Five Biggest Takeaways From 2015-16 Lakers Preseason So Far
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Each week, we’ll take a look at the five biggest takeaways from the Los Angeles Lakers. Whether tracking the success of the rookies and young players, discussing the highs and lows of the season or simply pointing out a key statistic or trend that you otherwise may not have considered, we’ll try to provide an in-depth look at the team throughout the season.

1. Julius Randle is good and has the potential to be REALLY good. Whether you agree with Kobe Bryant’s assessment that he is essentially the equivalent of a ‘Dr. Frankenstein’ mixture of “Lamar Odom in Zach Randolph’s body,” the thing most evident about Randle is that he is a clearly a unique blend of power, agility and speed for someone of his size. We won’t get too far ahead of ourselves solely based off a few preseason performances, but we can certainly understand the excitement surrounding the 20-year-old given all the physical tools he’s already displaying.

Just as with rookie D’Angelo Russell, it will be important to have patience Randle throughout the early portion of the year as he continues to adjust to playing at this level, and as the rest of the league forces him to adapt to different types of defensive looks. The Lakers have a nice mix of veterans that should be able to offer guidance and support throughout the process; but most importantly, Randle and the other young players seem eager to learn all they can.

2. Kobe Bryant can still be effective on the offensive end, but his overall efficiency will depend upon how much he trusts Russell and Clarkson to act as the primary playmakers. The term “ball-dominant” and Bryant have been synonymous for years, but if these first preseason outings are any indication, it appears the 20th-year vet is at least open to the idea of allowing the offense to run through his young guards. Bryant is wise enough to know that even though he may still ‘have’ the ability to facilitate and create his own offense on a regular basis, life — especially at 37 and returning from another injury — is a lot easier when you can rely upon someone else to set you up.

We’ll still see plenty of Bryant operating with the ball in his hands, but you’d hope a majority of those touches where Bryant is looking to create come from inside the pinch post and preferably on the block. We’ve already seen several instances this preseason where Bryant was able to find a slashing Clarkson or rolling big man for easy buckets while operating out of the post. Hopefully, this trend is a sign of things to come.

3. Jordan Clarkson appears to be on a mission to prove his First Team All-Rookie selection was far from a fluke and had more to do with his desire to prove he belonged at this level than simply due to playing for an injury-riddled 21-win team down the stretch. Time will tell just how effective he can be, but you can already see his game reaping the benefits of what was reportedly a very active summer for Clarkson in terms of training.

While he looks far more comfortable on his outside shot, both in catch-and-shoot situations and off the dribble, he can really make a difference for a team that will need three-point shooting from its wing players if he can start knocking them down with regularity. Not coincidentally, that will also make him that much deadlier when he does decide to attack the rim; something we’ve seen more of from him thus far.

4. The Lakers have serious questions at the backup point guard position if veteran international player Marcelo Huertas doesn’t pan out. Now, chances are Huertas will make the roster, but the 32-year-old has been hampered by a sore hamstring (and visa issues) early on, the Lakers have shown they need a natural playmaker in the second unit in order to maintain offensive balance. Lou Williams is both capable and willing to generate offense, but is probably best served being paired with a natural distributor to shoulder a bulk of that load.

Three-point shooting combo guard Michael Frazier II is another option for reserve minutes at the point, but we have yet to see him act as a primary ball-handler in his limited time on the court. Much like Frazier, Jabari Brown’s status in terms of ultimately making the regular season roster is unknown at this point. Brown, to his credit, did fill in at the position down the stretch for last year’s depleted squad. As of now, aside from Williams’ willingness to serve in a hybrid role, none of the other reserve guards have done enough to set themselves apart from the group. The Lakers have to be hoping Huertas is able to do that once he’s able to return to action.

5. The backup center position remains a question for the coaching staff. After going with a combination of Tarik Black and Robert Sacre behind Roy Hibbert for the first couple preseason games, undrafted rookie Robert Upshaw finally got an opportunity to show what these past couple months of hard work have produced, and the 7’0″ project didn’t disappoint. Upshaw contested at the rim on the defensive end (two blocks, several shots adjusted) and managed to impress on the offensive end with a nice turnaround jumper that was actually defended well along the baseline and soft hands in receiving a pass in slight traffic before finishing on another basket.

If Upshaw continues to play well, it will be interesting to see if it ultimately comes down to a decision on Sacre or Black for a roster spot. Sacre has always been well-liked within the organization and is playing on the final year of a guaranteed contract while others like Black (non-guaranteed) and rookie roster hopeful Jonathan Holmes (partially guaranteed- $100,000) are likely in a position of really having to prove themselves over these next couple weeks of practice and five remaining preseason games in order to make this roster.

Lakers please… Get rid of Sacre

  • “The Lakers have serious questions at the backup point guard position if veteran international player Marcelo Huertas doesn’t pan out.”

    Russell or Clarkson can play PG with the bench unit if you stagger minutes correctly.

  • “The Lakers have serious questions at the backup point guard position if veteran international player Marcelo Huertas doesn’t pan out.”

    Russell or Clarkson can play PG with the bench unit if you stagger minutes correctly.

  • Will probably get a lot of hate for this. But I think I like Kelly as the backup 5. This comes with some caveat’s though. Only with a lineup that has Metta and Bass. Kelly is moving really well, shooting well and playing good help defense. Metta and Bass will be able to muscle the really big guys.

  • Will probably get a lot of hate for this. But I think I like Kelly as the backup 5. This comes with some caveat’s though. Only with a lineup that has Metta and Bass. Kelly is moving really well, shooting well and playing good help defense. Metta and Bass will be able to muscle the really big guys.

  • If Larry Sanders does indeed make a come back. I’d take a chance…

    Not too sure about the backup PG situation….

  • If Larry Sanders does indeed make a come back. I’d take a chance…

    Not too sure about the backup PG situation….

  • Metta, Bass are both solid vets. Not a bad backup front line considering our options.

  • Metta, Bass are both solid vets. Not a bad backup front line considering our options.

  • Metta is not a solid vet, he played poorly overseas last year and it’s a joke we even offered a contract. Bass is ok .. a slight upgrade from Boozer

  • Metta is not a solid vet, he played poorly overseas last year and it’s a joke we even offered a contract. Bass is ok .. a slight upgrade from Boozer

  • Randy you’re right. What is kind of intriguing me right now is Anthony Brown at the 3. Really keeping my eye out on him for the rest of pre-season. Russell running with Young and Lou Will was great although I think he ends up starting for sure.

  • Randy you’re right. What is kind of intriguing me right now is Anthony Brown at the 3. Really keeping my eye out on him for the rest of pre-season. Russell running with Young and Lou Will was great although I think he ends up starting for sure.

  • Randle looks like he could play the ball handler role as well. Kind of similar to how Cleveland uses Lebron to break down defenses as the primary ball handler.

  • Randle looks like he could play the ball handler role as well. Kind of similar to how Cleveland uses Lebron to break down defenses as the primary ball handler.

  • Thank you JABARI DAVIS, for setting a new precedence of positivity in an otherwise previously stagnant, negative, Lakers Nation website.

    Props to the author.

  • Thank you JABARI DAVIS, for setting a new precedence of positivity in an otherwise previously stagnant, negative, Lakers Nation website.

    Props to the author.

  • Agree. Russell can still start and play some with the bench guys if his minutes are staggered properly

  • Agree. Russell can still start and play some with the bench guys if his minutes are staggered properly

  • Upshaw made a couple good plays, wouldn’t say he earned a spot, but I think his potential is worth keeping him on the roster

  • Upshaw made a couple good plays, wouldn’t say he earned a spot, but I think his potential is worth keeping him on the roster

  • He’d come on a very small contract. Low risk, High reward? This guy was a beast when he wanted to play.

  • He is a work in progress. He will make the roster but play for the DFenders I would imagine.

  • He’d come on a very small contract. Low risk, High reward? This guy was a beast when he wanted to play.

  • He is a work in progress. He will make the roster but play for the DFenders I would imagine.

  • I don’t think the Lakers really need another low IQ Center. The guy is a foul machine who tries to block every shot regardless of if it’s a sensible idea. Obviously better than Sacre, but that is not saying much.

  • I don’t think the Lakers really need another low IQ Center. The guy is a foul machine who tries to block every shot regardless of if it’s a sensible idea. Obviously better than Sacre, but that is not saying much.

  • All we really have going for us is chemistry this year. I don’t think he is worth the risk. Especially when we already have Roy to be our defensive anchor.

