Game Recap: Kobe Bryant’s Near Triple-Double Leads Lakers Past Pistons
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The Los Angeles Lakers returned home to the Staples Center ready to end a four-game skid and despite the recent frustrations, the purple and gold are confident that they are making progress. However, they host the Detroit Pistons a team that is looking to end a three-game losing streak of their own after starting the season 5-1.

The Pistons will be finishing their back-to-back at Staples Center after losing their third straight to the Clippers 101-96 yesterday afternoon.

The Lakers will need strong performances their young guys in order to pull out a victory against a team that is also trying to get their season back on track.

First Quarter

Kobe kick-started the Lakers with a soft baseline jumper that hit nothing but the bottom of the net. Jordan Clarkson then got the offense going with a couple of back-to-back dimes followed by a three-pointer to give the Lakers an early 7-4 lead. Reggie Jackson answered back with back-to-back shots of his own to put the Pistons up by one. Clarkson then replied with yet another three of his own to take the lead 10-8. The Lakers had trouble taking care of the ball to begin the game with four turnovers midway through the first. Kentavious Caldwell- Pope started to rev up the Pistons, scoring eight of their first 14 points. Julius Randle finally ended a two-minute drought without a field goal on a nice finish at the rim to tie the game at 16. The Lakers second unit finished out the quarter with plenty of energy as they held a 21-18 lead after the first.

Second Quarter

The Lakers started off the second quarter playing tenacious defense, forcing two early turnovers while Larry Nance Jr. got the offense going with back-to-back buckets capped off by a thunderous dunk to put the purple and gold ahead 23-18. The Lakers started to roll going on an 11-0 run before it was ended by a three from Jackson. Kobe started to get aggressive, attacking the rim for the and-one as the Lakers took a 32-25 lead. Kobe at this point led both teams in rebounds and assists with four each. Strong defense from Nance forced an Ersan Ilyasova turnover which then led to a Nick Young three, increasing the lead to nine. The Lakers at this point were shooting 3-for-5 from deep while holding the Pistons to just 29 points midway through the second quarter. Detroit suddenly got into rhythm with a 7-0 run of their own to cut the lead to three, 39-36. The Lakers finally ended the run with a beautiful assist from Kobe to Randle for the strong finish at the rim while getting fouled in the process, Julius would finish the three-point play. Kobe continued to share the love, finding D’Angelo Russell for the three with his sixth assist of the game, to put the Lakers up 47-38 with two minutes left in the half. The Pistons continued to battle back with runs of their own to close the gap 48-44 to end the half.

Third Quarter

The second half started slowly for both teams until the Lakers struck first with a floater from Clarkson. Jackson then answered back with three to slim the lead 52-47. A mixture of tough defense and poor shooting from both teams as they combined for just four field goals with seven minutes left in the third quarter. Kobe continued to be a spark on offense with a nice layup followed by a dish to Roy Hibbert for his seventh assist of the game and a 56-51 Laker lead. Stiff defense from Los Angeles would lead to fast-break points from Russell on a dish by Randle to take a five-point lead. However, Detroit continued to answer the Lakers shot-for-shot with a bucket from Spencer Dinwiddie to bring the score to 58-57. Following a Randle jumper, the Pistons went on a 5-0 run to take a two-point lead with three minutes left in the third. Tough defense by the purple and gold would help them regain the lead with a dunk from Brandon Bass. The two sides continued to trade buckets as they ended the third quarter tied, 66-66.

Fourth Quarter

Nick Young got the Lakers on the board first with a jumper. Williams split a pair of free throws, but the Pistons matched the Lakers every step of the way and a three from Tolliver put Detroit ahead 72-69. Kobe picked up his eighth assist with an outlet pass to Young and Williams found Bass for a layup as the Lakers regained a one point lead. A crazy possession ended in Kobe getting into the paint for a floater. A Nick Young three capped a 9-0 Lakers run as they went ahead 78-72. A massive alley-oop to Drummond ended that Lakers run and cut the lead to four points midway through the fourth. A pair of free throws from Hibbert put the Lakers back ahead by six. Kobe found Hibbert for an easy dunk and followed that up with a three pointer as the Lakers increased their lead to 11 with four minutes left. Dinwiddie converted a three-point play, but Clarkson hit a nice jumper in the paint to respond for the Lakers, who led by 10, 87-77 with under three minutes left. The Lakers pushed ahead by 12, but the Pistons continued to fight as Dinwiddie scored four straight to bring Detroit to within eight with 90 seconds left. Clarkson split a pair of free throws to keep LA up nine with just under a minute left. The Lakers got a stop to ice the game and they would pick up their second win of the season, 97-85.

The FT line, limiting 2nd chance opportunities and better overall team facilitating helped to assure a lakers win. Although Kobe went for 19 shot attempts he had a decent showing given he helped to get other players involved.

Russell has to continue to improve on his jumper given his shots fall short too often, likely due to his low-lift jumper when shooting the long ball.

  • The FT line, limiting 2nd chance opportunities and better overall team facilitating helped to assure a lakers win. Kobe put up 19 shot attempts (close to a triple double) but most importantly helped to get others involved.

    Russell has to continue to improve on his jumper given his shots fall short often, likely due to his low-lift jumper when shooting the long ball.

  • Decent performance. Not the prettiest win but the team improved again. The team play was also much better. However, the scouting report on Randle is out and it will be interesting to see how he responds. Nance just keeps surprising me. The kid has a good future in this league

  • Decent performance. Not the prettiest win but the team improved again. The team play was also much better. However, the scouting report on Randle is out and it will be interesting to see how he responds. Nance just keeps surprising me. The kid has a good future in this league

  • BS is an idiot, Kobe is going to blow something playing that many min a night.

  • BS is an idiot, Kobe is going to blow something playing that many min a night.

  • Nance with only 17 min. He needs to be getting more. Young played very well. I’m glad he was in for Lou at the end.

    Overall a good team performance.

  • Nance with only 17 min. He needs to be getting more. Young played very well. I’m glad he was in for Lou at the end.

    Overall a good team performance.

  • We are improving, that’s no doubt. If the season started today we probally don’t lose to the Wolves and Denver in home. Our defense is waaay better. Or screensets in offense today was great (specially with Nance on the floor because Randle is a ball stopper).

  • No way he could keep that up. He should be getting 5-10 min a night to set the tone but A Brown or Nance should be getting the rest of his min.

  • We are improving, that’s no doubt. If the season started today we probally don’t lose to the Wolves and Denver in home. Our defense is waaay better. Or screensets in offense today was great (specially with Nance on the floor because Randle is a ball stopper).

  • No way he could keep that up. He should be getting 5-10 min a night to set the tone but A Brown or Nance should be getting the rest of his min.

  • because he will not play tomorrow, and after that he will have 4 days to rest.

  • because he will not play tomorrow, and after that he will have 4 days to rest.

  • Nance looks very smooth as well. I would at least experiment with him at the 3. He plays good defense. He could take some time of MWP

  • Agreed. Nance really helps the flow of the offense, his bball IQ is high.

  • Only took 10 games for Byron to go with the hot hand (Nick Young) down the stretch over Lou. Kobe played very well again, hopefully he is not playing tomorrow cause seriously, two games in a row Byron has been riding him. We all know what happened last time he did that.

  • Nance looks very smooth as well. I would at least experiment with him at the 3. He plays good defense. He could take some time of MWP

  • Agreed. Nance really helps the flow of the offense, his bball IQ is high.

  • Only took 10 games for Byron to go with the hot hand (Nick Young) down the stretch over Lou. Kobe played very well again, hopefully he is not playing tomorrow cause seriously, two games in a row Byron has been riding him. We all know what happened last time he did that.

  • We slow the pace of the game. And we are playing much better pick n’ roll defense. Because of that Hibbert is playing very good. Since Heat game when Whiteside killed him

  • BS baby steps. 10 games is actually fast for him to make a smart adjustment LOL.

  • We slow the pace of the game. And we are playing much better pick n’ roll defense. Because of that Hibbert is playing very good. Since Heat game when Whiteside killed him

  • BS baby steps. 10 games is actually fast for him to make a smart adjustment LOL.

  • Great win, really appreciated the effort although I’m a little disappointed Russell didn’t get to finish tonight.

  • Kobe said on @TWCSportsNet in on-court interview that his back and legs don’t feel great. Looks like playing in PHX tomorrow is in doubt

  • Nick has improved a lot. Plays within himself more and actually passes now. To be honest I did not think he had it in him. Props to the man

  • Great win, really appreciated the effort although I’m a little disappointed Russell didn’t get to finish tonight.

  • Kobe said on @TWCSportsNet in on-court interview that his back and legs don’t feel great. Looks like playing in PHX tomorrow is in doubt

  • Nick has improved a lot. Plays within himself more and actually passes now. To be honest I did not think he had it in him. Props to the man

  • Nick Young is playing good D. Glad to see. Hes valuable playing that way

  • Nick Young is playing good D. Glad to see. Hes valuable playing that way

  • He was playing good and isn’t playing back to back anyways so yes there was.

  • He was playing good and isn’t playing back to back anyways so yes there was.

  • That’s not good. But it is a back to back so it’s probably for the best if he sits out again.

  • That’s not good. But it is a back to back so it’s probably for the best if he sits out again.

  • Lou is good in low minutes, Byron was trying to play him 30 minutes when he should play 16 to 20 minutes to be effective

  • Lou hurt his shooting hand in the Nets game. Hopefully he bounces back.

