Game Recap: Lakers Drop 3rd Straight Preseason Game With Loss To Raptors

The Los Angeles Lakers (0-2) looked to bounce back after dropping both games in Hawaii, as they returned to the mainland Thursday night to square off against the Toronto Raptors (1-1) at nearby Citizens Bank Arena.

Although they came up short in a nail-biting 117-114 loss to the Utah Jazz in overtime, Laker fans were enticed by a team that showed passion and energy along with a few dazzling plays. A fired up front court in Julius Randle and Roy Hibbert helped combat the the Jazz’s highly efficient guard play.

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With D’Angelo Russell out with a bruised glute, the Lakers would need the solid play of their big men to continue as they attempt to finish out the game strong and come away with their first preseason victory.

First Quarter:

The Lakers started off the game similarly to last game with Kobe hitting a soft jumper from just inside the three-point line, that was quickly followed by a floater from Jordan Clarkson. Kobe started to get it going with back-to-back dimes to Nick Young and Clarkson as the Lakers quickly took a 10-2 lead. After a Raptors timeout, Toronto answered back with 7-0 run of their own. Julius Randle got into foul trouble midway through the quarter giving way to Larry Nance and Robert Upshaw to see work early on. Upshaw made his presence known early with a wide open dunk on a nice pass from Lou Williams to put the Lakers up 17-13. Meanwhile, Toronto kept themselves in the game by being aggressive on the boards, recording four offensive rebounds in the the first quarter to the Lakers’ zero. Propelling the Raptos ahead of the Lkers after a three-pointer by DeMarre Carrol to put them ahead. Williams finally got the purple and gold back on the board with a jumper to end the quarter with Toronto up 30-27.

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Second Quarter

Jabari Brown looked to get out of his shooting slump by hitting a three-pointer to open up the quarter. Upshaw then flexed his wing span with a thunderous block on Cory Joseph’s attempted lay-up. Randle finally got on the board with a jumper to bring the Lakers within one 35-34. Kobe started to find his rhythm after hitting both of his free throws followed by a jumper off a clean pass from Hibbert to put the Lakers ahead by one. Terrance Ross took over the offensive workload by hitting a jumper and following it up with a three-pointer to tie it up at 40 midway through the second quarter. Toronto retook the lead with a three-pointer from Kyle Lowry on an assist from Carroll. Clarkson answered back with a three of his own that hit nothing but the bottom of the net. Nance recorded his first bucket of the game as he went right around Patrick Patterson for the easy lay-up to put as the Lakers slimmed the lead 57-53. The Raptors made the most out of their opportunities at the free-throw line going 9-10 in the second quarter as they went ahead 59-53 at halftime.

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Third Quarter

Julius Randle came out on fire to begin the second half, finishing at the rim and hitting jump shots to bring the score to 61-57. However, Lowry responded with his third three-pointer of the game. Kobe got his first bucket in the half hitting a three on a nice pass from Clarkson. Lowry started to catch fire after sinking a leaner from the three-point line. Clarkson started getting his teammates involved with a couple of delicious dimes to Roy Hibbert and Kobe to cut the lead 75-68. The Lakers started to build momentum with a spectacular play from Randle going behind-the-back before hitting Kobe with a nice pass on the wing to finish the play with a three-pointer. However Lowry would continue his dominant performance scoring the Raptors last nine points as they extended their lead 81-74. Upshaw continued to be active on the floor getting rebounds and recording his third bucket of the nice on the dish from Metta World Peace. The Raptors continued to stay ahead after a lay-up from Joseph put them ahead 86-76 to end the third quarter.

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Fourth Quarter

Lou Williams got the fourth quarter started with a three in the corner cutting Raptors’ lead to seven. Rookie Jonathan Holmes attempted to get on the board for the first time, but was blocked leading to a fastbreak for Toronto. Raptors failed to capitalize. Williams cut the lead to seven again with his 14th point. Cory Joseph counters with a three. Metta World Peace headed to the line and knocked down both shots. Bismack Biyombo hit one of two free throws extending Toronto’s lead to nine. Jabari Brown split a pair of free throws. Joseph drove the basket with ease and finished at the rim while drawing the foul. Missed the free throw. Anthony Bennett connected on a jumper putting the Raptors ahead by double digits, 96-84. Metta knocked down a couple of free throws. Holmes headed to the charity stripe and hit both. Lakers down eight. Bennett threw down a monster jam to get the lead back up to 10 for Toronto. Williams hit one of two free throws with about four minutes left to go. World Peace made his way to the basket with ease and finished with a clean layup. Joseph back to the line for two. Made the first, missed the second. Holmes grabbed his fifth rebound and scored quickly. Joseph got on the board again with another bucket. Williams countered with a layup of his own. Williams connected on another jumper improving his total to 19 points cutting the lead to four. Holmes got a huge block on Joseph, but Raptors kept possession which was finished off by Norman Powell. Joseph continued to dominate the Lakers reserves hitting another jumper. Lakers lose third straight preseason game, 105-97.

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Observation:

They competed and that’s all one can ask, being leaving it out on the floor. First half of the game was like night and day compared to the last game. Good flow and defense, but it’s clear that Lou shouldn’t be playing pg, the Lakers seriously lack consistent shooters so best to keep Lou at the 2 come regular season.

Randle had a decent game SCORING inside the paint, but he seriously lacks confidence in shooting 10-15 ft jumpers. He’d rather take it inside and end up shooting tougher/awkward shots than settle for those long jumpers. Kobe seems to be rushing his long jumpers that in turn look off. Lakers lack shooters to be able to keep pace with teams that can stretch the floor and hit those long 3’s.

  1. It took a while for Blake Griffin to make that mid-range shot as well. He’ll knock it down eventually

    1. No diss, but not comparing Randle to anyone. This literally is his first year so just hope he can stay healthy. Work in progress, which goes for everyone else too.

      1. Randle is everything most thought he was coming into the draft. He’s still a rookie so his jumper will take time to develop. I want to see him stalking the boards more. I need at least 8-10 boards a game from him consistently.

        1. He’s not gonna play 36, and I need that 8-10 anytime he plays 28 or more mpg.

        2. thats alot of rebounds to ask for from a rookie. BG is a career 9.7rebounds per game and hes a career 35.5mpg player at the 30m mark bg we get u about 7 rpg wich should be about were randle is

        3. Griffin averaged over 12 rebounds a game his rookie season. He played 38 mpg. I’d love to see Scott feature Randle like that but I doubt he has the balls to let Julius loose like that.

          Still, I need that 8-10 from the rookie every game he plays. Rebounds are all energy and effort, and if Randle wants to establish himself as that dude in the middle as the face of the Lakers, that is what he needs to produce.

        4. the reason i cant see him getting 8-10 is 1 i dont see him getting the pt and two the starting lineup wont need it.

          russ-4
          clark-4
          kobe-5
          randle-7
          hibbert-10
          thats 30 rebounds from our starting line up

          hez-2
          will-2
          young-2
          bass-5
          black 5
          thats 16 from the bench

          46 rebounds pergame would rank us about 3rd in the nba in total rebounds.

          i dont see randle needing to get 8-10. shur he will have games were he gets 8-10 but i believe 7-8 sounds more realistic for his 30ish mpg

        5. If you think Hibbert is gonna give us a consistent 10 a game you have not played attention to his career. I stand firm on those numbers. If Julius wants to be the man in the middle, he needs to go get it on the glass. That’s where a big man makes his money. And we do need that from him.

        6. the reason i believe hibbert will give us ten is because he is going to get a career high amount of pt and its a contract season

        7. I feel you on Hibbert but he’s just not built for that many boards a game. He’s never done it. And even if he does, Randle can still go get his. Desire from the young stud is what I need to see. The Brow did it. We need Randle to become transcendent like Barkley. I know it a tall order I’m pushing but it’s not impossible. My mindset is we don’t have time for lower expectations.

        8. im being realistic your looking at the high end wich i agree is possible but i dont see it happening because i only see him getting about 28-30 mpg because of bass

        9. Oh I’m being realistic. If he goes out there intent to get it and dominate, Bass and Hibbert won’t matter. He’ll get his roll on….

        10. not with 28-30mpg if he played 30 mpg he would need to get a rebound every 3.5 mins thats alot considering vet players like howard and dj get a rebound about every 3

        11. Jordan Hill averaged 7.4 rebounds per game in 13-14 in just 20.8 MPG. In a down year (as per projections expectations) he grabbed 8 per game in 26.8 MPG last season.

          I’m not sure why you have such low standards for rebounder? The cannibilzation factor you have is way off. You musta forgot Bynum, Gasol and LO? Pau with 11 per game in 37MPG, LO with 9 per game in 32 MPG & Bynum with a little over 9 per game in26.7 MPG in 10-11.

        12. a lot has to do with where his man is, He’s a PF and not all PF will play in the paint, he can’t just leave his man to go after a rebound and leave his man wide open and another will depend on where BS want’s him to be, inside or outside, you just don’t play helter-skelter, there is some organization and set plays which would take Randle away from the basket and rebounds.