  • All we really have going for us is chemistry this year. I don’t think he is worth the risk. Especially when we already have Roy to be our defensive anchor.

  • Upshaw will be the only undrafted rookie to make the team based on what we have seen so far. If one of the rookies made a big splash I could see them waiving Kelly or Sacre, but none of the undrafted guys have looked good enough to throw that money away.

    Plus, Kelly has looked really good.

  • Upshaw will be the only undrafted rookie to make the team based on what we have seen so far. If one of the rookies made a big splash I could see them waiving Kelly or Sacre, but none of the undrafted guys have looked good enough to throw that money away.

    Plus, Kelly has looked really good.

  • Lets ALL Lakers Fans applaud our vets for giving crucial development advice to our youngsters. Kobe, Hibbert, Louis, Metta, Bass, and the rest have been huge in helping catapult these youngsters success so far.

  • Lets ALL Lakers Fans applaud our vets for giving crucial development advice to our youngsters. Kobe, Hibbert, Louis, Metta, Bass, and the rest have been huge in helping catapult these youngsters success so far.

  • Yes but we need a better than Clarkson type of point guard to compete out here and we need Clarkson to be free to do what he can do.

    Thats why we need Huertas out there as soon as possible.

  • Yes but we need a better than Clarkson type of point guard to compete out here and we need Clarkson to be free to do what he can do.

    Thats why we need Huertas out there as soon as possible.

  • Ok, there is absolutely NO WAY that black gets cut for sacre. Has this author forgotten that black played over sacre basically the entire season last year?
    It is completely down to Upshaw and Sacre, but Black has one of the safer jobs on the team.

  • Yeah I agree. But for now Russell can play minutes with the bench unit. Clarkson Kobe Randle and Hibbert are good passers. Not saying Russell should come off bench, just saying to stagger his minutes accordingly

  • Ok, there is absolutely NO WAY that black gets cut for sacre. Has this author forgotten that black played over sacre basically the entire season last year?
    It is completely down to Upshaw and Sacre, but Black has one of the safer jobs on the team.

  • Yeah I agree. But for now Russell can play minutes with the bench unit. Clarkson Kobe Randle and Hibbert are good passers. Not saying Russell should come off bench, just saying to stagger his minutes accordingly

  • depends on whether Byron wants 3 legit 7 footers. The west does have some bigs you have to deal with

  • Have to agree, metta has looked terrible. I appreciate his work with Randle though.

  • Have to agree, metta has looked terrible. I appreciate his work with Randle though.

  • i really liked kelly for the last two years (even though he wasnt too productive) because you could see that he was a smart player. now that his body is getting to be faster and stronger, hes going to make much more of an impact.

  • WHAT!!!

    Who is better defensively than Metta, besides Hibbert, on our team.

    You will have us waiting a long time for a good answer.

  • i really liked kelly for the last two years (even though he wasnt too productive) because you could see that he was a smart player. now that his body is getting to be faster and stronger, hes going to make much more of an impact.

  • WHAT!!!

    Who shut down Gordon Hayward?

    Who is better defensively than Metta, besides Hibbert, on our team?

    You will have us waiting a long time for a good answer.

  • I noticed an obvious trend by BS letting Randle play point forward even while both Kobe n Clarkson were on court. He must’ve picked something from the playoffs play book with several teams letting forwards play the point. Huge mismatches when its run well. Seems so far it’s Randles preseason.

  • I noticed an obvious trend by BS letting Randle play point forward even while both Kobe n Clarkson were on court. He must’ve picked something from the playoffs play book with several teams letting forwards play the point. Huge mismatches when its run well. Seems so far it’s Randles preseason.

  • I’m very curious to see how Randle and Hibbert will play against a force like Cousins. That’s will be huge for us.

  • I’m very curious to see how Randle and Hibbert will play against a force like Cousins. That’s will be huge for us.

  • Black is a perfect backup C. He can run against the small balls and pretty much can finish the ball in the basket with force. He will be very important for us this season and the future seasons. Will be a hustle guy for many years ahead for cheap. I really like him, he knows his role!

  • Black is a perfect backup C. He can run against the small balls and pretty much can finish the ball in the basket with force. He will be very important for us this season and the future seasons. Will be a hustle guy for many years ahead for cheap. I really like him, he knows his role!

  • YES GREAT Randy!

    Please tell me, who shut down Hayward? Metta, that’s who.

  • YES GREAT Randy!

    Please tell me, who shut down Hayward? Metta, that’s who.

  • If he’s “Perfect” why did Bass outplay him at backup Center?

    Too many people are focused on small ball…

  • If he’s “Perfect” why did Bass outplay him at backup Center?

    Too many people are focused on small ball…

  • We may have messed up with letting Ed Davis go or maybe not. We definitely cant let Black go as long as his contract is reasonable.

  • Man, i pay him 3-5m/yr. Just because of the increase of the cap. He will be solid and seems like a healthy guy who we can count. He’s not trash like Sacre, and he’s not a project like Upshaw.
    He will never be that good. But will play and help us in the little things. A good carrer backup.

  • We may have messed up with letting Ed Davis go or maybe not. We definitely cant let Black go as long as his contract is reasonable.

  • Man, i pay him 3-5m/yr. Just because of the increase of the cap. He will be solid and seems like a healthy guy who we can count. He’s not trash like Sacre, and he’s not a project like Upshaw.
    He will never be that good. But will play and help us in the little things. A good carrer backup.

  • Randle has always been a point-forward. And using him to take the ball across half court lets the offense set up and creates match-up issues before any guard driven plays are run.

  • Randle has always been a point-forward. And using him to take the ball across half court lets the offense set up and creates match-up issues before any guard driven plays are run.

  • Hi, I am brazilian laker fan since Magic. So, I follow Lakers since 1989 and I know Huertas very well. He is a talented player, good shooter and great passer. I dreamed he dressing purple and gold 5 years ago. Would be perfect in that team, back up better than Shannon Brown or Steve Blake. Now, I am not sure how he can be useful: he is not in his best anymore an his physical in NBA game was a doubt for me when he was 5 years younger. He is talented, intelligent and could be helpful for this young backcourt: but I believe that he will have many injuries and I am not sure if he will be a goo fit for this team right now.

  • Hi, I am brazilian laker fan since Magic. So, I follow Lakers since 1989 and I know Huertas very well. He is a talented player, good shooter and great passer. I dreamed he dressing purple and gold 5 years ago. Would be perfect in that team, back up better than Shannon Brown or Steve Blake. Now, I am not sure how he can be useful: he is not in his best anymore an his physical in NBA game was a doubt for me when he was 5 years younger. He is talented, intelligent and could be helpful for this young backcourt: but I believe that he will have many injuries and I am not sure if he will be a goo fit for this team right now.

  • I think we need only one 7 ft on the team. And think Bass will play most of the time at PF position, with his mid-range game. Kelly shows promise, but wait for close him as a rotation player (he will make the roster, no doubt, but can he play solid every game?). I think Black will have good minutes off the bench, bro.

  • I’m not sure about that.
    Frazier and Holmes have shown a lot of promise. You aren’t seeing the results because they didn’t get much playing time and Scott didn’t let them shoot the ball.

  • Didn’t he more or less post up 90% of the time n bullied the weaker bodies at college?

  • I think we need only one 7 ft on the team. And think Bass will play most of the time at PF position, with his mid-range game. Kelly shows promise, but wait for close him as a rotation player (he will make the roster, no doubt, but can he play solid every game?). I think Black will have good minutes off the bench, bro.

  • I’m not sure about that.
    Frazier and Holmes have shown a lot of promise. You aren’t seeing the results because they didn’t get much playing time and Scott didn’t let them shoot the ball.

  • Didn’t he more or less post up 90% of the time n bullied the weaker bodies at college?

  • Let’s step back…
    He’s a point forward, not a point guard. And while he’s got some handles, he’s not Magic.

    Just because he’s a ball handling player doesn’t mean he’s a primary ball handler…..

  • Last year Huertas still had a great game.

    Things can change from one year to another but if we go based on recent performance Huertas can be great for this team.

  • Let’s step back…
    He’s a point forward, not a point guard. And while he’s got some handles, he’s not Magic.

    Just because he’s a ball handling player doesn’t mean he’s a primary ball handler…..

  • Last year Huertas still had a great game.

    Things can change from one year to another but if we go based on recent performance Huertas can be great for this team.

  • Thats what I was disappointed about. I was hoping to see Holmes shooting. What happened?

  • Thats what I was disappointed about. I was hoping to see Holmes shooting. What happened?

