Game Recap: Lakers Drop 3rd Straight Preseason Game With Loss To Raptors

The Los Angeles Lakers (0-2) looked to bounce back after dropping both games in Hawaii, as they returned to the mainland Thursday night to square off against the Toronto Raptors (1-1) at nearby Citizens Bank Arena.

Although they came up short in a nail-biting 117-114 loss to the Utah Jazz in overtime, Laker fans were enticed by a team that showed passion and energy along with a few dazzling plays. A fired up front court in Julius Randle and Roy Hibbert helped combat the the Jazz’s highly efficient guard play.

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With D’Angelo Russell out with a bruised glute, the Lakers would need the solid play of their big men to continue as they attempt to finish out the game strong and come away with their first preseason victory.

First Quarter:

The Lakers started off the game similarly to last game with Kobe hitting a soft jumper from just inside the three-point line, that was quickly followed by a floater from Jordan Clarkson. Kobe started to get it going with back-to-back dimes to Nick Young and Clarkson as the Lakers quickly took a 10-2 lead. After a Raptors timeout, Toronto answered back with 7-0 run of their own. Julius Randle got into foul trouble midway through the quarter giving way to Larry Nance and Robert Upshaw to see work early on. Upshaw made his presence known early with a wide open dunk on a nice pass from Lou Williams to put the Lakers up 17-13. Meanwhile, Toronto kept themselves in the game by being aggressive on the boards, recording four offensive rebounds in the the first quarter to the Lakers’ zero. Propelling the Raptos ahead of the Lkers after a three-pointer by DeMarre Carrol to put them ahead. Williams finally got the purple and gold back on the board with a jumper to end the quarter with Toronto up 30-27.

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Second Quarter

Jabari Brown looked to get out of his shooting slump by hitting a three-pointer to open up the quarter. Upshaw then flexed his wing span with a thunderous block on Cory Joseph’s attempted lay-up. Randle finally got on the board with a jumper to bring the Lakers within one 35-34. Kobe started to find his rhythm after hitting both of his free throws followed by a jumper off a clean pass from Hibbert to put the Lakers ahead by one. Terrance Ross took over the offensive workload by hitting a jumper and following it up with a three-pointer to tie it up at 40 midway through the second quarter. Toronto retook the lead with a three-pointer from Kyle Lowry on an assist from Carroll. Clarkson answered back with a three of his own that hit nothing but the bottom of the net. Nance recorded his first bucket of the game as he went right around Patrick Patterson for the easy lay-up to put as the Lakers slimmed the lead 57-53. The Raptors made the most out of their opportunities at the free-throw line going 9-10 in the second quarter as they went ahead 59-53 at halftime.

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Third Quarter

Julius Randle came out on fire to begin the second half, finishing at the rim and hitting jump shots to bring the score to 61-57. However, Lowry responded with his third three-pointer of the game. Kobe got his first bucket in the half hitting a three on a nice pass from Clarkson. Lowry started to catch fire after sinking a leaner from the three-point line. Clarkson started getting his teammates involved with a couple of delicious dimes to Roy Hibbert and Kobe to cut the lead 75-68. The Lakers started to build momentum with a spectacular play from Randle going behind-the-back before hitting Kobe with a nice pass on the wing to finish the play with a three-pointer. However Lowry would continue his dominant performance scoring the Raptors last nine points as they extended their lead 81-74. Upshaw continued to be active on the floor getting rebounds and recording his third bucket of the nice on the dish from Metta World Peace. The Raptors continued to stay ahead after a lay-up from Joseph put them ahead 86-76 to end the third quarter.

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Fourth Quarter

Lou Williams got the fourth quarter started with a three in the corner cutting Raptors’ lead to seven. Rookie Jonathan Holmes attempted to get on the board for the first time, but was blocked leading to a fastbreak for Toronto. Raptors failed to capitalize. Williams cut the lead to seven again with his 14th point. Cory Joseph counters with a three. Metta World Peace headed to the line and knocked down both shots. Bismack Biyombo hit one of two free throws extending Toronto’s lead to nine. Jabari Brown split a pair of free throws. Joseph drove the basket with ease and finished at the rim while drawing the foul. Missed the free throw. Anthony Bennett connected on a jumper putting the Raptors ahead by double digits, 96-84. Metta knocked down a couple of free throws. Holmes headed to the charity stripe and hit both. Lakers down eight. Bennett threw down a monster jam to get the lead back up to 10 for Toronto. Williams hit one of two free throws with about four minutes left to go. World Peace made his way to the basket with ease and finished with a clean layup. Joseph back to the line for two. Made the first, missed the second. Holmes grabbed his fifth rebound and scored quickly. Joseph got on the board again with another bucket. Williams countered with a layup of his own. Williams connected on another jumper improving his total to 19 points cutting the lead to four. Holmes got a huge block on Joseph, but Raptors kept possession which was finished off by Norman Powell. Joseph continued to dominate the Lakers reserves hitting another jumper. Lakers lose third straight preseason game, 105-97.

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Observation:

They competed and that’s all one can ask, being leaving it out on the floor. First half of the game was like night and day compared to the last game. Good flow and defense, but it’s clear that Lou shouldn’t be playing pg, the Lakers seriously lack consistent shooters so best to keep Lou at the 2 come regular season.

Randle had a decent game SCORING inside the paint, but he seriously lacks confidence in shooting 10-15 ft jumpers. He’d rather take it inside and end up shooting tougher/awkward shots than settle for those long jumpers. Kobe seems to be rushing his long jumpers that in turn look off. Lakers lack shooters to be able to keep pace with teams that can stretch the floor and hit those long 3’s.

  • Observation:

    They competed and that’s all one can ask, first half of the game was like night and day compared to the last game. Good flow and defense, but it’s clear that Lou shouldn’t be playing pg, the Lakers seriously lack consistent shooters so best to keep Lou at the 2 come regular season (yes current injuries implied @ dmwit).

    Randle had a decent game scoring INSIDE the paint, but he seriously lacks confidence in shooting 10-15 ft jumpers. He’d rather take it inside and end up shooting tougher/awkward shots than settle for long jumpers. Kobe seems to be rushing his long jumpers that in turn look off. Lakers lack shooters to be able to keep pace with teams that can stretch the floor and hit long 3’s.

  • It took a while for Blake Griffin to make that mid-range shot as well. He’ll knock it down eventually

  • It took a while for Blake Griffin to make that mid-range shot as well. He’ll knock it down eventually

  • No diss, but not comparing Randle to anyone. This literally is his first year so just hope he can stay healthy. Work in progress, which goes for everyone else too.

  • Lakers offense will be there, they just need to play solid D and get stops when needed. Overall i like what i saw, but i’d like to see more of Nance Jr the kid is super athletic and brings energy.

  • the team looks good when u look at it bass, russ, black, and huertez did not play all four are projected to be in our 10 man roation and we are compeating with a fully healthy fully playing raptors who could be a top 3 seed in the east

  • No diss, but not comparing Randle to anyone. This literally is his first year so just hope he can stay healthy. Work in progress, which goes for everyone else.

  • Lakers offense will be there, they just need to play solid D and get stops when needed. Overall i like what i saw, but i’d like to see more of Nance Jr the kid is super athletic and brings energy.

  • the team looks good when u look at it bass, russ, black, and huertez did not play all four are projected to be in our 10 man roation and we are compeating with a fully healthy fully playing raptors who could be a top 3 seed in the east

  • It’s clear to me.

    From this 19-man squad, we need to cut Kelly, Sacre and Jabari Brown. We need to send Nick Young to Philly or any team that’s willing to part with a draft pick.

    Kelly, Sacre, Jabari and Nick Young must leave. We’re set with our 15.

  • It’s clear to me.

    From this 19-man squad, we need to cut Kelly, Sacre and Jabari Brown. We need to send Nick Young to Philly or any team that’s willing to part with a draft pick.

    Kelly, Sacre, Jabari and Nick Young must leave. We’re set with our 15.

  • We’re set. Goodbye to Sacre, Kelly, Jabari and Nick Young (trade for draft pick).

    The pecking order (IMO):

    Hibbert / Upshaw / Black
    Randle Bass / Larry Nance
    Kobe / MWP / Holmes
    Clarkson / A Brown / Frazier
    Russell / Lou / Huertas

  • Fairly decent analysis. The major problems are lack of defense in defensive identity, no perimeter or wing containment and poor communication. Offensively everything is one on one thus no consistent go to offensive flow. Lots of work to be done over these next 5 games. Need to see some kind of team chemistry forming in the next two games. Could really use a W to boost team confidence.

  • We’re set. Goodbye to Sacre, Kelly, Jabari and Nick Young (trade for draft pick).

    The pecking order (IMO):

    Hibbert / Upshaw / Black
    Randle Bass / Larry Nance
    Kobe / MWP / Holmes
    Clarkson / A Brown / Frazier
    Russell / Lou / Huertas

  • Fairly decent analysis. The major problems are lack of defense in defensive identity, no perimeter or wing containment and poor communication. Offensively everything is one on one thus no consistent go to offensive flow. Lots of work to be done over these next 5 games. Need to see some kind of team chemistry forming in the next two games. Could really use a W to boost team confidence.

  • Well from the looks of it we might even lose to Maccabi on sunday and the crazy thing is i don’t know who the hell that team is but man we look like the Lost Angeles Lakers right now. I think the game went okay but Kobe truly has to facilitate him and Hibbert we’re great together last game when the ball doesn’t stay in Kobe’s hands long everyone gets involved and we have way better players now so its no excuse, Clarkson has to step up big time, Randle played great but Russell definitely need minutes because this is preseason he needs all the experience he can get. Nick played good as long as he isn’t playing around to much he is a solid player. Upshaw looked good as we all expected. Holmes/ Frazier/ Kelly / Sacshit all must go i definitely hope the season don’t look like this because if it do we gone be at the bottom again but i am giving them the benefit of the doubt because we still have to gel so thats okay but KOBE HAS TO FACILITATE when he did last game the game stayed close.

  • next game should be an ez win.

    the issues offensively and defensively all come from the mix matched rotations. it ill get better as players get cut and more consistent pt is given out

  • You’d really keep Johnathan Holmes on the roster over Nick Young? Wow. I agree with cutting the rest of those guys though.

  • Well from the looks of it we might even lose to Maccabi on sunday and the crazy thing is i don’t know who the hell that team is but man we look like the Lost Angeles Lakers right now. I think the game went okay but Kobe truly has to facilitate him and Hibbert we’re great together last game when the ball doesn’t stay in Kobe’s hands long everyone gets involved and we have way better players now so its no excuse, Clarkson has to step up big time, Randle played great but Russell definitely need minutes because this is preseason he needs all the experience he can get. Nick played good as long as he isn’t playing around to much he is a solid player. Upshaw looked good as we all expected. Holmes/ Frazier/ Kelly / Sacshit all must go i definitely hope the season don’t look like this because if it do we gone be at the bottom again but i am giving them the benefit of the doubt because we still have to gel so thats okay but KOBE HAS TO FACILITATE when he did last game the game stayed close.

  • next game should be an ez win.

    the issues offensively and defensively all come from the mix matched rotations. it ill get better as players get cut and more consistent pt is given out

  • You’d really keep Johnathan Holmes on the roster over Nick Young? Wow. I agree with cutting the rest of those guys though.

  • THIS, they could’ve won this game if they got stops, but their too busy scrambling on defense.

  • THIS, they could’ve won this game if they got stops, but their too busy scrambling on defense.

  • at least Holmes brings defensive versatility, athleticism and fresh legs. Young is a good pro. But we already have enough bench scoring. And besides, Young is a career 40% shooter, far toooo inefficient for my liking. I rather invest in young guys like Frazier and Holmes.

  • at least Holmes brings defensive versatility, athleticism and fresh legs. Young is a good pro. But we already have enough bench scoring. And besides, Young is a career 40% shooter, far toooo inefficient for my liking. I rather invest in young guys like Frazier and Holmes.

  • It might be preseason, but it would be nice if this team actually won a game.

  • It might be preseason, but it would be nice if this team actually won a game.

  • I still feel Lakers should get rid of Byron Scott he’s not a good coach for this team. We need to hire Tom Thibodeau or even Scott Brooks. I think Scott Brooks will be a perfect coach for this team because he developed KD and Westbrook perfectly.

  • Randle is everything most thought he was coming into the draft. He’s still a rookie so his jumper will take time to develop. I want to see him stalking the boards more. I need at least 8-10 boards a game from him consistently.

  • The Good

    Randle is looking great – will have a nice year 15pts/gm
    Upshaw is surprisingly decent – should make the team
    Kobe looks pretty good – 15-16 pts a game for the old man
    Lou is a killer on offense – may lead our team in scoring
    JC – solid starter
    Hibbert – our interior D is very good when he’s in there

    The Bad

    Nick young is garbage, total ball stopper who takes a lot of bad shots
    Nance on the floor kills our flow on both ends
    Our offense is boring and predictable
    We don’t box out
    We don’t steal the ball
    We have no transition baskets because of the no steals
    We help too much on D and don’t play the 3 pt line well

    Overall a good game, Toronto has a lot of talent and is better than us right now. BS better get on these guys about being better on rebounding and D. His offense is crap too – kick it to the top, screen and roll then shooter comes off of the screen every time…no Iso ball, no pick and pop, no double screens for spot up shooters….he’s missing basically the last 5 years of NBA offensive innovation.

  • I still feel Lakers should get rid of Byron Scott he’s not a good coach for this team. We need to hire Tom Thibodeau or even Scott Brooks. I think Scott Brooks will be a perfect coach for this team because he developed KD and Westbrook perfectly.