  • Lou is good in low minutes, Byron was trying to play him 30 minutes when he should play 16 to 20 minutes to be effective

  • Lou hurt his shooting hand in the Nets game. Hopefully he bounces back.

  • more to he’s playing within the team instead of jacking up a bunch of contested 3’s like he was at the beginning of the season.

  • more to he’s playing within the team instead of jacking up a bunch of contested 3’s like he was at the beginning of the season.

  • This was a nice win over a halfway decent NBA team. Kobe’s by far the best passer and playmaker on the team. I’d like him to drop a lot more dimes in his final season. Kobe playing 36 minutes, while Clarkson and Russell play less than 30 minutes is hilarious. B. Scott’s awesome! LOL

  • This was a nice win over a halfway decent NBA team. Kobe’s by far the best passer and playmaker on the team. I’d like him to drop a lot more dimes in his final season. Kobe playing 36 minutes, while Clarkson and Russell play less than 30 minutes is hilarious. B. Scott’s awesome! LOL

  • Russell, but both can do it. But Russell has better passing instincts out of that high pick.

  • Russell, but both can do it. But Russell has better passing instincts out of that high pick.

  • Not clear that it’s Kobe though. Hibbert is really helping set the tone defensively. Nance and Young played huge off the bench. Looked like a team win.

  • better with kobe playing well rounded and only taking 4 3’s. Much different than how he was playing earlier (avg. as many 3’s as curry).

  • Not clear that it’s Kobe though. Hibbert is really helping set the tone defensively. Nance and Young played huge off the bench. Looked like a team win.

  • better with kobe playing well rounded and only taking 4 3’s. Much different than how he was playing earlier (avg. as many 3’s as curry).

  • kobe was by far the best starter +/- of +14 and an argument can be he was the best player

  • kobe was by far the best starter +/- of +14 and an argument can be he was the best player

  • i will give byron this credit he has changed his system a bit allowing kobe to play more like a sg

  • he can be dropping dimes. He no doubt has the skill/experience. I want him to have that well rounded role. not taking double digit 3 attempts

  • i will give byron this credit he has changed his system a bit allowing kobe to play more like a sg

  • he can be dropping dimes. He no doubt has the skill/experience. I want him to have that well rounded role. not taking double digit 3 attempts

  • Let’s just give cj what he wants to hear, Kobe won that game all by his damn self. Without him, the Lakers would have been blown out by 50 points and probably the entire Staples Center would have collapsed and may be even the world would have ended. Thank you Kobe.

  • THE GOOD: defense looked a lot better; ball movement improved
    THE BAD: half court sets are PnR or nothing
    THE UGLY: way too many turnovers again…yikes.

  • Yes, I concur. It’s impossible to out tank the Sixers, and the Lakers could still lose their top 3 protected pick with the worst record in the league. It’s just going to be tough to likely watch the Lakers lose that pick to the same franchise.

  • Let’s just give cj what he wants to hear, Kobe won that game all by his damn self. Without him, the Lakers would have been blown out by 50 points and probably the entire Staples Center would have collapsed and may be even the world would have ended. Thank you Kobe.

  • THE GOOD: defense looked a lot better; ball movement improved
    THE BAD: half court sets are PnR or nothing
    THE UGLY: way too many turnovers again…yikes.

  • Yes, I concur. It’s impossible to out tank the Sixers, and the Lakers could still lose their top 3 protected pick with the worst record in the league. It’s just going to be tough to likely watch the Lakers lose that pick to the same wretched franchise.

  • A win is a win. What type of dumb question is that? Stop being a negative nancy.

  • If +/- is the measure of the best player…Nick Young is it! He had a +20 and Nance had a +15.

  • A win is a win. What type of dumb question is that? Stop being a negative nancy.

  • If +/- is the measure of the best player…Nick Young is it! He had a +20 and Nance had a +15.

  • I’m more impressed with the D than the Win…..Defense will keep you in the game….The word for Tonite….Improvement.

  • not what i want to hear. i want to hear you dayral and a few others hoe come in and bash kobe when ever you can come and give kobe his due credit

  • It was a conversation starter. I’ve never encountered people with thinner skin than at LakersNation.

  • IT IS TIME TO GET RID OF PRINCETON OFFENSE…MAKE SOME SIMPLE P N R GAME, DRIVE AND KICK …MOVE THE BALL

  • I’m more impressed with the D than the Win…..Defense will keep you in the game….The word for Tonite….Improvement.

  • not what i want to hear. i want to hear you dayral and a few others hoe come in and bash kobe when ever you can come and give kobe his due credit

  • It was a conversation starter. I’ve never encountered people with thinner skin than at LakersNation. Granted I haven’t been on the University of Missouri campus lately either.

  • IT IS TIME TO GET RID OF PRINCETON OFFENSE…MAKE SOME SIMPLE P N R GAME, DRIVE AND KICK …MOVE THE BALL

  • I don’t have thin skin. If you wanted to discuss their horrendous season you could have picked any of their numerous losses they’ve had in which the discussions reached well over 500 comments. Not today, satan.

  • Unlike you, I can admit when Kobe plays well, Kobe played well, and most importantly he played for the team and not his damn self. You on the other hand will never admit the opposite, the many many times he does not play well. Instead you will blame it on “the system”, or “Kobe ate a bad hotdog before the game”.

  • I don’t have thin skin. If you wanted to discuss their horrendous season you could have picked any of their numerous losses they’ve had in which the discussions reached well over 500 comments. Not today, satan.

  • Unlike you, I can admit when Kobe plays well, Kobe played well, and most importantly he played for the team and not his damn self. You on the other hand will never admit the opposite, the many many times he does not play well. Instead you will blame it on “the system”, or “Kobe ate a bad hotdog before the game”.

  • i have blamed kobe this season i have said multiple times that sac town game he was hurting us

  • I’ve been tough on Kobe. Tonight he did better. Only 4 three’s (happy), more well rounded 8 reb. 9 ast. (happy). BUT the 6-19 shooting still needs improvement.

  • i have blamed kobe this season i have said multiple times that sac town game he was hurting us

  • I’ve been tough on Kobe. Tonight he did better. Only 4 three’s (happy), more well rounded 8 reb. 9 ast. (happy). BUT the 6-19 shooting still needs improvement.

  • you never give him his due. you come on and make a list about how kobe hurt us but wont come in and do the other way around for games like this

  • you never give him his due. you come on and make a list about how kobe hurt us but wont come in and do the other way around for games like this

  • You’re a crybaby, goodnight satan. Maybe you can bait someone else into talking to you.

  • ty this is all i ask if you can stand there a bash a player one night be mane enough to come back and praise him another

  • You’re a crybaby, goodnight satan. Maybe you can bait someone else into talking to you.

  • ty this is all i ask if you can stand there a bash a player one night be mane enough to come back and praise him another

  • He over played kobe for one lousy win, this season is about development not about kobe, also why doesn’t he post julius randle? It would eliminate chucking the ball up, and would help randle get in the paint and do his thing, they clearly have adjusted to the way he plays, and randle is stubbornly doing the same thing over and over, does byron even tell these guys anything?

  • I thought we ran our best non P&R offense when Nance was playing. Bass actually played well also tonight.

  • He tells them to play hard. That is the extent of his coaching ability.

  • He over played kobe for one lousy win, this season is about development not about kobe, also why doesn’t he post julius randle? It would eliminate chucking the ball up, and would help randle get in the paint and do his thing, they clearly have adjusted to the way he plays, and randle is stubbornly doing the same thing over and over, does byron even tell these guys anything?

  • I thought we ran our best non P&R offense when Nance was playing. Bass actually played well also tonight.

  • He tells them to play hard. That is the extent of his coaching ability.

  • Exactly, as long as he is gonna over play the vets, as the youngsters watch, they will be empty wins, hes going to need the kids down the road if he actually thinks hes making in the playoffs anyway so why not put them in the fire.

  • exactly. I don’t enjoy critiquing kobe but I will if I think he is hurting the team in a game. I’m happy when I can praise him/any player.

  • Exactly, as long as he is gonna over play the vets, as the youngsters watch, they will be empty wins, hes going to need the kids down the road if he actually thinks hes making in the playoffs anyway so why not put them in the fire.

  • exactly. I don’t enjoy critiquing kobe but I will if I think he is hurting the team in a game. I’m happy when I can praise him/any player.

  • Seriously, I just said he played well, what more do you want? I even said it three times, if you look at my earlier post.

  • When we have hibbert as center we need team rebounding. Clark, DLO, and Kobe did a good job helping.

  • Seriously, I just said he played well, what more do you want? I even said it three times, if you look at my earlier post.

  • When we have hibbert as center we need team rebounding. Clark, DLO, and Kobe did a good job helping.

  • Agreed. Kobe seems to play best till the 20 min mark and then his productivity starts declining. Randle needs to start doing more. If he continues being stubborn BS should sub in Nance. Still things are developing. Happy with the improvements.

  • Agreed. Kobe seems to play best till the 20 min mark and then his productivity starts declining. Randle needs to start doing more. If he continues being stubborn BS should sub in Nance. Still things are developing. Happy with the improvements.

  • Best player? Not really. The defense won this game and he wasn’t the best defender by a long shot.

  • Yeah if randle becomes stubborn and doesn’t listen, you can gohead and sub him in, that goes for anyone including kobe, lou and nick, anyone.

  • You have to say it every post, or else he doesn’t think you mean it.

  • Best player? Not really. The defense won this game and he wasn’t the best defender by a long shot.