        13. Stop it man. You are really making a fool of yourself with the lame arguments. Kevin Love lives on the perimeter but is one of the best all around rebounders in the league. LO often would check players on the wing but found his way to the glass. Go watch Rodman out flashing the high post on screen and rolls, switching to check a guard but still stalking the boards.

        14. contract season should not hinder hibbert the LAKERS will want to keep him and they will treat him airm he would have not gave up 2 plus mil to come to the LKAERS if he did not want to stay here.

        15. first off Randle is still in the learning process, he needs to learn how to read the paint, he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble, he needs to learn how to box out, etc. etc. you don’t learn all that in 3 games, give him time, smh !!

        16. Please, Griffin was in the same situation as Randle as a rookie and he got over 12 boards sagame. Get ouuta here with all that soft talk!

        17. Griffin was not in the same situation as Randle, it all depended on how his coach wanted to use him and since Griffin was not that gifted on offense his rookie season he was more of a defensive off the boards force to pair up with DJ, BS apparently does not want to use Randle on defense only because of his offensive abilities.

        18. I actually agree that Randle needs to get at least 8 rebounds a night but our starting guards, all three, grab about 5 each a night. It might be tough for him to do that. Griffin was the Clippers main meal ticket back then so of course he stuffed the stat sheet as a rookie.

        19. You kind of have a point. But I’d rather see him grow gradually slowly. He’s still very green.

        20. No time for coddling man. The future is now. We desperately need a couple of these young bucks to shine! If they want to become stars they need to go get it like LBJ, Melo, Wade, KD, Griffin, Cousins, The Brow, and all these other young Hogs who got they shine on right away.

          The slow play development is for middle of the road teams not back to back lotto bottom feeders like us. We’ve got to come to grips who we are right now.

        21. The flip side to that is you run the risk of breaking their spirit.

          That’s heavy responsibility and expectations for 19 and 20 year olds in their first season.

        22. They’re still recovering from Byrons camp? J/k! I love what Julius has been doing out on the court, and I Love Clarksons ?% effort on defense. Give them some time to learn to play with each other and they’ll continue to grow together. I knew there would be growing pains, so who cares about the preseason if it helps them get ready for the regular season.

        23. I doubt, those mentioned above did it during the preseason because every coach is checking who is going to make the team, so they aren’t worried about the Lbj’s etc. because they know they are going to be on the team, it’s the Upshaw’s etc. that they have to look at and the only way they can do that is through min. which means less min. for the superstars. You are trying to rush the birth of a superstar, if he is indeed one. What I’m more concerned about is the coaching, the defense is weak at best and the offense is very limited, all players out at the perimeter, no slashing from anyone, very few picks from anyone to help the PG penetrate, I’m just extremely disappointed with BS, he hasn’t improved one iota from last season.!!!!

        24. You sound like a cheer leader, we don’t need hurry up we need a little time to learn the right way and stay healthy the hurry up mode will do nothing but put them on the bench with problems.

        25. You sound like a novice. Check Byron’s post game interview. He himself alluded to fact that these guys need to hurry up and get it. There’s only three weeks left till we go live with games that count.

        26. Hey, DP. One thing to know is that rebounding is a knack a player develops on purpose, usually. Some guys try to gauge where the rebound is going by how the shot looks on its way in. Some of it nobody can explain. Ask Charles. And some part of rebounding is also just doing the fundamentals. Who am I thinking of from the Bulls that was so good?

        27. Very true. The thing is, Julius was that dude at Kentucky dominating on the glass. I just want him to stay that course and not let the NBA transition distract that natural gift.

        28. That’s not true. A player will deal with fatigue and getting use to the nightly grunge of an NBA season I hope you’re right tho.

        29. This is only the 3 rd game every one should be glad with what we have so far, by the end of this pre-season we will see a much better LAKERS team, we need to set our rotation and that is what we a trying to do now, relax and enjoy, we are getting better.

        30. i can bet hell be getting right around 36 min and i think on nights he isn’t hitting his 20pts scoring mark i think hell pick it up and reb say 11 or 12 i think at this point he is just trying to figure out how to get through the whole game and not burn out.. so i think hell kick it up a notch soon he has blake esque numbers atm but i think randle has potential too have lebron numbers! he just needs to be running the point as much as lebron.. russ/clark need too hit threes and russ needs too drive and kick better

        31. Let’s also acknowledge how much Randle’s grown in one year.

          This time last year, he looked like an energy guy who might be good one day…..

        32. Do you realize Julius Randle is 6’9? He’s also technically a rookie. Don’t get your hopes up.

        33. Height has nothing to do with it. Elton Brand was about the same size as Randle. Dennis Rodman was only 6’7″. Barkley was only 6’5″ at best. Jordan Hill is not much taller than Randle and he kills the glass. Julius can do it.

        34. All the players you named were stars though with unusual builds. Randle is still a rookie though.

          Also the average player of his height and build does not grab 10+ rebounds a game.

          I think he could become a very effective small foward/ power forward though. Maybe an elite point forward if he works hard enough.

        35. I would like to see some of our so-called shooters open it up a little bit from the outside.

        36. If they don’t establish a perimeter game, the middle is going to remain one big clog.

      2. Don’t blame metta blame Holmes . The dude made 1 play and 5 errors tonight. If you can’t play in Ontario you can’t play at staples!!

    2. Don’t think he’s hit one jumper in the 3 games yet. But Julius is looking great. Imagine how much better when he starts nailing that shot.

    3. yea but randle needs too be practicing it in game, i want too see no less than 2 per preseason game at least! also i think while blake is a dunker, i see randle having a higher ceiling for being able to put the ball in the rim from anywhere inside 8 feet just off pure power and finess.. blake uses speed/athleticism and and power and has too be within arms reach is seems..

  2. Fairly decent analysis. The major problems are lack of defense in defensive identity, no perimeter or wing containment and poor communication. Offensively everything is one on one thus no consistent go to offensive flow. Lots of work to be done over these next 5 games. Need to see some kind of team chemistry forming in the next two games. Could really use a W to boost team confidence.

    1. next game should be an ez win.

      the issues offensively and defensively all come from the mix matched rotations. it ill get better as players get cut and more consistent pt is given out

    2. THIS, they could’ve won this game if they got stops, but their too busy scrambling on defense.

        1. Plus not helping the helper and not knowing when to help. I just notice their defense started to collapse and scramble after a simple dribble penetration.

        2. that’s because BS is more concerned about his reputation of being a “boot camp drill instructor” than having his players concentrate on “execution”, funny how all these weak coaches seem to out coach BS, hmmm, I voted for the wrong coach, damn !!!!!!

        3. that’s an old excuse, it doesn’t mean you play to lose just because you are looking at different players, after all other teams are looking at different players also !!!!

      1. Things would have been different if Scott had tried to win.

        It’s hard to say that he’s trying to win when the starters don’t close the game and the final 8 minutes featured Upshaw, Holmes, Williams, JBrown, and MWP.

        1. Do you guys actually play ball? Or just expert from watching tv?

          Defense is in your DNA. It’s either you have it or you don’t. By just tailing your man like Swaggy ain’t defense. You have to think it plan it and go get it. Most is mental. Like football you anticipate you outguess outsmart and you outplay your assignment. It’s like playing offense but inverse. You take away others strength and favorite trait or spot. Make them uncomfortable and be aggressive dictating what offense you will allow and what to take away. Get in offense head and make them think all night because you are limiting his option and always beat him to the spot.

          Scheme can only enhance individual effort and not the end all. Mainly through spacing so offense will always feel they have to beat more than one guy any given time. Scheme also put strength in coverage funneling offense with angles and traps.

          Man… You have to play and LOVE the game to really appreciate the intricacies of defense. Basically I haven’t seen any dumb players excel in defense. Offense may be one or two primary skills or go to move and you are set . Defense is way more complex technique wise. Knowing when to body up or back off. Knowing when to force left or right. Knowing when to attack dribbler to channel to shot blocker thus they break off set play. Knowing when to allow room to shoot gap for steal. Knowing when to foul hard to disrupt rhythm or hot hand. Knowing where to get up into space of shooter after his shot release to crowd him being uncomfortable when landed. Knowing when to slip arOund a guy to play the pass. Knowing when to front a guy or move him out of the block putting your knee to back of his knees. There are so much more…

        2. I’m not disagreeing with all of that, but defense also depends on the rest of the team as a whole. You can isolate players defensively but you still have to communicate with, and know your teammates in order to have an effective TEAM defense.

  3. He only missed his one and only 15-17 ft jumper tonight. But he can his post J. That’s enough for now.

    1. No one talking about his FG% b/c that doesn’t tell the story. The fact that he settles for tougher shots inside the paint as opposed to hitting 10-15 ft jumpers is the issue.

        1. Pass, no diss, but another injury could shatter that type of expectation. Hopefully he stays healthy the entire season. These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).

          The game to watch will be against the GSW, we’ll see what this team has to play against elite teams. So far not seeing anything conclusive that say’s that Randle should be a starter come regular season.

