCOTTING all Laker Games, till Front Office stops putting the wrong players in our beloved P&G, and get serious about winning titles ? ?

  • We got Hibbert! Tarik Black brings something to the court too. Is Sacre an all-star? No. But he is a third string guy. He is not making or breaking your championship dreams. And neither was Upshaw. You can’t win a title every year forever. Build up, break down (either by nature taking it’s course or the attrition of the way things work). Then build up again. We’ve got a great young core (FO). Some proven veterans. (FO). Things are getting good again. Don’t forget, those titles we celebrate CAME from players, coaches, and FO signings. We’ve got good, smart people working on our side. Keep the faith. We will be back in the mix soon!

  • We got Hibbert! Tarik Black brings something to the court too. Is Sacre an all-star? No. But he is a third string guy. He is not making or breaking your championship dreams. And neither was Upshaw. You can’t win a title every year forever. Build up, break down (either by nature taking it’s course or the attrition of the way things work). Then build up again. We’ve got a great young core (FO). Some proven veterans. (FO). Things are getting good again. Don’t forget, those titles we celebrate CAME from players, coaches, and FO signings. We’ve got good, smart people working on our side. Keep the faith. We will be back in the mix soon!

  • You know, if Upshaw and Sacre had both been cut, nobody would be complaining this much. The only thing that I can see that makes sense, is that Byron Scott wants to win now, he doesn’t want to develop guys, he wants enough W’s to satisfy the FO that he is the guy for the job (DLo has also barely had any burn). That’s the only reason I can see for going with ‘experience’ in a season where the main goal should be developing these young guys. That being said I think Upshaw was deliberately thrown to the wolves in the last game, where he played with Clarkson and Young who didn’t defend nor pass the ball, they just jacked up shot after shot all the while doing no defensive work on the perimeter against the Blazers first unit. Meanwhile Sacre gets to play with Huertas and DLo getting everyone involved against the Blazers second unit (But of course Sacre still managed to screw this up). This totally reeks of Scott’s own self serving agenda.

  • You know, if Upshaw and Sacre had both been cut, nobody would be complaining this much. The only thing that I can see that makes sense, is that Byron Scott wants to win now, he doesn’t want to develop guys, he wants enough W’s to satisfy the FO that he is the guy for the job (DLo has also barely had any burn). That’s the only reason I can see for going with ‘experience’ in a season where the main goal should be developing these young guys. That being said I think Upshaw was deliberately thrown to the wolves in the last game, where he played with Clarkson and Young who didn’t defend nor pass the ball, they just jacked up shot after shot all the while doing no defensive work on the perimeter against the Blazers first unit. Meanwhile Sacre gets to play with Huertas and DLo getting everyone involved against the Blazers second unit (But of course Sacre still managed to screw this up). This totally reeks of Scott’s own self serving agenda.

  • upshaw is a little better than sacre but i wouldnt of expected to see him on the court much anyway, he does need to develop more he will be back .

  • upshaw is a little better than sacre but i wouldnt of expected to see him on the court much anyway, he does need to develop more he will be back .

  • what are you implying that upshaw would make them a playoff team? he didnt hold that much weight on the roster, and the team is wayy better then 21 wins.

  • what are you implying that upshaw would make them a playoff team? he didnt hold that much weight on the roster, and the team is wayy better then 21 wins.

  • So basically no reason at all. It’ll be our loss once again.

  • And 12 teams passed on Kobe. Should the Lakers have followed suit? You always post dumb comments.

  • And 12 teams passed on Kobe. Should the Lakers have followed suit? You always post dumb comments.

  • I rather have Upshaw than Sacre. I don’t know how Sacre has lasted this long. He doesn’t add much to the team other than the body at that position. Upshaw can do that and will be an asset as he continues to improve. Sacre has already hit his ceiling and that is a low ceiling.

    I hope Artest makes the team. Of course he is not the same player he once was. But his experience an veteran leadership can help a team. I wouldn’t mind keeping Jabari. The man to cut is Kelly. He will not be that valuable during the season.

  • I rather have Upshaw than Sacre. I don’t know how Sacre has lasted this long. He doesn’t add much to the team other than the body at that position. Upshaw can do that and will be an asset as he continues to improve. Sacre has already hit his ceiling and that is a low ceiling.

    I hope Artest makes the team. Of course he is not the same player he once was. But his experience an veteran leadership can help a team. I wouldn’t mind keeping Jabari. The man to cut is Kelly. He will not be that valuable during the season.

  • Boy oh boy. The idiots on the web. It’s amazing. WTH has Kobe got to do with this? He was a lotto pick and was not gonna fall out of the top 14 due to character issues or other things. Kick rocks fool.

  • Boy oh boy. The idiots on the web. It’s amazing. WTH has Kobe got to do with this? He was a lotto pick and was not gonna fall out of the top 14 due to character issues or other things. Kick rocks fool.

  • Scott see’s the BIGGER picture. Each win this season maximize our chances of landing those two max players we’ll be able to afford next off season. Experienced players will give us wins NOW resulting in being attractive to those guys in the offseason. This way, once we get our big signing(s), the young guys can develope while competing for championships instead of competing for the 7 or 8th playoff spot. Our youngsters will get their minutes, our team isn’t good enough for them not to…..but again, we have to look at the bigger picture, I don’t know about you, but I don’t want us to end up like the 76ers……….they’ve been “developing” their youngsters for almost 15 years.

  • Scott see’s the BIGGER picture. Each win this season maximize our chances of landing those two max players we’ll be able to afford next off season. Experienced players will give us wins NOW resulting in being attractive to those guys in the offseason. This way, once we get our big signing(s), the young guys can develope while competing for championships instead of competing for the 7 or 8th playoff spot. Our youngsters will get their minutes, our team isn’t good enough for them not to…..but again, we have to look at the bigger picture, I don’t know about you, but I don’t want us to end up like the 76ers……….they’ve been “developing” their youngsters for almost 15 years.

