Dwyane Wade: ‘There Will Never Be Another Kobe Bryant’

Dwyane Wade is one of the few active players in the NBA today with three NBA titles to his credit. Wade has put himself in a different category amongst his peers, but still puts five-time NBA champion Kobe Bryant on a different level entirely.

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On Monday, Wade talked about Bryant’s legacy with the two veterans shooting guards set to go head-to-head on Tuesday night at American Airlines Arena. Wade believes Bryant is unique and the greatest player in his era. The face of the Heat franchise is looking forward to facing Kobe for perhaps the last time in South Beach, via Michael Wallace of ESPN:

I do feel — and I’ve said this before the last couple of years with LeBron [James], when he became the best player in our game — that Kobe Bryant is the greatest player of our era,” Wade said. “The Kobe Bryants aren’t around no more. There are good young players, but there will never be another Kobe. So every opportunity you get to [face him], you want to seize that moment.”

Wade also talked about Bryant’s recent struggles on the basketball floor. Despite Kobe’s recent struggles, Wade only sees the player that dominated the competition the two decades, via Wallace:

You hear about the guy being down, struggling with his shot and going through all of those other things,” Wade said Monday. “But what I’ll always see is the guy who has dominated this game at his position for a long time, who performed at a high level for 20 years.”

Bryant and the Lakers will head into Tuesday’s matchup with the Heat looking for their second win of the season. Los Angeles has dropped five of their last six games with their only win coming against the winless Brooklyn Nets last Friday.

Miami, however, will attempt to keep up with the Southeast division-leading Atlanta Hawks (7-2) with a win over the Lakers. The Heat (4-3) are currently in second place in their division with the Hawks sporting a two-game lead over Wade and company.

Nice interview. I hope some fans here can respect Kobe for what he has done. He’s top 5 in history.

  • Nice interview. I hope some fans here can respect Kobe for what he has done. He’s top 5 in history.

  • Kobe is always respected for what he’s done, but you get no bonus points for career accomplishments in the NBA. It’s what you can do now, and that’s what helps make the competition in the NBA so fierce.

    Criticizing Kobe for his play now is totally appropriate. He’s got the top salary in the entire NBA after all. Seems logical that he should be earning it.

  • Kobe is always respected for what he’s done, but you get no bonus points for career accomplishments in the NBA. It’s what you can do now, and that’s what helps make the competition in the NBA so fierce.

    Criticizing Kobe for his play now is totally appropriate. He’s got the top salary in the entire NBA after all. Seems logical that he should be earning it.

  • True Wade. Sadly there are too many Laker/Kobe fans that are still not convinced of his greatness it seems. They need him to still be the star on a developing team, still take all the shots, go to the Olympics, shoot the three, handle the ball, avg. 20+ ppg, etc. They can’t look at his past and be amazed enough. They feel he still has something to prove. Sorry guys he has nothing to prove.

  • True Wade. Sadly there are too many Laker/Kobe fans that are still not convinced of his greatness it seems. They need him to still be the star on a developing team, still take all the shots, go to the Olympics, shoot the three, handle the ball, avg. 20+ ppg, etc. They can’t look at his past and be amazed enough. They feel he still has something to prove. Sorry guys he has nothing to prove.

  • Is Kobe retiring, like now??? Come on, the season is still early. Save it till the end of the season.

  • Tell that to Kobe. He’s the only one who thinks he has something to prove and is actively trying to prove it. Most people complain because they want him to stop trying to prove it. We’d be overjoyed if he’d just take a backseat and help the young core develop. His legacy is set in stone at this point.

  • Is Kobe retiring, like now??? Come on, the season is still early. Save it till the end of the season.

  • Tell that to Kobe. He’s the only one who thinks he has something to prove and is actively trying to prove it. Most people complain because they want him to stop trying to prove it. We’d be overjoyed if he’d just take a backseat and help the young core develop. His legacy is set in stone at this point.

  • “Kobe is always respected for what he’s done”, that’s not even close to being true. How can you type that when there are many that give the 5 championships to Shaq and Gasol…not Kobe? Is Kobe really respected for what he has done?

    I wish people would just be upfront and admit that their negative opinions of him are more the result of the attitude and actions he has displayed over the years and less about his basketball game. They don’t like him because he never gave them a good reason to in the first place. Now that he is the player he has become, it is open season on him.

  • “Kobe is always respected for what he’s done”, that’s not even close to being true. How can you type that when there are many that give the 5 championships to Shaq and Gasol…not Kobe? Is Kobe really respected for what he has done?

    I wish people would just be upfront and admit that their negative opinions of him are more the result of the attitude and actions he has displayed over the years and less about his basketball game. They don’t like him because he never gave them a good reason to in the first place. Now that he is the player he has become, it is open season on him.

  • Well hang on to your hats tonight , with WADE saying all those nice things about KOBE, KOBE WILL BE PUTTING UP 30/35 SHOTS TO GET HIS 12/15 PTS, AND THINK NOTHING ABOUT IT. And they will give him the interview and tell him how great his game was he MEDIA what a JOKE.

  • How about his last 6 games? Don’t tell me what he has done look at what he is doing, are we talking about the same guy KOBE.

  • Well hang on to your hats tonight , with WADE saying all those nice things about KOBE, KOBE WILL BE PUTTING UP 30/35 SHOTS TO GET HIS 12/15 PTS, AND THINK NOTHING ABOUT IT. And they will give him the interview and tell him how great his game was he MEDIA what a JOKE.

  • How about his last 6 games? Don’t tell me what he has done look at what he is doing, are we talking about the same guy KOBE.

  • First, anybody that expected Kobe to take a backseat this season has only themselves to blame. It is ridiculous to think that a player that has a career track record of NEVER taking a backseat would magically do it now. We never had the opportunity to see Magic Johnson get old while playing. I would tend to believe that he would have never taken a backseat either. It was much easier for Kareem and has been easier for Tim Duncan because they already have an understanding that the basketball has to be passed to them in order to do something with it. They are accustomed to not having the ball at times. But you are talking about a guy that has had the ball in his hands since high school.

  • First, anybody that expected Kobe to take a backseat this season has only themselves to blame. It is ridiculous to think that a player that has a career track record of NEVER taking a backseat would magically do it now. We never had the opportunity to see Magic Johnson get old while playing. I would tend to believe that he would have never taken a backseat either. It was much easier for Kareem and has been easier for Tim Duncan because they already have an understanding that the basketball has to be passed to them in order to do something with it. They are accustomed to not having the ball at times. But you are talking about a guy that has had the ball in his hands since high school.

  • Regardless. Where I come from you show respect in a much different way. Besides it is funny because people sound like he is old. He is basketball old, but in life he is a young guy. The league has shifted in that youth is the new norm.

  • Regardless. Where I come from you show respect in a much different way. Besides it is funny because people sound like he is old. He is basketball old, but in life he is a young guy. The league has shifted in that youth is the new norm.

  • Bad and sad. But for love Kobe i will give him a year to play freely and get his final season like he wants. I love the Lakers, and i respect our legends.
    We will have a life to develop after he goes

  • Actually. It would be more likely that he passes more with what Wade said. Wade didn’t challenge him to be the man, he said he always will be the man. That’s a much different statement.

  • Kobe makes $25M, the team makes $300M, and $120M just by Kobe being on the team. He’s helped build their brand into a multi billion dollar enterprise. And from a business sense, he’s being underpaid for his contributions (both past and current).

    Why does his salary affect your decision? It’s not your team.

    It’s not affecting the team as there aren’t a ton of free agent options,
    So you are equating a decision made by the people who run the team and blaming Kobe….Maybe the front office chose to pay Kobe deliberately looking to tank or hold a place while they clean their financial house?

    Why are you hating the player because the front office chose to give him a check? Would you turn down $50M?

    If you don’t like it, follow the Clippers.

  • Bad and sad. But for love Kobe i will give him a year to play freely and get his final season like he wants. I love the Lakers, and i respect our legends.
    We will have a life to develop after he goes

  • Actually. It would be more likely that he passes more with what Wade said. Wade didn’t challenge him to be the man, he said he always will be the man. That’s a much different statement.

  • Kobe makes $25M, the team makes $300M, and $120M just by Kobe being on the team. He’s helped build their brand into a multi billion dollar enterprise. And from a business sense, he’s being underpaid for his contributions (both past and current).

    Why does his salary affect your decision? It’s not your team.

    It’s not affecting the team as there aren’t a ton of free agent options,
    So you are equating a decision made by the people who run the team and blaming Kobe….Maybe the front office chose to pay Kobe deliberately looking to tank or hold a place while they clean their financial house?

    Why are you hating the player because the front office chose to give him a check? Would you turn down $50M?

    If you don’t like it, follow the Clippers.

  • I think a lot of people wanted him to evolve his role, since we know how versatile/skilled kobe is. Did I expect him to, no. Do I think he should, yes. Would it be better for the team/future, probably. Would I rather see a stat sheet of 15, 5, 5 shooting 40% than seeing his air balls on sportscenter, yes.

  • Who cares about his last 6 games?
    Only Al.

    The rest of us are just happy to watch him play one last time.

    And since I know you will respond,
    Tell us who the best players on the team are as of today.
    Kobe’s still #1…. and without him the team would be worse.

    Please tell us how the team is better with Kelly or ABrown at SF….

  • I think a lot of people wanted him to evolve his role, since we know how versatile/skilled kobe is. Did I expect him to, no. Do I think he should, yes. Would it be better for the team/future, probably. Would I rather see a stat sheet of 15, 5, 5 shooting 40% than seeing his air balls on sportscenter, yes.

  • Who cares about his last 6 games?
    Only Al.

    The rest of us are just happy to watch him play one last time.

    And since I know you will respond,
    Tell us who the best players on the team are as of today.
    Kobe’s still #1…. and without him the team would be worse.

    Please tell us how the team is better with Kelly or ABrown at SF….

  • If we had a coach like Duncan it would be a different world for the LAKERS , there would not be any of the BULL CRAP going on, we have not had a real coach since PHIL ], AD THE LAKERS HAD A CHANCE TO SIGN HIM AND PASSED that was their first of many mistakes, and are still living with their last mistake.

  • I see some inconsistency in thought process. Kobe has gotten 25, 5, 5 (roughly) as his averages for his career. That is based on a game that is heavily ball dominant. He was the primary facilitator of the offense for most of those years. Now, they have 3 other players in the starting lineup alone that are responsible for distributing the ball and/or can create their own shots. The ball is in Kobe’s hands less trips down the floor as a result. On top of that, a guy that has averaged 35 plus minutes for almost his entire career is getting 28-29 a game. Finally, he is being asked to play a different primary position which changes his matchups, placement on the floor, and point in the offense. Yet, with all of that, you want him to be a 15, 5, 5 guy? He has the ball less, many times is reduced to a spot up shooter or 2-3 dribbles and shooter, he gets the ball on the perimeter with no movement from the others to get someone open, and you want him to get 5 assists?

  • Let’s give him more than 6 games to adapt.
    He’s still strengthening his arm and remembering how to play.

    And like Kobe said, (that) it’s been agree by him, scott and mitch, for him to continue playing “like a superstar” so that the young guys get used to playing with higher level players and have expectations of higher level players. The front office wants Kobe to keep chucking and playing like Kobe to help the young kids learn.

  • If we had a coach like Duncan it would be a different world for the LAKERS , there would not be any of the BULL CRAP going on, we have not had a real coach since PHIL J. And THE LAKERS HAD A CHANCE TO SIGN HIM AND PASSED that was their first of many mistakes, and are still living with their last mistake.