  • Randle is everything most thought he was coming into the draft. He’s still a rookie so his jumper will take time to develop. I want to see him stalking the boards more. I need at least 8-10 boards a game from him consistently.

  • The Good

    Randle is looking great – will have a nice year 15pts/gm
    Upshaw is surprisingly decent – should make the team
    Kobe looks pretty good – 15-16 pts a game for the old man
    Lou is a killer on offense – may lead our team in scoring
    JC – solid starter
    Hibbert – our interior D is very good when he’s in there

    The Bad

    Nick young is garbage, total ball stopper who takes a lot of bad shots
    Nance on the floor kills our flow on both ends
    Our offense is boring and predictable
    We don’t box out
    We don’t steal the ball
    We have no transition baskets because of the no steals
    We help too much on D and don’t play the 3 pt line well

    Overall a good game, Toronto has a lot of talent and is better than us right now. BS better get on these guys about being better on rebounding and D. His offense is crap too – kick it to the top, screen and roll then shooter comes off of the screen every time…no Iso ball, no pick and pop, no double screens for spot up shooters….he’s missing basically the last 5 years of NBA offensive innovation.

  • even though it’s pre-season, you still want to build a winning mentality going into the season, especially with a young team

  • Who cares about 0-3 in preseason, what matters is how we finish in the last 3 games of preseason

  • fg% is a horrid way to look at a player. nick young shoots mostly threes. so his fg% looks worse then it is

  • even though it’s pre-season, you still want to build a winning mentality going into the season, especially with a young team

  • Who cares about 0-3 in preseason, what matters is how we finish in the last 3 games of preseason

  • fg% is a horrid way to look at a player. nick young shoots mostly threes. so his fg% looks worse then it is

  • Plus not helping the helper and not knowing when to help. I just notice their defense started to collapse and scramble after a simple dribble penetration.

  • Plus not helping the helper and not knowing when to help. I just notice their defense started to collapse and scramble after a simple dribble penetration.

  • Another solid game overall. A lot of improvement already from last year, and that’s what having more talent does for you. Same can be said with the already nice/building chemistry. Huertas is the key here as I think out bench offense will run a lot smoother with a skilled playmaking PG on the court. Allows Young and Lou to move without the ball and get better shots.

    Loved what I saw from Upshaw although the rebounds never really went his way and he couldn’t affect many as many shots tonight due to it leaving his man open which I could tell he hesitated on. Kobe+Randle+Clarkson+Hibbert already a HUGE improvement. Just need to get Russell some burn next game and let the chemistry completely grow.

    I like Metta as a player/coach, but I cringe every time be takes a 3. Has never been a consistent shooter and his handle is still GOD awful. I just think his roster spot would be kind of a waste. But yeah.. they were hot from 3 and that last unit wasn’t very efficient together offensively. Lou is NOT a PG although he could do it for a stretch. Jabari…. yeah. He is always a threat to score, but the tunnel vision is real.

    Sacre cost us another game!

  • I was at the game, sitting on the floor under the basket. Three observations that I couldn’t tell on TV:

    1. Randle is far better than I thought he was. He’s electric and he’s going to be a star.

    2. Upshaw didn’t belong on the floor. He was late, lost and tentative. I don’t think he’s going to make the team.

    3. The guards can’t guard anyone and the help defense doesn’t help. They need a lot of work.

    Plus, the shooting was awful. But Metta plays man ball while the others are playing boys ball. He looked fantastic.

    This team needs to get a LOT better. The starters looked decent, everything else was chaos.

  • Another solid game overall. A lot of improvement already from last year, and that’s what having more talent does for you. Same can be said with the already nice/building chemistry. Huertas is the key here as I think out bench offense will run a lot smoother with a skilled playmaking PG on the court. Allows Young and Lou to move without the ball and get better shots.

    Loved what I saw from Upshaw although the rebounds never really went his way and he couldn’t affect many as many shots tonight due to it leaving his man open which I could tell he hesitated on. Kobe+Randle+Clarkson+Hibbert already a HUGE improvement. Just need to get Russell some burn next game and let the chemistry completely grow.

    I like Metta as a player/coach, but I cringe every time be takes a 3. Has never been a consistent shooter and his handle is still GOD awful. I just think his roster spot would be kind of a waste. But yeah.. they were hot from 3 and that last unit wasn’t very efficient together offensively. Lou is NOT a PG although he could do it for a stretch. Jabari…. yeah. He is always a threat to score, but the tunnel vision is real.

    Sacre cost us another game!

  • I was at the game, sitting on the floor under the basket. Three observations that I couldn’t tell on TV:

    1. Randle is far better than I thought he was. He’s electric and he’s going to be a star. He’s NBA ready right now. Wow.

    2. Upshaw didn’t belong on the floor. He was late, lost and tentative. I don’t think he’s going to make the team.

    3. The guards can’t guard anyone and the help defense doesn’t help. They need a lot of work.

    Plus, the shooting was awful. But Metta plays man ball while the others are playing boys ball. He looked fantastic.

    This team needs to get a LOT better. The starters looked decent, everything else was chaos.

  • He only missed his one and only 15-17 ft jumper tonight. But he can his post J. That’s enough for now.

  • finally someone who acknowledges that Swaggy is a Scrub. Don’t know why most guys here think he deserves a roster spot, let alone playing time.

  • He only missed his one and only 15-17 ft jumper tonight. But he can his post J. That’s enough for now.

  • finally someone who acknowledges that Swaggy is a Scrub. Don’t know why most guys here think he deserves a roster spot, let alone playing time.

  • He’s 42 percent for his career, and that’s only because nearly half of the shots he has taken in his career are 3s.

  • i’m sorry bro but if you think Young is “a great scorer”, your basketball knowledge is very limited. and i hate to be arguing with a fellow laker fan.

  • He’s 42 percent for his career, and that’s only because nearly half of the shots he has taken in his career are 3s.

  • i’m sorry bro but if you think Young is “a great scorer”, your basketball knowledge is very limited. and i hate to be arguing with a fellow laker fan.

  • I agree. I get that BS is testing out lineups and whatnot but these were very winnable games.

  • I agree. I get that BS is testing out lineups and whatnot but these were very winnable games.

  • You couldn’t tell Randle was going to be a monster by watching him on TV?? What size is your television?

  • You couldn’t tell Randle was going to be a monster by watching him on TV?? What size is your television?

  • He’s not gonna play 36, and I need that 8-10 anytime he plays 28 or more mpg.

  • Was to be expected first time playing. But we know Upshaw wouldn’t be in the normal rotation anyway. Byron will likely go with a 9-10 rotation. It’s still possible for Upshaw to make the roster

  • He’s not gonna play 36, and I need that 8-10 anytime he plays 28 or more mpg.

  • Was to be expected first time playing. But we know Upshaw wouldn’t be in the normal rotation anyway. Byron will likely go with a 9-10 rotation. It’s still possible for Upshaw to make the roster

  • Agree with you almost 99%.

    Upshaw needs more minutes to get into rhythm.

    I think we need Mettas energy off the bench. For that alone and the obvious leadership role I say keep him.

    Like you said, we need Huertas and Russell at PG badly.

  • No one talking about his FG% b/c that doesn’t tell the story. The fact that he settles for tougher shots inside the paint as opposed to hitting 10-15 ft jumpers is the issue.

  • Agree with you almost 99%.

    Upshaw needs more minutes to get into rhythm.

    I think we need Mettas energy off the bench. For that alone and the obvious leadership role I say keep him.

    Like you said, we need Huertas and Russell at PG badly.

  • No one talking about his FG% b/c that doesn’t tell the story. The fact that he settles for tougher shots inside the paint as opposed to hitting 10-15 ft jumpers is the issue.

  • I want to see after the 4th game, to have a set team, I want them to cut the players that they dont need, so the remaining four game is to build up the chemistry and they can set up the rotation, to have a flow offense and defense.

  • thats alot of rebounds to ask for from a rookie. BG is a career 9.7rebounds per game and hes a career 35.5mpg player at the 30m mark bg we get u about 7 rpg wich should be about were randle is

  • Good one. We should be winning by then, although we face the Warriors twice.

  • I want to see after the 4th game, to have a set team, I want them to cut the players that they dont need, so the remaining four game is to build up the chemistry and they can set up the rotation, to have a flow offense and defense.

  • thats alot of rebounds to ask for from a rookie. BG is a career 9.7rebounds per game and hes a career 35.5mpg player at the 30m mark bg we get u about 7 rpg wich should be about were randle is

  • Good one. We should be winning by then, although we face the Warriors twice.

  • Upshaw looked nervous and definitely didn’t have the speed of the game, but he is still worlds better than sacre

  • No, in fact I’d be amazed if anyone did. It was really loud. My ears are still ringing.

  • Lakers Fanboys are so out of touch with reality they think that cutting Kelly and Sacre and replacing them with other pine riders will make a significant difference in the team – and then they wonder why everyone laughs at them.

  • Upshaw looked nervous and definitely didn’t have the speed of the game, but he is still worlds better than sacre

  • No, in fact I’d be amazed if anyone did. It was really loud. My ears are still ringing.

  • Lol don’t get butthurt I was joking…. But I was able to tell that Randle was going to be beast one day just by watching his freaking highschool YouTube videos….. I’m just saying

  • Well it’s reassuring knowing that they were winnable. Hopefully Byron starts narrowing down the roster and gets some stability and wins.

  • Wth, talking about making his ass a starter right? Called it like last games post. Forgot about that right lol.

  • Lol don’t get butthurt I was joking…. But I was able to tell that Randle was going to be beast one day just by watching his freaking highschool YouTube videos….. I’m just saying

  • Well it’s reassuring knowing that they were winnable. Hopefully Byron starts narrowing down the roster and gets some stability and wins.

  • Wth, talking about making his ass a starter right? Called it like last game’s post. Forgot about that right lol.

  • Unfortunately not tonight he wasn’t. I felt really bad for him. He’s an underdog and I’m really rooting for him. Plus I met him in Vegas in summer league, so I don’t want him to wash out. He needs this.

  • Unfortunately not tonight he wasn’t. I felt really bad for him. He’s an underdog and I’m really rooting for him. Plus I met him in Vegas in summer league, so I don’t want him to wash out. He needs this.

  • Nick is iffy to me. If he can’t pull it together preseason then we need to let him go.

  • poor wittle faker fanboys gonna make up some more excuses wahahaa

    #WeRunLA #ClippersBasketball #ClippersrunthisCity

  • Nick is iffy to me. If he can’t pull it together preseason then we need to let him go.

  • Pass, no diss, but another injury could shatter that type of expectation. Hopefully he stays healthy the entire season. These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).

    The game to watch will be against the GSW, we’ll see what this team has to play against elite teams. So far not seeing anything conclusive that say’s that Randle should be a starter come regular season.

  • Pass, no diss, but another injury could shatter that type of expectation. Hopefully he stays healthy the entire season. These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).

    The game to watch will be against the GSW, we’ll see what this team has to play against elite teams. So far not seeing anything conclusive that say’s that Randle should be a starter come regular season.

  • Watching him up close with NBA players, he’s already installing fear in them. When he touches the ball everyone tenses up. They know a challenge is coming. He already has earned their respect.

  • Watching him up close with NBA players, he’s already installing fear in them. When he touches the ball everyone tenses up. They know a challenge is coming. He already has earned their respect.

  • Randle was going to be what I thought he would be eventually but I think the big glaring deficiency is the big hole in our defense at the 3; we have no one who can at least keep pace with opposing teams three so far in both the Jazz and Raptors game. Burk, Hayward, and Carroll have had their ways so far against us because we are too slow and old there. Meta played physical but he isn’t the answer in an 82 game season and A Brown still looks like a kid who need about three more years to be fully mature and nba ready. Forget Young and Kobe, they are both offensive players.

    Ups haw was ok but they should have inserted Black as backup and Upshaw 3rd string.

    Btw; was this game in Ontario?

  • Not saying he wasn’t given the Clipps crappy roster back then he had first dibs.

  • Griffin averaged over 12 rebounds a game his rookie season. He played 38 mpg. I’d love to see Scott feature Randle like that but I doubt he has the balls to let Julius loose like that.

    Still, I need that 8-10 from the rookie every game he plays. Rebounds are all energy and effort, and if Randle wants to establish himself as that dude in the middle as the face of the Lakers, that is what he needs to produce.

  • if i was the coach the 4th game would be my last game to mess with the lineups then i would make first cuts

  • Randle was going to be what I thought he would be eventually but I think the big glaring deficiency is the big hole in our defense at the 3; we have no one who can at least keep pace with opposing teams three so far in both the Jazz and Raptors game. Burk, Hayward, and Carroll have had their ways so far against us because we are too slow and old there. Meta played physical but he isn’t the answer in an 82 game season and A Brown still looks like a kid who need about three more years to be fully mature and nba ready. Forget Young and Kobe, they are both offensive players.

    Ups haw was ok but they should have inserted Black as backup and Upshaw 3rd string.

    Btw; was this game in Ontario?

  • Not saying he wasn’t given the Clipps crappy roster back then he had first dibs.

  • Griffin averaged over 12 rebounds a game his rookie season. He played 38 mpg. I’d love to see Scott feature Randle like that but I doubt he has the balls to let Julius loose like that.

    Still, I need that 8-10 from the rookie every game he plays. Rebounds are all energy and effort, and if Randle wants to establish himself as that dude in the middle as the face of the Lakers, that is what he needs to produce.