  • You must be in detox again if you think that’s all that’s going on here, DP.

  • You must be in detox again if you think that’s all that’s going on here, DP.

  • Look guys, everyone with half a brain knows Upshaw has potential. BUT our FO isn’t stupid. Sacre is on an expiring contract……and even though his isn’t much, expiring contracts are like gold near trade deadline. That’s why he wasn’t cut, his cap friendly contract might be the scale tipper on a trade the FO might pursue later on in the year. Where as Upshaw, a signing would have to mean multiple years……and that might (will) cause teams to turn their heads if he’s included in a trade.

  • Look guys, everyone with half a brain knows Upshaw has potential. BUT our FO isn’t stupid. Sacre is on an expiring contract……and even though his isn’t much, expiring contracts are like gold near trade deadline. That’s why he wasn’t cut, his cap friendly contract might be the scale tipper on a trade the FO might pursue later on in the year. Where as Upshaw, a signing would have to mean multiple years……and that might (will) cause teams to turn their heads if he’s included in a trade.

  • If Scott is seeing the bigger picture he’s not in it. He sucks s a coach and if he is here when these free agents are available they won’t be signing with the Lakers.

  • If Scott is seeing the bigger picture he’s not in it. He sucks s a coach and if he is here when these free agents are available they won’t be signing with the Lakers.

  • As soon as I heard this news, I took the Lakers flags off of my car and threw them in the dumpster out back.

  • As soon as I heard this news, I took the Lakers flags off of my car and threw them in the dumpster out back.

  • That’s not my concern, I’m confident Black will put together a good season, it’s just injuries. As much as I want us to stay healthy, we haven’t been for the past 3 seasons, so if Hibbert or Black were to go down, that leaves big minutes on Sacre which I’d be crazy scared of.

    I’m ok with the Lakers not bringing in Upshaw if it was due to off the court issues, but if there were no red flags, then I’d really question not bringing him in

  • That’s not my concern, I’m confident Black will put together a good season, it’s just injuries. As much as I want us to stay healthy, we haven’t been for the past 3 seasons, so if Hibbert or Black were to go down, that leaves big minutes on Sacre which I’d be crazy scared of.

    I’m ok with the Lakers not bringing in Upshaw if it was due to off the court issues, but if there were no red flags, then I’d really question not bringing him in

  • I’m ok with the idea of the Lakers not bringing in Upshaw over Sacre, if they were worried of potential red flags, but if there weren’t I really dislike this move. Sure, Upshaw may not be NBA ready, but he has a lot of potential and seems better than Sacre now.

    For those who bring up “3rd Center” let’s not forget all the injuries we’ve suffered over the past 3 seasons. If either/both Hibbert or Black were to go down, that leaves the C spot in Sacre’s hands. I’d rather have Upshaw if that were the case, but I won’t complain. Also, I don’t get why the Lakers continue to bring Sacre when they could find a better one in free agency, such as a Jeremy Tyler.

  • I’m ok with the idea of the Lakers not bringing in Upshaw over Sacre, if they were worried of potential red flags, but if there weren’t I really dislike this move. Sure, Upshaw may not be NBA ready, but he has a lot of potential and seems better than Sacre now.

    For those who bring up “3rd Center” let’s not forget all the injuries we’ve suffered over the past 3 seasons. If either/both Hibbert or Black were to go down, that leaves the C spot in Sacre’s hands. I’d rather have Upshaw if that were the case, but I won’t complain. Also, I don’t get why the Lakers continue to bring Sacre when they could find a better one in free agency, such as a Jeremy Tyler.

  • No. I’ll support them when they start playing to win. This team still plays no defense. Why is Nick young on this team? Oh right cuz he can jack up three pointers and make a few once in a while. Problem is the guy he is guarding out scores him 80/90% of the time. And two backups? One being suckray who well sucks. At least with Upshaw the chance of him altering shots would be there. With sukray the dunks and layups will continue unabated.

  • No. I’ll support them when they start playing to win. This team still plays no defense. Why is Nick young on this team? Oh right cuz he can jack up three pointers and make a few once in a while. Problem is the guy he is guarding out scores him 80/90% of the time. And two backups? One being suckray who well sucks. At least with Upshaw the chance of him altering shots would be there. With sukray the dunks and layups will continue unabated.

  • Um dude I’m with you on the no defense playing slugs Scott is keeping but two titles in 2009/2010 back to back.Beat Orlando and Boston.

  • Um dude I’m with you on the no defense playing slugs Scott is keeping but two titles in 2009/2010 back to back.Beat Orlando and Boston.

  • I had a Lakers poster on my wall until tonight. I ripped it off and threw it away.

  • I had a Lakers poster on my wall until tonight. I ripped it off and threw it away.

  • How do you know? Did you spot him smoking crack out in the parking lot instead of in the layup line during drills?

  • How do you know? Did you spot him smoking crack out in the parking lot instead of in the layup line during drills?

  • You were bragging about our having grabbed Sacre at the 60th pick. I like Rob, but not as much as you, apparently.

  • You were bragging about our having grabbed Sacre at the 60th pick. I like Rob, but not as much as you, apparently.

  • Well the word is out, per Mike Bresnahan:

    “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.”

    Kid needing a second chance like Upshaw needed to show he was all in and willing to go above and beyond…

  • Well the word is out, per Mike Bresnahan:

    “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.”

    Kid needing a second chance like Upshaw needed to show he was all in and willing to go above and beyond…

  • Passing on a player during the draft is way different from passing on an undrafted player… surely you guys would know that

  • Passing on a player during the draft is way different from passing on an undrafted player… surely you guys would know that

  • It’s between Sacre, Holmes, MWP, and Kelly that I think will be cut.

  • It’s between Sacre, Holmes, MWP, and Kelly that I think will be cut.

  • If Hibbert goes down, the Laker’s would immediately get another center thru a trade or a F/A.