  • I see some inconsistency in thought process. Kobe has gotten 25, 5, 5 (roughly) as his averages for his career. That is based on a game that is heavily ball dominant. He was the primary facilitator of the offense for most of those years. Now, they have 3 other players in the starting lineup alone that are responsible for distributing the ball and/or can create their own shots. The ball is in Kobe’s hands less trips down the floor as a result. On top of that, a guy that has averaged 35 plus minutes for almost his entire career is getting 28-29 a game. Finally, he is being asked to play a different primary position which changes his matchups, placement on the floor, and point in the offense. Yet, with all of that, you want him to be a 15, 5, 5 guy? He has the ball less, many times is reduced to a spot up shooter or 2-3 dribbles and shooter, he gets the ball on the perimeter with no movement from the others to get someone open, and you want him to get 5 assists?

  • Let’s give him more than 6 games to adapt.
    He’s still strengthening his arm and remembering how to play.

    And like Kobe said, (that) it’s been agree by him, scott and mitch, for him to continue playing “like a superstar” so that the young guys get used to playing with higher level players and have expectations of higher level players. The front office wants Kobe to keep chucking and playing like Kobe to help the young kids learn.

  • I disagree and find the fact that you don’t to be inconsistent. How can you say, the Lakers need to move on the from the past, yet be in favor in bringing back a coach from the past? Do you not remember how Phil handled Farmar and the other young players? They had a VERY short leash there first few years. Luke Walton was the ONLY young player Phil gave any real PT to.

  • I disagree and find the fact that you don’t to be inconsistent. How can you say, the Lakers need to move on the from the past, yet be in favor in bringing back a coach from the past? Do you not remember how Phil handled Farmar and the other young players? They had a VERY short leash there first few years. Luke Walton was the ONLY young player Phil gave any real PT to.

  • What world did you come from, so how is that a excuse for taking all those bad shots, respect for that, if you are that good then you would want to help your team win if your on your way out that’s where you get RESPECT, Give him his gold watch.

  • What world did you come from, so how is that a excuse for taking all those bad shots, respect for that, if you are that good then you would want to help your team win if your on your way out that’s where you get RESPECT, Give him his gold watch.

  • The problem is you are going by averages for his whole career. If you look at the past 4 years when kobe has played at SF he has been a more rounded/efficient player. furthermore kobe is still averaging 17 shots a game, a top 20 usage %, top 4 in three point attempts (only behind harden, curry, lillard). So the ball is in Kobe’s hand, he has played SF before. He is averaging 3 assists now with his current shooting. Cut that down and I expect him to get up to five.

  • The problem is you are going by averages for his whole career. If you look at the past 4 years when kobe has played at SF he has been a more rounded/efficient player. furthermore kobe is still averaging 17 shots a game, a top 20 usage %, top 4 in three point attempts (only behind harden, curry, lillard). So the ball is in Kobe’s hand, he has played SF before. He is averaging 3 assists now with his current shooting. Cut that down and I expect him to get up to five.

  • YOUR talking about KOBE not bench players , but if and when they are on the court they try to play the game as a team, not as a one man CIRCUS.

  • YOUR talking about KOBE not bench players , but if and when they are on the court they try to play the game as a team, not as a one man CIRCUS.

  • More 3’s but not more shots. The ball is is in his hands less and the spots in which he gets it is different. He use to get it at the top of the key with a spaced floor to operate. Now he gets it beyond the arc on the wing where defenses can cover him while not sacrificing their coverage on other players. Shooting less won’t automatically mean more assists, it will simply mean less time the ball is in his hands. He isn’t initiating the offense anymore…that’s why he isn’t getting assists.

  • More 3’s but not more shots. The ball is is in his hands less and the spots in which he gets it is different. He use to get it at the top of the key with a spaced floor to operate. Now he gets it beyond the arc on the wing where defenses can cover him while not sacrificing their coverage on other players. Shooting less won’t automatically mean more assists, it will simply mean less time the ball is in his hands. He isn’t initiating the offense anymore…that’s why he isn’t getting assists.

  • more “bad quality” shots and 17 is still a high amount. And he still gets the ball A LOT. He is as you said playing less minutes BUT still high in all the categories I listed. I agree he should get the ball more. But it should be closer to the basket where he can use his excellent foot work. Not on the perimeter here he has lost speed and get beat a defender with his first step.

  • I CANT BELIEVE WADE IS A BETTER FAN THAN SOME OF THESE FAKER KOBE HATER FANS.

    RESPECT FOR WADE!

    FFFFF THE HATERS, GO KOBE!

  • more “bad quality” shots and 17 is still a high amount. And he still gets the ball A LOT. He is as you said playing less minutes BUT still high in all the categories I listed. I agree he should get the ball more. But it should be closer to the basket where he can use his excellent foot work. Not on the perimeter here he has lost speed and get beat a defender with his first step.

  • I CANT BELIEVE WADE IS A BETTER FAN THAN SOME OF THESE FAKER KOBE HATER FANS.

    RESPECT FOR WADE!

    FFFFF THE HATERS, GO KOBE!

  • Its always the idiots that come here to critcize Kobe that know more than the actual players. HAHAHAHA.

    Like Kobe cares what you think. HAHAHA. Retarded.

  • Its always the idiots that come here to critcize Kobe that know more than the actual players. HAHAHAHA.

    Like Kobe cares what you think. HAHAHA. Retarded.

  • The last games Kobe has been equal to or BETTER than the rest of the team.

    STOP HATING!

    GO KOBE!

  • The last games Kobe has been equal to or BETTER than the rest of the team.

    STOP HATING!

    GO KOBE!

  • Haters try to say that other players hate Kobe to justify their own hate.

    WADE > FAKER KOBE HATER FANS!

  • It’s not an excuse. I just will not be critical of the guy. I am older than him…and realize that if I live to be much older, I will want people to treat me nice.

  • Haters try to say that other players hate Kobe to justify their own hate.

    WADE > FAKER KOBE HATER FANS!

  • It’s not an excuse. I just will not be critical of the guy. I am older than him…and realize that if I live to be much older, I will want people to treat me nice.

  • Were you a Lin fan last year and now salty he left? I swear Kobe fans have reach the same level of hysteria as Lin fans. Maybe Lin fans never left…

  • Were you a Lin fan last year and now salty he left? I swear Kobe fans have reach the same level of hysteria as Lin fans. Maybe Lin fans never left…

  • Pardon Me…..But you do get Bonus points in the NBA.. It’s called the Hall Of Fame.

  • Pardon Me…..But you do get Bonus points in the NBA.. It’s called the Hall Of Fame.

  • What the H are you doing on a LAKERS site dedicated to Kobe and his team if you’re going to hate fool.

    GTFOH troll.

  • How many points does that add to the score during a game they play? 0 is the number I believe so no it doesn’t.

  • What the H are you doing on a LAKERS site dedicated to Kobe and his team if you’re going to hate fool.

    GTFOH troll.

  • How many points does that add to the score during a game they play? 0 is the number I believe so no it doesn’t.

  • Yes, this a LAKERS site. Maybe you Kobe fans can get your own site KOBENATION.

    I care about the LAL and no player is above that.

  • If that is what they need than that is what they would get, from PHIL but in this case we are rebuilding and don’t really have enough players to sit he YOUNG GUYS, different years different players, I did not say bring PHIL back now I said they blew it by not singing him when they had a chance # one mistake, How good have we done since then?

  • Yes, this a LAKERS site. Maybe you Kobe fans can get your own site KOBENATION.

    I care about the LAL and no player is above that.

  • If that is what they need than that is what they would get, from PHIL but in this case we are rebuilding and don’t really have enough players to sit he YOUNG GUYS, different years different players, I did not say bring PHIL back now I said they blew it by not singing him when they had a chance # one mistake, How good have we done since then?

  • That guy is a clown and hes losing.

    Somehow those fools believe that if they post enough hate they will erase all of Kobes accolades. HAHAHA

    Its usually deficient men that have a problem accepting Kobes greatness.

  • That guy is a clown and hes losing.

    Somehow those fools believe that if they post enough hate they will erase all of Kobes accolades. HAHAHA

    Its usually deficient men that have a problem accepting Kobes greatness.

  • You care about your hate agenda.

    Dont let OUR Lakers Nation door hit your asssss on the way out BBBBB!

  • Stop projecting. Maybe we want to see the young core develop and Kobe looks to be a major hinderance.

  • You care about your hate agenda.

    Dont let OUR Lakers Nation door hit your asssss on the way out BBBBB!

  • Stop projecting. Maybe we want to see the young core develop and Kobe looks to be a major hinderance.

  • Yea lets waste 76 more games and start all over next year, trying to make a team out of guys that should already understand the NBA and know how to play a system if BS ever figures out one.

  • Yea lets waste 76 more games and start all over next year, trying to make a team out of guys that should already understand the NBA and know how to play a system if BS ever figures out one.

  • You and a Few other people might not give him Credit for 5 Rings….But the peoples that Count Knows better…..Gasol never won a Chip without Kobe….Shaq didn’t win until he team with Kobe….All in 1 place….Pau played in Memphis 7yrs and had only 1 All Star app…With Kobe (you do the math).

  • You and a Few other people might not give him Credit for 5 Rings….But the peoples that Count Knows better…..Gasol never won a Chip without Kobe….Shaq didn’t win until he team with Kobe….All in 1 place….Pau played in Memphis 7yrs and had only 1 All Star app…With Kobe (you do the math).

  • just because you point things out about todays kobe doesn’t mean you’re not a fan of his

  • just because you point things out about todays kobe doesn’t mean you’re not a fan of his

  • “Looks to be”? What is he hindering? If you take his 29 minutes off, who is going to get those minutes? Russell is a point guard, so does he get those minutes? Clarkson is already getting 32 most nights…how many would he get? Would Brown get those minutes or would Young get more?

    They would get 20 shots spread out as well. How much of a difference would that make?
    You and others kill me because you act like there are so many more opportunities that would exist if KObe wasn’t playing.

  • “Looks to be”? What is he hindering? If you take his 29 minutes off, who is going to get those minutes? Russell is a point guard, so does he get those minutes? Clarkson is already getting 32 most nights…how many would he get? Would Brown get those minutes or would Young get more?

    They would get 20 shots spread out as well. How much of a difference would that make?
    You and others kill me because you act like there are so many more opportunities that would exist if KObe wasn’t playing.

  • Maybe you are just a coward hater and want to see Kobes demise.

    Watch out Kobe you lost one out of your millions of fans with lorenzo. HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Maybe you are just a coward hater and want to see Kobes demise.

    Watch out Kobe you lost one out of your millions of fans with lorenzo. HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Kobe worshippers??? I take worship seriously, and think your using of the term is pretty poor.

  • Kobe worshippers??? I take worship seriously, and think your using of the term is pretty poor.

  • They beat us or don’t you watch or know what is going on with the LAKERS or are you getting your information from other that know as little as you do about what is going on.

  • They beat us or don’t you watch or know what is going on with the LAKERS or are you getting your information from other that know as little as you do about what is going on.

  • LOL man up bro stop being sensitive, if you want to see kobe worship just read B166’s comments

  • LOL man up bro stop being sensitive, if you want to see kobe worship just read B166’s comments

  • Im a Kobe worshiper bro.

    And any fan from 90’s and earlier should appreciate Kobe.

    I respect you Rival but to the haters i say FUUUU THEM!

  • I don’t gamble. But I would contend that Wade’s comments will have no effect on Kobe’s play. Kobe typically does what you are suggesting when people criticize his game. Wade didn’t criticize him so there is no real fight here. In fact, Wade praised him.

  • Im a Kobe worshiper bro.

    And any fan from 90’s and earlier should appreciate Kobe.

    I respect you Rival but to the haters i say FUUUU THEM!

  • I don’t gamble. But I would contend that Wade’s comments will have no effect on Kobe’s play. Kobe typically does what you are suggesting when people criticize his game. Wade didn’t criticize him so there is no real fight here. In fact, Wade praised him.