        2. Disagree, Bass takes what they give him and makes the most of it which goes in making less TO’s (yes he’s a vet).

        3. Not really, he’s averaged double digit points and 5 rebounds per game against low seeded teams while playing 23 mpg. More impressed with Bass while making less TO’s, yes, Randle’s a rookie but it’s about W & L’s.

        4. Then expect a 30+ game winning season. Keeping it real, rookie starting against bigger more experience bigs who shows lapses on both ends of the floor and has yet to show a shooters touch?

          No diss to Randle, if Scott deems it worthy of him starting it’s b/c he earned but that won’t translate to a successful season given his lack of experience.

        5. Wrong, having bass start wont help us get more wins. Randle is getting better and better, there is no need to bring him slowly. Let that muthafucker start

        6. More consistent play which goes with less mistakes given Randle’s still learning the position as he goes along. That’s all really.

        7. Time will tell, with relation to having a positive impact on the floor = better season.

        8. Bruh, you keep saying no diss after every post…after awhile, it’s a diss.
          No need to diss randle when he’s stepped his game up. He struggled finishing, now he’s got that going. Give him time to knock down a set jumper. It’s barely his…seventh game?

        9. Don’t want this to come out the wrong way, but I’m not here to sugar coat sht. Put the most competitive product on the floor come regular season time while = molding the youth. Given he’s been out for a year and after hearing some of his workout routines/regimen just expected a different type of impact. Work in progress which goes for most of the roster.

        10. I understand. I dont sugarcoat anything as well. But bass isnt a major upgrade over hill, let alone randle. He can bring his experience and professionalism, thats it. He’ll get 6-12 pts and 4-6 rebs every game. A solid role player off the bench. He’s not a guy teams plan for. No scouting report on bass. No real threat.

          Randle is a guy teams will plan for and they wont have a real solution against him. He can rebound, take it up court, post, pass, and soon he’ll be able to shoot the long J. His impact can be great. A player doesn’t develop on the bench.

        11. Smh, doesn’t mean Randle won’t start down the near road (if that scenario played out). Again Scott’s brought up he’ll place the best product forward (mentioned) and tho Randle’s improved he’s still learning on the go (part of the process), however, it’s more so efficiency with a vet that = lesser TO’s aside of having a better understanding of the role required to start a game.

        12. Bass would probably have less TOs, but that’s due to their roles. Bass is no game changer. Just a regular role player.
          Randle is seen as a future star, therefore, his role is much different. He has more responsibilities as he’s capable of doing way more things than bass. He can dribble, handle, create plays, post, drive, set plays up, and eventually…shoot the long j. What can bass do for you? Well, as previously mentioned…6-12 pts and 4-6 rebs. His role is greater off the floor than on it.

          Player efficiency is completely dependent on player usage and player abilities/responsibilities. This is the reason why kobes efficiency is always down. Ex. Bass would have a player usage of 5% in a game. While randle is going to have at least double or triple that amt.

          Bass can easily go 3-4 from the field, but that isn’t going to translate to 15-20 if given the shots and time

          Scott is going to put the best product. I felt he was leaning towards bass simply because of his vet status. After these two games, there’s no way Scott is sitting randle. If randle can do that on limited mins, his 7th game?, and without a jumper…imagine what he can do in just a month from now.

          Some players need to be brought up slowly. Randle doesn’t. Russ might be the latter

        13. What? That’s ignorant. Of course players develop on the bench, unless they are really lousy. They just get their burn against our competitor’s second unit. As they get better, Scott will expand their minutes until he decides they are more ready to start than whoever is in front of them. That’s how it works.

        14. Learn the proper usage of words before you use them…
          It’s not an ignorant statement as no player has ever developed on the bench, none. They develop by getting playing time; especially high draft picks like randle and russ. Why have high draft pick talent on the bench? That’s a great way of insuring they don’t achieve their potential.

          This bring them in slow crap is only true on a championship team. But if you ended up with a high draft pick, chances are you had a lousy record. So it’s foolish to kill promising top level talent on the bench, when the other guys have proven they can’t get the job done.

          No player develops on the bench. None, they all need playing time. Especially top talent.

          Kobe is an outlier that has achieved everything by hard work and determination; as you can see, there’s not many kobes out there

          Next time, get to the point of your rebuttal before being rude and calling me ignorant. As I didn’t read the rest. I simply could care less what was said after the fact

        15. Then you truly are ignorant. Not starting is not the same as not playing. It is not like you not reading, for example. Take your own advice. Next time I won’t sugar coat it for you…:-)

        16. Raptors are projected to win 45 games placing them 6th (lower seed) of the conference.

        17. thats by bspn i dont care were they rank the teams. they had phox in the playoffs last year 🙂

        18. Other sites are projecting 42-40, 46-36 etc (lower seed) tho other have them ranked #1?! not happening.

        19. they are imporved from last season were they got 49 wins they will win around 50 this yeat

        20. 45 wins, team’s improved in the East. We’ll likely be here after the season too.

        21. IMO 4th or 5th seed.

          Heat look decent to possibly end up 4th+ and the pacers look decent. Thus, Hawks, Cavs (who may sit starters at times/per reports) Bulls(?), Heat, Raptors, Pacers (P George/Monta Ellis), Wiz etc IMO.

        22. Pacers look pretty good to fight for 6th, 7th or 8th seed. We have Lou 6th on our roster and Raptors have picked up D Carroll. Defense will determine if they can play for a top EC seed since that’s been their main issue.

        23. RE: W&L’s
          I agree… to an extent.

          Grooming Randle is more important than finding an extra 1-2 wins. Especially since a playoffs berth is a long shot.

        24. When the hell last time raptors been a low seed? Get your facts right, they’re the reigning number 1 team in scoring! !! Secondly the jazz are significantly better than us at the moment but i feel you when u say low seed however with Byron Scott as the coach we’ll take anything we can get! Lol

        25. Wth, 2015 EC playoff standings = Hawks (1), Cavs (2), Bulls (3), Raptors (4), Wiz (5), Bucks (6), Celts (7), Nets (8).

          Wiz over Raps 0-4 in the first rnd.

          Hawks improved their rotation, so have the Cavs, the Bucks have gotten KEY acquisitions and the Bulls have managed to keep their core while making some slight improvements (tho new coach). Projections made have them 5-6th seed (not top 4 seed). They did sign D Carroll which will likely help them stay as a 4th, 5th or 6th seed. We’ll bring this up later in the season since it appears to have struck a chord with you? Cool

        26. “These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).”

          Just like the Pels, Kings etc.

        27. the raptors are considered a title contender out in the east and just beat the clippers by 21 points

        28. You don’t think our team deserves praise for coming close to beating a projected 8th spot team, twice?

          I think so.

        29. Smh, “They competed and that’s all one can ask”

          Said it since 2013, it’s about competing night in and out. If fantasy basketball ever takes off you’ll start to see different post from others. Just like the NFL (LOL).

        30. First off you either blind or just lying or trolling… idk hopefully not, did u not know that Randle dominated Draymond green last preseason and that also his jumper was falling, no disrespect bro but you trippin

        31. ?!, GSW are scheduled 10/17, 10/22 of preseason games. Let’s hope they fall be these dates. Trippin, he’ll no, expected more progress offensively since he’s been out a year.

        1. Wth, talking about making his ass a starter right? Called it like last games post. Forgot about that right lol.

        2. Not saying he wasn’t given the Clipps crappy roster back then he had first dibs.

        3. No he didn’t. CP3 didn’t arrive till 11-12. Blake’s breakout rookie season was 10-11.

        4. Is our roster any better? Keep in mind this is a complete rebuild and there’s no reason to hold Randle or any of the other young bucks back. Let them have the stage and we’ll deal with their growing pains. Who knows, they my surprise us.

        5. What about injuries, is that a good reason to refrain?
          We can’t afford another player losing a year or worse due to injury.

        6. Injuries are part of sports. There is no absolute formula for preventing them. You have to leave it call on the floor every game or your not tru ing to succeed.

        7. Again you have some valid points but I can’t completely agree.

          Yes injuries are part of the game but you have to minimize risk. You have to be smart about the risks you ask these young bodies to take.

          They are still filling into their bodies. Yeah the extra time will help in their physical development but at how much risk.

          We have to manage their development wisely.

        8. Griffin played 38+ mpg his rookie season. Anthony Davis, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Bosh, a skinny KD, Magic, Garnett, Love, ETC… all went all out in heavy minutes with reckless abandon in their bids to establish their dominance as the next generation. No time for coddling them.

        9. Training camp injury his real rookie season. Shit happens. He csme back from that full throttle at over 38 mpg that second rookire season. No worries no hold him back being cautious. Gotta go get it if you wanna be that dude.

      1. Randles MO is the inside game, I’m perfectly fine with that.
        17 points for only his 3rd game, are you kidding me. That’s great.

        If it ain’t broke. …

        1. Sht ain’t flying in a shooters league, HAVE to stretch the floor to allow others the chance to shoot the long ball. Defenders don’t take Randle seriously when he’s outside the paint b/c they know that his preferred method of scoring is taking it in.