  • Yeah if randle becomes stubborn and doesn’t listen, you can gohead and sub him in, that goes for anyone including kobe, lou and nick, anyone.

  • You have to say it every post, or else he doesn’t think you mean it.

  • I like him over mudiay so far. Mudiay’s TO’s and shooting % are terrible. He is averaging well in ast. and reb. because of high minutes/usage %. McConnell may be competition of because of his elevation playing for a team like the 76ers

  • your really being foolish. he was a near trip dub with 2 steals and a block kobe was by far the best player tonight

  • Doubtful. He will have to become a lot more productive and aggressive. He’s a long ways from all-rookie 1st team.

  • I was impressed with D’Angelo, Clarkson, and Randle

    Our Future PG D’Lo, needs to keep working at getting to Basket on offense and Dishing (if need be) – Also

    Would like better “fight” on D from the Young Core

  • I like him over mudiay so far. Mudiay’s TO’s and shooting % are terrible. He is averaging well in ast. and reb. because of high minutes/usage %. McConnell may be competition of because of his elevation playing for a team like the 76ers

  • your really being foolish. he was a near trip dub with 2 steals and a block kobe was by far the best player tonight

  • Doubtful. He will have to become a lot more productive and aggressive. He’s a long ways from all-rookie 1st team.

  • I was impressed with D’Angelo, Clarkson, and Randle

    Our Future PG D’Lo, needs to keep working at getting to Basket on offense and Dishing (if need be) – Also

    Would like better “fight” on D from the Young Core

  • Mudiay is doing a lot to help his team win. They’re 5-5 and he’s a big part of it.

  • Mudiay is doing a lot to help his team win. They’re 5-5 and he’s a big part of it.

  • Clearly it was a priority. Good to see them help Hibbert, he’s been great this year.

  • Clearly it was a priority. Good to see them help Hibbert, he’s been great this year.

  • Scroll down, I said it before you even got here. So you can quit crying in your Kobe knickers.

  • They were hiding Kobe on defense guarding Illysovia. Containing Drummond and Jackson is what helped us win.

  • Scroll down, I said it before you even got here. So you can quit crying in your Kobe knickers.

  • They were hiding Kobe on defense guarding Illysovia. Containing Drummond and Jackson is what helped us win.

  • I think the biggest problem with Randle is lacks of stamina/fitness. He looks pretty tired when he plays a long stretch. When Nance Jr, played a big minutes in the 4th and then Randle came in, he looks re-energized. Nance Jr on the other hand looks ready to play big minutes. Unfortunately, BS doesn’t recognize this problem and will continues put Randle on the floor. And as a result, the Lakers will suffer.

  • I think the biggest problem with Randle is lacks of stamina/fitness. He looks pretty tired when he plays continuous minutes. When Nance Jr, played big minutes in the 4th and then Randle came in, he looks re-energized. Nance Jr on the other hand looks ready to play big minutes. Unfortunately, BS doesn’t recognize this problem and will continues put Randle on the floor. And as a result, the Lakers will suffer.

  • I actually agree with Hollinger’s stats. His TO’s, shooting %, and efficiency is hurting them. Estimated value added (-15.7) Estimated wins added (-.5)

  • To be honest Mudiay gets bailed out by his teammates because his turnovers are way up, but the reason he has his assist way up is because his time out on the floor. Also, he does have teammates that already know how to play with each other. Unlike us we have a complete new roster. I get your point though Mudiay is competitive but I rather take a PG that can pass with out turning the ball over as much.

  • Baby steps are progress. Good team win. Absolutely loved how Kobe played. Need to see more of that. Tougher challenge for the kid’s tomorrow night. Suns boast the most dangerous back court in the league. Hibbert and Randle will have their hands full also. Suns are high energy. Gotta try to mmatch them. Let’s go get’em young bucks!

  • I actually agree with Hollinger’s stats. His TO’s, shooting %, and efficiency is hurting them. Estimated value added (-15.7) Estimated wins added (-.5)

  • To be honest Mudiay gets bailed out by his teammates because his turnovers are way up, but the reason he has his assist way up is because his time out on the floor. Also, he does have teammates that already know how to play with each other. Unlike us we have a complete new roster. I get your point though Mudiay is competitive but I rather take a PG that can pass with out turning the ball over as much.

  • Baby steps are progress. Good team win. Absolutely loved how Kobe played. Need to see more of that. Tougher challenge for the kid’s tomorrow night. Suns boast the most dangerous back court in the league. Hibbert and Randle will have their hands full also. Suns are high energy. Gotta try to match them. Let’s go get’em young bucks!

  • lakers defense:

    3rd in nba in 3 point %
    13th in fg%
    14th in pps
    7th in blocks
    22 in ppg

    alot better then last season

  • Props to Scott! He had them working specifically on box out drills. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

  • lakers defense:

    3rd in nba in 3 point %
    13th in fg%
    14th in pps
    7th in blocks
    22 in ppg

    alot better then last season

  • Props to Scott! He had them working specifically on box out drills. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

  • Actually I wish Russell would be getting more TO. He needs to be more aggressive and push the envelop. That’s what I like about Mudiay’s game.

  • Actually I wish Russell would be getting more TO. He needs to be more aggressive and push the envelop. That’s what I like about Mudiay’s game.

  • His numbers are bad, so I am assuming he brings his TO down and shooting improves. Still I think he’s their #1 option so defenses are keying on him. That’s a lot to ask from a 19 year old. The fact that they are 5-5 tells me he’s delivering even if he’s not pretty right now.

  • Jameer Nelson is a big help for Mudiay. That’s a real pro a PG backing him up. Russell does not have that.

  • His numbers are bad, so I am assuming he brings his TO down and shooting improves. Still I think he’s their #1 option so defenses are keying on him. That’s a lot to ask from a 19 year old. The fact that they are 5-5 tells me he’s delivering even if he’s not pretty right now.

  • Jameer Nelson is a big help for Mudiay. That’s a real pro PG backing him up. Russell does not have that.

  • He’s averaging 9pts this year. Not exactly lighting it up is it? Morris I thought was their SF and he’s averaging 15.

  • He’s averaging 9pts this year. Not exactly lighting it up is it? Morris I thought was their SF and he’s averaging 15.

  • would have been nice with the 7 footer, in d League.

    Big Upshaw, just needs to keep his Spirits high, and Work on issues

  • I agree that Russle should be more aggressive but to be honest learning how to take care of the ball at this stage of his career is a great thing because old habits can slow his development. Either way if you look up his stats from college his TO & assist ratio was good and he played heavy minutes.

  • would have been nice with the 7 footer, in d League.

    Big Upshaw, just needs to keep his Spirits high, and Work on issues

  • I agree that Russle should be more aggressive but to be honest learning how to take care of the ball at this stage of his career is a great thing because old habits can slow his development. Either way if you look up his stats from college his TO & assist ratio was good and he played heavy minutes.

  • Not too worried bout the TO with a rook. Look at all of your top PG’s around the league? All have fairly high turnover averages. That aggression translates into a player not afraid to gamble. Gotta have that as a playmaking beast.

  • Not too worried bout the TO with a rook. Look at all of your top PG’s around the league? All have fairly high turnover averages. That aggression translates into a player not afraid to gamble. Gotta have that as a playmaking beast.

  • The Kid’s will have the stage tomorrow less Scott trips and plays Lou 40 minutes.

  • The Kid’s will have the stage tomorrow less Scott trips and plays Lou 40 minutes.

  • If the Lakers can beat the Suns in PHX, then you know things really have turned a corner. Not been a happy hunting ground of late though, 8 losses in a row there.

  • If the Lakers can beat the Suns in PHX, then you know things really have turned a corner. Not been a happy hunting ground of late though, 8 losses in a row there 6 out of 8 have been blowouts.

  • Scott’s stubborn insistence in rolling with non-efficient players late in the game has cost them by way of bad game execution.

    With relation to Randle, at the start of the 4th he settled for a
    fade-away shot close to the ft line while trying to back his way inside the paint. Bad game execution…

    Randle likely hit 3 out of 10 shot attempts but don’t see this changing, especially after watching Tracy Murray work with Randle on this shot.

  • Scott’s stubborn insistence in rolling with non-efficient players late in the game has cost them by way of bad offensive execution.

    With relation to Randle, at the start of the 4th he settled for a
    fade-away shot close to the ft line while trying to back his way inside the paint. Bad game execution…

    Randle likely hit 3 of those 10 shot attempts but don’t see this changing, especially after watching Tracy Murray work with Randle on this shot.

  • Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 57m57 minutes ago
    Jordan Clarkson said Lakers w more assists tonight because they stuck to actions in their offense instead of calling too many ball screens

  • Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 57m57 minutes ago
    Jordan Clarkson said Lakers w more assists tonight because they stuck to actions in their offense instead of calling too many ball screens

  • The Lobs to Nance and drops ins to Hibbert were all from Princeton offensive sets.

  • The Lobs to Nance and drops ins to Hibbert were all from Princeton offensive sets.

  • Suns are playing very HIGH level ball right now. Would be major to beat them tomorrow night. MAJOR!!

  • Suns are playing very HIGH level ball right now. Would be major to beat them tomorrow night. MAJOR!!

  • Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 1h1 hour ago

    Lakers played their best defense of the season against the Pistons in the 4th, with Nick Young! Detroit on 2nd night of b2b ran out of juice

    Mike Trudell ‏@LakersReporter 1h1 hour ago

    Scott said Nick Young “did all the little things” defensively tonight, a reason he stayed on the floor in crunch time.

  • Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 1h1 hour ago

    Lakers played their best defense of the season against the Pistons in the 4th, with Nick Young! Detroit on 2nd night of b2b ran out of juice

    Mike Trudell ‏@LakersReporter 1h1 hour ago

    Scott said Nick Young “did all the little things” defensively tonight, a reason he stayed on the floor in crunch time.

  • honestly with better roations we are 6-4 atm its sad scott hurt us to start the season

  • honestly with better roations we are 6-4 atm its sad scott hurt us to start the season

  • Ryan Ward 44m44 minutes ago

    Kobe Bryant on whether he will travel/play with the team tomorrow against Suns: “No.”

    Ryan Ward ‏ 43m43 minutes ago

    Kobe Bryant on his bad back: “not looking forward to walking to the car. Seriously.”

    Ryan Ward 1h1 hour ago

    Jordan Clarkson without Kobe tomorrow: “we just got to play together, to play the same way.”

  • Ryan Ward 44m44 minutes ago

    Kobe Bryant on whether he will travel/play with the team tomorrow against Suns: “No.”

    Ryan Ward ‏ 43m43 minutes ago

    Kobe Bryant on his bad back: “not looking forward to walking to the car. Seriously.”

    Ryan Ward 1h1 hour ago

    Jordan Clarkson without Kobe tomorrow: “we just got to play together, to play the same way.”

  • Nah, we are too raw. The team was/is still pretty much in training camp mode, learning how to play with each other. We saw the same thing at the beginning of 12-13, and that group was all vets.

  • Nah, we are too raw. The team was/is still pretty much in training camp mode, learning how to play with each other. We saw the same thing at the beginning of 12-13, and that group was all vets.

  • Nice to see Kobe finally play a solid all around game. My thought – since he’s such a great passer move him from SF back to a guard & try these combos: Russell PG, Kobe SG: Kobe PG, Clarkson SG: Kobe PG, Williams SG. Young playing well right now so start him @ SF with A Brown getting minutes as backup.

  • Nice to see Kobe finally play a solid all around game. My thought – since he’s such a great passer move him from SF back to a guard & try these combos: Russell PG, Kobe SG: Kobe PG, Clarkson SG: Kobe PG, Williams SG. Young playing well right now so start him @ SF with A Brown getting minutes as backup.

  • They won….
    Where’s Russell????

    Oh yeah, when the game ends, “Not in the picture.”

  • They won….
    Where’s Russell????

    Oh yeah, when the game ends, “Not in the picture.”

  • Whatevaz…
    Do you realize that the team is mathematically on pace for 16 wins.
    Outside of about 5 times in history, 16 wins would be the #1 pick.

    #1 or #2, it doesn’t matter…

  • Whatevaz…
    Do you realize that the team is mathematically on pace for 16 wins.
    Outside of about 5 times in history, 16 wins would be the #1 pick.

    #1 or #2, it doesn’t matter…

  • I kinda agree…
    Obviously, he’s not ready as he’s been inactive.
    But, even a few minutes might be good for him.

  • I kinda agree…
    Obviously, he’s not ready as he’s been inactive.
    But, even a few minutes might be good for him.

  • Its true I was telling the guys on here when he goes for the block someone else have to go for the rebound like they did on Pacers, Roy only have low rebounds cause of his blocking, he not quick to come back like Howard, he most of the time fall

  • The main problem with Kobe being a facilitator is that it takes up too much energy.

    Kobe said in preseason that it’s best that he doesn’t run around and be the guy setting up the offense.

    But tonight, I think he and Scott wanted to win. And that today’s “rookie lesson” was about “doing what it takes to win.”

  • Its true I was telling the guys on here when he goes for the block someone else have to go for the rebound like they did on Pacers, Roy only have low rebounds cause of his blocking, he not quick to come back like Howard, he most of the time fall

  • The main problem with Kobe being a facilitator is that it takes up too much energy.

    Kobe said in preseason that it’s best that he doesn’t run around and be the guy setting up the offense.

    But tonight, I think he and Scott wanted to win. And that today’s “rookie lesson” was about “doing what it takes to win.”

  • When Upshaw is better than Sacre he gets pulled up (and Sacre Cut).

    I bet it happens in December or before January 10 when contracts guarantee.

  • When Upshaw is better than Sacre he gets pulled up (and Sacre Cut).

    I bet it happens in December or before January 10 when contracts guarantee.

  • I know that you say that, but given the conditioning program he went through in preseason, I’m not sure that’s possible.

    That’s like saying a guy who trains for a marathon looks winded during a 10k.

  • I know that you say that, but given the conditioning program he went through in preseason, I’m not sure that’s possible.

    That’s like saying a guy who trains for a marathon looks winded during a 10k.

  • Will you give props to Scott for benching Russell instead of Young (and getting the win) too?

  • Will you give props to Scott for benching Russell instead of Young (and getting the win) too?

  • Scott’s not letting him be “flashy” enough to make the team.

    I could see Nance getting more votes just due to highlight reels.

  • Scott’s not letting him be “flashy” enough to make the team.

    I could see Nance getting more votes just due to highlight reels.

  • Mudiay is out of control and reckeless.

    Russell is in control and being restrained.

    Which do you want?

  • Mudiay is out of control and reckeless.

    Russell is in control and being restrained.

    Which do you want?

  • Nah, that 0-8 preseason was the inception. It was exactly the same thing in rawness.

  • Young’s gone at the December 15 trade window.
    Maybe Kelly, and maybe Black.

    I think Holmes and Upshaw are being stashed. And JBrown might be part of the second act when he comes back from China.

  • Nah, that 0-8 preseason was the inception. It was exactly the same thing in rawness.

  • Young’s gone at the December 15 trade window.
    Maybe Kelly, and maybe Black.

    I think Holmes and Upshaw are being stashed. And JBrown might be part of the second act when he comes back from China.

  • Ugly game but great win nonetheless. Superb performance from my boy Russ. Another near triple double performance. A shout out to BS, let Russ plays at least 35mins, let him dominate the game. Dont be a fooool, BS. Russ is the answer!!!!! He will lead us to playoff!!! Last season 1-9, this season we started 2-8. PLAYOFF BABE!!!

  • Randle besides his right hand and shooting has a thing or 2 to improve which is vital too, STAMINA AND ENDURANCE….his body is stopping him right now

  • Randle besides his right hand and shooting has a thing or 2 to improve which is vital too, STAMINA AND ENDURANCE….his body is stopping him right now

  • Let’s hope so troll, but it’ll require him to play this type of style since he can’t carry the team as in his prime.

  • Let’s hope so troll, but it’ll require him to play this type of style since he can’t carry the team as in his prime.

  • That depends on who “We” is. There are literally people who post on this site who think Kobe is still the best player in the league.

  • That depends on who “We” is. There are literally people who post on this site who think Kobe is still the best player in the league.

  • Maybe he should shut his yapper, especially since he see’s himself winning a title while being the coach.

  • Maybe he should shut his yapper, especially since he see’s himself winning a title while being the coach.

  • No trolling here buddy. Just stating the obvious. Kobe’s done.
    The numbers show it. He can’t even play back to back games anymore. I just hope he has a healthy final season.

  • No trolling here buddy. Just stating the obvious. Kobe’s done.
    The numbers show it. He can’t even play back to back games anymore. I just hope he has a healthy final season.

  • Shssss …. Be careful. There many BS fan boys wandering around here. They can be nasty!

  • Jc needs to learn how to play lockdown defense..
    Mwp shud help him in that area..

  • It’s been a lot better but rebounds are the worst. They won the boards this game and they won the game. All the losses they got worked on the glass. No coincidence on what their biggest problem is.

  • It’s been a lot better but rebounds are the worst. They won the boards this game and they won the game. All the losses they got worked on the glass. No coincidence on what their biggest problem is.

  • nah Jahlil, Towns, or Mudiay will win. They have no pressure compared to Russell, are free to do whatever they want, and aren’t expected to make playoffs.

  • nah Jahlil, Towns, or Mudiay will win. They have no pressure compared to Russell, are free to do whatever they want, and aren’t expected to make playoffs.

  • you have 0 clue on what the princeton does. It’s all about ball movement, screen and rolls. People just got to actually run out and move instead of stand around. Look at how San Antonio runs it. People have to buy into the system.

  • you have 0 clue on what the princeton does. It’s all about ball movement, screen and rolls. People just got to actually run out and move instead of stand around. Look at how San Antonio runs it. People have to buy into the system.

  • Upshaw 21 years old – that would be about the same age, as the current four Laker Youth. My own personal “eye’ test, told me that Upshaw was slightly better on the Shot blocking / shot distrupting side of things. However, and apparently Mitch / Byron had other Matrixs, when deciding back-up center

  • Upshaw 21 years old – that would be about the same age, as the current four Laker Youth. My own personal “eye’ test, told me that Upshaw was slightly better on the Shot blocking / shot distrupting side of things. However, and apparently Mitch / Byron had other Matrixs, when deciding back-up center

  • Upshaw was slightly better at shot blocking, and much worse at just about everything else…which is probably why every other team in the league passed on him three times.

  • Upshaw was slightly better at shot blocking, and much worse at just about everything else…which is probably why every other team in the league passed on him three times.

  • LOL where did u come from dude? U expect Lakers to make playoff? LOL so funny …..