  • So did Sacramento. What’s your point? You were arguing that Phil could have done a good job and my point was what has he done with the Knicks so far. If beating us last game is the foundation for your argument, that’s pretty weak.

  • So did Sacramento. What’s your point? You were arguing that Phil could have done a good job and my point was what has he done with the Knicks so far. If beating us last game is the foundation for your argument, that’s pretty weak.

  • “Man up…stop being senistive”? So being a Christian and taking the term worship serious makes me sensitive?

  • kobe; I’m playing like $#!t right now, I’m the 200th best player in the league

    B166; thats not true you dont know basketball, its not kobe’s fault its byron’s fault

    kobe; I AM KOBE YOU FREAKING IDIOT AND IM ADMITTING TO PLAYING LIKE $#!T!!! GET OFF MY NUTS ALREADY!!!!

  • I know.

    Your OK in my book Rival.

    Its the documented haters than only post Kobe hate that I call out. Those fools even post Kobe hate on non Kobe related posts.

  • You are exposed and just like Lin fans, kick rocks when your idol is gone. Real Lakers fans got this.

  • “Man up…stop being senistive”? So being a Christian and taking the term worship serious makes me sensitive?

  • kobe; I’m playing like $#!t right now, I’m the 200th best player in the league

    B166; thats not true you dont know basketball, its not kobe’s fault its byron’s fault

    kobe; I AM KOBE YOU FREAKING IDIOT AND IM ADMITTING TO PLAYING LIKE $#!T!!! GET OFF MY NUTS ALREADY!!!!

  • I know.

    Your OK in my book Rival.

    Its the documented haters than only post Kobe hate that I call out. Those fools even post Kobe hate on non Kobe related posts.

  • You are exposed and just like Lin fans, kick rocks when your idol is gone. Real Lakers fans got this.

  • You know I’m a huge laker/kobe fan i just cant stand these dudes that keep making excuses for kobe

  • You know I’m a huge laker/kobe fan i just cant stand these dudes that keep making excuses for kobe

  • HAHAHAH, NINJA PLEASE!

    You call yourself a Laker fan HAHAHHAH.

    Get your tubby as s out of LAKERS NATION MR PREEK!

  • HAHAHAH, NINJA PLEASE!

    You call yourself a Laker fan HAHAHHAH.

    Get your tubby as s out of LAKERS NATION MR PREEK!

  • You asked how good PHIL has done, I answered was I wrong , let me refresh you thoughts against NYC KOBE SHOT 19 TIMES 10 OF WHICH WERE 3 PT SHOTS AND MADE 2 OUT OF 10— and only 6/ 19, 6 more shots then any other LAKER and shooting only 31% and 3s @ 20 %, is my argument still so weak, tell me all about it or tuck your tail until a later time when you have some thing to talk about.

  • You asked how good PHIL has done, I answered was I wrong , let me refresh you thoughts against NYC KOBE SHOT 19 TIMES 10 OF WHICH WERE 3 PT SHOTS AND MADE 2 OUT OF 10— and only 6/ 19, 6 more shots then any other LAKER and shooting only 31% and 3s @ 20 %, is my argument still so weak, tell me all about it or tuck your tail until a later time when you have some thing to talk about.

  • Well you cant blame us. I do it as a counter to all the bull these haters bring here.

    Im going to be just as annoying as they are.

    When you try to have a normal discussion, all that they know how to post is hate bro.

  • Well you cant blame us. I do it as a counter to all the bull these haters bring here.

    Im going to be just as annoying as they are.

    When you try to have a normal discussion, all that they know how to post is hate bro.

  • I think the reason why you’re getting heat for your comments is because you come across as going out of your way to diss Kobe. Whether it’s true or not I leave that up to you, I’m just pointing out how you come across.

    As it is, the only reason why I don’t give weight to you being a Kobe hater is because I’ve actually talked to you here often enough on LN to know you do talk about the team–and everything that has to do with it–and not just jumping in to pile it on Kobe for the hundredth time.

    Me, personally? I’ve been a Laker fan since I was five/1980 so I’ve watched the rise and fall of the Lakers plenty of times to know we’re headed upward soon enough. So I understand the sentiment about the Lakers being first and the players are secondary to the team.

    That said, Kobe’s never been given his due and that’s part of the reason why Lakers fans protect him at times. It’s bad enough Kareem’s career accomplishments get overlooked in favor to MJ, Lebron, etc.

  • I think the reason why you’re getting heat for your comments is because you come across as going out of your way to diss Kobe. Whether it’s true or not I leave that up to you, I’m just pointing out how you come across.

    As it is, the only reason why I don’t give weight to you being a Kobe hater is because I’ve actually talked to you here often enough on LN to know you do talk about the team–and everything that has to do with it–and not just jumping in to pile it on Kobe for the hundredth time.

    Me, personally? I’ve been a Laker fan since I was five/1980 so I’ve watched the rise and fall of the Lakers plenty of times to know we’re headed upward soon enough. So I understand the sentiment about the Lakers being first and the players are secondary to the team.

    That said, Kobe’s never been given his due and that’s part of the reason why Lakers fans protect him at times. It’s bad enough Kareem’s career accomplishments get overlooked in favor to MJ, Lebron, etc.

  • Al is one that should not talk. People always dismiss him here because of his age and he gets upset. Yet, its somehow ok for him to call Kobe out about his age.

    Go figure!

  • Game Knows Game…….Kobe been the highest paid player for 4-5yrs now…..The Lakers haven’t lost money because is Box Office……You haven’t heard or seen 1 player in the NBA call Kobe over’paid…..Speaks Volumes.

  • Al is one that should not talk. People always dismiss him here because of his age and he gets upset. Yet, its somehow ok for him to call Kobe out about his age.

    Go figure!

  • Game Knows Game…….Kobe been the highest paid player for 4-5yrs now…..The Lakers haven’t lost money because is Box Office……You haven’t heard or seen 1 player in the NBA call Kobe over’paid…..Speaks Volumes.

  • to some of these kobe fans anything you say about kobe sounds like a dis to them

  • to some of these kobe fans anything you say about kobe sounds like a dis to them

  • Players don’t call other players overpaid. Players have said they would love to play with Kobe, yet not one has came to the Lakers during their FA. HMMMM…

  • Players don’t call other players overpaid. Players have said they would love to play with Kobe, yet not one has came to the Lakers during their FA. HMMMM…

  • Exactly. And the crazy thing is kobe himself is open to constructive criticism. He’s used it to make himself into the legend he is today.

  • Exactly. And the crazy thing is kobe himself is open to constructive criticism. He’s used it to make himself into the legend he is today.

  • If some one offers more money and you are not in rebuilding mode…you can’t blame them…..Most of those FA have been in the League awhile.

  • If some one offers more money and you are not in rebuilding mode…you can’t blame them…..Most of those FA have been in the League awhile.

  • Your argument is valid but what does it have to do why my comment about Phil not being the right guy for the Lakers back when they hired D’Antoni?

  • he started eating too much when he was depressed about lebron’s departure

  • Your argument is valid but what does it have to do why my comment about Phil not being the right guy for the Lakers back when they hired D’Antoni?

  • he started eating too much when he was depressed about lebron’s departure

  • Here is some 2 for you, KOBE ave pts this year 16.5 shooting % 320 and 3s % 208 for the year” Clarkson ave pts for the year 16.5 same as KOBE but shooting % 506 and 3s % is 455 CLARKSON IS shooting less and doing more and he is one year from being a ROOKIE—END OF THIS STORY. if you cant see what is going on that’s your problem but your not alone, you have another KOBE LOVER laker lifer, but he is not as intelligent as you are , have a good day and don’t miss the game tonight see you WED THE 11 th.

  • Here is some 2 for you, KOBE ave pts this year 16.5 shooting % 320 and 3s % 208 for the year” Clarkson ave pts for the year 16.5 same as KOBE but shooting % 506 and 3s % is 455 CLARKSON IS shooting less and doing more and he is one year from being a ROOKIE—END OF THIS STORY. if you cant see what is going on that’s your problem but your not alone, you have another KOBE LOVER laker lifer, but he is not as intelligent as you are , have a good day and don’t miss the game tonight see you WED THE 11 th.

  • Yeah, but why would FA’s in their prime who have 7-8 yrs left come to the Lakers and play with a guy who they are better than right now and get paid 8-10 million less? Makes no sense. I’m not blaming Kobe for taking the money, but he has made a quarter of billion his career, i’m pretty sure he didn’t need the money. He could of turned it down and asked for a little less though.

  • Yeah, but why would FA’s in their prime who have 7-8 yrs left come to the Lakers and play with a guy who they are better than right now and get paid 8-10 million less? Makes no sense. I’m not blaming Kobe for taking the money, but he has made a quarter of billion his career, i’m pretty sure he didn’t need the money. He could of turned it down and asked for a little less though.

  • I’m not disagreeing with the numbers. I just choose to not criticize the guy. He could be shooting 1-20 and I wouldn’t.

  • Yes they Do called some players Over paid….But you don’t see players getting 25,000,000 dollars unless they are Box Office.

  • I’m not disagreeing with the numbers. I just choose to not criticize the guy. He could be shooting 1-20 and I wouldn’t.

  • Yes they Do called some players Over paid….But you don’t see players getting 25,000,000 dollars unless they are Box Office.

  • What NBA player have you heard call another overpaid? Who cares about Box Office right now, it’s about winning, and the Lakers aren’t doing that.

  • What NBA player have you heard call another overpaid? Who cares about Box Office right now, it’s about winning, and the Lakers aren’t doing that.

  • First of all….what player that the Lakers went after in FA was better than Kobe….and had Won anything?

  • First of all….what player that the Lakers went after in FA was better than Kobe….and had Won anything?

  • Meh…They need a perimeter 2 or 3 that can shoot 3’s and jumpers. Chalmers is not the answer for them.

  • Just for a little Laker history, Magic’s return (when he played with C-Ballin’ Cedric Ceballos back in the 90s) he clashed with the then-current squad and that was solely due to him not wanting to take a back seat to the newbies (given who we had, I understand…I mean, Magic taking a backseat to Doug Christie, Elden Campbell, etc is just…no). Cedric himself said publicly,”It’s not Showtime anymore, it’s the Lake Show!”

    So while we didn’t get to see Magic play when he was old, I’d think Magic is too alpha to cede control. Oth, Magic is a pg who’s whole schtick is making others around him better by default of position, which is a bit different than asking a SG not to shoot.

  • Meh…They need a perimeter 2 or 3 that can shoot 3’s and jumpers. Chalmers is not the answer for them.

  • Just for a little Laker history, Magic’s return (when he played with C-Ballin’ Cedric Ceballos back in the 90s) he clashed with the then-current squad and that was solely due to him not wanting to take a back seat to the newbies (given who we had, I understand…I mean, Magic taking a backseat to Doug Christie, Elden Campbell, etc is just…no). Cedric himself said publicly,”It’s not Showtime anymore, it’s the Lake Show!”

    So while we didn’t get to see Magic play when he was old, I’d think Magic is too alpha to cede control. Oth, Magic is a pg who’s whole schtick is making others around him better by default of position, which is a bit different than asking a SG not to shoot.

  • Really? So these last few FA summers for the Lakers, you’re telling me Kobe was still better than Lebron, Melo and Aldridge. I don’t think so. Mind you how many games he has played the last 2 yrs, there is a reason the FO went after them.

  • Clearly a reaction to their slow start. Chalmers has a questionable attitude. I don’t know if he will fit with their team attitude.

  • Really? So these last few FA summers for the Lakers, you’re telling me Kobe was still better than Lebron, Melo and Aldridge. I don’t think so. Mind you how many games he has played the last 2 yrs, there is a reason the FO went after them.