  • Oh, man. Good. I’m Brazilian too. From São Paulo. And you live in what city? Brasília? (disse isso por causa do bsb). I like Huertas too. He’s very good. He’s a lock on the roster and will have quality minutes off the bench, he is a very very good playmaker and his floater is solid.

    Um abraço, amigo!

  • 1) Randle – Exactly what he was drafted to become.
    2) Kobe at SF
    3) Hibbert on offense
    4) Williams and Young bring offensive firepower.
    5) MWP – Still a 14ppg guy.

  • Oh, man. Good. I’m Brazilian too. From São Paulo. And you live in what city? Brasília? (disse isso por causa do bsb). I like Huertas too. He’s very good. He’s a lock on the roster and will have quality minutes off the bench, he is a very very good playmaker and his floater is solid.

    Um abraço, amigo!

  • 1) Randle – Exactly what he was drafted to become.
    2) Kobe at SF
    3) Hibbert on offense
    4) Williams and Young bring offensive firepower.
    5) MWP – Still a 14ppg guy.

  • From one of the last threads, Kobe thinks our young guns are ahead of the curve. How much further behind say like Wolves young guns?

  • From one of the last threads, Kobe thinks our young guns are ahead of the curve. How much further behind say like Wolves young guns?

  • In the short minutes Bass played center he was much better than Black. I see Black as a #3 center who we’re calling a #2 out of need. But ultimately, the team still needs a #2 center. And given the situation, Bass outplayed him, and Upshaw is a better “project” (aka #3). Bass is a PF who can’t play the 4, but is too short play the 5. I am also very concerned that Black could be a foul machine….

    Think: Cut Black free up a roster spot for Kelly/Holmes/Frazier. Bass gets his 25 minutes at PF and C. And the #2 center position has a better solution than out of control, foul prone Black.

    I like Black, but I see him as a sentimental hold over from last year’s trainwreck. And while keeping him made sense in April, it’s a different dynamic now. I DO see Black as an ideal small ball center as a rotational specialist in the future. But I’m not sure given the situation, roster limit, and team’s future, that he’s worth keeping and grooming as a project. If Bass weren’t a better solution, a 15 man roster limit, and 3 undrafted guys who should be kept on the roster things would be different.

    And I say this as an independent observer WITHOUT inside information. Scott may have a bigger plan for him and might have seen more to his game during practice. Or Mitch (and Scott) might have a totally different opinion or vision for his (and the team’s) future.

  • We are already better than Wolves, man – because of our veteran guys. But Zach Lavine and Wiggins will show another love this season in comparasion of our rookies. They have one season in their bags and knows how to play already. They will play really good. Not sure about Towns, he will do ok, but not that good in his first season.
    Our rookies will have a bunch of ups and downs.

  • In the short minutes Bass played center he was much better than Black. I see Black as a #3 center who we’re calling a #2 out of need. But ultimately, the team still needs a #2 center. And given the situation, Bass outplayed him, and Upshaw is a better “project” (aka #3). Black is nothing more a PF who doesn’t have the skills to be a 4, but is too short play the 5. I am also very concerned that Black could be a foul machine….

    Think: Cut Black free up a roster spot for Kelly/Holmes/Frazier. Bass gets his 25 minutes at PF and C. And the #2 center position has a better solution than out of control, foul prone Black.

    I like Black, but I see him as a sentimental hold over from last year’s trainwreck. And while keeping him made sense in April, it’s a different dynamic now. I DO see Black as an ideal small ball center as a rotational specialist in the future. But I’m not sure given the situation, roster limit, and team’s future, that he’s worth keeping and grooming as a project.

    And I say this as an independent observer WITHOUT inside information. Scott may have a bigger plan for him and might have seen more to his game during practice. Or Mitch (and Scott) might have a totally different opinion or vision for his (and the team’s) future and Black could make the final 15.

  • We are already better than Wolves, man – because of our veteran guys. But Zach Lavine and Wiggins will show another love this season in comparasion of our rookies. They have one season in their bags and knows how to play already. They will play really good. Not sure about Towns, he will do ok, but not that good in his first season.
    Our rookies will have a bunch of ups and downs.

  • I’d put Clarkson on the same level as Lavine, their styles are somewhat similar, the athleticism and the stats too.
    That’s where the comparison stops. There’s no way you can compare Randle or D’Angelo with Towns or Wiggins, they don’t play the same positions and don’t have the same abilities at all. And they are all very talented, but you clearly can’t rank them.

  • I’d put Clarkson on the same level as Lavine, their styles are somewhat similar, the athleticism and the stats too.
    That’s where the comparison stops. There’s no way you can compare Randle or D’Angelo with Towns or Wiggins, they don’t play the same positions and don’t have the same abilities at all. And they are all very talented, but you clearly can’t rank them.

  • If Bass is a better #2 center, and Scott has said that he likes Bass at that position more than Black, then what’s his role?

    And is developing Black to be a small ball center worth cutting Upshaw? Or keeping Upshaw but cutting Holmes or Frazier?

  • If Bass is a better #2 center, and Scott has said that he likes Bass at that position more than Black, then what’s his role?

    And is developing Black to be a small ball center worth cutting Upshaw? Or keeping Upshaw but cutting Holmes or Frazier?

  • Of all the rookies, sophomores I have seen in pre-season, Randle to me looks the best. He is just so athletic and so skilled. We have a lot to be excited about.

  • Of all the rookies, sophomores I have seen in pre-season, Randle to me looks the best. He is just so athletic and so skilled. We have a lot to be excited about.

  • Cutting Holmes and Frazier. I don’t see any promise in them. Let them play for Dfenders

  • He played “out of character” in Calipari’s system as a traditional PF which didn’t let him display his handles, speed, or any sort of the intangibles we’re seeing now.

    This is why everyone wanted to call him a PF when he was drafted, but said that his arms were too short to dominate.

  • Cutting Holmes and Frazier. I don’t see any promise in them. Let them play for Dfenders

  • He played “out of character” in Calipari’s system as a traditional PF which didn’t let him display his handles, speed, or any sort of the intangibles we’re seeing now.

    This is why everyone wanted to call him a PF when he was drafted, but said that his arms were too short to dominate.

  • sold on our second unit of russell,lou,young,kelly,black

    we still are trying to find a consistent starting 5 and well as our reserve bench

    hibbert and randle clicked thats great

    upshaw showing signs

  • sold on our second unit of russell,lou,young,kelly,black

    we still are trying to find a consistent starting 5 and well as our reserve bench

    hibbert and randle clicked thats great

    upshaw showing signs

  • I think, one of Scott’s “grooming” methods for rookies and young players is to give them floor time, make them defenders, let them move the ball, but only let them shoot 3-4 times per game when a play is called for them.

    I saw this last year with Clarkson, Kelly, Black, and some of the other guys. And I see it this year with Frazier, Holmes, ABrown and Nance.

    It could be that he’s limiting the “damage” created by rookies jacking up shots and missing and letting them earn their offensive standing.

  • ESPN projects us to get only 27 wins this season and finish 14th in the West.

    How come could we be as bad as last season when 1) I see improvement in every position and 2) we have a decent-to-good bench?! Am I missing something here?

  • I think, one of Scott’s “grooming” methods for rookies and young players is to give them floor time, make them defenders, let them move the ball, but only let them shoot 3-4 times per game when a play is called for them.

    I saw this last year with Clarkson, Kelly, Black, and some of the other guys. And I see it this year with Frazier, Holmes, ABrown and Nance.

    It could be that he’s limiting the “damage” created by rookies jacking up shots and missing and letting them earn their offensive standing.

  • ESPN projects us to get only 27 wins this season and finish 14th in the West.

    How come could we be as bad as last season when 1) I see improvement in every position and 2) we have a decent-to-good bench?! Am I missing something here?

    I’d consider this season to be a complete failure if we cannot reach the 35-plus win mark.

  • I was thinking about our season today and conclude our PERFECT CENARIO.

    1) We finish at 10 worst record in the league, but showing good promise with D’lo winning the ROY, Randle developing and Kobe playing healthy.
    2) We have lucky in the lottery and keep our pick (on the top 3)
    3) We trade our top 3 pick for a solid guy

    4) Our young core is too promise too ignore and we can grab Durant in FA.
    5) Kobe resign with the team to play another season

  • In fact, I live in Brasília. I am almost a “Candango”! About Huerts, I totaly agree with you about his skils. How I said, I think that he would be a perfect fit in the two times champion team. But, in my view, he is not in his best anymore. And I fear that his physical will not support the NBA game because even in his high, he never had the phisical prototype of a NBA player.