  • So you’re happy Russell didn’t contribute more to the victory? Interesting…

  • So you’re happy Russell didn’t contribute more to the victory? Interesting…

  • I know your point was to hit the Russell fans, but I have to admit that this is hilarious!!! IJS!

  • I know your point was to hit the Russell fans, but I have to admit that this is hilarious!!! IJS!

  • And then there’s people like you who bash him when there’s no point. The Lakers won, he played well…end of story. Why insult him or his fans? Just makes you seem pathetic

  • And then there’s people like you who bash him when there’s no point. The Lakers won, he played well…end of story. Why insult him or his fans? Just makes you seem pathetic

  • I said last week that I would start Randle and Nance when Kobe Sit out and one of these fans says I’m crazy or whatever but my reason is to put Randle at the 3 and make them interchane assignments on Defense but Randle can push the ball off rebounds… It’s experimental… Nothing to lose,Kobe is out and we know what Metta brings.

  • I said last week that I would start Randle and Nance when Kobe Sit out and one of these fans says I’m crazy or whatever but my reason is to put Randle at the 3 and make them interchane assignments on Defense but Randle can push the ball off rebounds… It’s experimental… Nothing to lose,Kobe is out and we know what Metta brings.

  • Lou was playing like trash before that game. He only played well during preseason and the first official game

  • Lou was playing like trash before that game. He only played well during preseason and the first official game

  • And Nick young was arguably the second best player yesterday. Sometimes +/- speaks the truth…other times it screws you over if you’re on a bad group

  • And Nick young was arguably the second best player yesterday. Sometimes +/- speaks the truth…other times it screws you over if you’re on a bad group

  • That’s how you know you’re a hater. You can bash Kobe lovers all you like, but Kobe’s near triple double had a huge part in this win. He was good alongside Nick, nance, and hibbert. Drummond still got 17-17…Hibbert needs more help.

    Young and Nance were great off the bench

    But the catalyst was Kobe

  • That’s how you know you’re a hater. You can bash Kobe lovers all you like, but Kobe’s near triple double had a huge part in this win. He was good alongside Nick, nance, and hibbert. Drummond still got 17-17…Hibbert needs more help.

    Young and Nance were great off the bench

    But the catalyst was Kobe

  • Nah cant expect alot of D on kobe ryt now. Him hitting those shots im a lot ok! Ryt now, im more concern of d young core. I want them young ones to always bring up their A game not js offense bt defense. .so we can hav a clue if theyll becom d future champions in this team they r in. Though im giving room for growth, as a fan id like to see a sense of satisfaction in this stage of their respective career. Hop they can hav valuable lessons in MWP d reason he got d last spot. Bt am afraid if d young guns aint getting it by mid season, then its all pointless. Fo shud then hire another coach, to whom theyl respect and earn their given minutes in d two way court..

  • Nah cant expect alot of D on kobe ryt now. Him hitting those shots im a lot ok! Ryt now, im more concern of d young core. I want them young ones to always bring up their A game not js offense bt defense. .so we can hav a clue if theyll becom d future champions in this team they r in. Though im giving room for growth, as a fan id like to see a sense of satisfaction in this stage of their respective career. Hop they can hav valuable lessons in MWP d reason he got d last spot. Bt am afraid if d young guns aint getting it by mid season, then its all pointless. Fo shud then hire another coach, to whom theyl respect and earn their given minutes in d two way court..

  • I want aggression and making plays from a 19 year old. Even if that means a lot of TOs.

  • I want aggression and making plays from a 19 year old. Even if that means a lot of TOs.

  • Our backcourt of Russell and Clarkson played damn good defense on the Pistons duo and was actually a huge reason we won last night.
    Randle and Russell both needs to attack the basket far more often and get to the FT line. but that will come since both are basically rookies….Also funny how everyone was hyping Emmanuel Mudiay but guess who based on PER is the better player by a bit…That right DLO…
    Larry Nance Jr, well what can i say other than we got ourselves a stud of a bench/role/energy player with some nice upside if that jumper gets better though its good now…

    Also, BS needs to stop putting Bass at center because thats when teams go on runs versus us…Also i wonder if we can pry K.J. McDaniels from Houston ????

  • Our backcourt of Russell and Clarkson played damn good defense on the Pistons duo and was actually a huge reason we won last night.
    Randle and Russell both needs to attack the basket far more often and get to the FT line. but that will come since both are basically rookies….Also funny how everyone was hyping Emmanuel Mudiay but guess who based on PER is the better player by a bit…That right DLO…
    Larry Nance Jr, well what can i say other than we got ourselves a stud of a bench/role/energy player with some nice upside if that jumper gets better though its good now…

    Also, BS needs to stop putting Bass at center because thats when teams go on runs versus us…Also i wonder if we can pry K.J. McDaniels from Houston ????

  • Funny how people are including Russell in the positive comments from last night even though he had the least impact of any starter.

  • Funny how people are including Russell in the positive comments from last night even though he had the least impact of any starter.

  • Watched the game just now and I’m impressed with our defense. Kobe finally wised up and stopped taking 10+ 3s a game. Thank You! He played a solid game. Nick Young has really changed for the better and is playing solid defense. He should definitely start tonight vs PHX. Russell and Randle are struggling on defense. If BS sits Russell then he should sit Randle too. I hope Tarik and Anthony can get some playing time soon. Anyways, very happy we got a win. Hopefully we can get another one tonight.

  • Watched the game just now and I’m impressed with our defense. Kobe finally wised up and stopped taking 10+ 3s a game. Thank You! He played a solid game. Nick Young has really changed for the better and is playing solid defense. He should definitely start tonight vs PHX. Russell and Randle are struggling on defense. If BS sits Russell then he should sit Randle too. I hope Tarik and Anthony can get some playing time soon. Anyways, very happy we got a win. Hopefully we can get another one tonight.

  • and why wouldn’t we??? both our guards did a solid job of limiting the impact of Detroit’s backcourt or did you miss that…

  • and why wouldn’t we??? both our guards did a solid job of limiting the impact of Detroit’s backcourt or did you miss that…

  • I watched every minute and although Russell did okay on offense, I saw a lot of missed assignments on defense. I still see him not bringing enough effort and intensity.

  • Russell has to be more aggressive. It’s nobody’s fault but his. It’s aggravating to watch him be so passive. Don’t give me that “green light” crap….I watched him call his own number and knocked down his money shot from the left elbow. He needs to do more of that.

  • I watched every minute and although Russell did okay on offense, I saw a lot of missed assignments on defense. I still see him not bringing enough effort and intensity.

  • Russell has to be more aggressive. It’s nobody’s fault but his. It’s aggravating to watch him be so passive. Don’t give me that “green light” crap….I watched him call his own number and knocked down his money shot from the left elbow. He needs to do more of that.

  • Come on man…you don’t play 20 seasons in this league and “wise up”. Kobe was adjusting to the new position and role on this team just like everybody else. It takes time, but to say he wised up, makes it sound like he wasn’t thinking before.

    Randle would sit like Russell if not for the fact that he brings serious energy on both ends.

  • Come on man…you don’t play 20 seasons in this league and “wise up”. Kobe was adjusting to the new position and role on this team just like everybody else. It takes time, but to say he wised up, makes it sound like he wasn’t thinking before.

    Randle would sit like Russell if not for the fact that he brings serious energy on both ends.

  • Russell took several shots last night without prompting. He can be successful with using the talent and skills he has IF he plays with energy. He isn’t going to be the high jumper or quick slasher. That’s not his game. However, he does need to play with energy.

  • Russell took several shots last night without prompting. He can be successful with using the talent and skills he has IF he plays with energy. He isn’t going to be the high jumper or quick slasher. That’s not his game. However, he does need to play with energy.

  • he gets caught just like Clarkson, Ive been getting pissed off at the fact that they both have the tendency to get caught looking far too often for the screen and thats when the opposition just drives right by them.
    Russell’s problem is that his body isn’t NBA ready and as James Worthy pointed out yesterday, the reason his jump shots keep hitting the front of the rim is the lack of lift from his legs. His upper body is fine he need more leg muscle..
    But, yes he needs more intensity but Randle is the one thats disappointing me more with that lack of all out effort but both guys will get it just be patient…
    sorry for the long reply lol..

  • he gets caught just like Clarkson, Ive been getting pissed off at the fact that they both have the tendency to get caught looking far too often for the screen and thats when the opposition just drives right by them.
    Russell’s problem is that his body isn’t NBA ready and as James Worthy pointed out yesterday, the reason his jump shots keep hitting the front of the rim is the lack of lift from his legs. His upper body is fine he need more leg muscle..
    But, yes he needs more intensity but Randle is the one thats disappointing me more with that lack of all out effort but both guys will get it just be patient…
    sorry for the long reply lol..

  • He was taking TEN 3s a game…yes he wised up. Kobe has one of the greatest minds in bball but him taking that many 3s is stupid. He’s starting to take smarter shots. Randle doesn’t bring any more energy than Nance. He misses just as many defensive assignments as Russell.

  • He was taking TEN 3s a game…yes he wised up. Kobe has one of the greatest minds in bball but him taking that many 3s is stupid. He’s starting to take smarter shots. Randle doesn’t bring any more energy than Nance. He misses just as many defensive assignments as Russell.

  • Lineup 4th qrt: Clarkson, Kobe, Swaggy, Metta, Hibbert. In that order by position should be able close games and shut teams down!

  • Lineup 4th qrt: Clarkson, Kobe, Swaggy, Metta, Hibbert. In that order by position should be able close games and shut teams down!