  • If Hibbert goes down, the Laker’s would immediately get another center thru a trade or a F/A.

  • Sacre is not getting cut
    Kelly is not getting cut
    Holmes is getting cut
    J. Brown is getting cut
    MWP is not getting cut
    Frazier’s toast
    Upshaw’s Toast

  • Sacre is not getting cut
    Kelly is not getting cut
    Holmes is getting cut
    J. Brown is getting cut
    MWP is not getting cut
    Frazier’s toast
    Upshaw’s Toast

  • I like you Dana well said and also having a great locker room guy is very underated it keeps the younger players pump up and encourage its clear that Sacre is a person easy to like and good to have around but once again i hope we only need to use him in practice lol.

  • I like you Dana well said and also having a great locker room guy is very underated it keeps the younger players pump up and encourage its clear that Sacre is a person easy to like and good to have around but once again i hope we only need to use him in practice lol.

  • Basically, what they’re saying in a polite way is that Upshaw doesn’t listen well or he doesn’t learn quick AKA “big time learning curve.”

  • Basically, what they’re saying in a polite way is that Upshaw doesn’t listen well or he doesn’t learn quick AKA “big time learning curve.”

  • Injuries forced Miami to look at him….At any rate…I’m bit going to cry over someone who has been given many opportunities… Like it or not it’s up to him to change the narrative…. He is another just like Whiteside who has to prove himself again.

  • Injuries forced Miami to look at him….At any rate…I’m bit going to cry over someone who has been given many opportunities… Like it or not it’s up to him to change the narrative…. He is another just like Whiteside who has to prove himself again.

  • all preseason Sacre only completed one play, a pick pass from Huertas and scored, then he proceeds to almost lose the game for us but for the grace of Kelly, in now 4 seasons with the Lakers, where is his improvement, Upshaw can score better than Sacre, Upshaw can defend better than Sacre, sure I agree Upshaw looked lost at times but this is his first chance, it’s not like Sacre was tearing things up on his first season, where is the FO and BS thinking, is Sacre going to get better, no because he has reached his ceiling, I hope Upshaw gets picked up and he turns into another sleeper that the Lakers gave away, again, I just don’t see the justification for this cut, what happens if one of the bigs get hurt, oh yeah, slow footed, no shot Sacre will save the day, Byron just amazes me at times because he pulled all the strings on this one !!!!!

  • all preseason Sacre only completed one play, a pick pass from Huertas and scored, then he proceeds to almost lose the game for us but for the grace of Kelly, in now 4 seasons with the Lakers, where is his improvement, Upshaw can score better than Sacre, Upshaw can defend better than Sacre, sure I agree Upshaw looked lost at times but this is his first chance, it’s not like Sacre was tearing things up on his first season, where is the FO and BS thinking, is Sacre going to get better, no because he has reached his ceiling, I hope Upshaw gets picked up and he turns into another sleeper that the Lakers gave away, again, I just don’t see the justification for this cut, what happens if one of the bigs get hurt, oh yeah, slow footed, no shot Sacre will save the day, Byron just amazes me at times because he pulled all the strings on this one !!!!!

  • Sacre is a good teamate.. And more ahead of the curve?

    Ive seen more contribution from upshaw in three games then sacre in the last three years! I don’t get it.

  • Sacre is a good teamate.. And more ahead of the curve?

    Ive seen more contribution from upshaw in three games then sacre in the last three years! I don’t get it.

  • Undrafted rookie with lottery pick potential who fell into our laps after the draft.. For Sacre!

  • Undrafted rookie with lottery pick potential who fell into our laps after the draft.. For Sacre!

  • Exactly the reason Upshaw would’ve been a better choice. 3rd string center won’t play much of a role which would’ve been perfect to let a guy sit back and develop for a year. Either way, if we’re forced to rely on either Sacre or Upshaw for big minutes we’re screwed. Might as well keep the guy with upside.

  • Exactly the reason Upshaw would’ve been a better choice. 3rd string center won’t play much of a role which would’ve been perfect to let a guy sit back and develop for a year. Either way, if we’re forced to rely on either Sacre or Upshaw for big minutes we’re screwed. Might as well keep the guy with upside.

  • This is a development year, don’t kid yourself about KD, the Lakers have missed that boat, they could have begun the development a lot earlier and be in a better position because of it, but with Randle’s injury and the pointless signings of Jeremy Lin and Carlos Boozer the Lakers pretty wasted an entire season and only managed to really develop one player, Jordan Clarkson. This Laker’s squad is going to be fun to watch, but it’s not going to win a lot of games and development SHOULD be the main priority So why cut a guy with genuine potential for a guy who has already realized his? The Lakers have likely already got 4 rookies certain to make the final roster and a further 4 more in only their second year. What difference would it have made to have another rookie to develop? Keeping a guy like MWP would be beneficial, because although he is a shell of the player that he once was, he can seriously help these young guys. Keeping Sacre doesn’t help anyone but Robert Sacre, he can’t mentor the young guys, he can’t be trusted on the floor.

  • This is a development year, don’t kid yourself about KD, the Lakers have missed that boat, they could have begun the development a lot earlier and be in a better position because of it, but with Randle’s injury and the pointless signings of Jeremy Lin and Carlos Boozer the Lakers pretty wasted an entire season and only managed to really develop one player, Jordan Clarkson. This Laker’s squad is going to be fun to watch, but it’s not going to win a lot of games and development SHOULD be the main priority So why cut a guy with genuine potential for a guy who has already realized his? The Lakers have likely already got 4 rookies certain to make the final roster and a further 4 more in only their second year. What difference would it have made to have another rookie to develop? Keeping a guy like MWP would be beneficial, because although he is a shell of the player that he once was, he can seriously help these young guys. Keeping Sacre doesn’t help anyone but Robert Sacre, he can’t mentor the young guys, he can’t be trusted on the floor.