  • I was thinking about our season today and conclude our PERFECT CENARIO.

    1) We finish at 10 worst record in the league, but showing good promise with D’lo winning the ROY, Randle developing and Kobe playing healthy.
    2) We have lucky in the lottery and keep our pick (on the top 3)
    3) We trade our top 3 pick for a solid guy

    4) Our young core is too promise too ignore and we can grab Durant in FA.
    5) Kobe resign with the team to play another season

  • In fact, I live in Brasília. I am almost a “Candango”! About Huerts, I totaly agree with you about his skils. How I said, I think that he would be a perfect fit in the two times champion team. But, in my view, he is not in his best anymore. And I fear that his physical will not support the NBA game because even in his high, he never had the phisical prototype of a NBA player.

  • that’s bad coaching if he says that. Move the ball and when there’s an open shot, shoot

  • He can be solid in limited minutes, Junior. Think about. Prigioni came to the NBA more old than Huertas and has done ok. Huertas will do the same. He can play off the bench without any concern.

    Me add no facebook “Lucas Torres”

  • that’s bad coaching if he says that. Move the ball and when there’s an open shot, shoot

  • He can be solid in limited minutes, Junior. Think about. Prigioni came to the NBA more old than Huertas and has done ok. Huertas will do the same. He can play off the bench without any concern.

    Me add no facebook “Lucas Torres”

  • Williams is capable too. It’s not ideal but it’s ok.

    Folks gotta step back and realize that this year is about growth and turning around the momentum of a beaten down franchise. It’s not about getting a parade down Figuroa.

    So, some situations might not be ideal, and Mitch might not try to fix them in the same way he would if there were expectations of playing in May.

  • Williams is capable too. It’s not ideal but it’s ok.

    Folks gotta step back and realize that this year is about growth and turning around the momentum of a beaten down franchise. It’s not about getting a parade down Figuroa.

    So, some situations might not be ideal, and Mitch might not try to fix them in the same way he would if there were expectations of playing in May.

  • agreed, man. They can’t play even in a mediocre team in the league. He can only play for the 76ers.

  • agreed, man. They can’t play even in a mediocre team in the league. He can only play for the 76ers.

  • What value does he have if Bass is a better solution?

    At that point, you’re keeping Black (a guy on a 1 year deal) at the expense of Upshaw, Frazier, or Holmes.

  • To me with Huertas, Lou, Young, Bass and Black we have the best bench of the league. Maybe only Clippers is better

  • You dont know Mettas historical stats. Mettas championship clutch shots were not flukes, Metta can shoot.

  • What value does he have if Bass is a better solution?

    At that point, you’re keeping Black (a guy on a 1 year deal) at the expense of Upshaw, Frazier, or Holmes.

  • To me with Huertas, Lou, Young, Bass and Black we have the best bench of the league. Maybe only Clippers is better

  • You dont know Mettas historical stats. Mettas championship clutch shots were not flukes, Metta can shoot.

  • Bass is a PF in my eyes. He can shot that mid-range. Black can finish with force in the paint. He is tough and is athletic. He will be keep, man. His above Upshaw and Sacre

  • Bass is a PF in my eyes. He can shot that mid-range. Black can finish with force in the paint. He is tough and is athletic. He will be keep, man. His above Upshaw and Sacre

  • I hope you are right. Really, I ever liked Huertas, for me, the most talented brazilian since Oscar. And Prigioni is an example who cames in my mind too, but I am not very confident.
    I search for “Lucas Torres” and found hundreds: I believe that you will find me easier: “Salerme Júnior”

  • I hope you are right. Really, I ever liked Huertas, for me, the most talented brazilian since Oscar. And Prigioni is an example who cames in my mind too, but I am not very confident.
    I search for “Lucas Torres” and found hundreds: I believe that you will find me easier: “Salerme Júnior”

  • They looked like rookies. Did you expect more? And neither got a chance to show the offense (or skills) they were drafted to utilize.

    Frazier shot 3/10 in 40 minutes. Is that really an indicator of how a guy who led his division 2 out of 4 years in college can play?

    Holmes got a total of 20 minutes of play so far, which is the same as Nance. Is that an indication of how he’s going to play?

    You need to take a step back and realize that you are talking about guys who won’t contribute for another year and what they might (or should) become with a year’s worth of growth, development, and experience… not what they can give us in 20 minutes of pre-season play as rookies.

  • Perfect scenario? The only perfect scenario is to win a ring.
    As an alternate good scenario I’d rather go with clinching a PO spot and giving PO experience to our stellar rookies, showing the 2016 FA the huge potential there and signing Durant to replace a retired Kobe.
    Developing our rookies to get them at the door of the All Star caliber next year. Getting Upshaw in the track. Kelly with a breakout year.
    And reinforcing our veteran squad to balance the experience nicely.
    That’d be decent.

  • They looked like rookies. Did you expect more? And neither got a chance to show the offense (or skills) they were drafted to utilize.

    Frazier shot 3/10 in 40 minutes. Is that really an indicator of how a guy who led his division 2 out of 4 years in college can play?

    Holmes got a total of 20 minutes of play so far, which is the same as Nance. Is that an indication of how he’s going to play?

    You need to take a step back and realize that you are talking about guys who won’t contribute for another year and what they might (or should) become with a year’s worth of growth, development, and experience… not what they can give us in 20 minutes of pre-season play as rookies.

  • Perfect scenario? The only perfect scenario is to win a ring.
    As an alternate good scenario I’d rather go with clinching a PO spot and giving PO experience to our stellar rookies, showing the 2016 FA the huge potential there and signing Durant to replace a retired Kobe.
    Developing our rookies to get them at the door of the All Star caliber next year. Getting Upshaw in the track. Kelly with a breakout year.
    And reinforcing our veteran squad to balance the experience nicely.
    That’d be decent.

  • Scott’s known as one of the best player developers in the league.

    I’m not sure you or I are ones to judge, criticize or have any sort of comment on his “coaching” abilities.

    Realize that YOU are an ARMCHAIR coach with ZERO NBA experience, and that Scott has more than a decade……. Maybe he knows a bit more about coaching and developing guys than you do.

  • Scott’s known as one of the best player developers in the league.

    I’m not sure you or I are ones to judge, criticize or have any sort of comment on his “coaching” abilities.

    Realize that YOU are an ARMCHAIR coach with ZERO NBA experience, and that Scott has more than a decade……. Maybe he knows a bit more about coaching and developing guys than you do.

  • SO you think Bass was acquired as backup center?

    Why would we have done that, hes not a center?

  • So you think Bass was acquired as backup center?

    Why would we have done that, hes not a center?

    We need to keep Upshaw thats for sure.

  • not really sure who Scott has developed that already didn’t have all-star potential

  • Added, bro. Well, lets hope he will play the last three games of the preseason to show promise to us and more important, to Byron. I don’t wanna see he been cut. He can really help us, more than any undrafted rookie like Frazier or Holmes.

  • nither frazier or holmes are better then black and they arnt needed by this team we have a ton of player that can p;lay sg and sf and pf

  • not really sure who Scott has developed that already didn’t have all-star potential

  • Added, bro. Well, lets hope he will play the last three games of the preseason to show promise to us and more important, to Byron. I don’t wanna see he been cut. He can really help us, more than any undrafted rookie like Frazier or Holmes.

  • nither frazier or holmes are better then black and they arnt needed by this team we have a ton of player that can p;lay sg and sf and pf

  • I would not go as far as to claim that but I feel that we can compete with any team on a good day. I mean, aside from GSW, Spurs, Rockets, Clippers, Grizzlies and Thunder in the West and the Cavs, Heat, Hawks, Bulls and Raptors maybe in the East, which team cannot we beat?

  • I would not go as far as to claim that but I feel that we can compete with any team on a good day. I mean, aside from GSW, Spurs, Rockets, Clippers, Grizzlies and Thunder in the West and the Cavs, Heat, Hawks, Bulls and Raptors maybe in the East, which other team are we not supposed to be able to beat at least once?

  • Even Randle can play center if Warriors go to their small ball lineup with Kobe playing pf

  • Even Randle can play center if Warriors go to their small ball lineup with Kobe playing pf

  • Makes sense, but with so many players and limited spots, we need to see how these rooks can play full on in preseason to determine who is kept and who is cut.

    Do you agree?

  • This defenders might play more exciting basketball than the lakers do these days!

  • Makes sense, but with so many players and limited spots, we need to see how these rooks can play full on in preseason to determine who is kept and who is cut.