  • Well i figure we play nance strong to close the 3rd and open the 4th and have metta with kobe in 4th for some of that big shot rob “Veteranism”
    Lol

  • Well i figure we play nance strong to close the 3rd and open the 4th and have metta with kobe in 4th for some of that big shot rob “Veteranism”
    Lol

  • PG- D’Angelo Russell -/- Lou Williams
    SG- Jordan Clarkson -/- Nick Young
    C- Roy Hibbert -/- ???? Maybe Robert Upshaw, Bass isn’t working..
    SF- Kobe Bryant -/- MWP
    PF- Julius Randle -/- Larry Nance Jr.
    Also, we need to dump Kelly and Sacre they’re a waste of space maybe we can dupe the Rockets to give up K.J. McDaniels…

  • PG- D’Angelo Russell -/- Lou Williams
    SG- Jordan Clarkson -/- Nick Young
    C- Roy Hibbert -/- ???? Maybe Robert Upshaw, Bass isn’t working..
    SF- Kobe Bryant -/- MWP
    PF- Julius Randle -/- Larry Nance Jr.
    Also, we need to dump Kelly and Sacre they’re a waste of space maybe we can dupe the Rockets to give up K.J. McDaniels…

  • Nance is really making a strong case for himself. He is going to be a good player in this league if he keeps working hard.

  • Nance is really making a strong case for himself. He is going to be a good player in this league if he keeps working hard.

  • I like this lineup, but thing that Nance would be the better option. Young can provide everything that Williams can AND is a much better defensive player (when he is engaged).

    I also see that Byron has adjusted Kobe’s playing time to now have him play two different block of time in both the second and fourth quarters. As a result, i would shorten his time in the first and third quarters and give Metta those few extra minutes.

  • I like this lineup, but thing that Nance would be the better option. Young can provide everything that Williams can AND is a much better defensive player (when he is engaged).

    I also see that Byron has adjusted Kobe’s playing time to now have him play two different block of time in both the second and fourth quarters. As a result, i would shorten his time in the first and third quarters and give Metta those few extra minutes.

  • Yea i love nance, lobs and dunks, and defense, and energy he’s a gem! Randle better watch out! He may start because of name and #7 pick but nance will get more minutes

  • Yea i love nance, lobs and dunks, and defense, and energy he’s a gem! Randle better watch out! He may start because of name and #7 pick but nance will get more minutes

  • If they play the same way they did last night consistently for the next 10 games, they could very well be .500 after the first 20 games of the season. There are only a small few teams that are really playing well right now. Most appear to be still figuring out their rosters, dealing with early season injuries or just not seemingly engaged seriously yet. This is when teams that play hard can surprise some teams that normally you wouldn’t expect them to beat.

    It is somewhat disheartening to think that the Lakers could have very easily been 5-5 right now instead of 2-8. Games like Minnesota, New York and Orlando were right there for the taking. Young teams can’t afford to lose those kinds of games.

  • If they play the same way they did last night consistently for the next 10 games, they could very well be .500 after the first 20 games of the season. There are only a small few teams that are really playing well right now. Most appear to be still figuring out their rosters, dealing with early season injuries or just not seemingly engaged seriously yet. This is when teams that play hard can surprise some teams that normally you wouldn’t expect them to beat.

    It is somewhat disheartening to think that the Lakers could have very easily been 5-5 right now instead of 2-8. Games like Minnesota, New York and Orlando were right there for the taking. Young teams can’t afford to lose those kinds of games.

  • I see more effort with Randle…but it’s just reckless effort. What I’m seeing from him is another reason why I wanted Okafor even if it meant having issues with pairing him with Randle. I would have liked the option of trading Randle for a forward to pair with Okafor.

    Russell lacks the overall athleticism of most of the star point guards in the league. The ones that lack that leaping ability seem to have the quickness instead. Russell currently has shown neither. He walks the ball up the court with no urgency. He has no lift on his shot as you stated, and when he drives, he can get no separation from the defenders. He has no teardrop either.

  • I see more effort with Randle…but it’s just reckless effort. What I’m seeing from him is another reason why I wanted Okafor even if it meant having issues with pairing him with Randle. I would have liked the option of trading Randle for a forward to pair with Okafor.

    Russell lacks the overall athleticism of most of the star point guards in the league. The ones that lack that leaping ability seem to have the quickness instead. Russell currently has shown neither. He walks the ball up the court with no urgency. He has no lift on his shot as you stated, and when he drives, he can get no separation from the defenders. He has no teardrop either.

  • What is it with your obsession of Kobe, LOL.

    Why are you intimidated by Kobe’s greatness?

    Insecure much?

  • What is it with your obsession of Kobe, LOL.

    Why are you intimidated by Kobe’s greatness?

    Insecure much?

  • I just think the term “wised up” is a little strong when talking about a guy in his 20th season. I wish there was a more appropriate term. Just like where you say smarter, I would say “better”, it sounds more appropriate.

    NO, Randle doesn’t bring more energy than Nance. No one on the team does except maybe Clarkson. However, Randle does bring a lot more energy than Russell.

  • I just think the term “wised up” is a little strong when talking about a guy in his 20th season. I wish there was a more appropriate term. Just like where you say smarter, I would say “better”, it sounds more appropriate.

    NO, Randle doesn’t bring more energy than Nance. No one on the team does except maybe Clarkson. However, Randle does bring a lot more energy than Russell.

  • Yup Kobe IS stil the best player in the league.

    His body might not be cooperating right now after the extended absence, but hes going to get it done regardless of what you haters wish upon him.

    Haters will hate, thats what you children do.

  • Yup Kobe IS stil the best player in the league.

    His body might not be cooperating right now after the extended absence, but hes going to get it done regardless of what you haters wish upon him.

    Haters will hate, thats what you children do.

  • Yup that guy is a troll and he should be reported.

    Enough trolling, time we take our forum back.

  • Your statement is why I think Byron knows what he is doing when he sits him. A rookie #2 pick in the draft should never give anyone a reason to call them bored or accuse them of not playing with fire. Passion has nothing to do with talent or skill…it’s all effort. There is no excuse for a lack of effort. He should be seeing everything as a challenge to prove that he deserved being selected number 2. Instead he seems to play like he has been in the league for 10 years and deserves everything.

  • Yup that guy is a troll and he should be reported.

    Enough trolling, time we take our forum back.

  • Your statement is why I think Byron knows what he is doing when he sits him. A rookie #2 pick in the draft should never give anyone a reason to call them bored or accuse them of not playing with fire. Passion has nothing to do with talent or skill…it’s all effort. There is no excuse for a lack of effort. He should be seeing everything as a challenge to prove that he deserved being selected number 2. Instead he seems to play like he has been in the league for 10 years and deserves everything.

  • Nance will get more minutes. Eventually both Russell and Randle could be finding themselves in new homes. There is no excuse for either not playing with effort every minute that they are on the court.

  • Nance will get more minutes. Eventually both Russell and Randle could be finding themselves in new homes. There is no excuse for either not playing with effort every minute that they are on the court.

  • Johnny, not disagreeing with you, in fact, I agree with you. It’s sad, he’s an NBA 2nd round draft choice, and his “body isn’t developed enough?” His legs need to be developed? And this wasn’t obvious before the FO selected him? Did he fooled them by displaying strong legs in the workouts? This makes no sense, not your comments Johnny, but that this is a reality, and the FO picked him anyway. If that’s the case, why would they pick an “undeveloped” project? Especially, when you consider all the NBA ready rookies (Okafor, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow & ect) playing beyond their years right now. Pathetic!

  • Johnny, not disagreeing with you, in fact, I agree with you. It’s sad, he’s an NBA 2nd round draft choice, and his “body isn’t developed enough?” His legs need to be developed? And this wasn’t obvious before the FO selected him? Did he fooled them by displaying strong legs in the workouts? This makes no sense, not your comments Johnny, but that this is a reality, and the FO picked him anyway. If that’s the case, why would they pick an “undeveloped” project? Especially, when you consider all the NBA ready rookies (Okafor, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow & ect) playing beyond their years right now. Pathetic!

  • not necessarily, his no step vert was 31″, but his max vert was 38″ which is what Kobe has. The problem with DLO is his lack of aggressiveness, as he showed last night and on the occasions he’s tried he can get to the basket without a problem. His biggest fault is he’s differing to much and if his shot isn’t falling he needs to attack and kick out or try to get to the FT line.
    Defensively, he gets caught looking far to often and doesn’t yet have the strength to fight through screens but that will come. His long arms allow him to alter passes and he’s had a few 2-3 steals game so far which is a surprise.
    Our biggest problem with our losses has been the undersized center and the fact that BS had a mini crush on Kelly which thankfully he got over..

  • not necessarily, his no step vert was 31″, but his max vert was 38″ which is what Kobe has. The problem with DLO is his lack of aggressiveness, as he showed last night and on the occasions he’s tried he can get to the basket without a problem. His biggest fault is he’s differing to much and if his shot isn’t falling he needs to attack and kick out or try to get to the FT line.
    Defensively, he gets caught looking far to often and doesn’t yet have the strength to fight through screens but that will come. His long arms allow him to alter passes and he’s had a few 2-3 steals game so far which is a surprise.
    Our biggest problem with our losses has been the undersized center and the fact that BS had a mini crush on Kelly which thankfully he got over..

  • Currently he’s playing better than Mudiay and the PER and analytics supports, but the biggest difference is that PG is like QB in the NFL its rare to see a CP# or Magic make am impact right away but he’s a good one whose upside is Curry/Nash..