  • Clearly a reaction to their slow start. Chalmers has a questionable attitude. I don’t know if he will fit with their team attitude.

  • Who is talking about the past, i’m talking the last 2 summers where the Lakers struck out in FA. Kobe was not better than Lebron, Melo or Aldridge.

  • They never really went after Lebron…be serious. Melo and Aldridge never won anything….isn’t that what he asked?

  • Who is talking about the past, i’m talking the last 2 summers where the Lakers struck out in FA. Kobe was not better than Lebron, Melo or Aldridge.

  • They never really went after Lebron…be serious. Melo and Aldridge never won anything….isn’t that what he asked?

  • That’s not what Memphis needs. They can’t score and have no perimeter scoring. Chalmers doesn’t help them at all.

  • That’s not what Memphis needs. They can’t score and have no perimeter scoring. Chalmers doesn’t help them at all.

  • You better get a Reality Check…..This is a Business Also….Teams are losing money but some will have more to spend because of the TV deal…..You don’t have but a few players that are Box Office…..Players are trying to promote their brand….Catch Up.

  • You better get a Reality Check…..This is a Business Also….Teams are losing money but some will have more to spend because of the TV deal…..You don’t have but a few players that are Box Office…..Players are trying to promote their brand….Catch Up.

  • If you would always post about Kobe respectfully as in this post when you express yourself I would never have problems with your opinions.

  • If you would always post about Kobe respectfully as in this post when you express yourself I would never have problems with your opinions.

  • What are they smoking in Memphis? They had a nice squad/core. All they needed was some legit shooters that can three it up to spread the floor and it seems like they just keep failing to do that.

    As it is, Chalmers was exposed when he was playing with three future HoFs, what do they expect him to do when the pressure’s on him without that to distract the defense off of him?

  • What are they smoking in Memphis? They had a nice squad/core. All they needed was some legit shooters that can three it up to spread the floor and it seems like they just keep failing to do that.

    As it is, Chalmers was exposed when he was playing with three future HoFs, what do they expect him to do when the pressure’s on him without that to distract the defense off of him?

  • Thanks for making my argument. LA is behind New York far as valuable Franchises in the NBA, so why didn’t no FA want to come to the Lakers if it’s about promoting their brand? It’s a guy who is making 25 million and it isn’t earning it right now. That’s why

  • Thanks for making my argument. LA is behind New York far as valuable Franchises in the NBA, so why didn’t no FA want to come to the Lakers if it’s about promoting their brand? It’s a guy who is making 25 million and it isn’t earning it right now. That’s why

  • The offense is run through Kobe. It’s time for it to evolve from that. We have a young core and we need to develop them. Since we are not going to the playoffs why are not trying to develop that?

  • The offense is run through Kobe. It’s time for it to evolve from that. We have a young core and we need to develop them. Since we are not going to the playoffs why are not trying to develop that?

  • 1st things 1st….Lebron wasn’t coming to LA at All….Melo is younger than Kobe…not better…LA is a good Role player not a Franchise player….Who been in the League 10yrs…Not a Kobe Bryant.

  • Exactly.

    When I came to Lakers Nation, I never expected there to be (domestic) Kobe haters.

    Kobe haters on a Lakers website? Makes no sense!

  • The FO wanted Lebron, but everyone knew he was going back to Cleveland. Regardless if Melo or LA won anything or not, they are 7-8 yrs younger than Kobe and better right now. Kobe has this yr left, and you could build around those guys with the young guys we have now and been more competitive down the line. This is a Superstar driven League, and when Kobe retires, the Lakers have nobody on the roster like that right now.

  • They’re desperate for more offense. Chalmers will at least give them that.

  • 1st things 1st….Lebron wasn’t coming to LA at All….Melo is younger than Kobe…not better…LA is a good Role player not a Franchise player….Who been in the League 10yrs…Not a Kobe Bryant.

  • Exactly.

    When I came to Lakers Nation, I never expected there to be (domestic) Kobe haters. I expected that from other teams fans.

    Kobe haters on a Lakers website? Makes no sense!

  • The FO wanted Lebron, but everyone knew he was going back to Cleveland. Regardless if Melo or LA won anything or not, they are 7-8 yrs younger than Kobe and better right now. Kobe has this yr left, and you could build around those guys with the young guys we have now and been more competitive down the line. This is a Superstar driven League, and when Kobe retires, the Lakers have nobody on the roster like that right now.

  • They’re desperate for more offense. Chalmers will at least give them that.

  • Unis (or whatever the backup pg name is) was not playing well. They need more offense and Chalmers was available. I agree they still need some shooters but this is a step in the right direction for them.

  • Unis (or whatever the backup pg name is) was not playing well. They need more offense and Chalmers was available. I agree they still need some shooters but this is a step in the right direction for them.

  • Maybe we can abuse them and give up Sweet Lou haha He can’t score all night long. We can ask for Jarrel Martin, a first round pick and maybe a guy like Brendan Wright

  • Maybe we can abuse them and give up Sweet Lou haha He can’t score all night long. We can ask for Jarrel Martin, a first round pick and maybe a guy like Brendan Wright

  • That Memphis core has ran it’s course. They will win 45-50 games as usual, but will get blown out of a series this yr again. Chalmers is not a difference maker at all. LOL

  • That Memphis core has ran it’s course. They will win 45-50 games as usual, but will get blown out of a series this yr again. Chalmers is not a difference maker at all. LOL

  • Kobe, the competitor

    Why not want to play, each and every game, after missing so many games – knowing His God given talent – wanting to Win – hearing nothing but haters / doubters, why not

    Beat Miami – Go Lakers

  • Somewhat agreed. They may still pick up those shooters but it’s looking like their window is almost closed.

  • Kobe, the competitor

    Why not want to play, each and every game, after missing so many games – knowing His God given talent – wanting to Win – hearing nothing but haters / doubters, why not

    Beat Miami – Go Lakers

  • Somewhat agreed. They may still pick up those shooters but it’s looking like their window is almost closed.

  • Maybe we can abuse Memphis and give up Sweet Lou haha He can’t score all night long. We can ask for Jarrel Martin, a first round pick and maybe a guy like Brendan Wright. They are desperate

  • 1st of all ….do your homework…The Lakers is the most valuable franchise in the NBA….Players that’s been in the League 10yrs want to win Now…Younger players aim for the bright lights.

  • Maybe we can abuse Memphis and give up Sweet Lou haha He can’t score all night long. We can ask for Jarrel Martin, a first round pick and maybe a guy like Brendan Wright. They are desperate

  • 1st of all ….do your homework…The Lakers is the most valuable franchise in the NBA….Players that’s been in the League 10yrs want to win Now…Younger players aim for the bright lights.

  • I don’t think Brendan Wright would be available but I LAL definitely need to move people to give the young players PT.

  • My opinion? So if you were in your prime, would you come to a team with an over the hill SG that’s making 25 million and you’re only getting 16-17 and you know you’re better than him at this point in your career? I don’t think so

  • I don’t think Brendan Wright would be available but I LAL definitely need to move people to give the young players PT.

  • My opinion? So if you were in your prime, would you come to a team with an over the hill SG that’s making 25 million and you’re only getting 16-17 and you know you’re better than him at this point in your career? I don’t think so

  • Melo can do that in NY…where he is from…LA want to win Now….not with a rebuilding team….he’s been in the League 10yrs.

  • Melo can do that in NY…where he is from…LA want to win Now….not with a rebuilding team….he’s been in the League 10yrs.

  • LA is a role player? You are aware he carried the Portland Franchise when Roy got hurt…The Lakers don’t offer Role players Franchise money, and that’s what they would of given LA to build around when Kobe left.

  • LA is a role player? You are aware he carried the Portland Franchise when Roy got hurt…The Lakers don’t offer Role players Franchise money, and that’s what they would of given LA to build around when Kobe left.

  • Magic did take a back seat in 96, albeit different circumstances. He moved to SF off the bench as the Late Show youth did the heavy lifting.

  • Magic did take a back seat in 96, albeit different circumstances. He moved to SF off the bench as the Late Show youth did the heavy lifting.

  • Tell that to KG, as his example is getting better results with his lesser role.

  • Gasol in his best day couldn’t do what Aldridge did in the Playoffs. The Lakers FO saw that. Gasol carried those Memphis teams to 0 zero Playoff wins. I mean he didn’t win a single game being the man. Not even close to being the same players.

  • Does Kobe playing poorly change the outcome of the team or games?
    If Kobe’s the 200th best player, and hes the BEST player on this team, what does that tell you about the rankings of the rest of the team?

    I understand criticism, and I agree that Kobe’s playing poorly, but I also understand there are greater dynamics and that — in this case — it really doesn’t change much in the win/loss columns.

    So is criticizing Kobe going to change anything? Or are you shooting the messenger and scapegoating him?

  • Tell that to KG, as his example is getting better results with his lesser role. Paul P did the same in Washington with Beal and Wall.

  • Gasol in his best day couldn’t do what Aldridge did in the Playoffs. The Lakers FO saw that. Gasol carried those Memphis teams to 0 zero Playoff wins. I mean he didn’t win a single game being the man. Not even close to being the same players.

  • Does Kobe playing poorly change the outcome of the team or games?
    If Kobe’s the 200th best player, and hes the BEST player on this team, what does that tell you about the rankings of the rest of the team?

    I understand criticism, and I agree that Kobe’s playing poorly, but I also understand there are greater dynamics and that — in this case — it really doesn’t change much in the win/loss columns.

    So is criticizing Kobe going to change anything? Or are you shooting the messenger and scapegoating him?

  • I don’t know his high usage rate seems to say he is. RIght now the LAL would be better served with at least Clarkson leading the team in shot attempts.

    I think we are seeing two different things out there which happens when there are so many offensive plays. I just think the sooner LAL develop their future players the better imo.

  • I don’t know his high usage rate seems to say he is. RIght now the LAL would be better served with at least Clarkson leading the team in shot attempts.

    I think we are seeing two different things out there which happens when there are so many offensive plays. I just think the sooner LAL develop their future players the better imo.

  • How does Mitch Kupchak still have a job? 21 wins last year. 27 wins the year before. Maybe 20 some this year. What is going on?

  • How does Mitch Kupchak still have a job? 21 wins last year. 27 wins the year before. Maybe 20 some this year. What is going on?

  • We’ve got to develop the core, I think we can all agree on that. Clarkson should be the #1 option offensively given his numbers and he’s not getting enough touches. Right now Clarkson’s numbers point to him being the best player for the LAL.

    It’s just got to be done for the future. If they can showcase Clarkson, maybe even get him into the all-star game. It would definitely improve our chances with FA.

  • We’ve got to develop the core, I think we can all agree on that. Clarkson should be the #1 option offensively given his numbers and he’s not getting enough touches. Right now Clarkson’s numbers point to him being the best player for the LAL.

    It’s just got to be done for the future. If they can showcase Clarkson, maybe even get him into the all-star game. It would definitely improve our chances with FA.

  • Yes. I’ve been saying this since theAAchilles injury. I told folks back then Kobe’s new challenge would be health maintenance not superstar status.

  • And after 6 games, you have determined that the core isn’t going to be developed this year?

  • You might not like the methods…..
    You might be able to criticize the methods…
    But you can’t change them. And, you can’t really say that his methods are working (or not).

    — In the same article that Kobe said that it was agreed that he should continue to play like a superstar, Russell said that he (russell) wanted kobe to keep playing exactly how he is playing to teach them how to take shots, what to do in tough situations, and how to play like a superstar…… as opposed to a passive rookie, or robot mid-tier veteran.