    Do you agree?

  • This defenders might play more exciting basketball than the lakers do these days!

  • Lowry is playing amazing, man. Raptors will be really good. I see them going beyond of the first round this season

  • Like I’ve said before, if we lose every game to the top 7 West teams and all 8 games against the top 4 East, we’ll be 46-36 and perhaps the 8th seed. 🙂

  • Lowry is playing amazing, man. Raptors will be really good. I see them going beyond of the first round this season

  • Like I’ve said before, if we lose every game to the top 7 West teams and all 8 games against the top 4 East, we’ll be 46-36 and perhaps the 8th seed. 🙂

  • Randle, no, not becuase he is not capable, but becuase he is a baby in a mans body and I wouldnt risk him getting hurt based on the tough guarding that the center position requires.

  • you overrate homles and frazier to much. both have been given chances and they have failed to live up to it

  • Randle, no, not becuase he is not capable, but becuase he is a baby in a mans body and I wouldnt risk him getting hurt based on the tough guarding that the center position requires.

  • you overrate homles and frazier to much. both have been given chances and they have failed to live up to it

  • Well, i think we cant go to the playoffs right now. Suns is knocking on that door the 2 last years. Is time for them get their

  • players fighting for a roster spot

    a brown guaranteed
    j brown
    frazier
    holmes
    nance guaranteed
    sacre guaranteed
    upshaw
    mwp
    huertas

    those who are not listed are a lock lets not forget mitch said he’s willing to cut guaranteed players as well

  • Well, i think we cant go to the playoffs right now. Suns is knocking on that door the 2 last years. Is time for them get their

  • players fighting for a roster spot

    a brown guaranteed
    j brown
    frazier
    holmes
    nance guaranteed
    sacre guaranteed
    upshaw
    mwp
    huertas

    those who are not listed are a lock lets not forget mitch said he’s willing to cut guaranteed players as well

  • I hope we can do a trade that includes sacre and nick and get some back up point guard then cut Frazier Holmes and j brown it would be set togo..

  • I hope we can do a trade that includes sacre and nick and get some back up point guard then cut Frazier Holmes and j brown it would be set togo..

  • Don’t sleep on it, it’s not as remotely possible as ‘some’ would make us believe. But it would require an outstanding development of our rookies and a strong performance from our vets, as well as being spared from injuries, for a change.

  • 5 roster spots open who are last 5 guys to make it??

    some say nance and a brown are making it thats 2 guys who are the last 3 then

  • Don’t sleep on it, it’s not as remotely possible as ‘some’ would make us believe. But it would require an outstanding development of our rookies and a strong performance from our vets, as well as being spared from injuries, for a change.

  • 5 roster spots open who are last 5 guys to make it??

    some say nance and a brown are making it thats 2 guys who are the last 3 then

  • Why get rid of Nick? He will be key to our dominant bench that will outscore any other bench in league.

  • Why get rid of Nick? He will be key to our dominant bench that will outscore any other bench in league.

  • i agree to a point but nance seems like a possible trade with kelly to get better later in the season

  • i agree to a point but nance seems like a possible trade with kelly to get better later in the season

  • Holmes, Sacre, Frazier, J Brown, are being cut. Kelly stays because he been looking good since he is playing PF

  • Holmes, Sacre, Frazier, J Brown, are being cut. Kelly stays because he been looking good since he is playing PF

  • I like AB but i wouldnt be surprised to see him & Nance play for our DLeague team for most of the season

  • I like AB but i wouldnt be surprised to see him & Nance play for our DLeague team for most of the season

  • Am I the only one concerned with our perimeter defense? Kobe gambles way too much on defense and gets burned. Clarkson tries his hardest but he still isn’t great defensively and Russell is a rookie who needs time. Inserting Anthony Brown in the starting lineup has helped a bit. Our bigs are doing good on defense but the guards need to do their part.

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  • Am I the only one concerned with our perimeter defense? Kobe gambles way too much on defense and gets burned. Clarkson tries his hardest but he still isn’t great defensively and Russell is a rookie who needs time. Inserting Anthony Brown in the starting lineup has helped a bit. Our bigs are doing good on defense but the guards need to do their part.

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  • i dont like that, man. We have to speak freely. Let the haters hate, but the conversation has to be uncut

  • I hope they cut MWP & hire him as a defensive player development coach. I see MWP defense in Randle already.

  • It took you a good…what 6 months after my initial complaint about the Lin fans? EVERY comment will be monitored is a bit irrational.

  • i dont like that, man. We have to speak freely. Let the haters hate, but the conversation has to be uncut

  • I hope they cut MWP & hire him as a defensive player development coach. I see MWP defense in Randle already.

  • It took you a good…what 6 months after my initial complaint about the Lin fans? EVERY comment will be monitored is a bit irrational.

  • Could be nice a times to have a moderation, but don’t disrupt the flow of conversation, that could kill the comment section to have to wait an hour to see our replies…

  • Could be nice a times to have a moderation, but don’t disrupt the flow of conversation, that could kill the comment section to have to wait an hour to see our replies…

  • Last season when all the Lin fans we’re spamming here. You should have been moderating then. But now theres no Spam & you want to do it now? But on a side note very good site for us Lakers fans to interact & conversate about our team.

  • Last season when all the Lin fans we’re spamming here. You should have been moderating then. But now theres no Spam & you want to do it now? But on a side note very good site for us Lakers fans to interact & conversate about our team.

  • He knew about it because I told him multiple times but take a look at his profile picture and figure out the answer…

  • He knew about it because I told him multiple times but take a look at his profile picture and figure out the answer…

  • unless another teamd d league takes them.
    alot of good players dont like the defenders because they are owned by the lakers meaning teams need to call up lthe main team to try and sign a player off of the defenders

  • unless another teamd d league takes them.
    alot of good players dont like the defenders because they are owned by the lakers meaning teams need to call up lthe main team to try and sign a player off of the defenders

  • Bass will likely be here for only 1 year so team will try to develop Nance this year mostly through the d-league

  • Thank you so much Dan!

    May we suggest you please permanently ban:
    Thirdeyeus400, CLIPPERSRUNLA and Brian!

    Thank you.

  • Bass will likely be here for only 1 year so team will try to develop Nance this year mostly through the d-league

  • Thank you so much Dan!

    May we suggest you please permanently ban:
    Thirdeyeus400,
    CLIPPERSRUNLA
    Brian
    johnny
    rofl

    Thank you.

  • Positions don’t factor. It’s the development curve Kobe mentioned I’m talking about. Just as an aside though different playing positions hasn’t stopped anyone from ranking players from draft to who’s the best in the NBA

  • No, freedom of speech has nothing to do with hijacking a forum.
    Enough is enough.
    This is a forum for Lakers fans not for trolls!

  • Positions don’t factor. It’s the development curve Kobe mentioned I’m talking about. Just as an aside though different playing positions hasn’t stopped anyone from ranking players from draft to who’s the best in the NBA

  • No…..freedom of speech has nothing to do with hijacking a forum.
    Enough is enough.
    This is a forum for Lakers fans not for trolls!

    Dan and Lakers Nation cares about their website, its important to prevent these trolls from hijacking the website they have worked so tirelessly to develop!

  • Am i the only one waiting for Dlo to shoot more? We know he can pass, & slash, we seen him shoot 3s in college. i want to see more shot attempts Maybe give us a 10-10-6 tonight. Assisting is easy for him, rebounding is easy for him, lets see him shoot. because he cant be dribbling to much around Rondo or it will be a turn over. Rondo can steal the ball.

  • Am i the only one waiting for Dlo to shoot more? We know he can pass, & slash, we seen him shoot 3s in college. i want to see more shot attempts Maybe give us a 10-10-6 tonight. Assisting is easy for him, rebounding is easy for him, lets see him shoot. because he cant be dribbling to much around Rondo or it will be a turn over. Rondo can steal the ball.

  • I’m waiting on that too. He can really shoot and will likely be over 35% from 3. I think he’s just cruising right now but I really want him to turn it up a bit so we can see all his skills.

  • Appreciate your feedback, Lucas. The new system is in the early stages and based on the pending comments that I see, there are adjustments I will need to make. If there is anything you would like to discuss, feel free to e-mail me.

  • I’m waiting on that too. He can really shoot and will likely be over 35% from 3. I think he’s just cruising right now but I really want him to turn it up a bit so we can see all his skills.