  • if i was the coach the 4th game would be my last game to mess with the lineups then i would make first cuts

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  • Did Santiago send you? ….Are you One of Santiago’s peeps?…. Tell him he’ll get his money… He’ll get his five bucks..

  • Disagree, Bass takes what they give him and makes the most of it which goes in making less TO’s (yes he’s a vet).

  • The Good: Randle, Kobe, Upshaw, Holmes, Hibbert, Clarkson, MWP, Lou Williams’ Offense
    The Bad: Jabari Brown, Nick Young, Nance Jr, Lakers’ overall Defense
    The Ugly: Lou Williams’ Defense, Robert Sacre is still wearing a Lakers uniform

    I know some people are hating on Upshaw, but what I saw was a guy who was lost, but he was trying, setting screens and rolling, this is the first time he has played over 20 minutes of a game since his college days afterall. Yea he got posterized by Bust Bennett, who also torched Holmes on the same play, but these are two guys who showed some promise and genuine defensive effort, if Jabari Brown and Lou Williams didn’t let their men have their way with them, things could have been much smoother.

  • Disagree, Bass takes what they give him and makes the most of it which goes in making less TO’s (yes he’s a vet).

  • The Good: Randle, Kobe, Upshaw, Holmes, Hibbert, Clarkson, MWP, Lou Williams’ Offense
    The Bad: Jabari Brown, Nick Young, Nance Jr, Lakers’ overall Defense
    The Ugly: Lou Williams’ Defense, Robert Sacre is still wearing a Lakers uniform

    I know some people are hating on Upshaw, but what I saw was a guy who was lost, but he was trying, setting screens and rolling, this is the first time he has played over 20 minutes of a game since his college days afterall. Yea he got posterized by Bust Bennett, who also torched Holmes on the same play, but these are two guys who showed some promise and genuine defensive effort, if Jabari Brown and Lou Williams didn’t let their men have their way with them, things could have been much smoother.

  • his rookie season had cp3 on it….

    never mind i believe that was his second season

  • Upshaw looked pretty solid. Major upgrade from Sacre. I don’t know if it’s a different view from TV to the actual game, but I’d bring him in at least as a 3rd C off the bench. And Randle looked pretty good on TV as well for a while now. But thanks for your observations

  • Upshaw played well on the two split screens on a post pattern offside goalie kick. Roy can only elevate his nose to a higher position for the block on the weak side

  • You’re still going to be a bottom dweller this season and forever you silly pathetic faker fans. So out of touch with the real world it’s depressing really.

  • Upshaw looked pretty solid. Major upgrade from Sacre. I don’t know if it’s a different view from TV to the actual game, but I’d bring him in at least as a 3rd C off the bench. And Randle looked pretty good on TV as well for a while now. But thanks for your observations

  • Upshaw played well on the two split screens on a post pattern offside goalie kick. Roy can only elevate his nose to a higher position for the block on the weak side

  • Randles MO is the inside game, I’m perfectly fine with that.
    17 points for only his 3rd game, are you kidding me. That’s great.

    If it ain’t broke. …

  • Randles MO is the inside game, I’m perfectly fine with that.
    17 points for only his 3rd game, are you kidding me. That’s great.

    If it ain’t broke. …

  • Is our roster any better? Keep in mind this is a complete rebuild and there’s no reason to hold Randle or any of the other young bucks back. Let them have the stage and we’ll deal with their growing pains. Who knows, they my surprise us.

  • accept the fact that you are a closet Lakers fan, you are here more than regular Laker fans, and probably watch the Lakers more than the Clippers Also flagged.

  • Is our roster any better? Keep in mind this is a complete rebuild and there’s no reason to hold Randle or any of the other young bucks back. Let them have the stage and we’ll deal with their growing pains. Who knows, they my surprise us.

  • accept the fact that you are a closet Lakers fan, you are here more than regular Laker fans, and probably watch the Lakers more than the Clippers Also flagged.

  • the reason i cant see him getting 8-10 is 1 i dont see him getting the pt and two the starting lineup wont need it.

    russ-4
    clark-4
    kobe-5
    randle-7
    hibbert-10
    thats 30 rebounds from our starting line up

    hez-2
    will-2
    young-2
    bass-5
    black 5
    thats 16 from the bench

    46 rebounds pergame would rank us about 3rd in the nba in total rebounds.

    i dont see randle needing to get 8-10. shur he will have games were he gets 8-10 but i believe 7-8 sounds more realistic for his 30ish mpg

  • the reason i cant see him getting 8-10 is 1 i dont see him getting the pt and two the starting lineup wont need it.

    russ-4
    clark-4
    kobe-5
    randle-7
    hibbert-10
    thats 30 rebounds from our starting line up

    hez-2
    will-2
    young-2
    bass-5
    black 5
    thats 16 from the bench

    46 rebounds pergame would rank us about 3rd in the nba in total rebounds.

    i dont see randle needing to get 8-10. shur he will have games were he gets 8-10 but i believe 7-8 sounds more realistic for his 30ish mpg

  • No he didn’t. CP3 didn’t arrive till 11-12. Blake’s breakout rookie season was 10-11.

  • The real question is what was right with him? No defense, stopped the offensive rhythm, streaky shooting, you name it, he owned it.

  • No he didn’t. CP3 didn’t arrive till 11-12. Blake’s breakout rookie season was 10-11.

  • The real question is what was right with him? No defense, stopped the offensive rhythm, streaky shooting, you name it, he owned it.

  • I’m with you Dana I’m just being a smart ass, I did see it last preseason when he was punking draymond green and Harrison Barnes

  • I’m with you Dana I’m just being a smart ass, I did see it last preseason when he was punking draymond green and Harrison Barnes

  • Not really, he’s averaged double digit points and 5 rebounds per game against low seeded teams while playing 23 mpg. More impressed with Bass while making less TO’s, yes, Randle’s a rookie but it’s about W & L’s.

  • his defense was solid all night. he was 1 shot from 50% from the floor. stop hating on young he played fine

  • Not really, he’s averaged double digit points and 5 rebounds per game against low seeded teams while playing 23 mpg. More impressed with Bass while making less TO’s, yes, Randle’s a rookie but it’s about W & L’s.

  • his defense was solid all night. he was 1 shot from 50% from the floor. stop hating on young he played fine

  • Meh, I’m not going to argue with someone who doesn’t watch games, and has a major boner for him, regardless of how poor he was.

  • “These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).”

    Just like the Pels, Kings etc.

  • Meh, I’m not going to argue with someone who doesn’t watch games, and has a major boner for him, regardless of how poor he was.

  • “These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).”

    Just like the Pels, Kings etc.

  • Yessss. Thank you for this. I think Upshaw is a project worth waiting on though. Also what about Jabari? He is so out of control.

  • Swaggy ain’t no scrub come on now the guy has talent. You’re gonna see him play well with Lou off the bench you’ll see

  • Swaggy ain’t no scrub come on now the guy has talent. You’re gonna see him play well with Lou off the bench you’ll see

  • You kind of have a point. But I’d rather see him grow gradually slowly. He’s still very green.

  • You kind of have a point. But I’d rather see him grow gradually slowly. He’s still very green.

  • the raptors are considered a title contender out in the east and just beat the clippers by 21 points

  • If you think Hibbert is gonna give us a consistent 10 a game you have not played attention to his career. I stand firm on those numbers. If Julius wants to be the man in the middle, he needs to go get it on the glass. That’s where a big man makes his money. And we do need that from him.

  • Don’t think he’s hit one jumper in the 3 games yet. But Julius is looking great. Imagine how much better when he starts nailing that shot.

  • Wrong analysis on young. I thought he took good shots that were in the scheme of the offense, the few bad shots were because he had to create for himself since no one else could score. He passed the ball at the right times but don’t forget he is a scorer and is not looking to pass every time

  • the raptors are considered a title contender out in the east and just beat the clippers by 21 points

  • If you think Hibbert is gonna give us a consistent 10 a game you have not payed attention to his career. I stand firm on those numbers. If Julius wants to be the man in the middle, he needs to go get it on the glass. That’s where a big man makes his money. And we do need that from him.

  • Don’t think he’s hit one jumper in the 3 games yet. But Julius is looking great. Imagine how much better when he starts nailing that shot.

  • Wrong analysis on young. I thought he took good shots that were in the scheme of the offense, the few bad shots were because he had to create for himself since no one else could score. He passed the ball at the right times but don’t forget he is a scorer and is not looking to pass every time

  • the reason i believe hibbert will give us ten is because he is going to get a career high amount of pt and its a contract season

  • Sht ain’t flying in a shooters league, HAVE to stretch the floor to allow others the chance to shoot the long ball. Defenders don’t take Randle seriously when he’s outside the paint b/c they know that his preferred method of scoring is taking it in.

    The Kings’s game is one to watch since he’s going up against a dominant big (Cousin’s) and and athletic freak that can keep up with guards in Cauley-Stein since Randles prefered method is scoring inside the paint. Randle should start using the board more to hit jumpers as opposed to settling for awkward shots inside.

  • Lou isn’t goig to be playing PG. We only have one at the moment in case you forgot. He is capable for a few minutes but not long stretches. Huertas will run the bench offense.

  • the reason i believe hibbert will give us ten is because he is going to get a career high amount of pt and its a contract season

  • Sht ain’t flying in a shooters league, HAVE to stretch the floor to allow others the chance to shoot the long ball. Defenders don’t take Randle seriously when he’s outside the paint b/c they know that his preferred method of scoring is taking it in.

    The Kings’s game is one to watch since he’s going up against a dominant big (Cousin’s) and and athletic freak that can keep up with guards in Cauley-Stein since Randles prefered method is scoring inside the paint. Randle should start using the board more to hit jumpers as opposed to settling for awkward shots inside.

  • Lou isn’t going to be playing PG. We only have one at the moment in case you forgot. He is capable for a few minutes but not long stretches. Huertas will run the bench offense.

  • because you have no argument i did watch the game. he played fine his man did not go off or any thing.

    hes a back up player in this league you need to lay off of him hes not some super star or anything

  • This team doesn’t have enough bench scoring at all. You saw how lou plays w/o another scorer on the floor. Nick and Lou is a good tandem

  • I actually agree that Randle needs to get at least 8 rebounds a night but our starting guards, all three, grab about 5 each a night. It might be tough for him to do that. Griffin was the Clippers main meal ticket back then so of course he stuffed the stat sheet as a rookie.

  • because you have no argument i did watch the game. he played fine his man did not go off or any thing.

    hes a back up player in this league you need to lay off of him hes not some super star or anything

  • This team doesn’t have enough bench scoring at all. You saw how lou plays w/o another scorer on the floor. Nick and Lou is a good tandem

  • I actually agree that Randle needs to get at least 8 rebounds a night but our starting guards, all three, grab about 5 each a night. It might be tough for him to do that. Griffin was the Clippers main meal ticket back then so of course he stuffed the stat sheet as a rookie.

  • What about injuries, is that a good reason to refrain?
    We can’t afford another player losing a year or worse due to injury.

  • RE: W&L’s
    I agree… to an extent.

    Grooming Randle is more important than finding an extra 1-2 wins. Especially since a playoffs berth is a long shot.

  • I was keeping a close eye on Upshaw because his conditioning has been questioned. Well he stayed 20 mts on the court and looked just fine. This is a great sign for us. I think he should be Roy’s first-choice backup. Tarik can play both 4 and 5. Upshaw needs to be properly groomed under Roy.

  • What about injuries, is that a good reason to refrain?
    We can’t afford another player losing a year or worse due to injury.

  • RE: W&L’s
    I agree… to an extent.

    Grooming Randle is more important than finding an extra 1-2 wins. Especially since a playoffs berth is a long shot.

  • I was keeping a close eye on Upshaw because his conditioning has been questioned. Well he stayed 20 mts on the court and looked just fine. This is a great sign for us. I think he should be Roy’s first-choice backup. Tarik can play both 4 and 5. Upshaw needs to be properly groomed under Roy.

  • Disagree about Upshaw. He played alright. The guy hasn’t played a lot of real game action since leaving Washington. I liked his effort. And he WILL make the team.

  • Then expect a 30+ game winning season. Keeping it real, rookie starting against bigger more experience bigs who shows lapses on both ends of the floor and has yet to show a shooters touch?

    No diss to Randle, if Scott deems it worthy of him starting it’s b/c he earned but that won’t translate to a successful season given his lack of experience.

  • I’ve been a Clippers fan since I was 10 yrs old back when they gave free tickets at the sports arena I’m 40 now it’s fans like you that give us real Clippers fans a bad name. If we every wanted to be respected more in Los Angeles we need to pick our battles wisely.picking stupid fights with the Lakers fans won’t help the cause we need to let our on court game do our talking for us. In no way I hate the Lakers now I hate the Warriors,Gizzlies I just dislike the Lakers I want them to be good cause these 30pts blowouts is becoming the norm between these two team. There no need to kick a bad team when they are. Down just remember Christmas Day it’s not going to pretty.

  • even more so if both keep making the proper passes the way they have been so far this preseason

  • Disagree about Upshaw. He played alright. The guy hasn’t played a lot of real game action since leaving Washington. I liked his effort. And he WILL make the team.

  • Then expect a 30+ game winning season. Keeping it real, rookie starting against bigger more experienced bigs while showing lapses on both ends of the floor and has yet to show a shooters touch (1st year yes)?

    No diss to Randle, if Scott deems it worthy of him starting it’s b/c he earned it but that won’t translate to a successful season given his lack of experience.