    So, are Kobe (and Scott’s) methods not working? It seems like they are. It’s just that you don’t understand their methods and only want to be critical.

    And truth be told, after 6 games it’s way too early to tell anything….

  • Yes. I’ve been saying this since theAAchilles injury. I told folks back then Kobe’s new challenge would be health maintenance not superstar status.

  • And after 6 games, you have determined that the core isn’t going to be developed this year?

  • You might not like the methods…..
    You might be able to criticize the methods…
    But you can’t change them. And, you can’t really say that his methods are working (or not).

    — In the same article that Kobe said that it was agreed that he should continue to play like a superstar, Russell said that he (russell) wanted kobe to keep playing exactly how he is playing to teach them how to take shots, what to do in tough situations, and how to play like a superstar…… as opposed to a passive rookie, or robot mid-tier veteran.

    So, are Kobe (and Scott’s) methods not working? It seems like they are. It’s just that you don’t understand their methods and only want to be critical.

    And truth be told, after 6 games it’s way too early to tell anything….

  • I meant about KG being such a good model for how to get the young guys playing well.

  • I think Mitch is going to be phased out once they feel Ryan West can take over.

  • I meant about KG being such a good model for how to get the young guys playing well.

  • I think Mitch is going to be phased out once they feel Ryan West can take over.

  • Some of you come over to Kobe’s House (Lakers Blog)and put your foots upon the furniture….That’s not happening here….
    So when we SLAP your foots off the furniture…Don’t look Surprised because we Protect This House…..Close The Door Behind You..

  • Laker fans r so selfish this may be the last year u get to see one of the greatest to ever play the game who gave u 5 championships and so many dramatic wins who worked his but off lakers paid him cause they preciate what he has done almost 40 years old putting up 18 points a game still best player lakers got give the young guys mins they young they got plenty of time to get mins stfu and give kobe the respect he deserves even other teams fans give him respect but own lakers fans dont we aint making playoffs anyway

  • Let’s tank to get Ben Simmons.
    Have 4 out of 5 starting positions filled with future All Stars being paid a rookie minimum, and use Kobe’s last year to hide the fact that the team sucks and is tanking.

    I’d rather get Ben (or Skal, or Ingram) and be set up for a dynasty than try to win in the next 2-3 years in the impossibly congested West.

    But, i also understand that guys like you want to win at all costs and don’t see a bigger picture, or that getting 36 wins actually puts the team in a worse situation this year.

  • Some of you come over to Kobe’s House (Lakers Blog)and put your foots upon the furniture….That’s not happening here….
    So when we SLAP your foots off the furniture…Don’t look Surprised because we Protect This House…..Close The Door Behind You..

  • Laker fans r so selfish this may be the last year u get to see one of the greatest to ever play the game who gave u 5 championships and so many dramatic wins who worked his but off lakers paid him cause they preciate what he has done almost 40 years old putting up 18 points a game still best player lakers got give the young guys mins they young they got plenty of time to get mins stfu and give kobe the respect he deserves even other teams fans give him respect but own lakers fans dont we aint making playoffs anyway

  • Let’s tank to get Ben Simmons.
    Have 4 out of 5 starting positions filled with future All Stars being paid a rookie minimum, and use Kobe’s last year to hide the fact that the team sucks and is tanking.

    I’d rather get Ben (or Skal, or Ingram) and be set up for a dynasty than try to win in the next 2-3 years in the impossibly congested West.

    But, i also understand that guys like you want to win at all costs and don’t see a bigger picture, or that getting 36 wins actually puts the team in a worse situation this year.

  • If you don’t like it….
    Turn off the TV.

    It’s not your decision. And it’s not going to change this season.

    Does this mean we get to read your noise until April, and then watch you be critical about how you wanted the team to pick someone different in next year’s draft? and then be critical about how the team should do different rotations, or couldn’t get a certain free agent?

    Does it ever stop?
    No….

  • If you don’t like it….
    Turn off the TV.

    It’s not your decision. And it’s not going to change this season.

    Does this mean we get to read your noise until April, and then watch you be critical about how you wanted the team to pick someone different in next year’s draft? and then be critical about how the team should do different rotations, or couldn’t get a certain free agent?

    Does it ever stop?
    No….

  • Proof is in the results. Elder superstars taking a back seat as mentors is the time tested method to youth ascension.

  • Proof is in the results. Elder superstars taking a back seat as mentors is the time tested method to youth ascension.

  • My son is learning how to ride a bike. To help him, I put training wheels on his bike. When he first started I would hold the handle bars and walk with him. Now I let him ride by himself. Soon, I will let take off the training wheels. I will probably hold on to the handle bars or the seat a little, but will soon release him to ride. he may still fall a few times after that, but he will eventually learn how to ride.

    That’s development. Putting him on a bike for the first time with no training wheels and taking my hands off the wheel is poor parenting. However, that is exactly what many are suggesting Bryon should do with the young players.

  • My son is learning how to ride a bike. To help him, I put training wheels on his bike. When he first started I would hold the handle bars and walk with him. Now I let him ride by himself. Soon, I will let take off the training wheels. I will probably hold on to the handle bars or the seat a little, but will soon release him to ride. he may still fall a few times after that, but he will eventually learn how to ride.

    That’s development. Putting him on a bike for the first time with no training wheels and taking my hands off the wheel is poor parenting. However, that is exactly what many are suggesting Bryon should do with the young players.

  • I’m not a Kobe fan.
    I’m just not going to let people bash him senselessly.

    I’m also one to say… it is what it is… and after 6 games come to terms. Do you folks realize that there are 7 more months of basketball?

    And if you are already talking criticism, then the rest of us don’t want to hear (read) it until April.

    It’s not like you folks come up with anything new, insightful, or constructive. All you say are the same 4-5 blind statements based on the little bits of information you believe you know.

    I’m the first one to say that Kobe’s playing poorly. I’m also the first one to say that Kobe will figure it out.

    I’m the first one to say the team sucks. I’m the first one to say that the team is stealth tanking.

    I’m the first one to accept that this year is lost, that the front office has a different vision. And as such, I realize that complaining doesn’t change anything, or do anything. This team wants Ben Simmons, and Kobe is helping cover the fact that this team is bad. And, atleast we have some sort of bright spot (Kobe), rather than watching a really bad team like the 76’ers.

    The smartest decision for the team, as of now, is to get a top 3 pick and solve the SF issue for a decade. Winning just to get 36 wins, a 6th pick in the draft and to give it to Philadelphia doesn’t help. And with 36 wins, it doesn’t help the case to get Durant. So by winning the team loses twice.

  • I’m not a Kobe fan.
    I’m just not going to let people bash him senselessly.

    I’m also one to say… it is what it is… and after 6 games come to terms. Do you folks realize that there are 7 more months of basketball?

    And if you are already talking criticism, then the rest of us don’t want to hear (read) it until April.

    It’s not like you folks come up with anything new, insightful, or constructive. All you say are the same 4-5 blind statements based on the little bits of information you believe you know.

    I’m the first one to say that Kobe’s playing poorly. I’m also the first one to say that Kobe will figure it out.

    I’m the first one to say the team sucks. I’m the first one to say that the team is stealth tanking.

    I’m the first one to accept that this year is lost, that the front office has a different vision. And as such, I realize that complaining doesn’t change anything, or do anything. This team wants Ben Simmons, and Kobe is helping cover the fact that this team is bad. And, atleast we have some sort of bright spot (Kobe), rather than watching a really bad team like the 76’ers.

    The smartest decision for the team, as of now, is to get a top 3 pick and solve the SF issue for a decade. Winning just to get 36 wins, a 6th pick in the draft and to give it to Philadelphia doesn’t help. And with 36 wins, it doesn’t help the case to get Durant. So by winning the team loses twice.

    But atleast we have Kobe and a reason to watch games.

  • Sad reality is Kobe is a top 5 player of all time imo. Yet he has no idea how to make anyone better by looking at the game from the perspective of others. Does he really think shooting 20 percent from is developing Lo and clarkson….laughable.

  • Your a bigger IDIOT then I thought, if you want a battle of words get to it, but just because your a GIRL IN LOVE WITH KOBE will no stop me, wake up to what you really are a poor boring child living at home with MOM and DAD free loading, dreaming of KOBE, in a way I fell sorry for you because there is no hope for you after KOBE retires, but it will make LAKERS NATION much better off with you gone.

  • Sad reality is Kobe is a top 5 player of all time imo. Yet he has no idea how to make anyone better by looking at the game from the perspective of others. Does he really think shooting 20 percent from 3 put range is developing Lo and clarkson….laughable.

  • Your a bigger IDIOT then I thought, if you want a battle of words get to it, but just because your a GIRL IN LOVE WITH KOBE will no stop me, wake up to what you really are a poor boring child living at home with MOM and DAD free loading, dreaming of KOBE, in a way I fell sorry for you because there is no hope for you after KOBE retires, but it will make LAKERS NATION much better off with you gone.

  • Al, all he said is that you get criticized because of your age, yet you appear to do the same to Kobe. Why are you taking it to this level.

  • Al, all he said is that you get criticized because of your age, yet you appear to do the same to Kobe. Why are you taking it to this level.

  • If your statement were true, the Lakers would not have 5 championships during Kobe’s. Are you suggesting that the team won in spite of him those 5 times?

  • If your statement were true, the Lakers would not have 5 championships during Kobe’s. Are you suggesting that the team won in spite of him those 5 times?

  • I agree with you but its hard to sit and watch him play so poorly and its game after game, I would think he would have as much respect for his self as his Lakers fans.

  • Moving on….but not gone yet. The Lakers didn’t win anything Kareem’s last season, yet they took the time to honor a player that had done great for them.

    The Lakers should have led the league in honoring Kobe this year. We didn’t get to honor MJ because it was unknown when he would retire. We didn’t get to honor Magic because he left in surprise. But Kobe could be honored right now.

  • I agree with you but its hard to sit and watch him play so poorly and its game after game, I would think he would have as much respect for his self as his Lakers fans.

  • Moving on….but not gone yet. The Lakers didn’t win anything Kareem’s last season, yet they took the time to honor a player that had done great for them.

    The Lakers should have led the league in honoring Kobe this year. We didn’t get to honor MJ because it was unknown when he would retire. We didn’t get to honor Magic because he left in surprise. But Kobe could be honored right now.

  • Are you a sports management PhD?
    no. you are a hack on a forum just like the rest of us.

    You have no capacity or ability to judge or speak about how to groom a young player, mature them into a veteran or what is (or isn’t) the best way to help their ascension.

    All you have is a baseless opinion.

    You don’t agree with the methods of the team. We get it. It’s their team, and *maybe* paid professionals know more than you…..

  • Are you a sports management PhD?
    no. you are a hack on a forum just like the rest of us.

    You have no capacity or ability to judge or speak about how to groom a young player, mature them into a veteran or what is (or isn’t) the best way to help their ascension.

    All you have is a baseless opinion.

    You don’t agree with the methods of the team. We get it. It’s not YOUR team, and *maybe* paid professionals know more than you…..

  • Why does “developing the young players” have to be considered an all or nothing deal? People keep acting like the only way to develop the young players is to play them a lot of minutes. Why? Where has that been identified as the correct formula? You can’t build up the young players and still win and have veterans involved in that formula?

  • Why does “developing the young players” have to be considered an all or nothing deal? People keep acting like the only way to develop the young players is to play them a lot of minutes. Why? Where has that been identified as the correct formula? You can’t build up the young players and still win and have veterans involved in that formula?

  • Yes it is….

    They continue to say that honoring Kobe is all Byron is thinking about.

  • To his self, not by the LAKESR FANS, I don’t HATE KOBE I have been watching him for so many years and was in ah of him but what he is doing to his self now is the way a lot of fans will see him , that’s the sad part, he ie is hurting his self and I don’t like it how he is going out.