          The Kings’s game is one to watch since he’s going up against a dominant big (Cousin’s) and and athletic freak that can keep up with guards in Cauley-Stein since Randles prefered method is scoring inside the paint. Randle should start using the board more to hit jumpers as opposed to settling for awkward shots inside.

        2. I agree he needs to develop his perimeter game but what I’m saying is everything in due time. For now he should stick to what he’s good at.

        3. True, EXCEPT when the one that’s training you and the TV commentator also bring it up (Worthy/Stu) it’s only with the best intentions in mid. called it last game tho.

  4. Lou isn’t goig to be playing PG. We only have one at the moment in case you forgot. He is capable for a few minutes but not long stretches. Huertas will run the bench offense.

    1. DUH, really blockhead? Did mention the regular season aside of Russ sitting out. Not sure about Huertas now though. He was in Hawaii and decided to go to Canada to try to fix his citizenship and now he’ll likely be missing out more than half the pre-season. Need to see solid minutes from Huertas to possibly waive Kelly, MWP or an un-guaranteed contract.

        1. Damn knew you’d troll too. But preseason = experimentation time. It’s not working aside of Russ’s injury that forces Lou at the 1 since Huertas is a no show. On him too, Huertas was in Hawaii and may lose a shot in making the final cut.

        2. Lol don’t be mad. You give me grief all the time. Huertas will make the team. They would be foolish to let Lou run the point off the bench. Pretty sure they brought him in to shoot. Stop acting silly, blockhead.

        3. Lmao first I was fat and out of shape then I was clippersrunla and now I’m carrot top? You have to make up your mind Silly Dimmy.

        4. Well considering Scott hasn’t had his brain poked like you I am certain Lou is not the backup PG. Silly Dimmy.

  5. I saw that all of the “regular” 3-point guys struggled tonight. It’s odd for me to think that Kobe, Metta, Young, Williams, and all the rest would hit the rim so many times.

    Tired legs, early in training camp, and rusty shooters.

    1. No diss, F freakin excuses. They’ve averaged just over 26% from the 3pt line the last 3 games (13.3%,25.9%,39.1%). Let’s not blame Scott too, this is a business, thus handle it like one.

  6. See, I like that Randle took it inside. While yeah, it would be nice for him to shoot a 15 foot jumper now and again just to keep ’em honest, he’s really good at getting those buckets inside the paint. I’ve always appreciated the work guys who will take the punishment and take it inside.

    I abhor bigs that shoot jumpers all day and refuse to go inside unless they absolutely have to.

    TLDR version: I prefer him to work his way outward that starting outward and working his way inward.

    1. Worthy, his developer has a different view (as he brought up pre-game). It’s about keeping the defender off keel.

      1. I’m just saying, if i have to pick between the two, I prefer inside. I don’t want one over the other, just balance. Like I said, I don’t mind him shooting jumpers just to keep the defense honest. But as of right now, let him get his inside at least if that’s where he’s comfortable and work his way out as his confidence builds.

        1. Cool, but prefer a stretch 4 given today’s league. Maybe they can consider playing Randle at the 3 if things don’t pan out? He’s athletic, fast and probably the best defender out of all the younger players on the roster.

          Given the 3 position today which hosts some of the fastest players on a team it’s possible. After all they were going after Aldridge in the off season to which it may have not involved playing the 5 b/c he prefers the 4. That just shows that nothings set in stone.

  7. Over all we did much better each and every game, so we should be looking at the positive up swing, we will be ready coming the season that counts.

  8. They have the talent, they just haven’t unleashed that part of their game yet. Almost everyone on this team can shoot from deep. I wonder if they are keeping Kelly?

    What I really want to see is the fast break and the MDA “spread”. We have so much talent, if we could get that “run and gun” thing going, it would open up the middle a lot.

  • Observation:

    They competed and that’s all one can ask, first half of the game was like night and day compared to the last game. Good flow and defense, but it’s clear that Lou shouldn’t be playing pg, the Lakers seriously lack consistent shooters so best to keep Lou at the 2 come regular season (yes current injuries implied @ dmwit).

    Randle had a decent game scoring INSIDE the paint, but he seriously lacks confidence in shooting 10-15 ft jumpers. He’d rather take it inside and end up shooting tougher/awkward shots than settle for long jumpers. Kobe seems to be rushing his long jumpers that in turn look off. Lakers lack shooters to be able to keep pace with teams that can stretch the floor and hit long 3’s.

    1. It took a while for Blake Griffin to make that mid-range shot as well. He’ll knock it down eventually

      1. No diss, but not comparing Randle to anyone. This literally is his first year so just hope he can stay healthy. Work in progress, which goes for everyone else.

        1. Randle is everything most thought he was coming into the draft. He’s still a rookie so his jumper will take time to develop. I want to see him stalking the boards more. I need at least 8-10 boards a game from him consistently.

          1. He’s not gonna play 36, and I need that 8-10 anytime he plays 28 or more mpg.

          2. thats alot of rebounds to ask for from a rookie. BG is a career 9.7rebounds per game and hes a career 35.5mpg player at the 30m mark bg we get u about 7 rpg wich should be about were randle is

          3. Griffin averaged over 12 rebounds a game his rookie season. He played 38 mpg. I’d love to see Scott feature Randle like that but I doubt he has the balls to let Julius loose like that.

            Still, I need that 8-10 from the rookie every game he plays. Rebounds are all energy and effort, and if Randle wants to establish himself as that dude in the middle as the face of the Lakers, that is what he needs to produce.

          4. the reason i cant see him getting 8-10 is 1 i dont see him getting the pt and two the starting lineup wont need it.

            russ-4
            clark-4
            kobe-5
            randle-7
            hibbert-10
            thats 30 rebounds from our starting line up

            hez-2
            will-2
            young-2
            bass-5
            black 5
            thats 16 from the bench

            46 rebounds pergame would rank us about 3rd in the nba in total rebounds.

            i dont see randle needing to get 8-10. shur he will have games were he gets 8-10 but i believe 7-8 sounds more realistic for his 30ish mpg

          5. If you think Hibbert is gonna give us a consistent 10 a game you have not payed attention to his career. I stand firm on those numbers. If Julius wants to be the man in the middle, he needs to go get it on the glass. That’s where a big man makes his money. And we do need that from him.

          6. the reason i believe hibbert will give us ten is because he is going to get a career high amount of pt and its a contract season

          7. I feel you on Hibbert but he’s just not built for that many boards a game. He’s never done it. And even if he does, Randle can still go get his. Desire from the young stud is what I need to see. The Brow did it. We need Randle to become transcendent like Barkley. I know it a tall order I’m pushing but it’s not impossible. My mindset is we don’t have time for lower expectations.

          8. im being realistic your looking at the high end wich i agree is possible but i dont see it happening because i only see him getting about 28-30 mpg because of bass

          9. Oh I’m being realistic. If he goes out there intent to get it and dominate, Bass and Hibbert won’t matter. He’ll get his roll on….

          10. not with 28-30mpg if he played 30 mpg he would need to get a rebound every 3.5 mins thats alot considering vet players like howard and dj get a rebound about every 3

          11. Jordan Hill averaged 7.4 rebounds per game in 13-14 in just 20.8 MPG. In a down year (as per projections expectations) he grabbed 8 per game in 26.8 MPG last season.

            I’m not sure why you have such low standards for rebounder? The cannibilzation factor you have is way off. You musta forgot Bynum, Gasol and LO? Pau with 11 per game in 37MPG, LO with 9 per game in 32 MPG & Bynum with a little over 9 per game in26.7 MPG in 10-11.

          12. a lot has to do with where his man is, He’s a PF and not all PF will play in the paint, he can’t just leave his man to go after a rebound and leave his man wide open and another will depend on where BS want’s him to be, inside or outside, you just don’t play helter-skelter, there is some organization and set plays which would take Randle away from the basket and rebounds.

          13. Stop it man. You are really making a fool of yourself with the lame arguments. Kevin Love lives on the perimeter but is one of the best all around rebounders in the league. LO often would check players on the wing but found his way to the glass. Go watch Rodman out flashing the high post on screen and rolls, switching to check a guard but still stalking the boards.

          14. contract season should not hinder hibbert the LAKERS will want to keep him and they will treat him Fair he would have not gave up 2 plus mil to come to the LAKERS if he did not want to stay here.

          15. first off Randle is still in the learning process, he needs to learn how to read the paint, he needs to learn how to stay out of foul trouble, he needs to learn how to box out, etc. etc. you don’t learn all that in 3 games, give him time, smh !!

          16. Please, Griffin was in the same situation as Randle as a rookie and he got over 12 boards a game. Get outta here with all that soft talk!

          17. Griffin was not in the same situation as Randle, it all depended on how his coach wanted to use him and since Griffin was not that gifted on offense his rookie season he was more of a defensive off the boards force to pair up with DJ, BS apparently does not want to use Randle on defense only because of his offensive abilities.

          18. I actually agree that Randle needs to get at least 8 rebounds a night but our starting guards, all three, grab about 5 each a night. It might be tough for him to do that. Griffin was the Clippers main meal ticket back then so of course he stuffed the stat sheet as a rookie.