  • I’ve been a Clippers fan since I was 10 yrs old back when they gave free tickets at the sports arena I’m 40 now it’s fans like you that give us real Clippers fans a bad name. If we every wanted to be respected more in Los Angeles we need to pick our battles wisely.picking stupid fights with the Lakers fans won’t help the cause we need to let our on court game do our talking for us. In no way I hate the Lakers now I hate the Warriors,Gizzlies I just dislike the Lakers I want them to be good cause these 30pts blowouts is becoming the norm between these two team. There no need to kick a bad team when they are. Down just remember Christmas Day it’s not going to pretty.

  • even more so if both keep making the proper passes the way they have been so far this preseason

  • Don’t forget that the Lakers had training today! !!!

    Game Tuesday, flight yesterday, training this morning plus a game today!

    That’s allot of work on a body.

  • no question about it. Sacre, Kelly and JBrown all need to leave town. I don’t know about Swaggy. If someone gives us a future draft pick for Swaggy, we should pull the trigger. Loved what i saw from Holmes and Uphsaw tonight. Those two need to make the 15 come what may.

  • No time for coddling man. The future is now. We desperately need a couple of these young bucks to shine! If they want to become stars they need to go get it like LBJ, Melo, Wade, KD, Griffin, Cousins, The Brow, and all these other young Hogs who got they shine on right away.

    The slow play development is for middle of the road teams not back to back lotto bottom feeders like us. We’ve got to come to grips who we are right now.

  • Don’t forget that the Lakers had training today! !!!

    Game Tuesday, flight yesterday, training this morning plus a game today!

    That’s allot of work on a body.

  • no question about it. Sacre, Kelly and JBrown all need to leave town. I don’t know about Swaggy. If someone gives us a future draft pick for Swaggy, we should pull the trigger. Loved what i saw from Holmes and Uphsaw tonight. Those two need to make the 15 come what may.

  • No time for coddling man. The future is now. We desperately need a couple of these young bucks to shine! If they want to become stars they need to go get it like LBJ, Melo, Wade, KD, Griffin, Cousins, The Brow, and all these other young Hogs who got they shine on right away.

    The slow play development is for middle of the road teams not back to back lotto bottom feeders like us. We’ve got to come to grips with who we are right now.

  • Things would have been different if Scott had tried to win.

    It’s hard to say that he’s trying to win when the starters don’t close the game and the final 8 minutes featured Upshaw, Holmes, Williams, JBrown, and MWP.

  • Things would have been different if Scott had tried to win.

    It’s hard to say that he’s trying to win when the starters don’t close the game and the final 8 minutes featured Upshaw, Holmes, Williams, JBrown, and MWP.

  • Don’t get caught up in the Losses…Right now it’s about building the Chemistry and the Weaning out process….Upshaw surprise me with his turn around move in the post….The 5th game will give an Idea of what might be in store….Right now a lot of good Teams are treading water…not worrying about the W/L.

  • Lou is better as a straight scorer , which is what he will back to when Huertas steps in.

  • Don’t get caught up in the Losses…Right now it’s about building the Chemistry and the Weaning out process….Upshaw surprise me with his turn around move in the post….The 5th game will give an Idea of what might be in store….Right now a lot of good Teams are treading water…not worrying about the W/L.

  • Lou is better as a straight scorer , which is what he will back to when Huertas steps in.

  • I think you are trying to make Young out to be more than he is…. and, I think Young “got the message” and is playing team ball now.

    Also, let’s not make much out of a team when Young and Williams are the #1 and #2 (and only) offense.

  • Wrong, having bass start wont help us get more wins. Randle is getting better and better, there is no need to bring him slowly. Let that muthafucker start

  • Sitting there close enough to touch him, he really looked lost. It was kind of sad, actually. And lots of self-doubt. Constantly shaking his head, beating himself up over his play. Right there next to him, you could see how many assignments he missed, every time he was late, every time he wasn’t where he was supposed to be. It was really pretty bad, I’m afraid.

  • I think you are trying to make Young out to be more than he is…. and, I think Young “got the message” and is playing team ball now.

    Also, let’s not make much out of a team when Young and Williams are the #1 and #2 (and only) offense.

  • Wrong, having bass start wont help us get more wins. Randle is getting better and better, there is no need to bring him slowly. Let that muthafucker start

  • Sitting there close enough to touch him, he really looked lost. It was kind of sad, actually. And lots of self-doubt. Constantly shaking his head, beating himself up over his play. Right there next to him, you could see how many assignments he missed, every time he was late, every time he wasn’t where he was supposed to be. It was really pretty bad, I’m afraid.

  • You just stated he was one shot away from 50 percent, if he took another ill advised shot and actually made it, he would only be 4-9, he played 28 minutes, had -10, got one board and one assist, MWP who is ancient, played less minutes and was far more active on both ends. I would take MWP over Nick Young any day. You are a Nick Young and Kobe Bryant homer, you defend them regardless of how poor they are, it’s a pattern and a sickness that you have. Kobe played very well, Nick Young did not, accept it.

  • You just stated he was one shot away from 50 percent, if he took another ill advised shot and actually made it, he would only be 4-9, he played 28 minutes, had -10, got one board and one assist, MWP who is ancient, played less minutes and was far more active on both ends. I would take MWP over Nick Young any day. You are a Nick Young and Kobe Bryant homer, you defend them regardless of how poor they are, it’s a pattern and a sickness that you have. Kobe played very well, Nick Young did not, accept it.

  • to me the next game should be the start of roster cuts. we have 20 people on the roster atm i would cut it to 18 or 17 before game 5 and down to 16 before game 6. game 7 should be the 15 man team and game 8 should be like its game 1 or the regular season when it comes to pt and rotations

  • Let’s see what he does in a structured rotation. If he can play consistent, he is a great backup to Kobe and stretch the offense.

    All we are seeing is veterans struggle as Scott experiments and studies his deep bench.

  • Yeah, must be a different view, because that’s not how it looked to me, at all.

  • to me the next game should be the start of roster cuts. we have 20 people on the roster atm i would cut it to 18 or 17 before game 5 and down to 16 before game 6. game 7 should be the 15 man team and game 8 should be like its game 1 or the regular season when it comes to pt and rotations

  • Let’s see what he does in a structured rotation. If he can play consistent, he is a great backup to Kobe and stretch the offense.

    All we are seeing is veterans struggle as Scott experiments and studies his deep bench.

  • I’m surprised to see seats available. I coulda shoulda looked into getting tickets.

  • he was 3-8 if he had made 1 more of his misses he would be 4-8 or 50% he did not play poorly.

    your a hater unless the player shoots 50% or better

  • I’m surprised to see seats available. I coulda shoulda looked into getting tickets.

  • he was 3-8 if he had made 1 more of his misses he would be 4-8 or 50% he did not play poorly.

    your a hater unless the player shoots 50% or better

  • I’m just stating what I see in the games. I feel like young and Lou can put up 15 off the bench each but the starters have to score too

  • Lots of season seat holders didn’t come. Someone said it was sold out. Hard to believe.

  • I heard that.

    And I agree with Byron. Holmes did display allot of hustle though. Upshaw looked good for a rookie.

  • I’m just stating what I see in the games. I feel like young and Lou can put up 15 off the bench each but the starters have to score too

  • Lots of season seat holders didn’t come. Someone said it was sold out. Hard to believe.

  • I heard that.

    And I agree with Byron. Holmes did display allot of hustle though. Upshaw looked good for a rookie.

  • More consistent play which goes with less mistakes given Randle’s still learning the position as he goes along. That’s all really.

  • RE: Upshaw
    All I see is a guy who fits the description of a #3 center. To me, every #3 guy should be a project of some sort.

    Folks WANT Upshaw to be more than he is. And right now, he hasn’t played basketball in about a year, went through a lot of problems, and has a lot to learn…. sounds like a #3 Center.

  • More consistent play which goes with less mistakes given Randle’s still learning the position as he goes along. That’s all really.

  • RE: Upshaw
    All I see is a guy who fits the description of a #3 center. To me, every #3 guy should be a project of some sort.

    Folks WANT Upshaw to be more than he is. And right now, he hasn’t played basketball in about a year, went through a lot of problems, and has a lot to learn…. sounds like a #3 Center.

  • yes you can he missed the shot if he would have made it hes a 50% its not hard math

  • you might be right there. but we need to see what Huertas can do before coming to that conclusion. If the second unit of Upshaw-Bass-MWP-Lou-Huertas can put up decent points, Swaggy can be sacrificed for a draft pick. You need to realize that we don’t have any draft picks for next year. We need some takers.

  • you might be right there. but we need to see what Huertas can do before coming to that conclusion. If the second unit of Upshaw-Bass-MWP-Lou-Huertas can put up decent points, Swaggy can be sacrificed for a draft pick. You need to realize that we don’t have any draft picks for next year. We need some takers.

  • you might be right there. but we need to see what Huertas can do before coming to that conclusion. If the second unit of Upshaw-Bass-MWP-Lou-Huertas can put up decent points, Swaggy can be sacrificed for a draft pick. You need to realize that we don’t have any draft picks for next year. We need some takers.

  • He had nice speed / tempo , he was just inexperienced.

    He needs more minutes.

  • He had nice speed / tempo , he was just inexperienced.

    He needs more minutes.

  • He had nice speed / tempo , he was just inexperienced.

    He needs more minutes.

  • Yes, but you cannot un-miss a shot that is not possible, do you understand how basketball works? Nick Young was 3-8 he needs to take another shot to get his percentage up. There is no magic retrospective shot un-miss ability. Only in your fantasy land does that happen.

  • Wish all you want.
    Scott is in year 2 of a 4 year contract. The team isn’t going to pay him $16m just to coach last year.

    And, in case you haven’t noticed, this team is still subpar. So let’s let Scott do the dirty work of rebuilding the team before we look for a top flight coach to polish the diamond.

    Scott or not, making the playoffs will be a miracle…. and Thibodeau or Brooks aren’t magicians.

  • Yes, but you cannot un-miss a shot that is not possible, do you understand how basketball works? Nick Young was 3-8 he needs to take another shot to get his percentage up. There is no magic retrospective shot un-miss ability. Only in your fantasy land does that happen.

  • Yes, but you cannot un-miss a shot that is not possible, do you understand how basketball works? Nick Young was 3-8 he needs to take another shot to get his percentage up. There is no magic retrospective shot un-miss ability. Only in your fantasy land does that happen.

  • Wish all you want.
    Scott is in year 2 of a 4 year contract. The team isn’t going to pay him $16m just to coach last year.

    And, in case you haven’t noticed, this team is still subpar. So let’s let Scott do the dirty work of rebuilding the team before we look for a top flight coach to polish the diamond.

    Scott or not, making the playoffs will be a miracle…. and Thibodeau or Brooks aren’t magicians.

  • DUH, really blockhead? Did mention the regular season aside of Russ sitting out. Not sure about Huertas now though. He was in Hawaii and decided to go to Canada to try to fix his citizenship and now he’ll likely be missing out more than half the pre-season. Need to see solid minutes from Huertas to possibly waive Kelly, MWP or an un-guaranteed contract.

  • DUH, really blockhead? Did mention in the regular season aside of Russ sitting out. Not sure about Huertas now though. He was in Hawaii and decided to go to Canada to try to fix his citizenship and now he’ll likely be missing out more than half the pre-season. Need to see solid minutes from Huertas to possibly waive Kelly, MWP or an un-guaranteed contract.

  • but we’re not going to suck that bad. its very clear that Mavs, Nuggets, T’Wolves and Blazers suck harder (in the West alone). We actually have a legit shot at the 8th seed.

  • Don’t blame metta blame Holmes . The dude made 1 play and 5 errors tonight. If you can’t play in Ontario you can’t play at staples!!

  • but we’re not going to suck that bad. its very clear that Mavs, Nuggets, T’Wolves and Blazers suck harder (in the West alone). We actually have a legit shot at the 8th seed.

  • Don’t blame metta blame Holmes . The dude made 1 play and 5 errors tonight. If you can’t play in Ontario you can’t play at staples!!

  • no i agree but rember the cavs got bennett when they had the 10th worst record in the league. if we miss the playoffs there is allways a chance

  • no i agree but rember the cavs got bennett when they had the 10th worst record in the league. if we miss the playoffs there is allways a chance

  • As of now, Young IS the 3-point specialist. And in some situations, if we told him to go out ISO everyone and score he would thrive.

    I think we’re seeing him struggle in the first structured offense he’s played in since BEFORE we traded the 76’ers for him.

  • Lou is going to be overwhelmed in that lineup because the defense is going to focus on him but I would like to see that lineup play

  • As of now, Young IS the 3-point specialist. And in some situations, if we told him to go out ISO everyone and score he would thrive.

    I think we’re seeing him struggle in the first structured offense he’s played in since BEFORE we traded the 76’ers for him.

  • Lou is going to be overwhelmed in that lineup because the defense is going to focus on him but I would like to see that lineup play

  • Maybe you should put down the law books and pick up the microphone?
    =-)

    Thanks for the observations.

  • He pretty much did, he got by Nick Young about 4 or 5 times causing the bigs to foul him. Didn’t you see that?

  • I feel you on Hibbert but he’s just not built for that many boards a game. He’s never done it. And even if he does, Randle can still go get his. Desire from the young stud is what I need to see. The Brow did it. We need Randle to become transcendent like Barkley. I know it a tall order I’m pushing but it’s not impossible. My mindset is we don’t have time for lower expectations.

  • Maybe you should put down the law books and pick up the microphone?
    =-)

    Thanks for the observations.