  • Currently he’s playing better than Mudiay and the PER and analytics supports, but the biggest difference is that PG is like QB in the NFL its rare to see a CP# or Magic make am impact right away but he’s a good one whose upside is Curry/Nash..

  • I think he meant he can learn from Kobe. I remember Kobe back then was a fierce defender. Might not be now, but certainly was.

  • I think he meant he can learn from Kobe. I remember Kobe back then was a fierce defender. Might not be now, but certainly was.

  • I don’t see him differing too much. I thought he took a few shots last night which he should have passed up. I don’t see the ease to get to the basket. I have yet to see him breakdown anybody on the dribble and go to the basket. The one time I saw him drive in traffic, he was under the rim…not above it when he tried to finish.

    On defense, his hands are not up, he isn’t in any defensive stance and he is late on rotations. Oh and at least Kelly played hard. BS was rewarding him for working hard in the preseason.

  • I don’t see him differing too much. I thought he took a few shots last night which he should have passed up. I don’t see the ease to get to the basket. I have yet to see him breakdown anybody on the dribble and go to the basket. The one time I saw him drive in traffic, he was under the rim…not above it when he tried to finish.

    On defense, his hands are not up, he isn’t in any defensive stance and he is late on rotations. Oh and at least Kelly played hard. BS was rewarding him for working hard in the preseason.

  • It’s early still. This could be a playoff team still. If they get to .500 by somewhere between 20-30 games in, they have a shot. They just need to start getting an attitude that they CAN WIN every game.

  • It’s early still. This could be a playoff team still. If they get to .500 by somewhere between 20-30 games in, they have a shot. They just need to start getting an attitude that they CAN WIN every game.

  • I’m here every week if you’re capable of discussing a topic like an adult without name calling. You’ll find that it’s much more constructive, and we probably agree more than we disagree.

  • I’m here every week if you’re capable of discussing a topic in a civil manner without name calling. You’ll find that it’s much more constructive, and we probably agree on more about the Lakers than we disagree.

  • Except there’s 3 teams mathematically on pace to lose more games and a bottom 3 record doesn’t guarantee a top 3 pick.

  • I think it’s a cop out if he were to say about himself what you just said. It is much easier for a point guard to have instant impact than it is any other position. The ball is in their hands which should be a comfort level for them given the fact that is what they have had up to that point. One of the comments that has been said about Russell since before the draft was about his confidence. Well, his confidence should also help him to adjust. He should be putting guys in their positions and running the team. Instead he looks lost, unsure and disinterested.

  • Except there’s 3 teams mathematically on pace to lose more games and a bottom 3 record doesn’t guarantee a top 3 pick.

  • I think it’s a cop out if he were to say about himself what you just said. It is much easier for a point guard to have instant impact than it is any other position. The ball is in their hands which should be a comfort level for them given the fact that is what they have had up to that point. One of the comments that has been said about Russell since before the draft was about his confidence. Well, his confidence should also help him to adjust. He should be putting guys in their positions and running the team. Instead he looks lost, unsure and disinterested.

  • and Kobe to teach young guys how to defend,reading angles,etc. Kobe locks down MJ(50% career) to 45% shooting when he guards him 1on1, whereas Kobe(45%career) shoots 43% when MJ guards him 1on1

  • and Kobe to teach young guys how to defend,reading angles,etc. Kobe locks down MJ(50% career) to 45% shooting when he guards him 1on1, whereas Kobe(45%career) shoots 43% when MJ guards him 1on1

  • Bass did quite well last night. The problem with Bass has been that he’s been asked to do things outside of what he should be doing. The guy plays well.

  • Bass did quite well last night. The problem with Bass has been that he’s been asked to do things outside of what he should be doing. The guy plays well.

  • He gets the ball and looks to Kobe right away, what he should do is properly scan the floor and attack, then kick out for open jumpers.
    As for the breaking down off the dribble, well he has great handles that will only get better, but he isn’t going to blow by people he has a nice ability to change speed and has suddenness because of his handles. Again, all this will only get better throughout the season.
    defensively, yes he’s a bit lost on the defensive side but that was to be expected though he has had his moments were he’s been solid. Again as stated above it will improve throughout the season.
    Again his biggest faults are his inability to keep his head on a swivel on defense and the fact that he sags off his man far to often and gets burned but lets be honest thats happening to all 3 of our kids….

  • He gets the ball and looks to Kobe right away, what he should do is properly scan the floor and attack, then kick out for open jumpers.
    As for the breaking down off the dribble, well he has great handles that will only get better, but he isn’t going to blow by people he has a nice ability to change speed and has suddenness because of his handles. Again, all this will only get better throughout the season.
    defensively, yes he’s a bit lost on the defensive side but that was to be expected though he has had his moments were he’s been solid. Again as stated above it will improve throughout the season.
    Again his biggest faults are his inability to keep his head on a swivel on defense and the fact that he sags off his man far to often and gets burned but lets be honest thats happening to all 3 of our kids….

  • exactly, he should never play center but we cut Upshaw to keep Sacre for monetary purposes. But i rather see more of Nance than Bass because we simply get more out of him….

  • exactly, he should never play center but we cut Upshaw to keep Sacre for monetary purposes. But i rather see more of Nance than Bass because we simply get more out of him….

  • Your first statement is very leading. He not only looks for Kobe, he looks for Clarkson, Randle or one of the other guys that might be on the perimeter. Kobe is sometimes not even in his vicinity when he has the ball. What he should do is run the offense…attacking is just part of that. A steady diet of him attacking would kill the offense because he isn’t going to cause any doubles or collapsing of the defense. He isn’t blowing by his defenders right now and I don’t foresee him getting quicker.

    Some things may get better, but we should see some of that now and we don’t.

    You are taking up for Russell way too much. I have yet to see any reason for him being the number 2 pick.

  • Thats just incorrect, PG is the hardest position on in the NBA by far. I have a feeling your looking way too much on his stats, re-watch last nights game and you’ll see many times were he delivered the ball where it needed to be we just didn’t finish, the most obvious being that nice pass to Hibbert 4ft from the basket only for him to miss it…
    Also, keep in mind guys like Rose, Wall, CP3,..etc were given full reign of the offense and also didn’t play with a guy like Kobe let alone 2 other kids in JC and JR that can also create for themselves thus demising his control of the offense.

  • Your first statement is very leading. He not only looks for Kobe, he looks for Clarkson, Randle or one of the other guys that might be on the perimeter. Kobe is sometimes not even in his vicinity when he has the ball. What he should do is run the offense…attacking is just part of that. A steady diet of him attacking would kill the offense because he isn’t going to cause any doubles or collapsing of the defense. He isn’t blowing by his defenders right now and I don’t foresee him getting quicker.

    Some things may get better, but we should see some of that now and we don’t.

    You are taking up for Russell way too much. I have yet to see any reason for him being the number 2 pick.

  • Thats just incorrect, PG is the hardest position on in the NBA by far. I have a feeling your looking way too much on his stats, re-watch last nights game and you’ll see many times were he delivered the ball where it needed to be we just didn’t finish, the most obvious being that nice pass to Hibbert 4ft from the basket only for him to miss it…
    Also, keep in mind guys like Rose, Wall, CP3,..etc were given full reign of the offense and also didn’t play with a guy like Kobe let alone 2 other kids in JC and JR that can also create for themselves thus demising his control of the offense.

  • your expecting way too much just because Kat and Okafor are putting up nice numbers

  • your expecting way too much just because Kat and Okafor are putting up nice numbers

  • I’m expecting the number 2 pick to play like the number 2 pick. If he played hard every game, I would be satisfied. However, he doesn’t, and then he complains about being “benched” in the fourth. That’s not how it works.

  • I’m expecting the number 2 pick to play like the number 2 pick. If he played hard every game, I would be satisfied. However, he doesn’t, and then he complains about being “benched” in the fourth. That’s not how it works.

  • You continue to provide excuses. I have watched the games…I don’t watch the stat sheet. Russell has some flashes of good judgement with passing, and he has hit some good jumpers at time, BUT I have not seen nearly enough to warrant the #2 overall pick.

    This is a great example of what I’m talking about. I see more support for Russell than I do for Kobe. Which one has done more for this team?

  • You continue to provide excuses. I have watched the games…I don’t watch the stat sheet. Russell has some flashes of good judgement with passing, and he has hit some good jumpers at time, BUT I have not seen nearly enough to warrant the #2 overall pick.

    This is a great example of what I’m talking about. I see more support for Russell than I do for Kobe. Which one has done more for this team?

  • I wouldn’t say he should never play center. He shouldn’t play against true centers. Are you really in the Upshaw camp? Come on man, really? What did Bass do wrong last night?

  • I wouldn’t say he should never play center. He shouldn’t play against true centers. Are you really in the Upshaw camp? Come on man, really? What did Bass do wrong last night?

  • True. But ryt now kobe cant show them on court his days of competitive playing D. Otherwise his body cannot make the whole season. He can teach them young ones but i can see he cant be d doer of his words in 30+ minutes. I believe thats d job of MWP showing them how is it be done. Kobe js hitting his shots and young ones fulfilling their defensive assignments. .then our win/loss record will not be that humiliating.. If shots r falling for randle then playoffs can be reachable..

  • True. But ryt now kobe cant show them on court his days of competitive playing D. Otherwise his body cannot make the whole season. He can teach them young ones but i can see he cant be d doer of his words in 30+ minutes. I believe thats d job of MWP showing them how is it be done. Kobe js hitting his shots and young ones fulfilling their defensive assignments. .then our win/loss record will not be that humiliating.. If shots r falling for randle then playoffs can be reachable..