          19. You kind of have a point. But I’d rather see him grow gradually slowly. He’s still very green.

          20. No time for coddling man. The future is now. We desperately need a couple of these young bucks to shine! If they want to become stars they need to go get it like LBJ, Melo, Wade, KD, Griffin, Cousins, The Brow, and all these other young Hogs who got they shine on right away.

            The slow play development is for middle of the road teams not back to back lotto bottom feeders like us. We’ve got to come to grips with who we are right now.

          21. The flip side to that is you run the risk of breaking their spirit.

            That’s heavy responsibility and expectations for 19 and 20 year olds in their first season.

          22. They’re still recovering from Byrons camp? J/k! I love what Julius has been doing out on the court, and I Love Clarksons ?% effort on defense. Give them some time to learn to play with each other and they’ll continue to grow together. I knew there would be growing pains, so who cares about the preseason if it helps them get ready for the regular season.

          23. I doubt, those mentioned above did it during the preseason because every coach is checking who is going to make the team, so they aren’t worried about the Lbj’s etc. because they know they are going to be on the team, it’s the Upshaw’s etc. that they have to look at and the only way they can do that is through min. which means less min. for the superstars. You are trying to rush the birth of a superstar, if he is indeed one. What I’m more concerned about is the coaching, the defense is weak at best and the offense is very limited, all players out at the perimeter, no slashing from anyone, very few picks from anyone to help the PG penetrate, I’m just extremely disappointed with BS, he hasn’t improved one iota from last season.!!!!

          24. You sound like a cheer leader, we don’t need hurry up we need a little time to learn the right way and stay healthy the hurry up mode will do nothing but put them on the bench with problems.

          25. You sound like a novice. Check Byron’s post game interview. He himself alluded to fact that these guys need to hurry up and get it. There’s only three weeks left till we go live with games that count.

          26. Hey, DP. One thing to know is that rebounding is a knack a player develops on purpose, usually. Some guys try to gauge where the rebound is going by how the shot looks on its way in. Some of it nobody can explain. Ask Charles. And some part of rebounding is also just doing the fundamentals. Who am I thinking of from the Bulls that was so good?

          27. Very true. The thing is, Julius was that dude at Kentucky dominating on the glass. I just want him to stay that course and not let the NBA transition distract that natural gift.

          28. That’s not entirely true. A player will deal with fatigue and getting use to the nightly grind of an NBA season I hope you’re right tho.

          29. That’s not entirely true. A player will deal with fatigue and getting use to the nightly grind of an NBA season I hope you’re right tho.

          30. This is only the 3 rd game every one should be glad with what we have so far, by the end of this pre-season we will see a much better LAKERS team, we need to set our rotation and that is what we a trying to do now, relax and enjoy, we are getting better.

          31. i can bet hell be getting right around 36 min and i think on nights he isn’t hitting his 20pts scoring mark i think hell pick it up and reb say 11 or 12 i think at this point he is just trying to figure out how to get through the whole game and not burn out.. so i think hell kick it up a notch soon he has blake esque numbers atm but i think randle has potential too have lebron numbers! he just needs to be running the point as much as lebron.. russ/clark need too hit threes and russ needs too drive and kick better

          32. Let’s also acknowledge how much Randle’s grown in one year.

            This time last year, he looked like an energy guy who might be good one day…..

            And think of how good he’ll be next season after he fully understands his place in the NBA and has 100% control of his talents.

          33. Do you realize Julius Randle is 6’9? He’s also technically a rookie. Don’t get your hopes up.

          34. Height has nothing to do with it. Elton Brand was about the same size as Randle. Dennis Rodman was only 6’7″. Barkley was only 6’5″ at best. Jordan Hill is not much taller than Randle and he kills the glass. Julius can do it.

          35. All the players you named were stars though with unusual builds. Randle is still a rookie though.

            Also the average player of his height and build does not grab 10+ rebounds a game.

            I think he could become a very effective small foward/ power forward though. Maybe an elite point forward if he works hard enough.

          36. I would like to see some of our so-called shooters open it up a little bit from the outside.

          37. If they don’t establish a perimeter game, the middle is going to remain one big clog.

        2. Don’t blame metta blame Holmes . The dude made 1 play and 5 errors tonight. If you can’t play in Ontario you can’t play at staples!!

      2. Don’t think he’s hit one jumper in the 3 games yet. But Julius is looking great. Imagine how much better when he starts nailing that shot.

      3. yea but randle needs too be practicing it in game, i want too see no less than 2 per preseason game at least! also i think while blake is a dunker, i see randle having a higher ceiling for being able to put the ball in the rim from anywhere inside 8 feet just off pure power and finess.. blake uses speed/athleticism and and power and has too be within arms reach is seems..

    2. Fairly decent analysis. The major problems are lack of defense in defensive identity, no perimeter or wing containment and poor communication. Offensively everything is one on one thus no consistent go to offensive flow. Lots of work to be done over these next 5 games. Need to see some kind of team chemistry forming in the next two games. Could really use a W to boost team confidence.

      1. next game should be an ez win.

        the issues offensively and defensively all come from the mix matched rotations. it ill get better as players get cut and more consistent pt is given out

      2. THIS, they could’ve won this game if they got stops, but their too busy scrambling on defense.

          1. Plus not helping the helper and not knowing when to help. I just notice their defense started to collapse and scramble after a simple dribble penetration.

          2. that’s because BS is more concerned about his reputation of being a “boot camp drill instructor” than having his players concentrate on “execution”, funny how all these weak coaches seem to out coach BS, hmmm, I voted for the wrong coach, damn !!!!!!

          3. that’s an old excuse, it doesn’t mean you play to lose just because you are looking at different players, after all other teams are looking at different players also !!!!

        1. Things would have been different if Scott had tried to win.

          It’s hard to say that he’s trying to win when the starters don’t close the game and the final 8 minutes featured Upshaw, Holmes, Williams, JBrown, and MWP.

          1. Do you guys actually play ball? Or just expert from watching tv?

            Defense is in your DNA. It’s either you have it or you don’t. By just tailing your man like Swaggy ain’t defense. You have to think it plan it and go get it. Most is mental. Like football you anticipate you outguess outsmart and you outplay your assignment. It’s like playing offense but inverse. You take away others strength and favorite trait or spot. Make them uncomfortable and be aggressive dictating what offense you will allow and what to take away. Get in offense head and make them think all night because you are limiting his option and always beat him to the spot.

            Scheme can only enhance individual effort and not the end all. Mainly through spacing so offense will always feel they have to beat more than one guy any given time. Scheme also put strength in coverage funneling offense with angles and traps.

            Man… You have to play and LOVE the game to really appreciate the intricacies of defense. Basically I haven’t seen any dumb players excel in defense. Offense may be one or two primary skills or go to move and you are set . Defense is way more complex technique wise. Knowing when to body up or back off. Knowing when to force left or right. Knowing when to attack dribbler to channel to shot blocker thus they break off set play. Knowing when to allow room to shoot gap for steal. Knowing when to foul hard to disrupt rhythm or hot hand. Knowing where to get up into space of shooter after his shot release to crowd him being uncomfortable when landed. Knowing when to slip arOund a guy to play the pass. Knowing when to front a guy or move him out of the block putting your knee to back of his knees. There are so much more…

          2. I’m not disagreeing with all of that, but defense also depends on the rest of the team as a whole. You can isolate players defensively but you still have to communicate with, and know your teammates in order to have an effective TEAM defense.

    3. He only missed his one and only 15-17 ft jumper tonight. But he can his post J. That’s enough for now.

      1. No one talking about his FG% b/c that doesn’t tell the story. The fact that he settles for tougher shots inside the paint as opposed to hitting 10-15 ft jumpers is the issue.

          1. Pass, no diss, but another injury could shatter that type of expectation. Hopefully he stays healthy the entire season. These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).

            The game to watch will be against the GSW, we’ll see what this team has to play against elite teams. So far not seeing anything conclusive that say’s that Randle should be a starter come regular season.

          2. Disagree, Bass takes what they give him and makes the most of it which goes in making less TO’s (yes he’s a vet).

          3. Not really, he’s averaged double digit points and 5 rebounds per game against low seeded teams while playing 23 mpg. More impressed with Bass while making less TO’s, yes, Randle’s a rookie but it’s about W & L’s.

          4. Then expect a 30+ game winning season. Keeping it real, rookie starting against bigger more experienced bigs while showing lapses on both ends of the floor and has yet to show a shooters touch (1st year yes)?

            No diss to Randle, if Scott deems it worthy of him starting it’s b/c he earned it but that won’t translate to a successful season given his lack of experience.

          5. Wrong, having bass start wont help us get more wins. Randle is getting better and better, there is no need to bring him slowly. Let that muthafucker start

          6. More consistent play which goes with less mistakes given Randle’s still learning the position as he goes along. That’s all really.

          7. Time will tell, with relation to having a positive impact on the floor = better season.

          8. Bruh, you keep saying no diss after every post…after awhile, it’s a diss.
            No need to diss randle when he’s stepped his game up. He struggled finishing, now he’s got that going. Give him time to knock down a set jumper. It’s barely his…seventh game?