  • Yes it is….

    They continue to say that honoring Kobe is all Byron is thinking about.

  • To his self, not by the LAKESR FANS, I don’t HATE KOBE I have been watching him for so many years and was in ah of him but what he is doing to his self now is the way a lot of fans will see him , that’s the sad part, he ie is hurting his self and I don’t like it how he is going out.

  • It’s not an all or nothing deal, but the more they play the faster they develop. We aren’t in a position to slowly develop players “we are bad”, we need them to develop as fast as possible.

  • It’s not an all or nothing deal, but the more they play the faster they develop. We aren’t in a position to slowly develop players “we are bad”, we need them to develop as fast as possible.

  • Fast and Develop clearly are contradictory statements. If you want the team to be great quickly, development should not have been the way to go at all.

  • Fast and Develop clearly are contradictory statements. If you want the team to be great quickly, development should not have been the way to go at all.

  • Kobe himself felt he was held back in his development by riding the pine. He constantly says Russell will only get better through playing time.

  • Kobe’s the best player on the team as of today.
    When someone else can play better than Kobe, then he should sit on the bench.

    Until then, Kobe’s the best player on the team and at SF.

  • GET LOST if you don’t understand what I post you will never know, you did not have the time or interest to under stand a word I wrote.

  • Kobe himself felt he was held back in his development by riding the pine. He constantly says Russell will only get better through playing time.

  • Kobe’s the best player on the team as of today.
    When someone else can play better than Kobe, then he should sit on the bench.

    Until then, Kobe’s the best player on the team and at SF.

  • GET LOST if you don’t understand what I post you will never know, you did not have the time or interest to under stand a word I wrote.

  • Not true. The Lakers could have made some trades on draft night that would have totally made the team competitive now. However, their ceiling would have been just making the playoffs and they are instead hoping to put themselves in position to be great again soon.

  • Not true. The Lakers could have made some trades on draft night that would have totally made the team competitive now. However, their ceiling would have been just making the playoffs and they are instead hoping to put themselves in position to be great again soon.

  • Yes really. Sometimes, it is okay to be subjective. It’s called being human.

  • Yes really. Sometimes, it is okay to be subjective. It’s called being human.

  • Really? Do you mean physically, mentally, his image? What do you mean?

    Is Tiger Woods hurting himself to continue coming back to golf?

  • Really? Do you mean physically, mentally, his image? What do you mean?

    Is Tiger Woods hurting himself to continue coming back to golf?

  • Is this a playoff team as constructed? If your answer is no, then how is he hurting them?

  • What trade is that? And at what cost to the future. Rookie contracts are extremely favorable to the teams that draft them. And resigning players who own the rights to offers so much more leverage.

  • Is this a playoff team as constructed? If your answer is no, then how is he hurting them?

  • What trade is that? And at what cost to the future. Rookie contracts are extremely favorable to the teams that draft them. And resigning players you own the rights to offers so much more leverage.

  • Kobe might believe he can still go for 50 on a good night. Are you really using him as your argument?

  • Kobe might believe he can still go for 50 on a good night. Are you really using him as your argument?

  • LMAO I have no problem with Kobe’s belief in himself. I respect that. That does not mean the physical results of farther time should be ignored.

  • LMAO I have no problem with Kobe’s belief in himself. I respect that. That does not mean the physical results of farther time should be ignored.

  • Seems to me like Russell, Clarkson, and Randle get more playing time than Kobe and are getting starters minutes.

    So, who is Kobe holding back?
    Kelly? ABrown?

    I’m not sure how Kobe holds back 2 guards or the PF, when he’s a SF and standing on the wing?

    They all are on the court at the same time. And if they wanted they could take a shot instead of passing to Kobe.

    It seems like you want to make a 2nd round draft pick an all star and believe that 2 subpar players will get better with playing time. (How did Kelly do last year with 20 minutes a night? Did he help the team? Did it help him?)

    Get a competent or reliable solution at SF and then you have an argument, but until then, it’s really hard to accept that Kobe standing in the corner is stunting the growth of the other guys or a guy (ABrown) who the coach doesn’t even let suit up.

  • Seems to me like Russell, Clarkson, and Randle get more playing time than Kobe and are getting starters minutes.

    So, who is Kobe holding back?
    Kelly? ABrown?

    I’m not sure how Kobe holds back 2 guards or the PF, when he’s a SF and standing on the wing?

    They all are on the court at the same time. And if they wanted they could take a shot instead of passing to Kobe.

    It seems like you want to make a 2nd round draft pick an all star and believe that 2 subpar players will get better with playing time. (How did Kelly do last year with 20 minutes a night? Did he help the team? Did it help him?)

    Get a competent or reliable solution at SF and then you have an argument, but until then, it’s really hard to accept that Kobe standing in the corner is stunting the growth of the other guys or a guy (ABrown) who the coach doesn’t even let suit up.

  • Do you even pay attention to what’s being said before jumping in all butt hurt in Kobe defense mode?

  • Do you even pay attention to what’s being said before jumping in all butt hurt in Kobe defense mode?

  • The moment I said win now…the whole “cost to the future” doesn’t apply. I think that was the whole point I was making.

  • The moment I said win now…the whole “cost to the future” doesn’t apply. I think that was the whole point I was making.

  • What does Kobe’s development 20 years ago have to do with Russell the team’s STARTING PG, Clarkson the team’s STARTING SG, or Randle the teams STARTING PF? Maybe you haven’t been following along but Kobe’s a SF this year.

    If you think that Kobe is stunting the growth of ABrown, you are overselling a 2nd round pick. He shouldn’t be starting regardless.

    So maybe the team should start Kelly?… just because?

  • My point was that, you can’t use him as an argument for how young players can feel held back. Kobe is different.

  • What does Kobe’s development 20 years ago have to do with Russell the team’s STARTING PG, Clarkson the team’s STARTING SG, or Randle the teams STARTING PF? Maybe you haven’t been following along but Kobe’s a SF this year.

    If you think that Kobe is stunting the growth of ABrown, you are overselling a 2nd round pick. He shouldn’t be starting regardless.

    So maybe the team should start Kelly?… just because?

  • My point was that, you can’t use him as an argument for how young players can feel held back. Kobe is different.

  • My idea is to start Metta. Adds toughness, energy and doesn’t shoot 19 times per game.

  • Metta isn’t old? Funny how Metta is the same guy that people wanted the Lakers to make a coach and not play instead for J Brown. Funny how things change.

  • My idea is to start Metta. Adds toughness, energy and doesn’t shoot 19 times per game.

  • Metta isn’t old? Funny how Metta is the same guy that people wanted the Lakers to make a coach and not play instead for J Brown. Funny how things change.

  • So what trade do you make? You still have Kobe here stinking up the joint and no cap space. If you trade our future for say a Cousins. You are stuck with Kobe and Cousins.. Still suck.

  • Where did I say anything about Kobe stunting the youth growth in that first comment?

    You way off into emotional tangents that have nothing to do with what was said in this convo. This is the problem.

  • So what trade do you make? You still have Kobe here stinking up the joint and no cap space. If you trade our future for say a Cousins. You are stuck with Kobe and Cousins.. Still suck.

  • Where did I say anything about Kobe stunting the youth growth in that first comment?

    You way off into emotional tangents that have nothing to do with what was said in this convo. This is the problem.

  • Metta is old for sure, but he still provides the intangibles, and also is willing to take that lesser role. Metta would happily let Russell, Clarkson, Randle be the primary scorers.

  • That’s a valid argument…..
    I’ve thought the same, but then i realize we’re talking about Kobe Bryant and pissing off the entire Lakers Fanbase and every person who bought a ticket in a different city to say goodbye to Kobe.

    But, you are right, it could be argued that Metta is a better SF solution than Kobe. And I’m surprised Scott hasn’t experimented (yet?).

  • Metta is old for sure, but he still provides the intangibles, and also is willing to take that lesser role. Metta would happily let Russell, Clarkson, Randle be the primary scorers.

  • That’s a valid argument…..
    I’ve thought the same, but then i realize we’re talking about Kobe Bryant and pissing off the entire Lakers Fanbase and every person who bought a ticket in a different city to say goodbye to Kobe.

    But, you are right, it could be argued that Metta is a better SF solution than Kobe. And I’m surprised Scott hasn’t experimented (yet?).

  • There is a poll on this site asking if Kobe should sit games. 70% say yes. I think you are overselling the Kobe fanatics compared to the actual Lakers fans.

  • There is a poll on this site asking if Kobe should sit games. 70% say yes. I think you are overselling the Kobe fanatics compared to the actual Lakers fans.

  • Kobe does not share your sentiment. He’s constantly speaking of how Russell is different also.

  • Kobe does not share your sentiment. He’s constantly speaking of how Russell is different also.

  • So what exactly are you arguing or complaining about with Kobe then?

    Sure seems like you are continuing your well established “kobe needs to go” stance and “we need to develop the youth at all costs” rhetoric and trying to twist your words…

  • He wasn’t complaining about Kobe, just pointing out that playing time is vital in development.

  • So what exactly are you arguing or complaining about with Kobe then?

    Sure seems like you are continuing your well established “kobe needs to go” stance and “we need to develop the youth at all costs” rhetoric and trying to twist your words…

  • He wasn’t complaining about Kobe, just pointing out that playing time is vital in development.

  • Pay attention to the person words who I replied to and get out of your emotions. Nothing about my comment was a complaint with Kobe.

  • Metta isn’t a scorer…first point.
    Metta playing would take minutes away from someone, right? Contradicts the statement that development is tied to minutes.

  • Pay attention to the person words who I replied to and get out of your emotions. Nothing about my comment was a complaint with Kobe.

  • Metta isn’t a scorer…first point.
    Metta playing would take minutes away from someone, right? Contradicts the statement that development is tied to minutes.

  • You don’t watch games if you think Russell is getting the same minutes as any of those players

  • You don’t watch games if you think Russell is getting the same minutes as any of those players

  • Kobe doesn’t share my sentiment? Did you even understand me sentiment? Russell isn’t different.

  • Obviously, Kobe shouldn’y play 82 games. He’s an old man. We’ve learned that we need to protect Kobe from himself.

    Resting Kobe some nights has nothing to do with benching him and giving him 15 minutes a night just to develop ABrown or Kelly.

  • Kobe doesn’t share my sentiment? Did you even understand me sentiment? Russell isn’t different.

  • Obviously, Kobe shouldn’y play 82 games. He’s an old man. We’ve learned that we need to protect Kobe from himself.

    Resting Kobe some nights has nothing to do with benching him and giving him 15 minutes a night just to develop ABrown or Kelly.

  • When I go to the Lakers games now, I am excited to see the future of the team. Russell, Randle, Clarkson. When Byron sat Randle at Staples the crowd erupted in Randle chants to get him back in the game.

    For many years we were blessed by the greatness Kobe provided on the court. It was amazing, but now it is time for the new talent. If you want to see the greatness of Kobe, go to YouTube, you won’t find it on a basketball court.

  • When I go to the Lakers games now, I am excited to see the future of the team. Russell, Randle, Clarkson. When Byron sat Randle at Staples the crowd erupted in Randle chants to get him back in the game.

    For many years we were blessed by the greatness Kobe provided on the court. It was amazing, but now it is time for the new talent. If you want to see the greatness of Kobe, go to YouTube, you won’t find it on a basketball court.

  • So, since you have exhausted your argument you now resort to name calling?

  • So, since you have exhausted your argument you now resort to name calling?

  • Russell has averaged 25 minutes or more in every game so far.