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  • There is a reason basketball wise that Upshaw went undrafted. Just a couple of flashes of brilliance once or twice isn’t going to cut it. If Upshaw couldn’t even beat out a cardboard dummy like Sacre then you know that the coaches didn’t see enough to be impressed. Then there’s the other thing – the problematic “monkey business” perpetual personal baggage that got him kicked out of two college programmes. He perhaps has not shed this yet either. So this boi has way too much downside to make the “sweet 15.” If he’s the player anyone wants him to be then he’s going to have to show it in the D League.

  • There is a reason basketball wise that Upshaw went undrafted. Just a couple of flashes of brilliance once or twice isn’t going to cut it. If Upshaw couldn’t even beat out a cardboard dummy like Sacre then you know that the coaches didn’t see enough to be impressed. Then there’s the other thing – the problematic “monkey business” perpetual personal baggage that got him kicked out of two college programmes. He perhaps has not shed this yet either. So this boi has way too much downside to make the “sweet 15.” If he’s the player anyone wants him to be then he’s going to have to show it in the D League.

  • over a 3rd string center who is, at best, a long term project?

    I’m already over it…

  • over a 3rd string center with character questions who is, at best, a long term project?

    I’m already over it…

  • He also said “team camaraderie” played a role, which suggests Upshaw wasn’t making many friends in the locker room.

  • He also said “team camaraderie” played a role, which suggests Upshaw wasn’t making many friends in the locker room.

  • Upshaw couldn’t set a pick, didn’t rotate on defense, didn’t pass well and had only one game where he was active on the boards. Yes, he’s a good shot blocker, but he’s also a poor 1-on-1 defender.

    Dude is a year away from being a third stringer and may never be anything more than a contributing role player.

    That’s not confidence in Sacre, it’s a lack of confidence in Upshaw.

  • Upshaw couldn’t set a pick, didn’t rotate on defense, didn’t pass well and had only one game where he was active on the boards. Yes, he’s a good shot blocker, but he’s also a poor 1-on-1 defender.

    Dude is a year away from being a third stringer and may never be anything more than a contributing role player.

    That’s not confidence in Sacre, it’s a lack of confidence in Upshaw.

  • Wow….fools are given a golden ticket and leave in their pants pocket on laundry day.

  • Wow….fools are given a golden ticket and leave it in their pants pocket on laundry day.

  • is larry sanders a possibility? if his head is straight he provides the defensive presence/shot blocking lacking with the second unit. Imo a better option than Black.

  • is larry sanders a possibility? if his head is straight he provides the defensive presence/shot blocking lacking with the second unit. Imo a better option than Black.

  • Yeah I just hope for Upshaw’s sake he doesn’t spiral down the drain over this and resort to his past off court behavior. That would truly be a shame.
    I was pulling for him cuz you like to hear of people overcoming their own demons and making something out of themselves when there is obviously some God-given ability.

  • Yeah I just hope for Upshaw’s sake he doesn’t spiral down the drain over this and resort to his past off court behavior. That would truly be a shame.
    I was pulling for him cuz you like to hear of people overcoming their own demons and making something out of themselves when there is obviously some God-given ability.

  • Can we just cut Sacre too? Him and Upshaw aren’t needed. Time to keep searching. Sacre has no business on a NBA roster and Upshaw needs a lot of time. I don’t care about keeping Upshaw I just wish Sacre left with him.

  • Can we just cut Sacre too? Him and Upshaw aren’t needed. Time to keep searching. Sacre has no business on a NBA roster and Upshaw needs a lot of time. I don’t care about keeping Upshaw I just wish Sacre left with him.

  • Mike Bresnahan:

    “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.”

  • Mike Bresnahan:

    “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.”

  • We want to go small with the second unit. I think Black and Bass will work just fine. Sacre is the 15th guy on the bench, he is fine. Good locker room guy, extremely hard worker in the gym, he will have contributions to this team regardless of how many of them are on the actual floor.

  • We want to go small with the second unit. I think Black and Bass will work just fine. Sacre is the 15th guy on the bench, he is fine. Good locker room guy, extremely hard worker in the gym, he will have contributions to this team regardless of how many of them are on the actual floor.

  • They want to run with the second unit. Sanders does not fit that mold at all. Black does.

  • They want to run with the second unit. Sanders does not fit that mold at all. Black does.

  • OK, so he doesn’t have Kobe’s drive. He didn’t do over time, not exactly grounds to say he wasn’t deserving of a roster spot over Sacre. With or without the extra work he still has better long term outlook then Sacre.

  • OK, so he doesn’t have Kobe’s drive. He didn’t do over time, not exactly grounds to say he wasn’t deserving of a roster spot over Sacre. With or without the extra work he still has better long term outlook then Sacre.

  • Sacre is one of the worst NBA players I’ve seen. He has zero upside. Does he make a play once in a while or make a basket once a game yes. But he is a complete moron. and has no upside what so ever. he is not getting better and never will. Every single one of us that watches feels the same way. We let better plays go like Ed Davis, and I will be pissed if he makes the team. Russel sucks too. Just saying he is maybe the third best PG on the team and the 5th best 2 guard. That is a fact. I like most everything else we have done and we do have a better season ahead. Upshaw simply looked lost at times, made bad decisions on shots and did not dominate the boards at all. He is a major project.

  • Sacre is one of the worst NBA players I’ve seen. He has zero upside. Does he make a play once in a while or make a basket once a game yes. But he is a complete moron. and has no upside what so ever. he is not getting better and never will. Every single one of us that watches feels the same way. We let better plays go like Ed Davis, and I will be pissed if he makes the team. Russel sucks too. Just saying he is maybe the third best PG on the team and the 5th best 2 guard. That is a fact. I like most everything else we have done and we do have a better season ahead. Upshaw simply looked lost at times, made bad decisions on shots and did not dominate the boards at all. He is a major project.

  • Another poster brought up the good point that Sacre’s expiring contract may still hold value at the trade deadline…same with Kelly.