  • Appreciate your feedback, Lucas. The new system is in the early stages and based on the pending comments that I see, there are adjustments I will need to make. If there is anything you would like to discuss, feel free to e-mail me.

  • No, not really. Clarkson, Kobe, Randle are all scorers and we need a facilitator.

  • No, not really. Clarkson, Kobe, Randle are all scorers and we need a facilitator.

  • He wouldnt have to force up shots. He is the PG with the ball in his hands at most times & only shoot the ball twice in a game. he should have more shot attempts or atleast get to the free throw line.

  • He wouldnt have to force up shots. He is the PG with the ball in his hands at most times & only shoot the ball twice in a game. he should have more shot attempts or atleast get to the free throw line.

  • I know he can knock down 3s. he is a ver efficient player. He will probaly knock down near 40%

  • He has to do what it takes to win games. Some games it may be passing more some might be shooting more. He has to feel the game

  • I know he can knock down 3s. he is a ver efficient player. He will probaly knock down near 40%

  • He has to do what it takes to win games. Some games it may be passing more some might be shooting more. He has to feel the game

  • Guys we complain about:
    Thirdeyeus400, Clippersrunla, Brian, Johnny, etc. and now that Dan has decided to take action, we are compalining.

    Please lets be thankful.

  • He has to shoot or every opposing player will expect pass & they steal the ball. Just keep the defenses honest & knock down a few shots

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  • Guys we complain about:
    Thirdeyeus400, Clippersrunla, Brian, Johnny, etc. and now that Dan has decided to take action, we are complaining.

    Please, lets be thankful.

  • He has to shoot or every opposing player will expect pass & they steal the ball. Just keep the defenses honest & knock down a few shots

  • Thanks for your feedback, DKWTTY. I agree every comment being monitored is a bit irrational and adjustments will be made to find a nice balance. If there is anything else you would like to discuss, feel free to e-mail me.

  • I am beyond grateful.

    Do what you have to do!!!

    Thank you very much Mr Duangdao!!!!

  • I am beyond grateful.

    Do what you have to do!!!

    Thank you very much Mr Duangdao!!!!

  • He is doing that already, when the shot is there. In todays NBA that isn’t often. On ball defenders are very good. Passing is how you get open to shoot

  • Its preseason show us some fans the wow factor we know he has. & everyone can still get they shots up also. Thats why CP3 never wins when it counts. We know they can pass & shoot but get to passive at times

  • nice. With Kobe, Lou and Young we have to use more spot up shooting. Every elite team (except Memphis) use that type of game

  • He is doing that already, when the shot is there. In todays NBA that isn’t often. On ball defenders are very good. Passing is how you get open to shoot

  • Its preseason show us some fans the wow factor we know he has. & everyone can still get they shots up also. Thats why CP3 never wins when it counts. We know they can pass & shoot but get to passive at times

  • nice. With Kobe, Lou and Young we have to use more spot up shooting. Every elite team (except Memphis) use that type of game

  • D’lo, Randle, Clarkson, Brown and nance showing good promise and Hibbert proving that he can still play at a high level would be just fine to me.

    Next season:

    Russel / X
    Clarkson / Williams / Brown
    X / Brown
    Randle / X / Nance
    Hibbert / X / Upshaw

  • D’lo, Randle, Clarkson, Brown and nance showing good promise and Hibbert proving that he can still play at a high level would be just fine to me.

    Next season:

    Russel / X
    Clarkson / Williams / Brown
    X / Brown
    Randle / X / Nance
    Hibbert / X / Upshaw

  • I agree with you, Shkalak. With new moderation in place, I am in the process of trying to find a nice balance, so it does not disrupt the flow of conversation.

  • I told you (chuckling).

    He who laughs last, laughs best!

    Troll fumigation time !!!
    Bye bye johnny, clippersrunla, brian!

  • I agree with you, Shkalak. With new moderation in place, I am in the process of trying to find a nice balance, so it does not disrupt the flow of conversation.

  • I told you (chuckling).

    He who laughs last, laughs best!

    Troll fumigation time !!!
    Bye bye johnny, clippersrunla, brian, rofl!

  • Randy, let the man do his job, he still has articles to write, on top of this mod gig.

  • Randy, let the man do his job, he still has articles to write, on top of this mod gig.

  • Thank you Dan. I wouldn’t mind helping you monitor if need be. Maybe we can vote for a set of rules or something and utilize the flag button so that when comments are collapsed due to flagging they get removed.

  • Thank you Dan. I wouldn’t mind helping you monitor if need be. Maybe we can vote for a set of rules or something and utilize the flag button so that when comments are collapsed due to flagging they get removed.

  • Thanks for your feedback and patience, LV. I apologize for the spam and feel free to e-mail me with any ideas because I do want to make this the best experience possible for you and everyone.

  • I’m not saying I don’t approve. But I wrote a message today that was ‘pending on moderation’. Nothing senseless or inappropriate. Just a bit long as some of us do sometimes. I had to try and split it and send it 10 times before it finally got over the systematic moderation that was left unanswered (and the message disappears after 5 minutes of lack of moderation). So what of the messages sent at night or any given time when the moderation ain’t active? The message will disappear?
    I do agree something has to be done for the repeated spamming and trolling in here, though.

  • True but I wanted to leave some room for error since he will be a rookie. It’s a very long season which will mean tired legs!

  • Thanks for your feedback and patience, LV. I apologize for the spam and feel free to e-mail me with any ideas because I do want to make this the best experience possible for you and everyone.

  • I’m not saying I don’t approve. But I wrote a message today that was ‘pending on moderation’. Nothing senseless or inappropriate. Just a bit long as some of us do sometimes. I had to try and split it and send it 10 times before it finally got over the systematic moderation that was left unanswered (and the message disappears after 5 minutes of lack of moderation). So what of the messages sent at night or any given time when the moderation ain’t active? The message will disappear?
    I do agree something has to be done for the repeated spamming and trolling in here, though.

  • True but I wanted to leave some room for error since he will be a rookie. It’s a very long season which will mean tired legs!

  • He will adjust accordingly. This is new it will take time for him to get the balance right.

    That happened to me as well but it was based on curse or certain borderline words.

  • He will adjust accordingly. This is new it will take time for him to get the balance right.

    That happened to me as well but it was based on curse or certain borderline words.

  • Hope is for Huertas to practice tomorrow (if there is one), Thursday & Friday. Byron says 75% chance Huertas will play Sat. vs GSW

  • Hope is for Huertas to practice tomorrow (if there is one), Thursday & Friday. Byron says 75% chance Huertas will play Sat. vs GSW

  • Hope is for Huertas to practice tomorrow (if there is one), Thursday & Friday. Byron says 75% chance Huertas will play Sat. vs GSW

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  • frazier has been doing everything good while staying humble. made very few mistakes .i think he beats out huertas for 3 string pg

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  • frazier has been doing everything good while staying humble. made very few mistakes .i think he beats out huertas for 3 string pg

  • Trolling IS spamming.

    We have trolls here every day:
    CLIPPERSRUNLA
    Brian
    Johnny
    Thirdeyeus400
    Also alias guest accounts by some members.

  • No way, man. I can guarantee to you. Huertas is far away better than Frazier. He’s like Rubio, a talented passer. He can really play.

  • With all Lin fan boys gone, life should be easier for you this year… Some of them like LinWin were truly obnoxious!

  • huertas is getting it just for being a pure pass first PG & having the most experience

  • Trolling IS spamming.

    We have trolls here every day:
    CLIPPERSRUNLA
    Brian
    Johnny
    Thirdeyeus400
    rofl
    Harry Balzack
    Also alias guest accounts by some members.

  • No way, man. I can guarantee to you. Huertas is far away better than Frazier. He’s like Rubio, a talented passer. He can really play.

  • With all Lin fan boys gone, life should be easier for you this year… Some of them like LinWin were truly obnoxious!

  • huertas is getting it just for being a pure pass first PG & having the most experience

  • huertas is getting it just for being a pure pass first PG & having the most experience

  • byron is holding out huertas as much as possible he’s favoring frazier if you guys cant see it already

  • byron is holding out huertas as much as possible he’s favoring frazier if you guys cant see it already

  • byron is holding out huertas as much as possible he’s favoring frazier if you guys cant see it already

  • He said he really like Huertas and want preserve his body to the regular season (because of the hamstring). Add on that, Huertas was last week in Canada to work on his papers to work on USA. He’s a lock.

  • look at twitter of Mike Trudell. There are two videos. One with D’angelo hiting threes in practice and Randle hitting the mid-range J. Look there

  • He said he really like Huertas and want preserve his body to the regular season (because of the hamstring). Add on that, Huertas was last week in Canada to work on his papers to work on USA. He’s a lock.