          9. Don’t want this to come out the wrong way, but I’m not here to sugar coat sht. Put the most competitive product on the floor come regular season time while = molding the youth. Given he’s been out for a year and after hearing some of his workout routines/regimen just expected a different type of impact. Work in progress which goes for most of the roster.

          10. I understand. I dont sugarcoat anything as well. But bass isnt a major upgrade over hill, let alone randle. He can bring his experience and professionalism, thats it. He’ll get 6-12 pts and 4-6 rebs every game. A solid role player off the bench. He’s not a guy teams plan for. No scouting report on bass. No real threat.

            Randle is a guy teams will plan for and they wont have a real solution against him. He can rebound, take it up court, post, pass, and soon he’ll be able to shoot the long J. His impact can be great. A player doesn’t develop on the bench.

          11. Smh, doesn’t mean Randle won’t start down the near road (if that scenario played out). Again Scott’s brought up he’ll place the best product forward (mentioned) and tho Randle’s improved he’s still learning on the go (part of the process), however, it’s more so efficiency with a vet that = lesser TO’s aside of having a better understanding of the role required to start a game.

          12. Bass would probably have less TOs, but that’s due to their roles. Bass is no game changer. Just a regular role player.
            Randle is seen as a future star, therefore, his role is much different. He has more responsibilities as he’s capable of doing way more things than bass. He can dribble, handle, create plays, post, drive, set plays up, and eventually…shoot the long j. What can bass do for you? Well, as previously mentioned…6-12 pts and 4-6 rebs. His role is greater off the floor than on it.

            Player efficiency is completely dependent on player usage and player abilities/responsibilities. This is the reason why kobes efficiency is always down. Ex. Bass would have a player usage of 5% in a game. While randle is going to have at least double or triple that amt.

            Bass can easily go 3-4 from the field, but that isn’t going to translate to 15-20 if given the shots and time

            Scott is going to put the best product. I felt he was leaning towards bass simply because of his vet status. After these two games, there’s no way Scott is sitting randle. If randle can do that on limited mins, his 7th game?, and without a jumper…imagine what he can do in just a month from now.

            Some players need to be brought up slowly. Randle doesn’t. Russ might be the latter

          13. What? That’s ignorant. Of course players develop on the bench, unless they are really lousy. They just get their burn against our competitor’s second unit. As they get better, Scott will expand their minutes until he decides they are more ready to start than whoever is in front of them. That’s how it works.

          14. Learn the proper usage of words before you use them…
            It’s not an ignorant statement as no player has ever developed on the bench, none. They develop by getting playing time; especially high draft picks like randle and russ. Why have high draft pick talent on the bench? That’s a great way of insuring they don’t achieve their potential.

            This bring them in slow crap is only true on a championship team. But if you ended up with a high draft pick, chances are you had a lousy record. So it’s foolish to kill promising top level talent on the bench, when the other guys have proven they can’t get the job done.

            No player develops on the bench. None, they all need playing time. Especially top talent.

            Kobe is an outlier that has achieved everything by hard work and determination; as you can see, there’s not many kobes out there

            Next time, get to the point of your rebuttal before being rude and calling me ignorant. As I didn’t read the rest. I simply could care less what was said after the fact

          15. Then you truly are ignorant. Not starting is not the same as not playing. It is not like you not reading, for example. Take your own advice. Next time I won’t sugar coat it for you…:-)

          16. Raptors are projected to win 45 games placing them 6th (lower seed) of the conference.

          17. thats by bspn i dont care were they rank the teams. they had phox in the playoffs last year 🙂

          18. Other sites are projecting 42-40, 46-36 etc (lower seed) tho other have them ranked #1?! not happening.

          19. they are imporved from last season were they got 49 wins they will win around 50 this yeat

          20. 45 wins, team’s improved in the East. We’ll likely be here after the season too.

          21. IMO 4th or 5th seed.

            Heat look decent to possibly end up 4th+ and the pacers look decent. Thus, Hawks, Cavs (who may sit starters at times/per reports) Bulls(?), Heat, Raptors, Pacers (P George/Monta Ellis), Wiz etc IMO.

          22. Pacers look pretty good to fight for 6th, 7th or 8th seed. We have Lou 6th on our roster and Raptors have picked up D Carroll. Defense will determine if they can play for a top EC seed since that’s been their main issue.

          23. RE: W&L’s
            I agree… to an extent.

            Grooming Randle is more important than finding an extra 1-2 wins. Especially since a playoffs berth is a long shot.

          24. When the hell last time raptors been a low seed? Get your facts right, they’re the reigning number 1 team in scoring! !! Secondly the jazz are significantly better than us at the moment but i feel you when u say low seed however with Byron Scott as the coach we’ll take anything we can get! Lol

          25. Wth, 2015 EC playoff standings = Hawks (1), Cavs (2), Bulls (3), Raptors (4), Wiz (5), Bucks (6), Celts (7), Nets (8).

            Wiz over Raps 0-4 in the first rnd.

            Hawks improved their rotation, so have the Cavs, the Bucks have gotten KEY acquisitions and the Bulls have managed to keep their core while making some slight improvements (tho new coach). Projections made have them 5-6th seed (not top 4 seed). They did sign D Carroll which will likely help them stay as a 4th, 5th or 6th seed. We’ll bring this up later in the season since it appears to have struck a chord with you? Cool

          26. “These team’s the Lakers have played so far are low seeded teams at best (playoffs).”

            Just like the Pels, Kings etc.

          27. the raptors are considered a title contender out in the east and just beat the clippers by 21 points

          28. You don’t think our team deserves praise for coming close to beating a projected 8th spot team, twice?

            I think so.

          29. Smh, “They competed and that’s all one can ask”

            Said it since 2013, it’s about competing night in and out. If fantasy basketball ever takes off you’ll start to see different post from others. Just like the NFL (LOL).

          30. First off you either blind or just lying or trolling… idk hopefully not, did u not know that Randle dominated Draymond green last preseason and that also his jumper was falling, no disrespect bro but you trippin

          31. ?!, GSW are scheduled 10/17, 10/22 of preseason games. Let’s hope they fall be these dates. Trippin, he’ll no, expected more progress offensively since he’s been out a year.

          1. Wth, talking about making his ass a starter right? Called it like last game’s post. Forgot about that right lol.

          2. Not saying he wasn’t given the Clipps crappy roster back then he had first dibs.

          3. his rookie season had cp3 on it….

            never mind i believe that was his second season

          4. No he didn’t. CP3 didn’t arrive till 11-12. Blake’s breakout rookie season was 10-11.

          5. Is our roster any better? Keep in mind this is a complete rebuild and there’s no reason to hold Randle or any of the other young bucks back. Let them have the stage and we’ll deal with their growing pains. Who knows, they my surprise us.

          6. What about injuries, is that a good reason to refrain?
            We can’t afford another player losing a year or worse due to injury.

          7. Injuries are part of sports. There is no absolute formula for preventing them. You have to leave it all on the floor every game or your not trying to succeed.

            Do you think Kobe was cautious as a youngster? That thought does not exist in the mind of a young stud.

          8. Again you have some valid points but I can’t completely agree.

            Yes injuries are part of the game but you have to minimize risk. You have to be smart about the risks you ask these young bodies to take.

            They are still filling into their bodies. Yeah the extra time will help in their physical development but at how much risk.

            We have to manage their development wisely.

          9. Griffin played 38+ mpg his rookie season. Anthony Davis, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Bosh, a skinny KD, Magic, Garnett, Love, ETC… all went all out in heavy minutes with reckless abandon in their bids to establish their dominance as the next generation. No time for coddling them.

          10. Training camp injury his real rookie season. Shit happens. He csme back from that full throttle at over 38 mpg that second rookire season. No worries no hold him back being cautious. Gotta go get it if you wanna be that dude.

        1. Randles MO is the inside game, I’m perfectly fine with that.
          17 points for only his 3rd game, are you kidding me. That’s great.

          If it ain’t broke. …

          1. Sht ain’t flying in a shooters league, HAVE to stretch the floor to allow others the chance to shoot the long ball. Defenders don’t take Randle seriously when he’s outside the paint b/c they know that his preferred method of scoring is taking it in.

            The Kings’s game is one to watch since he’s going up against a dominant big (Cousin’s) and and athletic freak that can keep up with guards in Cauley-Stein since Randles prefered method is scoring inside the paint. Randle should start using the board more to hit jumpers as opposed to settling for awkward shots inside.

          2. I agree he needs to develop his perimeter game but what I’m saying is everything in due time. For now he should stick to what he’s good at.

          3. True, EXCEPT when the one that’s training you and the game commentator also bring it up (Worthy/Stu) it’s only with the best intentions in mind. Called it last game tho.

    4. Lou isn’t going to be playing PG. We only have one at the moment in case you forgot. He is capable for a few minutes but not long stretches. Huertas will run the bench offense.

      1. DUH, really blockhead? Did mention in the regular season aside of Russ sitting out. Not sure about Huertas now though. He was in Hawaii and decided to go to Canada to try to fix his citizenship and now he’ll likely be missing out more than half the pre-season. Need to see solid minutes from Huertas to possibly waive Kelly, MWP or an un-guaranteed contract.