  • Your Kobe hatred continues to allow your ignorance to grow.

    Hibbert has been great but it has been Metta who has been the defensive influence on the rest of the team.

    If you pay attention instead of Kobe hating you can see that the team is playing defense in the style of Metta.

  • Your Kobe hatred continues to allow your ignorance to grow.

    At the rim is where the team has been implementing Hibberts verticality defense but it has been Metta who has been the defensive influence on the rest of the team.

    If you pay attention instead of Kobe hating you can see that the team is playing defense in the style of Metta.

  • Certainly was. Body not helping. Kobe gotta hav to find new stroke of shooting for him to be relevant, otherwise he rather be a tripple-double machine in nightly games for him not gonna hamper his legacy..

  • Certainly was. Body not helping. Kobe gotta hav to find new stroke of shooting for him to be relevant, otherwise he rather be a tripple-double machine in nightly games for him not gonna hamper his legacy..

  • You get respect for owning your opinions, giving Kobe credit, and not joining the Kobe hater troll herd.

  • he will hit those, I remember in an interview that he wants to give Kobe a reason to play again next year(winning?youth progress?) which has its own pros and cons

  • he will hit those, I remember in an interview that he wants to give Kobe a reason to play again next year(winning?youth progress?) which has its own pros and cons

  • AGREE. At least the last 3 games the defense has come together better.

    Metta has been instrumental on mentoring.

    Now we have to work on turnovers!

  • AGREE. At least the last 3 games the defense has come together better.

    Metta has been instrumental on defensive mentoring and he has payed off.

    Now we have to work on turnovers!

  • That is if young ones r buying in bs plays. Basically havnt seen much of them showing their needed defense. Good offensive plays tend to boost players defensive games. But sumhow rookies r a bit confused/lost in their game. .randle/russel. Russel not playing d fourth s a bad sign dt his not getting it. Randle needs to smoothen his offensive game, otherwise id rather choose nance to start coz its probable that his gonna contribute more..

  • That is if young ones r buying in bs plays. Basically havnt seen much of them showing their needed defense. Good offensive plays tend to boost players defensive games. But sumhow rookies r a bit confused/lost in their game. .randle/russel. Russel not playing d fourth s a bad sign dt his not getting it. Randle needs to smoothen his offensive game, otherwise id rather choose nance to start coz its probable that his gonna contribute more..

  • And if young guys not gonna develop. .its highly unlikely next season dt star fa will come. Thus kobes reason to renew still/will be in limbo..

  • And if young guys not gonna develop. .its highly unlikely next season dt star fa will come. Thus kobes reason to renew still/will be in limbo..

  • Currently, you have to define what you mean by “currently.” Cause, according to the most up-to-date rookie stats after 10 games, that’s not the case.

    Russell – avgs: 9 ppg, 25 mins ppg, 3 asst ppg, 4 rebs ppg &1 steal ppg. 3 point % 30%.

    Mudiay – avgs: 12 ppg, 30 mins ppg, 6 asst ppg, 4.2 rebs ppg & 1.10 steal ppg. 3 point % 28%.

    Unless, your argument is “you” believe Russell “would” be playing better than Mudiay with 5 mins more playing time. Then there might be room for argument. But, that too, is projection, unstantiated by “current” facts and evidence. Like a QB, Russell needs to call his own number more, he’s not aggressive. You know, like Russell Wilson…

  • Currently, you have to define what you mean by “currently.” Cause, according to the most up-to-date rookie stats after 10 games, that’s not the case.

    Russell – avgs: 9 ppg, 25 mins ppg, 3 asst ppg, 4 rebs ppg &1 steal ppg. 3 point % 30%.

    Mudiay – avgs: 12 ppg, 30 mins ppg, 6 asst ppg, 4.2 rebs ppg & 1.10 steal ppg. 3 point % 28%.

    Unless, your argument is “you” believe Russell “would” be playing better than Mudiay with 5 mins more of playing time. Then there might be room for argument. But, that too, is projection, unstantiated by “current” facts and evidence. Like a QB, Russell needs to call his own number more, he’s not aggressive. You know, like Russell Wilson…

  • Not in the Upshaw camp per say, what we need is a 7footer than can be in the rotation and we just don’t have that. Also Upshaw is there for free so why not give it a shot i don’t see it hurting us if he replaces Sacre, do you???
    as for the reason why, well yes he’s winging it on both sides of the ball but he blocks and alters shots which we lack.

  • Not in the Upshaw camp per say, what we need is a 7footer than can be in the rotation and we just don’t have that. Also Upshaw is there for free so why not give it a shot i don’t see it hurting us if he replaces Sacre, do you???
    as for the reason why, well yes he’s winging it on both sides of the ball but he blocks and alters shots which we lack.

  • Currently, as in he’s at this moment playing better than Mudiay and as I said analytics supports this which is self explanatory….
    you say 5 min more, well you must not pay attention but Mudiay isn’t playing with Kobe, Clarkson, Randle, Young, and Williams who can all create their own shots and take the ball away from DLOs hands.
    PER isn’t a projection but rather a combination of various stats on both sides of the ball which create an efficiency number for production.

  • Currently, as in he’s at this moment playing better than Mudiay and as I said analytics supports this which is self explanatory….
    you say 5 min more, well you must not pay attention but Mudiay isn’t playing with Kobe, Clarkson, Randle, Young, and Williams who can all create their own shots and take the ball away from DLOs hands.
    PER isn’t a projection but rather a combination of various stats on both sides of the ball which create an efficiency number for production.

  • I was just joking. Conversation starter? Well I guess you aren’t too astute either. Jokes, humor and sarcasm. All good on my end-just a lot of misunderstanding on both parts.

  • I was just joking. Conversation starter? Well I guess you aren’t too astute either. Jokes, humor and sarcasm. All good on my end-just a lot of misunderstanding on both parts.

  • You mad bruh? Sorry, if I offended you, but you can’t just make obscure references to “analystics” and think cause you said it. That ends it and no one is going to challenge it, or ask for more information. Maybe, “analytics” doesn’t mean what you think it means. Can you kindly point me to the analytics you are referring to? If true, fine, I’ll adjust my thinking. Hey, I’ve learned a lot from people on this board. I don’t have a problem with that. The stats I gave you are from Inside Hoops. Stats for NBA rookies as of Sunday, Nov 15th. If you have other or additional information cool. Peace…

  • You mad bruh? Sorry, if I offended you, but you can’t just make obscure references to “analystics” and think cause you said it. That ends it, and no one is going to challenge it, or ask for more information. Maybe, “analytics” doesn’t mean what you think it means. Can you kindly point me to the analytics you are referring to? If true, fine, I’ll adjust my thinking. Hey, I’ve learned a lot from people on this board. I don’t have a problem with that. The stats I gave you are from Inside Hoops. Stats for NBA rookies as of Sunday, Nov 15th. If you have other or additional information cool. State your source? Peace…

  • Upshaw getting around 20+ min in D League, hope continues to work

    I ain’t got nothing to say about Sacre and the NBA, RS doesn/t even need to suit-up, but RS goes to the “Bank” – CaChing !! lol

  • Upshaw getting around 20+ min in D League, hope continues to work

    I ain’t got nothing to say about Sacre and the NBA, RS doesn/t even need to suit-up, but RS goes to the “Bank” – CaChing !! lol

  • yea ..it about ball movement..but did lakers move the ball well? it is a good system for some teams(which have teamwork)..but not this lakers team..0 ball movement can run princeton offense?

  • yea ..it about ball movement..but did lakers move the ball well? it is a good system for some teams(which have teamwork)..but not this lakers team..0 ball movement can run princeton offense?

  • JC said the better offense last night was due to being disciplined in the Princeton.

  • JC said the better offense last night was due to being disciplined in the Princeton.

  • Many don’t seem to understand what bashing is. If I was randomly coming here posting “Kobe sucks!” I would bashing.

    When I point out that Kobe is shooting 33% from the field, that’s not bashing. That’s a fact. I criticize bad play. If Jordan Clarkson took 24 shots in one game and missed 20 of them I’d point it out the same way. I’m a Laker fan but I’m not blind.

  • Many don’t seem to understand what bashing is. If I was randomly coming here posting “Kobe sucks!” I would bashing.

    When I point out that Kobe is shooting 33% from the field, that’s not bashing. That’s a fact. I criticize bad play. If Jordan Clarkson took 24 shots in one game and missed 20 of them I’d point it out the same way. I’m a Laker fan but I’m not blind.

  • He plays for the team I root for. Lol I don’t call 16 points 3 assists and 4 rebounds on 33% shooting greatness.

  • He plays for the team I root for. Lol I don’t call 16 points 3 assists and 4 rebounds on 33% shooting greatness.

  • Lol keep telling yourself that. It’s going to be a long season for you.

  • Lol keep telling yourself that. It’s going to be a long season for you.

  • I understand your argument but what if the player can be aggressive but keep his TO not averaged at 6.8 lol instead at 2 or 3.5

    What kind of player do you think that will make him? I’m sure that’s why he is a project player that the lakers are trying to mold into since they know his talent.

  • I understand your argument but what if the player can be aggressive but keep his TO not averaged at 6.8 lol instead at 2 or 3.5

    What kind of player do you think that will make him? I’m sure that’s why he is a project player that the lakers are trying to mold into since they know his talent.

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