    Throw in Brandon Bass and you have $5.5m in expiring money to offer teams. Not much, but enough to bring in a decent reserve.

  • Another poster brought up the good point that Sacre’s expiring contract may still hold value at the trade deadline…same with Kelly.

    Throw in Brandon Bass and you have $5.5m in expiring money to offer teams. If the Lakers are below the cap, they can take back more than they send out, meaning they could absorb $7 or $8m in contracts — that’s a decent role player (maybe a backup C?)

    They could really go big with Hibbert’s contract, but, if he plays well enough, I think they’ll try to retain him.

  • First of all that is a stupid question. Why they won or lost in preseason has nothing to do with Sacre. They are playing to see who will make the team, they are playing to get used to playing together. This is practice. these games don’t count so who cares if they won.

  • First of all that is a stupid question. Why they won or lost in preseason has nothing to do with Sacre. They are playing to see who will make the team, they are playing to get used to playing together. This is practice. these games don’t count so who cares if they won.

  • Was Sacre our legitimate pick or did we buy his rights like we did with Clarkson? I forget.

    Do you think the staff just questioned Upshaw’s drive or character? Maybe he was just too “strange” for the Lakers. I know I would be…:-)

  • Was Sacre our legitimate pick or did we buy his rights like we did with Clarkson? I forget.

    Do you think the staff just questioned Upshaw’s drive or character? Maybe he was just too “strange” for the Lakers. I know I would be…:-)

  • Youre the dum idiot who doesnt see sacre is lost even on the bench, and so is russell, he looks overwhelmed. Mance will be good but anthony briwn he is bo bo.

  • Youre the dum idiot who doesnt see sacre is lost even on the bench, and so is russell, he looks overwhelmed. Mance will be good but anthony briwn he is bo bo.

  • Right. And I foresee Huertas starting for us at the 1 for a while and letting Russell run the subs. Move Clarkson back to the 2 and Kobe back to the 3 to start. Randle probably at the 4, depending on the matchup.

  • Right. And I foresee Huertas starting for us at the 1 for a while and letting Russell run the subs. Move Clarkson back to the 2 and Kobe back to the 3 to start. Randle probably at the 4, depending on the matchup.

  • Pure insanity. Passing on Whiteside….I get it. But there is an old saying “fool me once….” the Lakers should be ashamed of themselves…..whoever made that decision….you better have DANG good reasons for doing it…..and don’t give me “well Sacre was better in the locker room”…..you think Kobe needs a pep talk…..an atta boy? In two years….3 MAX Kobe will be gone…..and its a GAMBLE who will move forward….Russell? Randle? Clarkson? and we COULD have added Upshaw to that list. Every person in the NBA has a potential level…..and we could have had 4 that had the POTENTIAL to be great. But instead we chose a Cheerleader? Don’t get me wrong….I love Sacre….would have even went as far as to keep him….but over UPSHAW….no way….not even a chance. Something is up…..and I’m guessing its Byron keeping a pet vs a possible star…..shows very poor decision making skills. Now if it turns out the guy was out partying and had no motivation to improve….then sure……waive him….and if it turns out that is the case I will take back my comment. But I just get the feeling that Upshaw was not given a chance…..and someone else will give him that chance……trust me…….this is not going to look good for the Lakers….and I will always be one of their biggest fans…..but this is a TERRIBLE decision….whoever made it should be ran out on a rail……

  • Pure insanity. Passing on Whiteside….I get it. But there is an old saying “fool me once….” the Lakers should be ashamed of themselves…..whoever made that decision….you better have DANG good reasons for doing it…..and don’t give me “well Sacre was better in the locker room”…..you think Kobe needs a pep talk…..an atta boy? In two years….3 MAX Kobe will be gone…..and its a GAMBLE who will move forward….Russell? Randle? Clarkson? and we COULD have added Upshaw to that list. Every person in the NBA has a potential level…..and we could have had 4 that had the POTENTIAL to be great. But instead we chose a Cheerleader? Don’t get me wrong….I love Sacre….would have even went as far as to keep him….but over UPSHAW….no way….not even a chance. Something is up…..and I’m guessing its Byron keeping a pet vs a possible star…..shows very poor decision making skills. Now if it turns out the guy was out partying and had no motivation to improve….then sure……waive him….and if it turns out that is the case I will take back my comment. But I just get the feeling that Upshaw was not given a chance…..and someone else will give him that chance……trust me…….this is not going to look good for the Lakers….and I will always be one of their biggest fans…..but this is a TERRIBLE decision….whoever made it should be ran out on a rail……

  • Exactly, these jokers are morons. You don’t let a talented young big man that can be your star center for the next decade go because he needs to get more experience. Seems he has the same experience as Russell and he is a point guard that has to learn much more. You could have easily got rid of Scarce. No offense to the guy, but he is easily replacable. Upshaw showed that he is serious and ready to put in the work by losing 25 pounds to help his game to get ready for camp. Yes he has a troubled past, but from what I have been seeing is a young man maturing and realizing he has a once in a lifetime shot to use his talents to achieve what most basketball players dreaming of one day playing in the NBA. I seriously doubt he will make it through waivers, too much talent and there must be a team that is bad that figures it can gamble on a guy who would’ve been a lottery pick if not for his troubles. And as far as learning, Roy Hibbert is a great player for him to learn to really get the most out of his talents on the defensive end.

  • That’s your opinion on who deserved what. Coaches decide who they see fit based on what their criteria of what they want out of a player. BTW, there is more than just that as to the reason they let Upshaw go. Hopefully he lands with the Defenders. Obviously the kid is not ready for the NBA.