    And maybe YOU haven’t watched any of the games if you think the Russell is starting caliber. If he weren’t a #2 draft pick, he’d be riding the pine. He’s just not good enough yet and truthfully shouldn’t be starting….. but he is given some starting minutes and being given the opportunity to improve and earn more quality minutes.

  • Russell has averaged 25 minutes or more in every game so far.

    And maybe YOU haven’t watched any of the games if you think the Russell is starting caliber. If he weren’t a #2 draft pick, he’d be riding the pine. He’s just not good enough yet and truthfully shouldn’t be starting….. but he is given some starting minutes and being given the opportunity to improve and earn more quality minutes.

  • It would make the minutes for Russell, Randle, Clarkson more meaningful. Plus it would open up a spot in the rotation for a young guy to take Metta’s bench minutes.

  • Funny,
    You can’t win an argument with words and logic, so you have to pout and resort to the lowest methods of lashing out and responding.

    Maybe after nap time, you can have some cookies.

  • It would make the minutes for Russell, Randle, Clarkson more meaningful. Plus it would open up a spot in the rotation for a young guy to take Metta’s bench minutes.

  • Funny,
    You can’t win an argument with words and logic, so you have to pout and resort to the lowest methods of lashing out and responding.

    Maybe after nap time, you can have some cookies.

  • We just got rid of Clarkson, Randle, Russell and Nance to get Cousins. No guarantees Durant is walking through that door. Cousins has had better talent in Sac and done nothing.

  • Russell has openly complained about not being given a fair shake at proving himself the same as Kobe did. Now Russell is not being forced onto the pine like Kobe was but Del let Kobe actually finish games even though he came off the bench. Differences, yes but the same feeling of being held back.

  • We just got rid of Clarkson, Randle, Russell and Nance to get Cousins. No guarantees Durant is walking through that door. Cousins has had better talent in Sac and done nothing.

  • Russell has openly complained about not being given a fair shake at proving himself the same as Kobe did. Now Russell is not being forced onto the pine like Kobe was but Del let Kobe actually finish games even though he came off the bench. Differences, yes but the same feeling of being held back.

  • Your words betray you. You said Russell is not being forced to the pine like Kobe was….but also say that he isn’t getting a fair shake like Kobe did?

  • Your words betray you. You said Russell is not being forced to the pine like Kobe was….but also say that he isn’t getting a fair shake like Kobe did?

  • Frustrated yes…but saying he’s getting unfair treatment different from what Kobe received as young player?

  • Frustrated yes…but saying he’s getting unfair treatment different from what Kobe received as young player?

  • Huh?

    I see you conveniently ignored this part “Differences, yes but the same feeling of being held back.”

  • Huh?

    I see you conveniently ignored this part “Differences, yes but the same feeling of being held back.”

  • That doesn’t mean that they are not getting any meaningful minutes. If he was at 100% then you may have an argument.

  • That doesn’t mean that they are not getting any meaningful minutes. If he was at 100% then you may have an argument.

  • D League

    You just described the NBA’s answer to “Developmental” players, such as D’Angelo –

    D’Lo’s wheels are on (imo for the next eight yrs, if that), go to D League with Training wheels, then in year 2023, begin to take off

  • D League

    You just described the NBA’s answer to “Developmental” players, such as D’Angelo –

    D’Lo’s training wheels are on (imo for the next eight yrs, if that, probably longer), go to D League with Training wheels on, then

    in year 2023, begin to take off

  • That’s not what you said. You said it would make their minutes more meaningful. I asked how.

  • That’s not what you said. You said it would make their minutes more meaningful. I asked how.

  • But that doesn’t mean 35 minutes a night! You have 82 games….you don’t get full development in one.

    You guys act like there isn’t practice, off season, and game to game development. You don’t have to try to develop a guy all in one game. That’s what the whole season is for. By the end of the season he could be playing 40 minutes a night….give it time.

  • But that doesn’t mean 35 minutes a night! You have 82 games….you don’t get full development in one.

    You guys act like there isn’t practice, off season, and game to game development. You don’t have to try to develop a guy all in one game. That’s what the whole season is for. By the end of the season he could be playing 40 minutes a night….give it time.

  • Obviously it would make their usage rate go up and be more meaningful. Does that really need to be explained?

  • Obviously it would make their usage rate go up and be more meaningful. Does that really need to be explained?

  • The meaningful part does. I still don’t see what you are using to measure meaningfulness. Some would say riding the pine on a championship team is more meaningful than playing 45 minutes on a lottery team. See my point. Meaningfulness needs to be clarified.

  • The meaningful part does. I still don’t see what you are using to measure meaningfulness. Some would say riding the pine on a championship team is more meaningful than playing 45 minutes on a lottery team. See my point. Meaningfulness needs to be clarified.

  • Meaningful as in they are being used in those minutes. Standing around watching Kobe is the same as sitting on the bench.

  • Meaningful as in they are being used in those minutes. Standing around watching Kobe is the same as sitting on the bench.

  • Teams can honor Kobe before the game with Slideshows of his past accomplishments against them and he can bow and they can cheer or boo. No reason to make him go out there and embarrass himself.

  • Teams can honor Kobe before the game with Slideshows of his past accomplishments against them and he can bow and they can cheer or boo. No reason to make him go out there and embarrass himself.

  • I agree but I’m not asking for Kobe to go away quietly into the night. I have no problem with Kobe having a farewell tour. My thing is don’t do it at the cost of developing the youth. Kobe fans see honoring Kobe as first priority, SMH. developing the next generation is the priority, period. Kareem was sent off on a team that was competitive. The constant comparison is not valid simply because he was in such a diminished role that final season. KAJ had long accepted a lesser role. Even if KAJ was on a lesser team he still would have been in that lesser role just like KG or Paul P in Washington. The norm for aging superstars is that lesser role in grooming the youth. This is what Kobe fans can’t seem to comprehend.

  • I agree but I’m not asking for Kobe to go away quietly into the night. I have no problem with Kobe having a farewell tour. My thing is don’t do it at the cost of developing the youth. Kobe fans see honoring Kobe as first priority, SMH. developing the next generation is the priority, period. Kareem was sent off on a team that was competitive. The constant comparison is not valid simply because he was in such a diminished role that final season. KAJ had long accepted a lesser role. Even if KAJ was on a lesser team he still would have been in that lesser role just like KG or Paul P in Washington. The norm for aging superstars is that lesser role in grooming the youth. This is what Kobe fans can’t seem to comprehend.

  • Very true and plus Kareem was still playing decently. He wasn’t himself but he was not terrible.

  • Very true and plus Kareem was still playing decently. He wasn’t himself but he was not terrible.

  • First, I can’t get the whole Kobe fans term. I’m a Lakers fan. I was here before Kobe….way before….and I’ll be here after. Because I value a guy that has been here 20 years and won’t come down on him now especially in light of the hurdles he is trying to overcome for one final great moment, doesn’t make me a fan boy or any other term you guys use.

    Kareem, to your point, had already experienced what it means to be in a lesser role. Kobe never had that moment to fall back on now. He has never not been the star.

    Paul Pierce nor KG were ever considered the best at their position at any point in their career, so they are not in the same situation as Kobe.

  • First, I can’t get the whole Kobe fans term. I’m a Lakers fan. I was here before Kobe….way before….and I’ll be here after. Because I value a guy that has been here 20 years and won’t come down on him now especially in light of the hurdles he is trying to overcome for one final great moment, doesn’t make me a fan boy or any other term you guys use.

    Kareem, to your point, had already experienced what it means to be in a lesser role. Kobe never had that moment to fall back on now. He has never not been the star.

    Paul Pierce nor KG were ever considered the best at their position at any point in their career, so they are not in the same situation as Kobe.

  • Any pro player will tell you real development is in real game experience. Practice and all of that other stuff is just preparation for the looming PT development.

    I’m not asking for set MPG. I’m saying give him a chance to prove himself like his peers are on lotto teams like ours. Top 5 picks are not slow groomed anymore. Never really have been if we keep it real. They are expected to come in and contribute right away.

  • No way??? I love how you guys think you know stuff that clearly you don’t. Instead of saying, “I believe.” You adamantly state things like they are fact.

  • Any pro player will tell you real development is in real game experience. Practice and all of that other stuff is just preparation for the looming PT development.

    I’m not asking for set MPG. I’m saying give him a chance to prove himself like his peers are on lotto teams like ours. Top 5 picks are not slow groomed anymore. Never really have been if we keep it real. They are expected to come in and contribute right away.

  • No way??? I love how you guys think you know stuff that clearly you don’t. Instead of saying, “I believe.” You adamantly state things like they are fact.

  • He said himself, he is the 200’th best player and that it is embarrassing. Straight from the horses mouth.

  • He said himself, he is the 200’th best player and that it is embarrassing. Straight from the horses mouth.

  • I never saw “embarrassing” in his statement. I’ll go pull the article.

  • I never saw “embarrassing” in his statement. I’ll go pull the article.

  • Still…embarrassing was not in his quote. You said embarrassed. I would have agreed with you if you had said sucks.

  • Like Allen Iverson? Anybody that discounts practice and acts like the game is the place for development doesn’t understand development at all. The game is where you show what you have learned.

  • Still…embarrassing was not in his quote. You said embarrassed. I would have agreed with you if you had said sucks.

  • Like Allen Iverson? Anybody that discounts practice and acts like the game is the place for development doesn’t understand development at all. The game is where you show what you have learned.

  • Kobe had to accept a lesser role his first three seasons. Even as Kobe ascended with Phil and the Lake Show he still was second to Shaq.

    Paul P is an all-time great and will be in the HOF. KG is arguably a top PF in NBA history. Level of greatness, really?

    Some of us are not down talking Kobe just giving an honest assessment of where he is in his career and how we’re ready for the next generation. Giving all of the recent losing, missing out on top free agents and lack of youth development since our last championship, many are and have been starving for the next.

    Again, Kobe is well respected and his legacy is cemented, and no ones trying to downplay or diminish that. It’s just time for forward thinking…

  • Kobe had to accept a lesser role his first three seasons. Even as Kobe ascended with Phil and the Lake Show he still was second to Shaq.

    Paul P is an all-time great and will be in the HOF. KG is arguably a top PF in NBA history. Level of greatness, really?

    Some of us are not down talking Kobe just giving an honest assessment of where he is in his career and how we’re ready for the next generation. Giving all of the recent losing, missing out on top free agents and lack of youth development since our last championship, many are and have been starving for the next.

    Again, Kobe is well respected and his legacy is cemented, and no one’s trying to downplay or diminish that. It’s just time for forward thinking as we send off a legend.

  • So only critical assessments of Kobe are honest. Positive comments are automatically meaning that somebody is a fan boy?

  • So only critical assessments of Kobe are honest. Positive comments are automatically meaning that somebody is a fan boy?

  • When those positive comments are ones that are eff the future, this season is all about Kobe, YES.

  • When those positive comments are ones that are eff the future, this season is all about Kobe, YES.

  • When you see a player of Wade’s stature speak so highly of Kobe and show that level of respect for what he’s done for the game, it should teach a nobody like you a little something about respect for greatness. Don’t be a disrespectful punk.

  • The sad part is, you can say something positive about Kobe but if you’ve ever said anything to the contrary, fan boys lose it and label you a Kobe hater, ignoring anything positive you’ve said.

  • That’s not a comment I have made. All I have said is that you can do both.

  • Sound familiar? Is doing the same thing to posters and calling them fan boys any different?

  • When you see a player of Wade’s stature speak so highly of Kobe and show that level of respect for what he’s done for the game, it should teach a nobody like you a little something about respect for greatness. Don’t be a disrespectful punk.

  • The sad part is, you can say something positive about Kobe but if you’ve ever said anything to the contrary, fan boys lose it and label you a Kobe hater, ignoring anything positive you’ve said.

  • That’s not a comment I have made. All I have said is that you can do both.