  • He pretty much did, he got by Nick Young about 4 or 5 times causing the bigs to foul him. Didn’t you see that?

  • I feel you on Hibbert but he’s just not built for that many boards a game. He’s never done it. And even if he does, Randle can still go get his. Desire from the young stud is what I need to see. The Brow did it. We need Randle to become transcendent like Barkley. I know it a tall order I’m pushing but it’s not impossible. My mindset is we don’t have time for lower expectations.

  • Young played at the 2 tonight and he wasn’t good at either end of the court; I’m glad he is not going to take that roster spot otherwise we would nearly lose every game.

  • Sacre in 19 mins of play has combined for 1 block 2 rebounds, 1 assist 1 steal and 2 points
    Upshaw in one game with 25 mins 6 pts 2 blocks 1 assist and 3 rebounds.

    sacre in thrid season
    upshaw in first gam

  • Young played at the 2 tonight and he wasn’t good at either end of the court; I’m glad he is not going to take that roster spot otherwise we would nearly lose every game.

  • Sacre in 19 mins of play has combined for 1 block 2 rebounds, 1 assist 1 steal and 2 points
    Upshaw in one game with 25 mins 6 pts 2 blocks 1 assist and 3 rebounds.

    sacre in thrid season
    upshaw in first gam

  • Upshaw played ok for his first game I thought. Get rid of Sacre and Kelly now.

  • oh and by the way for what its worth the raptors blew the clippers out by 20 the other night

  • Upshaw played ok for his first game I thought. Get rid of Sacre and Kelly now.

  • oh and by the way for what its worth the raptors blew the clippers out by 20 the other night

  • no he did not. he got screens set for him. thats all about team talking to each other its not on nick

  • Don’t think the All-time Lakers had any issues with playing back to back games back in the day. Don’t want to hear excuses more so want to see progress.

  • Yes I did but that happens to every player. Nick isn’t going to stay in front of his man Every time and that goes for every one on the team. You gotta realize defense in the NBA is hard because these guys are super athletic and blow by anyond

  • no he did not. he got screens set for him. thats all about team talking to each other its not on nick

  • Don’t think the All-time Lakers had any issues with playing back to back games back in the day. Don’t want to hear excuses more so want to see progress.

  • Yes I did but that happens to every player. Nick isn’t going to stay in front of his man Every time and that goes for every one on the team. You gotta realize defense in the NBA is hard because these guys are super athletic and blow by anyond

  • I was intrigued as it seemed like MWP was being held back offensively. It’s odd for me to think that guy who was once the #1 guy on his offense barely scratched 6 points.

    Right now, he’s playing whatever “role” Scott has given him. And in this case, it’s a strict order to let the other guys be the offense.

    – Metta looks like he could still be a 13-15 point guy.

  • I was intrigued as it seemed like MWP was being held back offensively. It’s odd for me to think that guy who was once the #1 guy on his offense barely scratched 6 points.

    Right now, he’s playing whatever “role” Scott has given him. And in this case, it’s a strict order to let the other guys be the offense.

    – Metta looks like he could still be a 13-15 point guy.

  • I saw that all of the “regular” 3-point guys struggled tonight. It’s odd for me to think that Kobe, Metta, Young, Williams, and all the rest would hit the rim so many times.

    Tired legs, early in training camp, and rusty shooters.

  • Let’s also acknowledge how much Randle’s grown in one year.

    This time last year, he looked like an energy guy who might be good one day…..

  • I saw that all of the “regular” 3-point guys struggled tonight. It’s odd for me to think that Kobe, Metta, Young, Williams, and all the rest would hit the rim so many times.

    Tired legs, early in training camp, and rusty shooters.

    And, while Kobe is Kobe, he’s different…. He’s much more efficient, a better team player, and it’s obvious that he is deliberately trying to help mentor the young guys (especially Randle). only time will tell if Kobe reverts back to the Mamba. <- I doubt it.

  • Let’s also acknowledge how much Randle’s grown in one year.

    This time last year, he looked like an energy guy who might be good one day…..

    And think of how good he’ll be next season after he fully understands his place in the NBA and has 100% control of his talents.

  • ageed when he got the ball and backed himself into the paint his turnaround look nice

  • exactly we need to see what Huertas can do in a game situation. because right now Lou is handling the ball too much which I DON’T LIKE!

  • at the moment, yes. but in Frazier and ABrown, we have to young marksmen waiting to be groomed. Also, Holmes is a good shooter.

  • I’d take Jabari Brown over Frazier at this point. Both can shoot but Jabari has a better dribble drive game. And keep Young over Huertas, we haven’t even seem him play. Just rotate Clarkson to PG when Russell sits and play a 3-4 guard rotation. We should never have the entire 2nd string out there at once anyways. Black as primary backup to Hibbert til Upshaw develops some more. If Sacre is kept over either of them we should riot!

  • exactly we need to see what Huertas can do in a game situation. because right now Lou is handling the ball too much which I DON’T LIKE!

  • at the moment, yes. but in Frazier and ABrown, we have to young marksmen waiting to be groomed. Also, Holmes is a good shooter.

  • I’d take Jabari Brown over Frazier at this point. Both can shoot but Jabari has a better dribble drive game. And keep Young over Huertas, we haven’t even seem him play. Just rotate Clarkson to PG when Russell sits and play a 3-4 guard rotation. We should never have the entire 2nd string out there at once anyways. Black as primary backup to Hibbert til Upshaw develops some more. If Sacre is kept over either of them we should riot!

  • Hibbert: 28-32 min
    Randle: 30-34 min
    Bryant: 26-30 min
    Clarkson: 32-36 min
    Russell: 28-32 min

    Black: 14-18 min
    Bass: 16-20 min
    World Peace: 10-14 min
    Young: 18-22 min
    Williams: 18-22 min

  • im being realistic your looking at the high end wich i agree is possible but i dont see it happening because i only see him getting about 28-30 mpg because of bass

  • Injuries are part of sports. There is no absolute formula for preventing them. You have to leave it call on the floor every game or your not tru ing to succeed.

  • Hibbert: 28-32 min
    Randle: 30-34 min
    Bryant: 26-30 min
    Clarkson: 32-36 min
    Russell: 28-32 min

    Black: 14-18 min
    Bass: 16-20 min
    World Peace: 10-14 min
    Young: 18-22 min
    Williams: 18-22 min

  • im being realistic your looking at the high end wich i agree is possible but i dont see it happening because i only see him getting about 28-30 mpg because of bass

  • Injuries are part of sports. There is no absolute formula for preventing them. You have to leave it all on the floor every game or your not trying to succeed.

    Do you think Kobe was cautious as a youngster? That thought does not exist in the mind of a young stud.

  • RE: Young Clippers
    3 seasons ago. Since then, he was told to be a hero and be entertaining which sadly feeds into the Swaggy Ego.

  • RE: Young Clippers
    3 seasons ago. Since then, he was told to be a hero and be entertaining which sadly feeds into the Swaggy Ego.

  • yea.. but u know how lucky cavs got that year? they had like a 5% chance to get the top pick and they got lucky. stuff like that doesn’t happen every year. i highly doubt we’ll have a first round pick next year.

  • yea.. but u know how lucky cavs got that year? they had like a 5% chance to get the top pick and they got lucky. stuff like that doesn’t happen every year. i highly doubt we’ll have a first round pick next year.

  • hibbert 32
    randle 30
    kobe 32
    clark 32
    russ 30

    black 16
    bass 18
    young 25
    will 25

    my projected 9 man rotation

  • hibbert 32
    randle 30
    kobe 32
    clark 32
    russ 30

    black 16
    bass 18
    young 25
    will 25

    my projected 9 man rotation

  • true but it is also the lakers so the league might throw us a bone like they did for the clippers and cavs

  • Hibbert / Black / Upshaw
    Randle / Bass / Nance
    Bryant / World Peace / Brown
    Clarkson / Young / Frazier
    Russell / Williams / Huertas

    We need a solid Defensive minded SF, Kobe and Metta can’t compete for 82 games, and Brown is too young. Every wing player has gone off on all 3 games against us.

    Upshaw is way too raw, and needs more playing time, but is still better than Sacre.

    I really want to see Huertas play, we have no pure point guard playing right now. Two young combo guards learning to play together, and Lou isn’t comfortable handling the ball up and down the court every time.

    Cut Sacre, Kelly, Holmes, and Jabari.

  • Seriously man, it’s a sickness. Kind of like a white knight syndrome, where your knight can do no wrong. Nick Young could go 2-13, no boards, no assists, 3 turnovers. But you’d still say he played well because he won the game or something.

  • true but it is also the lakers so the league might throw us a bone like they did for the clippers and cavs

  • Hibbert / Black / Upshaw
    Randle / Bass / Nance
    Bryant / World Peace / Brown
    Clarkson / Young / Frazier
    Russell / Williams / Huertas

    We need a solid Defensive minded SF, Kobe and Metta can’t compete for 82 games, and Brown is too young. Every wing player has gone off on all 3 games against us.

    Upshaw is way too raw, and needs more playing time, but is still better than Sacre.

    I really want to see Huertas play, we have no pure point guard playing right now. Two young combo guards learning to play together, and Lou isn’t comfortable handling the ball up and down the court every time.

    Cut Sacre, Kelly, Holmes, and Jabari.

  • Hibbert / Black / Upshaw
    Randle / Bass / Nance
    Bryant / World Peace / Brown
    Clarkson / Young / Frazier
    Russell / Williams / Huertas

    We need a solid Defensive minded SF, Kobe and Metta can’t compete for 82 games, and Brown is too young. Every wing player has gone off on all 3 games against us.

    Upshaw is way too raw, and needs more playing time, but is still better than Sacre.

    I really want to see Huertas play, we have no pure point guard playing right now. Two young combo guards learning to play together, and Lou isn’t comfortable handling the ball up and down the court every time.

    Cut Sacre, Kelly, Holmes, and Jabari.

  • Seriously man, it’s a sickness. Kind of like a white knight syndrome, where your knight can do no wrong. Nick Young could go 2-13, no boards, no assists, 3 turnovers. But you’d still say he played well because he won the game or something.

  • Seriously man, it’s a sickness. Kind of like a white knight syndrome, where your knight can do no wrong. Nick Young could go 2-13, no boards, no assists, 3 turnovers. But you’d still say he played well because he won the game or something.

  • thats because the other hopefuls haven’t got enough playing time. Kelly hasn’t shot a single 3-pointer. he hasn’t spaced the floor. he’s driven to the basket a few times but that’s not his strength. he’s supposed to be a stretch 4 and i’m sorry he’s just not a good enough shooter.

  • thats because the other hopefuls haven’t got enough playing time. Kelly hasn’t shot a single 3-pointer. he hasn’t spaced the floor. he’s driven to the basket a few times but that’s not his strength. he’s supposed to be a stretch 4 and i’m sorry he’s just not a good enough shooter.

  • thats because the other hopefuls haven’t got enough playing time. Kelly hasn’t shot a single 3-pointer. he hasn’t spaced the floor. he’s driven to the basket a few times but that’s not his strength. he’s supposed to be a stretch 4 and i’m sorry he’s just not a good enough shooter.

  • disagree hes been playing for the team so far and his defense has been really nice so far.

  • I’m so glad for these preseason games. Otherwise, BS would have started Bass over Randle and crushed the young kid’s confidence. Julius has proven that HE FUCKIN BELONGS and he IS AN ABSOLUTE BEAST!!! Won’t be surprised if Randle finishes with 18-9-5 this season. He just needs to be better his elbow jumper. If he can do that, bah gawd there’ll be no stopping this guy.

  • disagree hes been playing for the team so far and his defense has been really nice so far.

  • I’m so glad for these preseason games. Otherwise, BS would have started Bass over Randle and crushed the young kid’s confidence. Julius has proven that HE FUCKIN BELONGS and he IS AN ABSOLUTE BEAST!!! Won’t be surprised if Randle finishes with 18-9-5 this season. He just needs to better his elbow jumper. If he can do that, bah gawd there’ll be no stopping this guy.

  • Difference is we know what Kelly is. A below average player with a low ceiling. Other prospects have potential. Holmes plays hard, has quick feet and is known for his jumper. Just on hustle alone he is a better prospect than kelly.

  • Difference is we know what Kelly is. A below average player with a low ceiling. Other prospects have potential. Holmes plays hard, has quick feet and is known for his jumper. Just on hustle alone he is a better prospect than kelly.

  • Nah, I’d consider a 14 man roster come deadline. Final roster would likely involve cutting Holmes, Frazier, Sacre, Huertas possibly (no show, on him), and Kelly. Looking at the depth chart for the team they could do away with Huertas if he ever auditions/fails to impress.

    That make Lou the 3rd stringer or they can pick someone else up (pg) with a 14 man roster. SG’s would be Lou and J Brown since Kobe be at the 3 along with Young and A Brown. A total of nine players at the 4 and 5 currently.

  • no. i just look at the facts. you dont like him or you have your own bias against him and unless he hits a number you want him to hes trash in you eyes.

    on the other hand i look at the game. the rotations the pt the plays being ran and can see who is doing their job.

    nick played fine not great but fine.

    to you unless he is above 50% or has 20 points hes just a scrub.

  • Sacre, Kelly, Holmes, J. Brown, and Upshaw aren’t NBA worthy. Wouldn’t be surprised if they all get cut. Metta is a good veteran presence but he’s so slow and can’t handle the ball to save his life. And Byron Scott hates Nick Young as much as I hate Byron Scott. Who knows if he’ll be on the team by the trade deadline. And we have yet to see Huertas play a game so…

    Hibbert, Black
    Randle, Bass, Nance
    Bryant, Brown
    Clarkson, Williams
    Russell

    Are locks to make the team.