  • Exactly, these jokers are morons. You don’t let a talented young big man that can be your star center for the next decade go because he needs to get more experience. Seems he has the same experience as Russell and he is a point guard that has to learn much more. You could have easily got rid of Scarce. No offense to the guy, but he is easily replacable. Upshaw showed that he is serious and ready to put in the work by losing 25 pounds to help his game to get ready for camp. Yes he has a troubled past, but from what I have been seeing is a young man maturing and realizing he has a once in a lifetime shot to use his talents to achieve what most basketball players dreaming of one day playing in the NBA. I seriously doubt he will make it through waivers, too much talent and there must be a team that is bad that figures it can gamble on a guy who would’ve been a lottery pick if not for his troubles. And as far as learning, Roy Hibbert is a great player for him to learn to really get the most out of his talents on the defensive end.

  • That’s your opinion on who deserved what. Coaches decide who they see fit based on what their criteria of what they want out of a player. BTW, there is more than just that as to the reason they let Upshaw go. Hopefully he lands with the Defenders. Obviously the kid is not ready for the NBA. Again, not every prospect with upside will become a Whiteside.

  • yes but wouldn’t it be better to have your third center a guy who can be a star center?

  • yes but wouldn’t it be better to have your third center a guy who can be a star center?

  • Stop it. Even Laker haters watch more Laker games and pay more attention to them than their own team.

  • Stop it. Even Laker haters watch more Laker games and pay more attention to them than their own teams.

  • Crazy decision. Right now, we know that Sacre is a horrible player. Upshaw is worth the gamble because he has tremendous upside. This is Whiteside all over again. We have a veteran center right now in Hibbert.. why not roll the dice and see if Upshaw develops into a quality player? It’s not as if with this Lakers team that we have much to lose..we’re essentially betting on the future anyway.

  • Crazy decision. Right now, we know that Sacre is a horrible player. Upshaw is worth the gamble because he has tremendous upside. This is Whiteside all over again. We have a veteran center right now in Hibbert.. why not roll the dice and see if Upshaw develops into a quality player? It’s not as if with this Lakers team that we have much to lose..we’re essentially betting on the future anyway.

  • It is certainly a sign of the times. The last name is still Buss. But Jimmy is no Jerry, and we have years of desolation to endure before contending again.

  • It is certainly a sign of the times. The last name is still Buss. But Jimmy is no Jerry, and we have years of desolation to endure before contending again.

  • She has given Jimmy 1 more year to “contend”. She committed that if they don’t win the first round playoff series in 2016-17 league year, he will be “let go”. I doubt that will happen though.

  • She has given Jimmy 1 more year to “contend”. She committed that if they don’t win the first round playoff series in 2016-17 league year, he will be “let go”. I doubt that will happen though.

  • So invaluable in fact that they had their worst record ever last year. You just can’t buy that kind of chemistry.

  • True, especially with so many teams having to make their final cuts before the season starts.

  • So invaluable in fact that they had their worst record ever last year. You just can’t buy that kind of chemistry.

  • True, especially with so many teams having to make their final cuts before the season starts.

  • Of all those reasons, the $1.7M is the one that will keep him on the team. He is a proven scrub. This is the new Lakers, run (ruined?) by Jimmy Buss

  • Of all those reasons, the $1.7M is the one that will keep him on the team. He is a proven scrub. This is the new Lakers, run (ruined?) by Jimmy Buss

  • They have made a big mistake, I dont think Upshaw will clear wavers! some other team will see his potential! the guy can be like a Dikembe Moutombo but with a better offensive game! this sucks! Sacre is a good guy but he’s not getting better and has Kwame Brown Hands!

  • Last year they had an awful roster and Byron managed to make them play with effort every game.

  • All these drama queens making a big deal about upshaw, talking about his upside lol.

  • They have made a big mistake, I dont think Upshaw will clear wavers! some other team will see his potential! the guy can be like a Dikembe Moutombo but with a better offensive game! this sucks! Sacre is a good guy but he’s not getting better and has Kwame Brown Hands!

  • Last year they had an awful roster and Byron managed to make them play with effort every game.

  • All these drama queens making a big deal about upshaw, talking about his upside lol.

  • I see your point but a million dollar expiring contract is pretty useless to another team. Teams like way more money than that to get off the books.

  • I see your point but a million dollar expiring contract is pretty useless to another team. Teams like way more money than that to get off the books.

  • Whiteside’s an idiot who got himself on Shaqtin a Fool for brainlessly walking out of bounds at the most critical time of a game.

  • Whiteside’s an idiot who got himself on Shaqtin-a-Fool for brainlessly walking out of bounds with the ball in the final minutes of a game they could’ve won.

  • Yea those qualities you just named are great if Sacre played on the Spurs because they don’t lack talent. We need TALENT not a good locker room guy and a hard worker in practice who waves a towel. And please don’t get me wrong im not upset about cutting Upshaw but more of a why do we continue to keep Sacre. He brings ZERO contribution to a rebuilding team.

  • Yea those qualities you just named are great if Sacre played on the Spurs because they don’t lack talent. We need TALENT not a good locker room guy and a hard worker in practice who waves a towel. And please don’t get me wrong im not upset about cutting Upshaw but more of a why do we continue to keep Sacre. He brings ZERO contribution to a rebuilding team.

  • You people saying that we are upset waiving Upshaw don’t get it. We aren’t( at least myself) upset about waiving Upshaw. It’s about why are you keeping a guy who brings NOTHING to your team? If we were a 55-60 win team the last 3 years who are headed to the playoffs then fine keep Sacre. But we are in a talent hunt and this guy is just taking up a roster spot. Great locker room guys are fine and dandy on a 55 win team. Not so much on a 20 win team. Being a hard worker and great locker room guy wont improve our W column.

  • You people saying that we are upset waiving Upshaw don’t get it. We aren’t( at least myself) upset about waiving Upshaw. It’s about why are you keeping a guy who brings NOTHING to your team? If we were a 55-60 win team the last 3 years who are headed to the playoffs then fine keep Sacre. But we are in a talent hunt and this guy is just taking up a roster spot. Great locker room guys are fine and dandy on a 55 win team. Not so much on a 20 win team. Being a hard worker and great locker room guy wont improve our W column.