  • Sound familiar? Is doing the same thing to posters and calling them fan boys any different?

  • There is no argument you sound lame period. Look around I’m not the only one that noticed how pathetic you sound

  • Unfortunately the convo goes left due to folks being in their feelings VS. level headed thinking. I never throw out that term less provoked.

  • There is no argument you sound lame period. Look around I’m not the only one that noticed how pathetic you sound

  • Unfortunately the convo goes left due to folks being in their feelings VS. level headed thinking. I never throw out that term less provoked.

  • Wade says “The Kobe Bryants aren’t around no more” so even he admits Kobe is gone.

  • Wade says “The Kobe Bryants aren’t around no more” so even he admits Kobe is gone.

  • There’s nothing like NBA game play experience. Every player will tell you this Many players are practice squad warriors that never manifest into superstars let alone above average starters.. Even the ultimate workaholic, Kobe Bryant lives by this. Kobe himself wants as much PT as possible and always did. Any player who is striving for greatness is.

    Again, practice is preparation/simulation for game day.

  • There’s nothing like NBA game play experience. Every player will tell you this Many players are practice squad warriors that never manifest into superstars let alone above average starters.. Even the ultimate workaholic, Kobe Bryant lives by this. Kobe himself wants as much PT as possible and always did. Any player who is striving for greatness is.

    Again, practice is preparation/simulation for game day.

  • I don’t disagree with that. Here’s the thing though…where is the hunger with Russell? I don’t see the drive that I see with Randle or Clarkson.

  • I don’t disagree with that. Here’s the thing though…where is the hunger with Russell? I don’t see the drive that I see with Randle or Clarkson.

  • That’s what you take from his statement. And you wonder why people come back at you???

  • That’s what you take from his statement. And you wonder why people come back at you???

  • That’s your assesment and it’s a fair one. I don’t agree. I see Russell wanting it but struggling with the higher level of game right now. Every game he has improved. Scott says cut down on the mistakes. Russell has very few turnovers as a ball handler.

    It’s well established Scott prefers playing vets. IMO, the only reason Russell is getting burn from Scott is because the franchise is vested in him as the future. I kinda find that hypocritical of Scott as he was thrust into the fire right away and did the same for Kyrie and CP3.

  • That’s your assesment and it’s a fair one. I don’t agree. I see Russell wanting it but struggling with the higher level of game right now. Every game he has improved. Scott says cut down on the mistakes. Russell has very few turnovers as a ball handler.

    It’s well established Scott prefers playing vets. Especially as Lakers HC. IMO, the only reason Russell is getting burn from Scott is because the franchise is vested in him as the future. I kinda find that hypocritical of Scott as he was thrust into the fire right away and did the same for Kyrie and CP3.

  • Be careful with the turnover stat. The less you have the ball in your hand, the less you will turn it over.

    It is 6 games in and Byron has the guy starting all 6 of those games. He is playing over 20 minutes a night. What do you want?

  • Be careful with the turnover stat. The less you have the ball in your hand, the less you will turn it over.

    It is 6 games in and Byron has the guy starting all 6 of those games. He is playing over 20 minutes a night. What do you want?

  • I expect him to be given the same platform as all of the other top five picks around the league.

  • WTF has LN filter found now??? Ha ha, Wade knows that if he says anything bad about Kobe he will awaken the sleeping giant. He prefers facing struggling Kobe tonight.

  • I expect him to be given the same platform as all of the other top five picks around the league.

  • WTF has LN filter found now??? Ha ha, Wade knows that if he says anything bad about Kobe he will awaken the sleeping giant. He prefers facing struggling Kobe tonight.

  • Unbelievable! The filter stopped my post beacuse of the short version of “he will”. Wow…

  • Unbelievable! The filter stopped my post beacuse of the short version of “he will”. Wow…

  • And he is. He is starting for the LA Lakers as a rookie. Since when is a rookie starting in this league a given?

  • And he is. He is starting for the LA Lakers as a rookie. Since when is a rookie starting in this league a given?

  • We’ll disagree on this. I’m looking at role and usage. Look at Towns, Mudiay and Kristap? They are in much bigger roles. Mudiay is turning the ball over like crazy. Even Magic did as a rookie.

    Top 5 picks starting has pretty much been a given all along. Not starting is the rarity.

  • We’ll disagree on this. I’m looking at role and usage. Look at Towns, Mudiay and Kristap? They are in much bigger roles. Mudiay is turning the ball over like crazy. Even Magic did as a rookie.

    Top 5 picks starting has pretty much been a given all along. Not starting is the rarity.

  • I’ll give you that, but complaining about playing 25 minutes versus 35 minutes is a little much. Plus, give Byron some credit. He went to Clarkson last year while still having other options ahead of him.

    If Russell develops, he will play.

  • I’ll give you that, but complaining about playing 25 minutes versus 35 minutes is a little much. Plus, give Byron some credit. He went to Clarkson last year while still having other options ahead of him.

    If Russell develops, he will play.

  • Injury and Scott beefing with Lin is the only reason he went to JC. Let’s keep it real man.

  • Injury and Scott beefing with Lin is the only reason he went to JC. Let’s keep it real man.

  • The fact is that he played him…And Clarkson was a second round pick. You make it sound like Russell isn’t playing. He is playing. You want him to play more, I get that. But be fair…he has to demand more time by playing well in practice AND the game.

  • The fact is that he played him…And Clarkson was a second round pick. You make it sound like Russell isn’t playing. He is playing. You want him to play more, I get that. But be fair…he has to demand more time by playing well in practice AND the game.

  • What part of him improving is not happening? Of practice, all we hear and heard is how great Russell is and how mature he is. How he sees the court or how he makes everyone’s job easier in practice. JC recently credited Russell for his career high. Kobe constantly says how Russell gets him the ball in good places for him to score.

    Where is the disconnect? I’d say in Scott’s head/pride.

  • What part of him improving is not happening? Of practice, all we hear and heard is how great Russell is and how mature he is. How he sees the court or how he makes everyone’s job easier in practice. JC recently credited Russell for his career high. Kobe constantly says how Russell gets him the ball in good places for him to score.

    Where is the disconnect? I’d say in Scott’s head/pride.

  • But we’re talking about 6 games. It takes a little longer than 6 games. “Maturity” is relative. It’s based on expectations for that person. He is probably mature, but that is relative to what he could be. It’s not a disconnect. It’s a time thing. My problem is that if B Scott were to play him a lot of minutes and some how he begins to regress, people are going to blame him for not bringing him along slow enough. Give him time. You are wanting so much and so quick to pass judgement on a moving target. There is plenty of time for him to grow.

  • But we’re talking about 6 games. It takes a little longer than 6 games. “Maturity” is relative. It’s based on expectations for that person. He is probably mature, but that is relative to what he could be. It’s not a disconnect. It’s a time thing. My problem is that if B Scott were to play him a lot of minutes and some how he begins to regress, people are going to blame him for not bringing him along slow enough. Give him time. You are wanting so much and so quick to pass judgement on a moving target. There is plenty of time for him to grow.

  • Baseless opinion? Yet my opinion is one that’s widely been used the majority of the time since the beginning of this game when it comes to aging stars grooming youth. We can look as far as this great franchise and see it dating back to the beginning. You just don’t want to accept the reality because it conflicts with your all things Kobe agenda.

  • Baseless opinion? Yet my opinion is one that’s widely been used the majority of the time since the beginning of this game when it comes to aging stars grooming youth. We can look as far as this great franchise and see it dating back to the beginning. You just don’t want to accept the reality because it conflicts with your all things Kobe agenda.

  • Limited sample size, but Larry Nance, Jr. has the best on-court defensive rating on the Lakers. That should definitely earn him more minutes.

  • Limited sample size, but Larry Nance, Jr. has the best on-court defensive rating on the Lakers. That should definitely earn him more minutes.

  • When a person in a prominent position announces his or her retirement in advance, the employer begins to think forward in finding a replacement. Kobe in his prime cannot be replaced. Kobe the legend even diminished in his skills cannot be replaced in the hearts of almost all Lakers fans. Magic has never been replaced or supplanted. This does not mean the next generation needs to be on hold for the old guard.

    I enjoyed the small success of the Late Show for the excitement of the potential rebirth of the team post Showtime. I see this young group as the same. Kobe’s era is over and has been for a few years now. Honoring him is fine but we must be proactive in what’s next…

  • When a person in a prominent position announces his or her retirement in advance, the employer begins to think forward in finding a replacement. Kobe in his prime cannot be replaced. Kobe the legend even diminished in his skills cannot be replaced in the hearts of almost all Lakers fans. Magic has never been replaced or supplanted. This does not mean the next generation needs to be on hold for the old guard.

    I enjoyed the small success of the Late Show for the excitement of the potential rebirth of the team post Showtime. I see this young group as the same. Kobe’s era is over and has been for a few years now. Honoring him is fine but we must be proactive in what’s next…

  • arguing is for women, whats there to argue about? you and a few other kobetarts are annoying period, look around other people have also noticed how stupid you sound in all your comments

  • arguing is for women, whats there to argue about? you and a few other kobetarts are annoying period, look around other people have also noticed how stupid you sound in all your comments

  • Pretty much. Kobe, KG, Prince, Pierce are still hanging in there. Or trying to.

  • Pretty much. Kobe, KG, Prince, Pierce are still hanging in there. Or trying to.

  • Sink or swim, that is the plight and right of a top five pick. Again, this is the norm and Scott is resisting that with a team the really has no better option at the PG spot. You could easily make a case for Nelson to start over Mudiay in Denver. Jameer is a proven vet who helped lead a team through the playoffs and into the NBA finals. Yet the Nuggets are allow Mudiay to go throw the growing pains full tilt.

    You can’t worry about regression as it will happen if said player is not the one, whether you slow groom or put them into the fire. Cream rises to the top.

  • Sink or swim, that is the plight and right of a top five pick. Again, this is the norm and Scott is resisting that with a team the really has no better option at the PG spot. You could easily make a case for Nelson to start over Mudiay in Denver. Jameer is a proven vet who helped lead a team through the playoffs and into the NBA finals. Yet the Nuggets are allowing Mudiay to go throw the growing pains full tilt.

    You can’t worry about regression as it will happen if said player is not the one, whether you slow groom or put them into the fire. Cream rises to the top.

  • Yeah I knew he would be good since the summer league, I think Scott was punishing Nance for the tweet he made about Kobe though

  • Yeah I knew he would be good since the summer league, I think Scott was punishing Nance for the tweet he made about Kobe though

  • Its not a argument , if I thought you had enough brains to be able to understand I would try to help you with your problem, so there is really no sense talking to you only a DOCTOR could be of use, but I think he would not have enough time to save you.

  • Its not a argument , if I thought you had enough brains to be able to understand I would try to help you with your problem, so there is really no sense talking to you only a DOCTOR could be of use, but I think he would not have enough time to save you.

  • what’s the problem has she taken your place next to KOBE, GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS stand up you were there first.

  • what’s the problem has she taken your place next to KOBE, GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS stand up you were there first.

  • Your the only one calling out HATE, HAVE YOU NOTHING BETTER THEN THAT TO SAY, YOU NEVER HAVE ANY THING TO SAY THAT IS POSITIVE for a GIRL you should have something better then that.

  • Your the only one calling out HATE, HAVE YOU NOTHING BETTER THEN THAT TO SAY, YOU NEVER HAVE ANY THING TO SAY THAT IS POSITIVE for a GIRL you should have something better then that.

  • one of the best moments of the 2010 finals was Wade saying “damn!” after Kobe made a DEEEEEEEPP 3

  • one of the best moments of the 2010 finals was Wade saying “damn!” after Kobe made a DEEEEEEEPP 3

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