  • He said he really like Huertas and want preserve his body to the regular season (because of the hamstring). Add on that, Huertas was last week in Canada to work on his papers to work on USA. He’s a lock.

  • look at twitter of Mike Trudell. There are two videos. One with D’angelo hiting threes in practice and Randle hitting the mid-range J. Look there

  • look at twitter of Mike Trudell. There are two videos. One with D’angelo hiting threes in practice and Randle hitting the mid-range J. Look there

  • I’m brazilian, bro. I saw he too many times in our national team and in Barcelona. He will be fine. Don’t worry. Will do better than Prigioni for example

  • I’m brazilian, bro. I saw he too many times in our national team and in Barcelona. He will be fine. Don’t worry. Will do better than Prigioni for example

  • I’m brazilian, bro. I saw he too many times in our national team and in Barcelona. He will be fine. Don’t worry. Will do better than Prigioni for example

  • What about if Black surprises us with what he has pick up this off season, then what?

  • What about if Black surprises us with what he has pick up this off season, then what?

  • Yeah. He has to knock down his open jumpers this year. He don’t have to shot off drible right now. Can add it in the future

  • Yeah. He has to knock down his open jumpers this year. He don’t have to shot off drible right now. Can add it in the future

  • Hahaha! He looks so scrawny! I was watching the last game and thinking he really needs to wear those sleeves that other players wear on their legs cause those chicken legs are scary. Tim Difrancesco will have him in top shape soon enough.

  • We shall see, I’ll be happy to avoid some nasty talks about poor choice of words. Happened to me 3 times already, gotta say that’s very very annoying to try to have a nice debate or conversation and facing insults (or whatever lack of manners) from people who disagree and can’t refrain from showing their absolute truthfullness that way.

  • Hahaha! He looks so scrawny! I was watching the last game and thinking he really needs to wear those sleeves that other players wear on their legs cause those chicken legs are scary. Tim Difrancesco will have him in top shape soon enough.

  • We shall see, I’ll be happy to avoid some nasty talks about poor choice of words. Happened to me 3 times already, gotta say that’s very very annoying to try to have a nice debate or conversation and facing insults (or whatever lack of manners) from people who disagree and can’t refrain from showing their absolute truthfullness that way.

  • frazier has been playing pg for the past few games and can we honestly see any flaws in frazier..the guy seems like a legit back up pg

  • frazier has been playing pg for the past few games and can we honestly see any flaws in frazier..the guy seems like a legit back up pg

  • Mr. Dan I am ecstatic and I sincerley want to thank you on behalf of us who value your efforts.

    I appreciate the camaraderie that we the true Lakers fans have here. It is nice to know we have our own home to discus all things Lakers with like minded individuals.

    Please continue the good work.

    Thank you so much for providing a platform that we can be proud of for our benefit and thank you for making yourself accessible.

  • Mr. Dan I am ecstatic and I sincerley want to thank you on behalf of us who value your efforts.

    I appreciate the camaraderie that we the true Lakers fans have here. It is nice to know we have our own home to discus all things Lakers with like minded individuals.

    Please continue the good work.

    Thank you so much for providing a platform that we can be proud of for our benefit and thank you for making yourself accessible.

  • Mr. Dan I am ecstatic and I sincerley want to thank you on behalf of us who value your efforts.

    I appreciate the camaraderie that we the true Lakers fans have here. It is nice to know we have our own home to discus all things Lakers with like minded individuals.

    Please continue the good work.

    Thank you so much for providing a platform that we can be proud of for our benefit and thank you for making yourself accessible.

  • LinWin was beyond obnoxious, and he still comes around to disrupt.

    He was here a few days ago I believe.

  • No reason to force the issue when you have three scorers there that can create their own shot. If you have Kobe, Randle and Clarkson on the floor, let them force the issue if it comes down to that. He is playing his role very well, be happy with that.

  • LinWin was beyond obnoxious, and he still comes around to disrupt.

    He was here a few days ago I believe.

  • LinWin was beyond obnoxious, and he still comes around to disrupt.

    He was here a few days ago I believe.

  • No reason to force the issue when you have three scorers there that can create their own shot. If you have Kobe, Randle and Clarkson on the floor, let them force the issue if it comes down to that. He is playing his role very well, be happy with that.

  • No reason to force the issue when you have three scorers there that can create their own shot. If you have Kobe, Randle and Clarkson on the floor, let them force the issue if it comes down to that. He is playing his role very well, be happy with that.

  • yo. Stop all the non-sense. If I am an undrafted and am any good, I will show my stuffs in practice by outplaying the guy in front of you. That’s how you gained real court time in preseason which is more of a confirmation than discovery. Don’t ever think greatness is not known to others but only in front of the tv where you fans are watching. Your peers will be the first to know that you are any good.

  • I here you. I used a word that starts with H and means the place where the devil lives and it was pegged for moderation but in the long run you and I will end up with a much improved Lakers Nation forum.

    I was sick and tired of putting up with the nonsense of rofl, Brian, johnny, Clippersrunla, etc.

    I think the amount of flagging they receive should warrant a permanent ban on them.

  • yo. Stop all the non-sense. If I am an undrafted and am any good, I will show my stuffs in practice by outplaying the guy in front of you. That’s how you gained real court time in preseason which is more of a confirmation than discovery. Don’t ever think greatness is not known to others but only in front of the tv where you fans are watching. Your peers will be the first to know that you are any good.

  • I here you. I used a word that starts with H and means the place where the devil lives and it was pegged for moderation but in the long run you and I will end up with a much improved Lakers Nation forum.

    I was sick and tired of putting up with the nonsense of rofl, Brian, johnny, Clippersrunla, etc.

    I think the amount of flagging they receive should warrant a permanent ban on them.

  • holmes was showing he can defend the 4 and possibly be a valuable bench guy behind randle

  • holmes was showing he can defend the 4 and possibly be a valuable bench guy behind randle

  • Metta’s not who he used to be, but he’s going to have no problem locking down second string 3’s and 4’s in the league. Plus, the energy he brings to the court made all the young guys work harder and play better. You could see it in the preseason games. I don’t mind him.

  • Metta’s not who he used to be, but he’s going to have no problem locking down second string 3’s and 4’s in the league. Plus, the energy he brings to the court made all the young guys work harder and play better. You could see it in the preseason games. I don’t mind him.

  • Agree. He’s closer to Blake Griffin than Magic Johnson, just not as athletic and less flopping 😛

  • Agree. He’s closer to Blake Griffin than Magic Johnson, just not as athletic and less flopping 😛

  • I think we already have the low risk high reward gamble in Upshaw. It’d be nice to have a more stable backup…

  • I think we already have the low risk high reward gamble in Upshaw. It’d be nice to have a more stable backup…

  • Yeah too much of Lakers media outlets have been selling us on “potential” but we’re not understanding what that means.

  • Yeah too much of Lakers media outlets have been selling us on “potential” but we’re not understanding what that means.

  • I never considered Black a good finisher but I do agree he’s better than Upshaw and Sacre at this point. J Taylor’s point though is that if we’re grooming for the future, maybe we’d rather keep the guys who have longer deals?

  • Totally agree. I really liked Davis and it felt like he wanted to stay in LA. Oh well

  • I never considered Black a good finisher but I do agree he’s better than Upshaw and Sacre at this point. J Taylor’s point though is that if we’re grooming for the future, maybe we’d rather keep the guys who have longer deals?

  • Totally agree. I really liked Davis and it felt like he wanted to stay in LA. Oh well

  • I donno. Seems like the hot word these days is “small ball” because of GS but let’s just keep in mind that only the Warriors can play like the Warriors because only the Warriors have Curry, Thompson, and Green.

  • I donno. Seems like the hot word these days is “small ball” because of GS but let’s just keep in mind that only the Warriors can play like the Warriors because only the Warriors have Curry, Thompson, and Green.

  • Huh?
    To poach a guy off the DFenders all another team has to do is offer him a guaranteed contract and a roster space.

    Then the Lakers have the opportunity to match.

    That’s it. There is no “calling and asking.”

    I can see that no players like the DFenders because it means they are stuck there and have little hope of joining the Lakers. — If there was a roster space available, then the Lakers would use it; by being on the DFenders means there isn’t a roster space available.

  • Huh?
    To poach a guy off the DFenders all another team has to do is offer him a guaranteed contract and a roster space.

    Then the Lakers have the opportunity to match.