  • One, I think the starters play better without Russell. Two, it’s good to see Kobe still have it. Three, Randle is exciting to watch. Four, I am worried about defense. Mr. Defense Byron Scott has yet to live up to his name. Lastly, please stop all those flaggings. Even trolls should have the right to free speech. Until the flaggers actually own this site and declare it members only, please stop those unAmerican behavior.

  • Nah, I’d consider a 14 man roster come deadline. Final roster would likely involve cutting Holmes, Frazier, Sacre, Huertas possibly (no show, on him), and Kelly. Looking at the depth chart for the team they could do away with Huertas if he ever auditions/fails to impress.

    That make Lou the 3rd stringer or they can pick someone else up (pg) with a 14 man roster. SG’s would be Lou and J Brown since Kobe be at the 3 along with Young and A Brown. A total of nine players at the 4 and 5 currently.

  • no. i just look at the facts. you dont like him or you have your own bias against him and unless he hits a number you want him to hes trash in you eyes.

    on the other hand i look at the game. the rotations the pt the plays being ran and can see who is doing their job.

    nick played fine not great but fine.

    to you unless he is above 50% or has 20 points hes just a scrub.

  • Sacre, Kelly, Holmes, J. Brown, and Upshaw aren’t NBA worthy. Wouldn’t be surprised if they all get cut. Metta is a good veteran presence but he’s so slow and can’t handle the ball to save his life. And Byron Scott hates Nick Young as much as I hate Byron Scott. Who knows if he’ll be on the team by the trade deadline. And we have yet to see Huertas play a game so…

    Hibbert, Black
    Randle, Bass, Nance
    Bryant, Brown
    Clarkson, Williams
    Russell

    Are locks to make the team.

  • One, I think the starters play better without Russell. Two, it’s good to see Kobe still have it. Three, Randle is exciting to watch. Four, I am worried about defense. Mr. Defense Byron Scott has yet to live up to his name. Lastly, please stop all those flaggings. Even trolls should have the right to free speech. Until the flaggers actually own this site and declare it members only, please stop those unAmerican behavior.

  • i dont disagree but imo kelly has looked solid and is making about 1.6m this season his contract could be throw into a trade later in the year for an extra 2m in value which is why unless hes out played i keep him

  • i dont disagree but imo kelly has looked solid and is making about 1.6m this season his contract could be throw into a trade later in the year for an extra 2m in value which is why unless hes out played i keep him

  • i dont disagree but imo kelly has looked solid and is making about 1.6m this season his contract could be throw into a trade later in the year for an extra 2m in value which is why unless hes out played i keep him

  • idk what game you were waching upshaw look great tonight for his first reall action in about a year

  • idk what game you were waching upshaw look great tonight for his first reall action in about a year

  • idk what game you were waching upshaw look great tonight for his first reall action in about a year

  • defense is still an issue but you have to admit the defense is improving and better than last season

  • defense is still an issue but you have to admit the defense is improving and better than last season

  • Seriously, Upshaw is a 7 foot athlete with untapped potential. Black is undersized but has a high motor and understands angles. Sacre is 7 foot cheerleader… I’ll riot

  • Seriously, Upshaw is a 7 foot athlete with untapped potential. Black is undersized but has a high motor and understands angles. Sacre is 7 foot cheerleader… I’ll riot

  • Seriously, Upshaw is a 7 foot athlete with untapped potential. Black is undersized but has a high motor and understands angles. Sacre is 7 foot cheerleader… I’ll riot

  • Seems like D-League for him then. He may not make the team, but that doesn’t mean he’s done. I have a feeling he’ll make in somewhere eventually, if not with the Lakers.

  • That’s not true. A player will deal with fatigue and getting use to the nightly grunge of an NBA season I hope you’re right tho.

  • Seems like D-League for him then. He may not make the team, but that doesn’t mean he’s done. I have a feeling he’ll make in somewhere eventually, if not with the Lakers.

  • That’s not entirely true. A player will deal with fatigue and getting use to the nightly grind of an NBA season I hope you’re right tho.

  • That’s not entirely true. A player will deal with fatigue and getting use to the nightly grind of an NBA season I hope you’re right tho.

  • 1. agree about russel and i believe its because russ and clark dont want to get in each others way and overthink the game.

    2.agreed

    3.agreed. but its still preseason and he has a long way to go

    4.the defense is better then last seasons and once we get a regular rotation out there instead of this mix match crap things will get even better

    .

  • Kobe, Clarkson, Randle and Hibbert were playing with chemistry, when the ball got to Nick Young, it stopped, and he looked for his own shot before he looked for the other guys. He was the weak link in the starting lineup, he doesn’t belong there and with Lou’s poor defense, there is no room for him being on the other wing to Lou. He has no role in this team other than as Lou’s backup. If DLo were playing, Nick Young would likely have not played at all. Accept that he is a one trick pony, I’m not a big fan of Kobe’s over the past season but I will admit he looks great in the little time he has played, so this is not bias at all. I can fully admit when a player is deserving of praise, Nick Young is not that player. He like Robert Sacre has shown no improvement or even willingness to improve.

  • Then why post the comment dummy. Everyone knows he won’t play PG so why you mad?

  • hes better then scare and should be our third string center barring a screw up on his part

  • 1. agree about russel and i believe its because russ and clark dont want to get in each others way and overthink the game.

    2.agreed

    3.agreed. but its still preseason and he has a long way to go

    4.the defense is better then last seasons and once we get a regular rotation out there instead of this mix match crap things will get even better

    .

  • Kobe, Clarkson, Randle and Hibbert were playing with chemistry, when the ball got to Nick Young, it stopped, and he looked for his own shot before he looked for the other guys. He was the weak link in the starting lineup, he doesn’t belong there and with Lou’s poor defense, there is no room for him being on the other wing to Lou. He has no role in this team other than as Lou’s backup. If DLo were playing, Nick Young would likely have not played at all. Accept that he is a one trick pony, I’m not a big fan of Kobe’s over the past season but I will admit he looks great in the little time he has played, so this is not bias at all. I can fully admit when a player is deserving of praise, Nick Young is not that player. He like Robert Sacre has shown no improvement or even willingness to improve.

  • Then why post the comment dummy. Everyone knows he won’t play PG so why you mad?

  • hes better then scare and should be our third string center barring a screw up on his part

  • 5 assists is a little too much.
    15.8 ppg
    7.5 rpg
    3.2 apg
    1.1 stl
    0.8 blk
    i can see this statline

  • no your bias is showing.

    nick is not a starter in this league. but he went against a top 5 sg tonight and held his own for a good part of the night. he is a bench player and will look great next to lou and bass

  • Oh I’m being realistic. If he goes out there intent to get it and dominate, Bass and Hibbert won’t matter. He’ll get his roll on….

  • 5 assists is a little too much.
    15.8 ppg
    7.5 rpg
    3.2 apg
    1.1 stl
    0.8 blk
    i can see this statline

  • no your bias is showing.

    nick is not a starter in this league. but he went against a top 5 sg tonight and held his own for a good part of the night. he is a bench player and will look great next to lou and bass

  • Oh I’m being realistic. If he goes out there intent to get it and dominate, Bass and Hibbert won’t matter. He’ll get his roll on….

  • Hibbert: 10-9-1
    Randle: 12-7-2
    Bryant: 17-5-4
    Clarkson: 15-4-3
    Russell: 11-5-6

    Black: 6-5-0
    Bass: 8-4-1
    Artest: 5-2-1
    Young: 12-2-1
    Williams: 10-2-3

  • Hibbert: 10-9-1
    Randle: 12-7-2
    Bryant: 17-5-4
    Clarkson: 15-4-3
    Russell: 11-5-6

    Black: 6-5-0
    Bass: 8-4-1
    Artest: 5-2-1
    Young: 12-2-1
    Williams: 10-2-3

  • I don’t think he’ll be playing any more than 30 minutes, and will be handling the ball much less

  • Trust me, at the end of this season one of Lou or Nick Young will have been traded.

  • will take that gladly. but julius is going to get better and better with his handling and passes. BS has already given him the green light to handle the ball so much, so i think his assists will only rise.

  • I don’t think he’ll be playing any more than 30 minutes, and will be handling the ball much less

  • Trust me, at the end of this season one of Lou or Nick Young will have been traded.

  • will take that gladly. but julius is going to get better and better with his handling and passes. BS has already given him the green light to handle the ball so much, so i think his assists will only rise.

  • bro highly doubt J Brown makes the squad after his shoddy performances so far (in the preseason). don’t think that kid is good enough. Would rather invest in Holmes and Frazier – two guys we’ve signed to multi-year deals.

  • not with 28-30mpg if he played 30 mpg he would need to get a rebound every 3.5 mins thats alot considering vet players like howard and dj get a rebound about every 3

  • I wouldn’t miss out on a prospect for a potential trade value that may never materialize. Worthy spoke very highly of Holmes. And his defense on limited minutes opened my eyes a bit.

  • bro highly doubt J Brown makes the squad after his shoddy performances so far (in the preseason). don’t think that kid is good enough. Would rather invest in Holmes and Frazier – two guys we’ve signed to multi-year deals.

  • not with 28-30mpg if he played 30 mpg he would need to get a rebound every 3.5 mins thats alot considering vet players like howard and dj get a rebound about every 3

  • I wouldn’t miss out on a prospect for a potential trade value that may never materialize. Worthy spoke very highly of Holmes. And his defense on limited minutes opened my eyes a bit.

  • thats true but with 4 legit ball handlers and 5 great passers in the starting line up every ones assist numbers will be lower then they could be

  • The flip side to that is you run the risk of breaking their spirit.

    That’s heavy responsibility and expectations for 19 and 20 year olds in their first season.

  • thats true but with 4 legit ball handlers and 5 great passers in the starting line up every ones assist numbers will be lower then they could be

  • The flip side to that is you run the risk of breaking their spirit.

    That’s heavy responsibility and expectations for 19 and 20 year olds in their first season.

  • Right now, to win / close out games: Upshaw, Hibbert, Swag, KB, and Lou at the Point. LW led Lakers, against Raptors 19 pts. WOW!!

  • Jordan > Hibbert
    Griffin > Randle
    Pierce > Bryant
    Redick > Clarkson
    Paul > Russell

  • Right now, to win / close out games: Upshaw, Hibbert, Swag, KB, and Lou at the Point. LW led Lakers, against Raptors 19 pts. WOW!!

  • Future?? Upshaw 21 yo; Randal 21 yo; and sub to Swag, Clarkson 23 yo. I think Anthony Brown 23 yo is also future PG – just need to see more of AB, to know for sure.

  • i see about 30-32 mins if he stays healthy.

    if he took 18 shots pergame and made 8.2 thats at least 16 ppg right there on about 45% shooting now add the 6-10 free throws per game hes going to get.

    that jumps him to about 22-26ppg depending on his free throw %

  • Future?? Upshaw 21 yo; Randal 21 yo; and sub to Swag, Clarkson 23 yo. I think Anthony Brown 23 yo is also future PG – just need to see more of AB, to know for sure.

  • i see about 30-32 mins if he stays healthy.

    if he took 18 shots pergame and made 8.2 thats at least 16 ppg right there on about 45% shooting now add the 6-10 free throws per game hes going to get.

    that jumps him to about 22-26ppg depending on his free throw %

    take into account i counted all of his shots as twos and no threes so he could shot less if hes hitting the three and still get right around 20-25ppg

    the bigg thing is getting his fg% back up

  • Lakers now have TWIN TOWERS – Upshaw and Hibbert. The Ultimate rim protection. Go Lakers.

  • My Bubble List.

    I’m not going write a depth chart because I think it’s got a lot of moving pieces with MWP, Young, the #3 PG, and the problem with the #2 center.

    Young: To me, Young is a carbon copy of JR Smith. I think he’s got talent and could be a great piece on a very structured and championship level team. But, I am not sure that the Lakers are a good match for his skills THIS season. In a perfect world, the team would let Young finish his contract in LA and help be a part of the next era. But I think (this year) he’s a slightly mismatched piece and would have more value to another team. And I am not sure his contributions will match his ability. He’s too valuable to be waived, but I’m not sure that I see a long term future for him…. but you never know.

    Kelly: I’m not sure that Mitch would want to get rid of his Stretch-4 project just yet. When Kelly plays PF, he’s a capable backup. It’s odd that in the 2 games he’s played he’s only made 8-9 total shots. He’s in year 3, and is a perfect candidate to bloom, and i think, he can become the next Ryan Anderson for the right team. If he’s not traded, I think he makes the final 15.

    Black: This was the second game where he didn’t play. In a perfect world he’d be a #3 center and a small ball specialist. And somehow when bass played center he was MUCH better. And if there were no roster cap he’d be kept around…Black is my candidate for Surprise Cut.

    JBrown: Hasn’t shown enough improvement to lock into the 15 man roster. And given that Clarkson and Williams will get the lions share of minutes, and Frazier seems like he’s being groomed as the team’s new Ellington… He’s odd-man-out. The problem is that he’s probably a tad bit too good to stick in the Dleague.

    Holmes: I see everything his scouting report said he’d be. He IS a tweener with no set position… Is he a SF or a PF? Lucking for him, in the Princeton, the two are *kinda* the same. To me, he’s a guy you try to keep, and It wouldn’t surprise me if he is the 1 “safe” player the team designates to the DLeague. He needs playing time more than anything else. He needs to find his place in the NBA and build confidence. I think he could grow into a very solid 6th man type “utility” forward eventually.