          1. Damn knew you’d troll too. But preseason = experimentation time. It’s not working aside of Russ’s injury that forces Lou at the 1 since Huertas is a no show. On him too, Huertas was in Hawaii and may lose a shot in making the final cut.

          2. Lol don’t be mad. You give me grief all the time. Huertas will make the team. They would be foolish to let Lou run the point off the bench. Pretty sure they brought him in to shoot. Stop acting silly, blockhead.

          3. Lmao first I was fat and out of shape then I was clippersrunla and now I’m carrot top? You have to make up your mind Silly Dimmy.

          4. Well considering Scott hasn’t had his brain poked like you I am certain Lou is not the backup PG. Silly Dimmy.

    5. I saw that all of the “regular” 3-point guys struggled tonight. It’s odd for me to think that Kobe, Metta, Young, Williams, and all the rest would hit the rim so many times.

      Tired legs, early in training camp, and rusty shooters.

      And, while Kobe is Kobe, he’s different…. He’s much more efficient, a better team player, and it’s obvious that he is deliberately trying to help mentor the young guys (especially Randle). only time will tell if Kobe reverts back to the Mamba. <- I doubt it.

      1. No diss, F freakin excuses. They’ve averaged just over 26% from the 3pt line the last 3 games (13.3%,25.9%,39.1%). Let’s not blame Scott too, business, thus produce.

    6. See, I like that Randle took it inside. While yeah, it would be nice for him to shoot a 15 foot jumper now and again just to keep ’em honest, he’s really good at getting those buckets inside the paint. I’ve always appreciated the work guys who will take the punishment and take it inside.

      I abhor bigs that shoot jumpers all day and refuse to go inside unless they absolutely have to.

      TLDR version: I prefer him to work his way outward that starting outward and working his way inward.

      1. Worthy, his developer has a different view (as he brought up pre-game). It’s about keeping the defender off keel.

        1. I’m just saying, if i have to pick between the two, I prefer inside. I don’t want one over the other, just balance. Like I said, I don’t mind him shooting jumpers just to keep the defense honest. But as of right now, let him get his inside at least if that’s where he’s comfortable and work his way out as his confidence builds.

          1. Cool, but prefer a stretch 4 given today’s league. Maybe they can consider playing Randle at the 3 if things don’t pan out? He’s athletic, fast and probably the best defender out of all the younger players on the roster.

            Given the 3 position today which hosts some of the fastest players on a team it’s possible. After all they were going after Aldridge in the off season to which it may have not involved playing the 5 b/c he prefers the 4. That just shows that nothings set in stone.

    7. Over all we did much better each and every game, so we should be looking at the positive up swing, we will be ready coming the season that counts.

    8. They have the talent, they just haven’t unleashed that part of their game yet. Almost everyone on this team can shoot from deep. I wonder if they are keeping Kelly?

      What I really want to see is the fast break and the MDA “spread”. We have so much talent, if we could get that “run and gun” thing going, it would open up the middle a lot.

    1. the team looks good when u look at it bass, russ, black, and huertez did not play all four are projected to be in our 10 man roation and we are compeating with a fully healthy fully playing raptors who could be a top 3 seed in the east

      1. Don’t forget that the Lakers had training today! !!!

        Game Tuesday, flight yesterday, training this morning plus a game today!

        That’s allot of work on a body.

        1. Don’t think the All-time Lakers had any issues with playing back to back games back in the day. Don’t want to hear excuses more so want to see progress.

          1. Did say all-time Laker greats, this is more of a resting thing. Need to give your body ample rest which strongly applies to sleep 8+ hrs. Kobe’s wiser and sharper.

    1. the team looks good when u look at it bass, russ, black, and huertez did not play all four are projected to be in our 10 man roation and we are compeating with a fully healthy fully playing raptors who could be a top 3 seed in the east

      1. Don’t forget that the Lakers had training today! !!!

        Game Tuesday, flight yesterday, training this morning plus a game today!

        That’s allot of work on a body.

        1. Don’t think the All-time Lakers had any issues with playing back to back games back in the day. Don’t want to hear excuses more so want to see progress.

          1. Did say all-time Laker greats, this is more of a resting thing. Need to give your body ample rest which strongly applies to sleep 8+ hrs. Kobe’s wiser and sharper.

  • Lakers offense will be there, they just need to play solid D and get stops when needed. Overall i like what i saw, but i’d like to see more of Nance Jr the kid is super athletic and brings energy.

  • Lakers offense will be there, they just need to play solid D and get stops when needed. Overall i like what i saw, but i’d like to see more of Nance Jr the kid is super athletic and brings energy.

  • It’s clear to me.

    From this 19-man squad, we need to cut Kelly, Sacre and Jabari Brown. We need to send Nick Young to Philly or any team that’s willing to part with a draft pick.

    Kelly, Sacre, Jabari and Nick Young must leave. We’re set with our 15.

    1. Nah, I’d consider a 14 man roster come deadline. Final roster would likely involve cutting Holmes, Frazier, Sacre, Huertas possibly (no show, on him), and Kelly. Looking at the depth chart for the team they could do away with Huertas if he ever auditions/fails to impress.

      That make Lou the 3rd stringer or they can pick someone else up (pg) with a 14 man roster. SG’s would be Lou and J Brown since Kobe be at the 3 along with Young and A Brown. A total of nine players at the 4 and 5 currently.

      1. bro highly doubt J Brown makes the squad after his shoddy performances so far (in the preseason). don’t think that kid is good enough. Would rather invest in Holmes and Frazier – two guys we’ve signed to multi-year deals.

        1. He makes the cut, he can shoot it aside of his athleticism. The issue IMO is his lack of concentration given his temper. He seems to play mad and tends to force things at times.

          He’s played hard headed this pre-season and needs to control his temper. But he can impact the team more so than the other players mentioned which goes for Kelly too.

  • It’s clear to me.

    From this 19-man squad, we need to cut Kelly, Sacre and Jabari Brown. We need to send Nick Young to Philly or any team that’s willing to part with a draft pick.

    Kelly, Sacre, Jabari and Nick Young must leave. We’re set with our 15.

    1. Nah, I’d consider a 14 man roster come deadline. Final roster would likely involve cutting Holmes, Frazier, Sacre, Huertas possibly (no show, on him), and Kelly. Looking at the depth chart for the team they could do away with Huertas if he ever auditions/fails to impress.

      That make Lou the 3rd stringer or they can pick someone else up (pg) with a 14 man roster. SG’s would be Lou and J Brown since Kobe be at the 3 along with Young and A Brown. A total of nine players at the 4 and 5 currently.

      1. bro highly doubt J Brown makes the squad after his shoddy performances so far (in the preseason). don’t think that kid is good enough. Would rather invest in Holmes and Frazier – two guys we’ve signed to multi-year deals.

        1. He makes the cut, he can shoot it aside of his athleticism. The issue IMO is his lack of concentration given his temper. He seems to play mad and tends to force things at times.

          He’s played hard headed this pre-season and needs to control his temper. But he can impact the team more so than the other players mentioned which goes for Kelly too.

  • We’re set. Goodbye to Sacre, Kelly, Jabari and Nick Young (trade for draft pick).

    The pecking order (IMO):

    Hibbert / Upshaw / Black
    Randle Bass / Larry Nance
    Kobe / MWP / Holmes
    Clarkson / A Brown / Frazier
    Russell / Lou / Huertas

    1. You’d really keep Johnathan Holmes on the roster over Nick Young? Wow. I agree with cutting the rest of those guys though.

      1. at least Holmes brings defensive versatility, athleticism and fresh legs. Young is a good pro. But we already have enough bench scoring. And besides, Young is a career 40% shooter, far toooo inefficient for my liking. I rather invest in young guys like Frazier and Holmes.

          1. not really. both of them will make eachother better because it is harder to double team them with the other around

          2. IF they play together, yes. The difference tho’ is that if it’s not happening for Lou, Lou will keep trying but within the offense wheras Nick will take shots that…aren’t exactly advisable to be nice.

        1. This team doesn’t have enough bench scoring at all. You saw how lou plays w/o another scorer on the floor. Nick and Lou is a good tandem

          1. even more so if both keep making the proper passes the way they have been so far this preseason

          2. Lou is better as a straight scorer , which is what he will back to when Huertas steps in.

          3. you might be right there. but we need to see what Huertas can do before coming to that conclusion. If the second unit of Upshaw-Bass-MWP-Lou-Huertas can put up decent points, Swaggy can be sacrificed for a draft pick. You need to realize that we don’t have any draft picks for next year. We need some takers.

          4. but we’re not going to suck that bad. its very clear that Mavs, Nuggets, T’Wolves and Blazers suck harder (in the West alone). We actually have a legit shot at the 8th seed.

          5. no i agree but rember the cavs got bennett when they had the 10th worst record in the league. if we miss the playoffs there is allways a chance

          6. yea.. but u know how lucky cavs got that year? they had like a 5% chance to get the top pick and they got lucky. stuff like that doesn’t happen every year. i highly doubt we’ll have a first round pick next year.