  • I see people keep bringing up the fact 29 other teams passed on Upshaw, but how many of those teams are either have great centers or in “win now” mode and can’t really afford to invest in long term potential. Really, maybe only 2 or 3 teams are in a position where they desperately need a Center and are in rebuilding mode. Maybe the Celtics and Knicks, but definitely the Lakers. So you can’t say Upshaw sucks because 29 teams passed him up, when most teams are not looking for a center with potential for the future, especially one with a troubled past. The Lakers were in perfect position to have him and build for the future, because realistically they aren’t winning a championship right now, so why does it matter who’s better right now? We aren’t going to win a championship right now, so that argument is irrelevant. In 5 years Robert Sacre will be 31 and probably out of the league. Upshaw will be 25 with a possible core of Clarkson, Randle and Russell. If they all reach their potential they would be competing for a championship. Now, in 5 years we have to hope we can find an elite center who can protect the rim, as even Roy Hibbert will be older. Does the FO think they can sign a top tier free agent? Because they haven’t been able to do so in a while. Bad choice. They should have gave Upshaw a chance. I know if he does become a Whiteside, I will be highly upset. If they did keep him and he didn’t work out, I’d still be happy we took the risk and got rid of Sacre. He sucks.

  • I see people keep bringing up the fact 29 other teams passed on Upshaw, but how many of those teams are either have great centers or in “win now” mode and can’t really afford to invest in long term potential. Really, maybe only 2 or 3 teams are in a position where they desperately need a Center and are in rebuilding mode. Maybe the Celtics and Knicks, but definitely the Lakers. So you can’t say Upshaw sucks because 29 teams passed him up, when most teams are not looking for a center with potential for the future, especially one with a troubled past. The Lakers were in perfect position to have him and build for the future, because realistically they aren’t winning a championship right now, so why does it matter who’s better right now? We aren’t going to win a championship right now, so that argument is irrelevant. In 5 years Robert Sacre will be 31 and probably out of the league. Upshaw will be 25 with a possible core of Clarkson, Randle and Russell. If they all reach their potential they would be competing for a championship. Now, in 5 years we have to hope we can find an elite center who can protect the rim, as even Roy Hibbert will be older. Does the FO think they can sign a top tier free agent? Because they haven’t been able to do so in a while. Bad choice. They should have gave Upshaw a chance. I know if he does become a Whiteside, I will be highly upset. If they did keep him and he didn’t work out, I’d still be happy we took the risk and got rid of Sacre. He sucks.

  • Part of the problem is that Upshaw brings nothing to the team right now, other than potential. Let’s be honest — he needs a lot of work just to be a backup and he LA Times suggested he wasn’t coming in early or staying late to put in that extra work. And then there’s the fact that the Lakers are willing to risk losing him to waiver or as a d-league FA.

    In other words, I think this decision says a lot more about Upshaw than it does about Sacre.

  • Part of the problem is that Upshaw brings nothing to the team right now, other than potential. Let’s be honest — he needs a lot of work just to be a backup and he LA Times suggested he wasn’t coming in early or staying late to put in that extra work. And then there’s the fact that the Lakers are willing to risk losing him to waiver or as a d-league FA.

    In other words, I think this decision says a lot more about Upshaw than it does about Sacre.

  • I agree with you. But again it’s nothing about cutting Upshaw. It’s the WHY do we keep Sacre lol?

  • I agree with you. But again it’s nothing about cutting Upshaw. It’s the WHY do we keep Sacre lol? I am perfectly fine cutting both of them and looking elsewhere.

  • And let’s not also forget there are other options — Hibbert is only 28 years old….if he plays well the Lakers will probably lock him up for 3-4 more years. Failing that, they could try offering a “poison” contract to Drummond or Mozgov (both RFA’s in 2016).

    Even Whiteside is still unsigned and a UFA next season.

    And of course, there’s always the draft — they still have a #2 and there are “projects” every year.

  • And let’s not also forget there are other options — Hibbert is only 28 years old….if he plays well the Lakers will probably lock him up for 3-4 more years. Failing that, they could try offering a “poison” contract to Drummond or even Mozgov (both RFA’s in 2016) and daring their teams to match.

    Even Whiteside is still unsigned and a UFA next season.

    And of course, there’s always the draft — they still have a #2 and there are “projects” every year.

  • Ha! Ha! I guess I’m rambling on about nothing!

    Sacre is just the familiar commodity…advantage to the incumbent.

  • Ha! Ha! I guess I’m rambling on about nothing!

    Sacre is just the familiar commodity…advantage to the incumbent.

  • Ha I feel you. We have plenty of time to find another solid big. I just want W’s no matter who’s on the team bro lol.

  • Ha I feel you. We have plenty of time to find another solid big. I just want W’s no matter who’s on the team bro lol.

  • I agree. We have plenty of time to find another big. Best case scenario is he clears waivers and signs with the DFenders. We have enough bigs to make it through the first half of the season.

  • I agree. We have plenty of time to find another big. Best case scenario is he clears waivers and signs with the DFenders. We have enough bigs to make it through the first half of the season.

  • Right now Black is the best backup we have. He’s way stronger than Upshaw and can set a brick screen.

  • Right now Black is the best backup we have. He’s way stronger than Upshaw and can set a brick screen.

  • Lakers need to make a trade or something and get a legit backup Center immediately. They can’t afford to have any weak links in the 10-man rotation.

  • Lakers need to make a trade or something and get a legit backup Center immediately. They can’t afford to have any weak links in the 10-man rotation.

  • and how do you plan on getting upshaw’s reflexes back? how do you fix his slow reactions? sorry bro but once mushrooms mess you up its never the same again, great move by the front office

  • and how do you plan on getting upshaw’s reflexes back? how do you fix his slow reactions? sorry bro but once mushrooms mess you up its never the same again, great move by the front office

  • sacre sucks but he can suck all game and he’s a back up so who cares, upshaw can’t even suck for a quarter

  • sacre sucks but he can suck all game and he’s a back up so who cares, upshaw can’t even suck for a quarter

  • I disagree. Building a strong core, such as SA is just as much about chemistry as it is about talent. The hardest part in building a team is not only developing talent but keeping it. San Antonio held onto their core by having good guys in their locker room. If you weren’t a good guy, you were gone.