    Upshaw: I think he’s a lock. I think he’s the epitome of a #3 deep bench guy who is a project, but I think he’s a lock. We need to stop thinking that he’s a backup or anything more than a project and a viable solution *maybe* after the all star game, but more realistically next season. To me, as he plays today, he’s exactly the type of guy you put in during Garbage time who plays havok with subpar guys, and a guy who you send to play in some DLeague games during the season just to get experience. While he’s a project, and epitome of a guy who would prosper by having a year in the DLeague, but there is NO WAY he doesn’t get poached. If the team doesn’t use one of the 15 roster spots on him, he WON’T be in a lakers uniform ever again.

    Sacre: Upshaws’ play in the last 2 games sealed Sacre’s fate. he could make a good practice squad guy for a very deep team, a veteran team, or he could go home to Toronto and be a local hero. I expect to hear that he’s been waived or traded in the upcoming week.

    *** Notice however, the team STILL needs a #2 center as Black and Upshaw would (and should) be developmental 3rd string guys and aren’t good enough to be true 2nd string centers.

  • No diss, F freakin excuses. They’ve averaged just over 26% from the 3pt line the last 3 games (13.3%,25.9%,39.1%). Let’s not blame Scott too, this is a business, thus handle it like one.

  • Lakers now have TWIN TOWERS – Upshaw and Hibbert. The Ultimate rim protection. Go Lakers.

  • My Bubble List.

    I’m not going write a depth chart because I think it’s got a lot of moving pieces with MWP, Young, the #3 PG, and the problem with the #2 center.

    Young: To me, Young is a carbon copy of JR Smith. I think he’s got talent and could be a great piece on a very structured and championship level team. But, I am not sure that the Lakers are a good match for his skills THIS season. In a perfect world, the team would let Young finish his contract in LA and help be a part of the next era. But I think (this year) he’s a slightly mismatched piece and would have more value to another team. And I am not sure his contributions will match his ability. He’s too valuable to be waived, but I’m not sure that I see a long term future for him…. but you never know.

    Kelly: I’m not sure that Mitch would want to get rid of his Stretch-4 project just yet. When Kelly plays PF, he’s a capable backup. It’s odd that in the 2 games he’s played he’s only made 8-9 total shots. He’s in year 3, and is a perfect candidate to bloom, and i think, he can become the next Ryan Anderson for the right team. If he’s not traded, I think he makes the final 15. <- Trade Candidate.

    Black: This was the second game where he didn’t play. In a perfect world he’d be a #3 center and a small ball specialist. And somehow when bass played center he was MUCH better. And if there were no roster cap he’d be kept around…Black is my candidate for Surprise Cut, and it’s not that he doesn’t have potential or promise, it’s just that he’s another mismatched piece, and the 15 man roster cap creates problems. <- Trade Candidate.

    Frazier: He’s such an odd duck. in 4 years of college he led the division as a 3 point guy… So he should be a proven guy as shooters don’t suddenly forget…..But was cut from the Warrior SL team for being horrible. And, so far, he hasn’t been stellar for the Lakers. It will say however, it’s interesting how he’s gotten over 20 minutes per game in the last 2 games, and has been limited to 5 shots per game. I think Scott is playing his “player development” games with him and the team has visions of him in the future as the next ellington or meeks. I think he needs time to grow into his NBA shot as I find it really hard to understand how a relatively proven player excels in college and goes flat in the NBA. <- Despite his uninspiring play so far, I think he's safe.

    JBrown: Hasn’t shown enough improvement to lock into the 15 man roster. And given that Clarkson and Williams will get the lions share of minutes, and Frazier seems like he’s being groomed as the team’s new Ellington… He’s odd-man-out. The problem is that he’s probably a tad bit too good to stick in the Dleague and not good enough to be traded.

    Holmes: I see everything his scouting report said he’d be. He IS a tweener with no set position… Is he a SF or a PF? Lucking for him, in the Princeton, the two are *kinda* the same. To me, he’s a guy you try to keep, and It wouldn’t surprise me if he is the 1 “safe” player the team designates to the DLeague. He needs playing time more than anything else. He needs to find his place in the NBA and build confidence. I think he could grow into a very solid 6th man type “utility” forward eventually.

    Upshaw: I think he’s a lock. I think he’s the epitome of a #3 deep bench guy who is a project, but I think he’s a lock. We need to stop thinking that he’s a backup or anything more than a project and a viable solution *maybe* after the all star game, but more realistically next season. To me, as he plays today, he’s exactly the type of guy you put in during Garbage time who plays havok with subpar guys, and a guy who you send to play in some DLeague games during the season just to get experience. While he’s a project, and epitome of a guy who would prosper by having a year in the DLeague, but there is NO WAY he doesn’t get poached if sent there. If the team doesn’t use one of the 15 roster spots on him, he WON’T be in a lakers uniform ever again.

    Sacre: Upshaws’ play in the last 2 games sealed Sacre’s fate. he could make a good practice squad guy for a very deep team, a veteran team, or he could go home to Toronto and be a local hero. I expect to hear that he’s been waived or traded in the upcoming week.

    *** Notice however, the team STILL needs a #2 center as Black and Upshaw would (and should) be developmental 3rd string guys and aren’t good enough to be true 2nd string centers.

    Once the team trims the roster and clears the clutter from last year, I think Mitch has found 2-3 steals in the undrafted ranks and rebuilt the core for the future.

  • No diss, F freakin excuses. They’ve averaged just over 26% from the 3pt line the last 3 games (13.3%,25.9%,39.1%). Let’s not blame Scott too, business, thus produce.

  • i think the most awesome thing is our starting 5 is PROPERLY SET. there were many question marks before preseason. we are ready now.

  • i think the most awesome thing is our starting 5 is PROPERLY SET. there were many question marks before preseason. we are ready now.

  • hibbert can actually make free throws and deandre is horrible at the line so thats that…
    griffin aint punking randle, randle is going to attack him and expose his lazy defense
    kobe vs pierce is just a good old veteran matchup nothing much to say
    clarkson does everything better except shooting than redick
    paul will probably have his way with russell but not without russell hitting some jumpers in his face

  • hibbert can actually make free throws and deandre is horrible at the line so thats that…
    griffin aint punking randle, randle is going to attack him and expose his lazy defense
    kobe vs pierce is just a good old veteran matchup nothing much to say
    clarkson does everything better than redick except shooting
    paul will probably have his way with russell but not without russell hitting some jumpers in his face

  • Damn knew you’d troll too. But preseason = experimentation time. It’s not working aside of Russ’s injury that forces Lou at the 1 since Huertas is a no show. On him too, Huertas was in Hawaii and may lose a shot in making the final cut.

  • Damn knew you’d troll too. But preseason = experimentation time. It’s not working aside of Russ’s injury that forces Lou at the 1 since Huertas is a no show. On him too, Huertas was in Hawaii and may lose a shot in making the final cut.

  • I think Sacre/Kelly/J. Brown/Holmes should be cut.

    Black would be a solid backup Center with Randle/Bass playing beside him at the 4.

  • What do you want Clarkson to do he had 11 and 6 and didn’t even have the ball alot Kobe played good solid defense and offensive.please stop trying to find something to complain about.

  • its so funny because nick young and jr smith are like clones and perhaps nick can do what jr smith did for the cavs last season.
    this team could use kelly as the stretch 5 if you think upshaw and black arent ready

  • I think Sacre/Kelly/J. Brown/Holmes should be cut.

    Black would be a solid backup Center with Randle/Bass playing beside him at the 4.

  • What do you want Clarkson to do he had 11 and 6 and didn’t even have the ball alot Kobe played good solid defense and offensive.please stop trying to find something to complain about.

  • its so funny because nick young and jr smith are like clones and perhaps nick can do what jr smith did for the cavs last season.
    this team could use kelly as the stretch 5 if you think upshaw and black arent ready

  • Better than last season is not a measure of success. Improvement is meaningless because last season was really crap. But, that’s my observation so far. And, my point is defense under Byron should be above league average. Let’s raise our expectation. No one should get a pass this season. Definitely not Byron Scott.

  • He makes the cut, he can shoot it aside of his athleticism. The issue IMO is his lack of concentration given his temper. He seems to play mad and tends to force things at times.

    He’s played hard headed this pre-season and needs to control his temper. But he can impact the team more so than the other players mentioned which goes for Kelly too.

  • Better than last season is not a measure of success. Improvement is meaningless because last season was really crap. But, that’s my observation so far. And, my point is defense under Byron should be above league average. Let’s raise our expectation. No one should get a pass this season. Definitely not Byron Scott.

  • He makes the cut, he can shoot it aside of his athleticism. The issue IMO is his lack of concentration given his temper. He seems to play mad and tends to force things at times.

    He’s played hard headed this pre-season and needs to control his temper. But he can impact the team more so than the other players mentioned which goes for Kelly too.

  • Again you have some valid points but I can’t completely agree.

    Yes injuries are part of the game but you have to minimize risk. You have to be smart about the risks you ask these young bodies to take.

    They are still filling into their bodies. Yeah the extra time will help in their physical development but at how much risk.

    We have to manage their development wisely.

  • Again you have some valid points but I can’t completely agree.

    Yes injuries are part of the game but you have to minimize risk. You have to be smart about the risks you ask these young bodies to take.

    They are still filling into their bodies. Yeah the extra time will help in their physical development but at how much risk.

    We have to manage their development wisely.

  • I agree.
    But, I think he gets spot minutes with the starters. And is on the floor for the first 4-5 minutes of every game.

    Russell should dominate against bench squad guys, but getting torched by Westbrook would be good for him just the same.

  • I agree.
    But, I think he gets spot minutes with the starters. And is on the floor for the first 4-5 minutes of every game.

    Russell should dominate against bench squad guys, but getting torched by Westbrook would be good for him just the same.

  • I agree he needs to develop his perimeter game but what I’m saying is everything in due time. For now he should stick to what he’s good at.

  • I agree he needs to develop his perimeter game but what I’m saying is everything in due time. For now he should stick to what he’s good at.

  • young agreed

    kelly agreed imo in the fight for the 15th spot

    black agreed but i believe he will be our back up center to start the season

    jbrown agreed but imo will be in the fight for the 15th spot

    holms i like what i see but i need to see another game of him

    upshaw he looked better then scare ever his in this game

    scare agreed

  • young agreed

    kelly agreed imo in the fight for the 15th spot

    black agreed but i believe he will be our back up center to start the season

    jbrown agreed but imo will be in the fight for the 15th spot

    holms i like what i see but i need to see another game of him

    upshaw he looked better then scare ever his in this game

    scare agreed

  • 1. Lakers still don’t have a definitive backup 5
    2. No Capable SF who can play D and 82 games
    3. Too many SG playing out of position
    4. No natural point guard
    5. Predictable offense, Meidocre man to man D

  • 1. Lakers still don’t have a definitive backup 5
    2. No Capable SF who can play D and 82 games
    3. Too many SG playing out of position
    4. No natural point guard
    5. Predictable offense, Meidocre man to man D

  • Pretty much. D’Antoni was 7 seconds or less/run down the court and chuck it.

  • Pretty much. D’Antoni was 7 seconds or less/run down the court and chuck it.

  • 1. black and upshaw can be servicable

    2. true but we have kobe mwp and young who can fill out the spot nicely

    3. not true

    4. not true

    5. that comes with the rotation mis match

  • 1. black and upshaw can be servicable

    2. true but we have kobe mwp and young who can fill out the spot nicely

    3. not true

    4. not true

    5. that comes with the rotation mis match

  • Hibbert ✔️
    Randle ✔️
    Bryant ✔️
    Clarkson ✔️
    Russell ✔️
    Black✔️
    Bass✔️
    Williams✔️
    Nance✔️
    Brown✔️

    Upshaw❓
    Sacre ❌
    Kelly ❓
    Holmes ❌
    World Peace ❓
    Young ❓
    Frazier ❓
    Brown ❌
    Huertas ❓

  • not really. both of them will make eachother better because it is harder to double team them with the other around

  • Hibbert ✔️
    Randle ✔️
    Bryant ✔️
    Clarkson ✔️
    Russell ✔️
    Black✔️
    Bass✔️
    Williams✔️
    Nance✔️
    Brown✔️

    Upshaw❓
    Sacre ❌
    Kelly ❓
    Holmes ❌
    World Peace ❓
    Young ❓
    Frazier ❓
    Brown ❌
    Huertas ❓

  • not really. both of them will make eachother better because it is harder to double team them with the other around

  • if your questioning upshaw u cant have cut scare all ready 1 of those two will make this team

  • if your questioning upshaw u cant have cut scare all ready 1 of those two will make this team

  • Not so fast, Upshaw, swaggy and huertas is in there, besides who else we gonna get?
    He already x out the others

  • Not so fast, Upshaw, swaggy and huertas is in there, besides who else we gonna get?
    He already x out the others

  • That’s why I said iffy. We need to see how heasy plays with Huertas and Russell in a more stable roster.

  • still feel Cousins will be a Laker at some stage. But personally, I’d keep Roy as the defensive anchor.

  • That’s why I said iffy. We need to see how he plays with Huertas and Russell in a more stable roster.

  • still feel Cousins will be a Laker at some stage. But personally, I’d keep Roy as the defensive anchor.

  • you know if Randle and Clarkson turn into what they are PROMISING TO, the 2014 draft could go down as the one of the most important in our history. We could have drafted two absolute gems.

  • you know if Randle and Clarkson turn into what they are PROMISING TO, the 2014 draft could go down as the one of the most important in our history. We could have drafted two absolute gems.