    That’s it. There is no “calling and asking.”

    I can see that no players like the DFenders because it means they are stuck there and have little hope of joining the Lakers. — If there was a roster space available, then the Lakers would use it; by being on the DFenders means there isn’t a roster space available.

  • You are too focused on this year.
    Both Frazier and Holmes have a 10-year career ahead of them.

  • You are too focused on this year.
    Both Frazier and Holmes have a 10-year career ahead of them.

  • If they “grow” in the DLeague, then they get poached if they have any potential. And BOTH Frazier and Holmes have a lot of potential.

    Sending guys to the DLeague means they have little chance of a future for the Lakers.

  • If they “grow” in the DLeague, then they get poached if they have any potential. And BOTH Frazier and Holmes have a lot of potential.

    Sending guys to the DLeague means they have little chance of a future for the Lakers.

  • PG- D’Angelo Russell//Marcelo Huertas
    SG- Jordan Clarkson//Lou Williams
    C- Roy Hibbert//Tarik Black//Robert Upshaw
    SF- Kobe Bryant//Nick Young//Metta World Peace//Anthony Brown
    PF- Julius Randle//Brandon Bass//Ryan Kelly//Larry Nance Jr.
    I think this would be the most effective team as well as the most beneficially to the rookies development….I kept MWP because i believe if Nick Young regains any trade value he’s gone, most likely for an extra PG/SG

  • PG- D’Angelo Russell//Marcelo Huertas
    SG- Jordan Clarkson//Lou Williams
    C- Roy Hibbert//Tarik Black//Robert Upshaw
    SF- Kobe Bryant//Nick Young//Metta World Peace//Anthony Brown
    PF- Julius Randle//Brandon Bass//Ryan Kelly//Larry Nance Jr.
    I think this would be the most effective team as well as the most beneficially to the rookies development….I kept MWP because i believe if Nick Young regains any trade value he’s gone, most likely for an extra PG/SG

  • also, I can’t remember his screen name but that one kid that can’t spell and really needs hooked on phonics…. you know the Kome guy…

  • also, I can’t remember his screen name but that one kid that can’t spell and really needs hooked on phonics…. you know the Kome guy…

  • Huertas is a better player, but that hammy could bother him all season long and he’s already missed a lot of time working with his new teammates.

  • Huertas is a better player, but that hammy could bother him all season long and he’s already missed a lot of time working with his new teammates.

  • Don’t see him making the team to be honest, but this may mean they have interest in developing him in the d-league.

  • Don’t see him making the team to be honest, but this may mean they have interest in developing him in the d-league.

  • I don’t see a problem with it , just like last game CLARKSON started at the PG, and RUSSELL came in with the bench guys RUSSELL needs the time with the bench where the game may be a little slower. This should be worked out by the 28 th for our first season game, by that time Huertas should be up and running, we still have two weeks to get ready.

  • I don’t see a problem with it , just like last game CLARKSON started at the PG, and RUSSELL came in with the bench guys RUSSELL needs the time with the bench where the game may be a little slower. This should be worked out by the 28 th for our first season game, by that time Huertas should be up and running, we still have two weeks to get ready.

  • I agree on KELLY he has stepped up this season and the last game with 7 RB 15 PTS, AND PLAYING good D and he is a good end to end player.

  • I agree on KELLY he has stepped up this season and the last game with 7 RB 15 PTS, AND PLAYING good D and he is a good end to end player.

  • Nance JR is most likely to be better then MWP on D, they just have not given him much of a chance, he is taller stronger and faster and does not mind bumps and burses.

  • Nance JR is most likely to be better then MWP on D, they just have not given him much of a chance, he is taller stronger and faster and does not mind bumps and burses.

  • Last game was the first time in three years that I can remember KELLY playing his POS. @ the 4 and that was the best game all around he has had, they have had him at the # 3 spot, and that is not his game. Last game for KELLY 17 minutes 5/7 shooting 3/3 behind the line 3 AST. 1 BLK and 15 PTS.

  • Last game was the first time in three years that I can remember KELLY playing his POS. @ the 4 and that was the best game all around he has had, they have had him at the # 3 spot, and that is not his game. Last game for KELLY 17 minutes 5/7 shooting 3/3 behind the line 3 AST. 1 BLK and 15 PTS. And he is 6’11” tall and pretty fast.

  • He will get his self under control, he knows when he makes mistakes, and like any player they will get corrected, I would not get upset if he fouls out as long as he does it doing his job.

  • He will get his self under control, he knows when he makes mistakes, and like any player they will get corrected, I would not get upset if he fouls out as long as he does it doing his job.

  • Well if UPSHAW is going to the D-LEAGUE then we must have to keep SACRE and BLACK. you cant play C with only two players. Unless we use KELLY for a back up or NANCE JR.

  • Well if UPSHAW is going to the D-LEAGUE then we must have to keep SACRE and BLACK. you cant play C with only two players. Unless we use KELLY for a back up or NANCE JR.

  • Not if their signed with a guarantee, and I think they both have a small guarantee.

  • We really don’t need FRAZIER, OR HOLMES until they get some hours in the D-LEAGUE, we cant force those two to become NBA players over night and tie up spots where we need them.

  • We really don’t need FRAZIER, OR HOLMES until they get some hours in the D-LEAGUE, we cant force those two to become NBA players over night and tie up spots where we need them.

  • Have we for got BLACK was a ROOKIE last season, and did a very good job this guy is from end to end player full force all the time on the court.

  • Have we for got BLACK was a ROOKIE last season, and did a very good job this guy is from end to end player full force all the time on the court.

  • The LAKERS draw from the D-FENDERS , last year that’s were the brought up J. Brown.

  • The LAKERS draw from the D-FENDERS , last year that’s were the brought up J. Brown.

  • There will be a battle, (if) Hibbert plays tonight, he had a sore knee after that last game with 16 RB.

  • There will be a battle, (if) Hibbert plays tonight, he had a sore knee after that last game with 16 RB.

  • Ed Davis got to much money for us to keep him and still get the other players we needed.

  • Ed Davis got to much money for us to keep him and still get the other players we needed.

  • they wont get poached unless the lakers let them. we own our own team so every player on our dfenders the lakers own the rights

  • they wont get poached unless the lakers let them. we own our own team so every player on our dfenders the lakers own the rights

  • no they have to inform the lakers they plan to sign said player and the lakers have the right to match

  • no they have to inform the lakers they plan to sign said player and the lakers have the right to match

  • I’m liking the way Kobe’s playing, more like a Reggie Miller role. More of a outside jump shooter than inside, he could easily be around a couple more years if he keeps this up.

  • I’m liking the way Kobe’s playing, more like a Reggie Miller role. More of a outside jump shooter than inside, he could easily be around a couple more years if he keeps this up.

  • Doesn’t matter which players the Lakers recruit. As long as you have that useless coach who uses the old folk star as the centre piece of the team, the Lakers will continue to stay on the bottom. And oh yeah, this time the Lakers can’t blame its favorite scapegoat Lin.

  • Doesn’t matter which players the Lakers recruit. As long as you have that useless coach who uses the old folk star as the centre piece of the team, the Lakers will continue to stay on the bottom. And oh yeah, this time the Lakers can’t blame its favorite scapegoat Lin.

  • I wasn’t saying he’s not good. I was just clarifying that J Taylor’s point is maybe the FO would prefer guys that have multiyear deals. If we keep grooming Black we’re going to have to pay to keep him at the end of the year, and maybe investment wise if we have similar players he’s expendable.

  • I wasn’t saying he’s not good. I was just clarifying that J Taylor’s point is maybe the FO would prefer guys that have multiyear deals. If we keep grooming Black we’re going to have to pay to keep him at the end of the year, and maybe investment wise if we have similar players he’s expendable.

  • Admittedly though, he’s more than proved that he deserves a spot on this team playing against actual NBA competition.

  • Admittedly though, he’s more than proved that he deserves a spot on this team playing against actual NBA competition.

  • Funny how they didn’t mention Russell at all good or bad. The truth is his development will be a very slow process and expectations for him need to be scaled back a bit. Byron has him running with the second unit. Which is a smaller uptempo unit. That will will help Russell get easier assist in transition and off the spot up shooters in Williams and Young.

  • Funny how they didn’t mention Russell at all good or bad. The truth is his development will be a very slow process and expectations for him need to be scaled back a bit. Byron has him running with the second unit. Which is a smaller uptempo unit. That will will help Russell get easier assist in transition and off the spot up shooters in Williams and Young.

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