  • I disagree. Building a strong core, such as SA is just as much about chemistry as it is about talent. The hardest part in building a team is not only developing talent but keeping it. San Antonio held onto their core by having good guys in their locker room. If you weren’t a good guy, you were gone.

  • I KNOW that Sacre sucks. We might as well put a 7-foot traffic cone on the court. We don’t know what Upshaw’s ceiling is, but Sacre realized his a long time ago.

  • I KNOW that Sacre sucks. We might as well put a 7-foot traffic cone on the court. We don’t know what Upshaw’s ceiling is, but Sacre realized his a long time ago.

  • Nobody was expecting him to be all that good this soon. He was a project with pretty good size length and shot blocking ability. He’s not being given the chance that’s been given to Sacre to develop. All he needs is time on the court. D-league or whatever

  • Nobody was expecting him to be all that good this soon. He was a project with pretty good size length and shot blocking ability. He’s not being given the chance that’s been given to Sacre to develop. All he needs is time on the court. D-league or whatever

  • He wasn’t putting in the time. Reports are that he was the only player, NOT putting in the extra time. You said “”legit backup Center immediately”” He is most definitely not that guy. Not even close.

  • He wasn’t putting in the time. Reports are that he was the only player, NOT putting in the extra time. You said “”legit backup Center immediately”” He is most definitely not that guy. Not even close.

  • That’s bs. I guess he lost 20-25 pounds that fast by taking a huge dump, right? Please.

  • Or maybe he was just really fat. You can lose 25 pounds easily by eating nothing but Protein. It isn’t hard work.

  • That’s bs. I guess he lost 20-25 pounds that fast by taking a huge dump, right? Please.

  • Or maybe he was just really fat. You can lose 25 pounds easily by eating nothing but Protein. It isn’t hard work.

  • so what? is he not going to be a key cog in Miami’s playoff run. Do you think Miami is a weaker team with Whiteside? All NBA analysts will say no. The Heat will laugh at that notion. He’s a huge part of their new big 4.

    Also, if costing 1 game is an unforgivable sin, what does it say about Sacre who did it 3 straight games.

  • so what? is he not going to be a key cog in Miami’s playoff run. Do you think Miami is a weaker team with Whiteside? All NBA analysts will say no. The Heat will laugh at that notion. He’s a huge part of their new big 4.

    Also, if costing 1 game is an unforgivable sin, what does it say about Sacre who did it 3 straight games.

  • Diaw is a healthy fat. Guy moves so well for his size. Upshaw had no reflexes and looked slow.

  • It is. I’m doing it right now and you have to cross off your food list so many things… And your body don’t take it well the first weeks, I don’t wan’t to imagine that while going to the gym everyday.

  • Diaw is a healthy fat. Guy moves so well for his size. Upshaw had no reflexes and looked slow.

  • It is. I’m doing it right now and you have to cross off so many things from your food list… And your body don’t take it well the first weeks, I don’t wan’t to imagine that while going to the gym everyday.

  • Well I mean it is hard if you don’t like Bacon, Eggs and Spinach but I am saying it isn’t that difficult to lose 25 pounds quickly. Especially if you are working out while doing that diet. Upshaw was still very out of shape. Not sure how a guy fighting for a roster spot comes in being out of shape. Unless he isn’t committed.

  • Well I mean it is hard if you don’t like Bacon, Eggs and Spinach but I am saying it isn’t that difficult to lose 25 pounds quickly. Especially if you are working out while doing that diet. Upshaw was still very out of shape. Not sure how a guy fighting for a roster spot comes in being out of shape. Unless he isn’t committed.

  • Usually i agree with u but saying huertas is better than chris paul, is way overboard. Paul is the best pure point guard in the league

  • Usually i agree with u but saying huertas is better than chris paul, is way overboard. Paul is the best pure point guard in the league

  • You’re talking about the 6 months prior, once he got his summer invite I do believe he was fully committed to making the final roster. Which is enough for me to respect his dedication to the team. Now it didn’t work out, sadly, but I’m sure he can continue to stay focused and learn his game in the meantime. If not the D-League there’s this Amerileague thingy starting in LV. A salary is as good a motivation as any.

  • You’re talking about the 6 months prior, once he got his summer invite I do believe he was fully committed to making the final roster. Which is enough for me to respect his dedication to the team. Now it didn’t work out, sadly, but I’m sure he can continue to stay focused and learn his game in the meantime. If not the D-League there’s this Amerileague thingy starting in LV. A salary is as good a motivation as any.

  • You triping saying that a 19 year old rookie with skills suck. He be a great player one day

  • You triping saying that a 19 year old rookie with skills suck. He be a great player one day

  • I agree with you. But we all agree SACRE HAS NO TALENT so he is just wasted space. Their core is talented. We already have some talent that are good locker room guys. Sacre has no point on the team that’s all im saying. You know what helps team chemistry and having good locker room guys?? Wins! He doesn’t help in that department.

  • I agree with you. But we all agree SACRE HAS NO TALENT so he is just wasted space. Their core is talented. We already have some talent that are good locker room guys. Sacre has no point on the team that’s all im saying. You know what helps team chemistry and having good locker room guys?? Wins! He doesn’t help in that department.

  • Who said keeping sacre was a great move? I said not wasting a roster spot on upshaw was a great move learn how to comprehend.

  • Who said keeping sacre was a great move? I said not wasting a roster spot on upshaw was a great move learn how to comprehend.

  • The reports are that he was the only guy not putting in the extra work. Not sure how true they are, but it was from sources like Pincus who I usually trust.