  • atm my full team is

    starters: russ, clark, kobe, randle, hibbert
    bench: lou, young, bass, black
    reservs: hez, a brown, mwp, kelly, nance, upshaw

  • I’m hoping Holmes gets more playing time to show his worth, he already got more boards in his 14 minutes than Kelly managed in the past two games. The problem with Kelly is as a stretch 4, you can’t even rely on him to hit the 3, he often will pass the ball rather than take an open shot. In the last game too, he drove to the basket twice and instead of taking a shot, he would pass to a team mate with a shot that was even less likely to go in. Guy plays scared and you can tell.

  • atm my full team is

    starters: russ, clark, kobe, randle, hibbert
    bench: lou, young, bass, black
    reservs: hez, a brown, mwp, kelly, nance, upshaw

  • I’m hoping Holmes gets more playing time to show his worth, he already got more boards in his 14 minutes than Kelly managed in the past two games. The problem with Kelly is as a stretch 4, you can’t even rely on him to hit the 3, he often will pass the ball rather than take an open shot. In the last game too, he drove to the basket twice and instead of taking a shot, he would pass to a team mate with a shot that was even less likely to go in. Guy plays scared and you can tell.

  • That’s to be expected for someone who was written off.

    He has allot to prove within a small window.

  • Keep

    Center: Hibbert / Black / Upshaw
    Power Forward: Randle / Bass / Nance
    Small Forward: Bryant / Artest / Brown
    Shooting Guard: Clarkson / Young / Frazier
    Point Guard: Russell / Williams / Huertas

    Cut

    Center: Sacre
    Power Forward: Kelly
    Small Forward: Holmes
    Shooting Guard: Brown
    Point Guard: Scott

  • Keep

    Center: Hibbert / Black / Upshaw
    Power Forward: Randle / Bass / Nance
    Small Forward: Bryant / Artest / Brown
    Shooting Guard: Clarkson / Young / Frazier
    Point Guard: Russell / Williams / Huertas

    Cut

    Center: Sacre
    Power Forward: Kelly
    Small Forward: Holmes
    Shooting Guard: Brown
    Point Guard: Scott

  • I have a feeling BS wants at least one of those games as a win. If not BS, Kobe.

  • I have a feeling BS wants at least one of those games as a win. If not BS, Kobe.

  • Playing well. Wish we had more roster spots.
    Who knew upshaw could hit a turnaround fadeaway jumper. He’s slow laterally and should’ve rejected Joseph a couple more times tonight…but I like him. Very active.

    Everybody is active. Can’t complain or nit pick. The problems should wither away as the team builds chemistry and conditioning/rhythm.

    Randle showed his z bo tonight. Then flashed Odom in transition. Getting better

    Clarkson is finally slowing down and passing the ball. He’s a smarter player now. Experience helps

    Lou playing like the 6 god

    3pt shooting needs improvement. I want to see more 3 celebrations! Clown on those mofos out there! Build that team spirit

  • Playing well. Wish we had more roster spots.
    Who knew upshaw could hit a turnaround fadeaway jumper. He’s slow laterally and should’ve rejected Joseph a couple more times tonight…but I like him. Very active.

    Everybody is active. Can’t complain or nit pick. The problems should wither away as the team builds chemistry and conditioning/rhythm.

    Randle showed his z bo tonight. Then flashed Odom in transition. Getting better

    Clarkson is finally slowing down and passing the ball. He’s a smarter player now. Experience helps

    Lou playing like the 6 god

    3pt shooting needs improvement. I want to see more 3 celebrations! Clown on those mofos out there! Build that team spirit

  • Griffin played 38+ mpg his rookie season. Anthony Davis, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Bosh, a skinny KD, Magic, Garnett, Love, ETC… all went all out in heavy minutes with reckless abandon in their bids to establish their dominance as the next generation. No time for coddling them.

  • Griffin played 38+ mpg his rookie season. Anthony Davis, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Bosh, a skinny KD, Magic, Garnett, Love, ETC… all went all out in heavy minutes with reckless abandon in their bids to establish their dominance as the next generation. No time for coddling them.

  • You don’t think our team deserves praise for coming close to beating a projected 8th spot team, twice?

    I think so.

  • You don’t think our team deserves praise for coming close to beating a projected 8th spot team, twice?

    I think so.

  • True, EXCEPT when the one that’s training you and the TV commentator also bring it up (Worthy/Stu) it’s only with the best intentions in mid. called it last game tho.

  • True, EXCEPT when the one that’s training you and the game commentator also bring it up (Worthy/Stu) it’s only with the best intentions in mind. Called it last game tho.

  • Bruh, you keep saying no diss after every post…after awhile, it’s a diss.
    No need to diss randle when he’s stepped his game up. He struggled finishing, now he’s got that going. Give him time to knock down a set jumper. It’s barely his…seventh game?

  • Bruh, you keep saying no diss after every post…after awhile, it’s a diss.
    No need to diss randle when he’s stepped his game up. He struggled finishing, now he’s got that going. Give him time to knock down a set jumper. It’s barely his…seventh game?

  • Byron Scott 3 rings
    Kobe 5 rings
    Metta 1 ring>
    Doc rivers and pierce 2total
    #ClippersRunTheirMouth

  • Byron Scott 3 rings
    Kobe 5 rings
    Metta 1 ring>
    Doc rivers and pierce 2total
    #ClippersRunTheirMouth

  • Which player was it that said they hate the clippers because they talk and act like they’ve won something? ??
    Was it harden???

  • Which player was it that said they hate the clippers because they talk and act like they’ve won something? ??
    Was it harden???

  • Training camp injury his real rookie season. Shit happens. He csme back from that full throttle at over 38 mpg that second rookire season. No worries no hold him back being cautious. Gotta go get it if you wanna be that dude.

  • Don’t want this to come out the wrong way, but I’m not here to sugar coat sht. Put the most competitive product on the floor come regular season time while = molding the youth. Given he’s been out for a year and after hearing some of his workout routines/regimen just expected a different type of impact. Work in progress which goes for most of the roster.

  • Training camp injury his real rookie season. Shit happens. He csme back from that full throttle at over 38 mpg that second rookire season. No worries no hold him back being cautious. Gotta go get it if you wanna be that dude.

  • Don’t want this to come out the wrong way, but I’m not here to sugar coat sht. Put the most competitive product on the floor come regular season time while = molding the youth. Given he’s been out for a year and after hearing some of his workout routines/regimen just expected a different type of impact. Work in progress which goes for most of the roster.

  • Do you guys actually play ball? Or just expert from watching tv?

    Defense is in your DNA. It’s either you have it or you don’t. By just tailing your man like Swaggy ain’t defense. You have to think it plan it and go get it. Most is mental. Like football you anticipate you outguess outsmart and you outplay your assignment. It’s like playing offense but inverse. You take away others strength and favorite trait or spot. Make them uncomfortable and be aggressive dictating what offense you will allow and what to take away. Get in offense head and make them think all night because you are limiting his option and always beat him to the spot.

    Scheme can only enhance individual effort and not the end all. Mainly through spacing so offense will always feel they have to beat more than one guy any given time. Scheme also put strength in coverage funneling offense with angles and traps.

    Man… You have to play and LOVE the game to really appreciate the intricacies of defense. Basically I haven’t seen any dumb players excel in defense. Offense may be one or two primary skills or go to move and you are set . Defense is way more complex technique wise. Knowing when to body up or back off. Knowing when to force left or right. Knowing when to attack dribbler to channel to shot blocker thus they break off set play. Knowing when to allow room to shoot gap for steal. Knowing when to foul hard to disrupt rhythm or hot hand. Knowing where to get up into space of shooter after his shot release to crowd him being uncomfortable when landed. Knowing when to slip arOund a guy to play the pass. Knowing when to front a guy or move him out of the block putting your knee to back of his knees. There are so much more…

  • Suckre better not beat out METTA or else I’m gonna know something like Matt Barnes said,: it’s not Kobe Bryant it’s the front office! !!

  • Do you guys actually play ball? Or just expert from watching tv?

    Defense is in your DNA. It’s either you have it or you don’t. By just tailing your man like Swaggy ain’t defense. You have to think it plan it and go get it. Most is mental. Like football you anticipate you outguess outsmart and you outplay your assignment. It’s like playing offense but inverse. You take away others strength and favorite trait or spot. Make them uncomfortable and be aggressive dictating what offense you will allow and what to take away. Get in offense head and make them think all night because you are limiting his option and always beat him to the spot.

    Scheme can only enhance individual effort and not the end all. Mainly through spacing so offense will always feel they have to beat more than one guy any given time. Scheme also put strength in coverage funneling offense with angles and traps.

    Man… You have to play and LOVE the game to really appreciate the intricacies of defense. Basically I haven’t seen any dumb players excel in defense. Offense may be one or two primary skills or go to move and you are set . Defense is way more complex technique wise. Knowing when to body up or back off. Knowing when to force left or right. Knowing when to attack dribbler to channel to shot blocker thus they break off set play. Knowing when to allow room to shoot gap for steal. Knowing when to foul hard to disrupt rhythm or hot hand. Knowing where to get up into space of shooter after his shot release to crowd him being uncomfortable when landed. Knowing when to slip arOund a guy to play the pass. Knowing when to front a guy or move him out of the block putting your knee to back of his knees. There are so much more…

  • Suckre better not beat out METTA or else I’m gonna know something like Matt Barnes said,: it’s not Kobe Bryant it’s the front office! !!

  • IF they play together, yes. The difference tho’ is that if it’s not happening for Lou, Lou will keep trying but within the offense wheras Nick will take shots that…aren’t exactly advisable to be nice.

  • IF they play together, yes. The difference tho’ is that if it’s not happening for Lou, Lou will keep trying but within the offense wheras Nick will take shots that…aren’t exactly advisable to be nice.

  • Smh, “They competed and that’s all one can ask”

    Said it since 2013, it’s about competing night in and out. If fantasy basketball ever takes off you’ll start to see different post from others. Just like the NFL (LOL).

  • METTA should also make this team they better not use him just to practice for a month, if the front office were smart he’d be a staple and fan favorite especially if they want to so called instill defense

  • Smh, “They competed and that’s all one can ask”

    Said it since 2013, it’s about competing night in and out. If fantasy basketball ever takes off you’ll start to see different post from others. Just like the NFL (LOL).

  • METTA should also make this team they better not use him just to practice for a month, if the front office were smart he’d be a staple and fan favorite especially if they want to so called instill defense

  • Did say all-time Laker greats, this is more of a resting thing. Need to give your body ample rest which strongly applies to sleep 8+ hrs. Kobe’s wiser and sharper.

  • Did say all-time Laker greats, this is more of a resting thing. Need to give your body ample rest which strongly applies to sleep 8+ hrs. Kobe’s wiser and sharper.

  • Not just Metta. Sacre over any of the current roster would be a bad call. Much as I diss on Young, I’d still take him over SAcre simply because erratic as Young is, he’s contributing something to the team.

    Wth does Sacre contribute to the team? We don’t need a cheerleader anymore as the current crew is quite capable of encouraging/getting behind each other and celebrating their successes without him.

    As cheerleaders go, he’s even the worse at that since Ronny Turiaf could play to some degree.

  • first off Randle is still in the learning process, he needs to learn how to read the paint, he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble, he needs to learn how to box out, etc. etc. you don’t learn all that in 3 games, give him time, smh !!

  • Not just Metta. Sacre over any of the current roster would be a bad call. Much as I diss on Young, I’d still take him over SAcre simply because erratic as Young is, he’s contributing something to the team.

    Wth does Sacre contribute to the team? We don’t need a cheerleader anymore as the current crew is quite capable of encouraging/getting behind each other and celebrating their successes without him.

    As cheerleaders go, he’s even the worse at that since Ronny Turiaf could play to some degree.

  • first off Randle is still in the learning process, he needs to learn how to read the paint, he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble, he needs to learn how to box out, etc. etc. you don’t learn all that in 3 games, give him time, smh !!

  • I’m not disagreeing with all of that, but defense also depends on the rest of the team as a whole. You can isolate players defensively but you still have to communicate with, and know your teammates in order to have an effective TEAM defense.

  • I’m not disagreeing with all of that, but defense also depends on the rest of the team as a whole. You can isolate players defensively but you still have to communicate with, and know your teammates in order to have an effective TEAM defense.

  • I doubt, those mentioned above did it during the preseason because every coach is checking who is going to make the team, so they aren’t worried about the Lbj’s etc. because they know they are going to be on the team, it’s the Upshaw’s etc. that they have to look at and the only way they can do that is through min. which means less min. for the superstars. You are trying to rush the birth of a superstar, if he is indeed one. What I’m more concerned about is the coaching, the defense is weak at best and the offense is very limited, all players out at the perimeter, no slashing from anyone, very few picks from anyone to help the PG penetrate, I’m just extremely disappointed with BS, he hasn’t improved one iota from last season.!!!!

  • I doubt, those mentioned above did it during the preseason because every coach is checking who is going to make the team, so they aren’t worried about the Lbj’s etc. because they know they are going to be on the team, it’s the Upshaw’s etc. that they have to look at and the only way they can do that is through min. which means less min. for the superstars. You are trying to rush the birth of a superstar, if he is indeed one. What I’m more concerned about is the coaching, the defense is weak at best and the offense is very limited, all players out at the perimeter, no slashing from anyone, very few picks from anyone to help the PG penetrate, I’m just extremely disappointed with BS, he hasn’t improved one iota from last season.!!!!