          7. true but it is also the lakers so the league might throw us a bone like they did for the clippers and cavs

          8. Yep and its ours to take, if we don’t make it I’m blaming the coaching staff and Russell slow development as starter

          9. those will be fair excuses. i’m pinning my hopes on Randle and Clarkson.

          10. Lou is going to be overwhelmed in that lineup because the defense is going to focus on him but I would like to see that lineup play

          11. exactly we need to see what Huertas can do in a game situation. because right now Lou is handling the ball too much which I DON’T LIKE!

          12. Huertas will make the team, bro. No doubt. He’s a very very good player. Can be a KEY player for the team.

          13. i don’t know if he can shoot the ball but we need somebody in the second unit to handle the ball. clearly, lou is not cut out for that task. we need a proper PG in the second unit.

        2. As of now, Young IS the 3-point specialist. And in some situations, if we told him to go out ISO everyone and score he would thrive.

          I think we’re seeing him struggle in the first structured offense he’s played in since BEFORE we traded the 76’ers for him.

          1. RE: Young Clippers
            3 seasons ago. Since then, he was told to be a hero and be entertaining which sadly feeds into the Swaggy Ego.

          2. at the moment, yes. but in Frazier and ABrown, we have to young marksmen waiting to be groomed. Also, Holmes is a good shooter.

          3. Pretty much. D’Antoni was 7 seconds or less/run down the court and chuck it.

          1. fg% is a horrid way to look at a player. nick young shoots mostly threes. so his fg% looks worse then it is

          2. He’s 42 percent for his career, and that’s only because nearly half of the shots he has taken in his career are 3s.

          3. i’m sorry bro but if you think Young is “a great scorer”, your basketball knowledge is very limited. and i hate to be arguing with a fellow laker fan.

    2. I’d take Jabari Brown over Frazier at this point. Both can shoot but Jabari has a better dribble drive game. And keep Young over Huertas, we haven’t even seem him play. Just rotate Clarkson to PG when Russell sits and play a 3-4 guard rotation. We should never have the entire 2nd string out there at once anyways. Black as primary backup to Hibbert til Upshaw develops some more. If Sacre is kept over either of them we should riot!

          1. thats because the other hopefuls haven’t got enough playing time. Kelly hasn’t shot a single 3-pointer. he hasn’t spaced the floor. he’s driven to the basket a few times but that’s not his strength. he’s supposed to be a stretch 4 and i’m sorry he’s just not a good enough shooter.

          2. disagree hes been playing for the team so far and his defense has been really nice so far.

          3. Difference is we know what Kelly is. A below average player with a low ceiling. Other prospects have potential. Holmes plays hard, has quick feet and is known for his jumper. Just on hustle alone he is a better prospect than kelly.

          4. i dont disagree but imo kelly has looked solid and is making about 1.6m this season his contract could be throw into a trade later in the year for an extra 2m in value which is why unless hes out played i keep him

          5. I wouldn’t miss out on a prospect for a potential trade value that may never materialize. Worthy spoke very highly of Holmes. And his defense on limited minutes opened my eyes a bit.

        1. Seriously, Upshaw is a 7 foot athlete with untapped potential. Black is undersized but has a high motor and understands angles. Sacre is 7 foot cheerleader… I’ll riot

  • We’re set. Goodbye to Sacre, Kelly, Jabari and Nick Young (trade for draft pick).

    The pecking order (IMO):

    Hibbert / Upshaw / Black
    Randle Bass / Larry Nance
    Kobe / MWP / Holmes
    Clarkson / A Brown / Frazier
    Russell / Lou / Huertas

    1. You’d really keep Johnathan Holmes on the roster over Nick Young? Wow. I agree with cutting the rest of those guys though.

      1. at least Holmes brings defensive versatility, athleticism and fresh legs. Young is a good pro. But we already have enough bench scoring. And besides, Young is a career 40% shooter, far toooo inefficient for my liking. I rather invest in young guys like Frazier and Holmes.

          1. not really. both of them will make eachother better because it is harder to double team them with the other around

          2. IF they play together, yes. The difference tho’ is that if it’s not happening for Lou, Lou will keep trying but within the offense wheras Nick will take shots that…aren’t exactly advisable to be nice.

        1. This team doesn’t have enough bench scoring at all. You saw how lou plays w/o another scorer on the floor. Nick and Lou is a good tandem

          1. even more so if both keep making the proper passes the way they have been so far this preseason

          2. Lou is better as a straight scorer , which is what he will back to when Huertas steps in.

          3. you might be right there. but we need to see what Huertas can do before coming to that conclusion. If the second unit of Upshaw-Bass-MWP-Lou-Huertas can put up decent points, Swaggy can be sacrificed for a draft pick. You need to realize that we don’t have any draft picks for next year. We need some takers.

          4. you might be right there. but we need to see what Huertas can do before coming to that conclusion. If the second unit of Upshaw-Bass-MWP-Lou-Huertas can put up decent points, Swaggy can be sacrificed for a draft pick. You need to realize that we don’t have any draft picks for next year. We need some takers.

          5. but we’re not going to suck that bad. its very clear that Mavs, Nuggets, T’Wolves and Blazers suck harder (in the West alone). We actually have a legit shot at the 8th seed.

          6. no i agree but rember the cavs got bennett when they had the 10th worst record in the league. if we miss the playoffs there is allways a chance

          7. yea.. but u know how lucky cavs got that year? they had like a 5% chance to get the top pick and they got lucky. stuff like that doesn’t happen every year. i highly doubt we’ll have a first round pick next year.

          8. true but it is also the lakers so the league might throw us a bone like they did for the clippers and cavs

          9. Yep and its ours to take, if we don’t make it I’m blaming the coaching staff and Russell slow development as starter

          10. those will be fair excuses. i’m pinning my hopes on Randle and Clarkson.

          11. Lou is going to be overwhelmed in that lineup because the defense is going to focus on him but I would like to see that lineup play

          12. exactly we need to see what Huertas can do in a game situation. because right now Lou is handling the ball too much which I DON’T LIKE!

          13. Huertas will make the team, bro. No doubt. He’s a very very good player. Can be a KEY player for the team.

          14. i don’t know if he can shoot the ball but we need somebody in the second unit to handle the ball. clearly, lou is not cut out for that task. we need a proper PG in the second unit.

        2. As of now, Young IS the 3-point specialist. And in some situations, if we told him to go out ISO everyone and score he would thrive.

          I think we’re seeing him struggle in the first structured offense he’s played in since BEFORE we traded the 76’ers for him.

          1. RE: Young Clippers
            3 seasons ago. Since then, he was told to be a hero and be entertaining which sadly feeds into the Swaggy Ego.

          2. at the moment, yes. but in Frazier and ABrown, we have to young marksmen waiting to be groomed. Also, Holmes is a good shooter.

          3. Pretty much. D’Antoni was 7 seconds or less/run down the court and chuck it.

          1. fg% is a horrid way to look at a player. nick young shoots mostly threes. so his fg% looks worse then it is

          2. He’s 42 percent for his career, and that’s only because nearly half of the shots he has taken in his career are 3s.

          3. i’m sorry bro but if you think Young is “a great scorer”, your basketball knowledge is very limited. and i hate to be arguing with a fellow laker fan.

    2. I’d take Jabari Brown over Frazier at this point. Both can shoot but Jabari has a better dribble drive game. And keep Young over Huertas, we haven’t even seem him play. Just rotate Clarkson to PG when Russell sits and play a 3-4 guard rotation. We should never have the entire 2nd string out there at once anyways. Black as primary backup to Hibbert til Upshaw develops some more. If Sacre is kept over either of them we should riot!

          1. thats because the other hopefuls haven’t got enough playing time. Kelly hasn’t shot a single 3-pointer. he hasn’t spaced the floor. he’s driven to the basket a few times but that’s not his strength. he’s supposed to be a stretch 4 and i’m sorry he’s just not a good enough shooter.

          2. thats because the other hopefuls haven’t got enough playing time. Kelly hasn’t shot a single 3-pointer. he hasn’t spaced the floor. he’s driven to the basket a few times but that’s not his strength. he’s supposed to be a stretch 4 and i’m sorry he’s just not a good enough shooter.

          3. disagree hes been playing for the team so far and his defense has been really nice so far.

          4. Difference is we know what Kelly is. A below average player with a low ceiling. Other prospects have potential. Holmes plays hard, has quick feet and is known for his jumper. Just on hustle alone he is a better prospect than kelly.

          5. i dont disagree but imo kelly has looked solid and is making about 1.6m this season his contract could be throw into a trade later in the year for an extra 2m in value which is why unless hes out played i keep him

          6. I wouldn’t miss out on a prospect for a potential trade value that may never materialize. Worthy spoke very highly of Holmes. And his defense on limited minutes opened my eyes a bit.

          7. i dont disagree but imo kelly has looked solid and is making about 1.6m this season his contract could be throw into a trade later in the year for an extra 2m in value which is why unless hes out played i keep him

        1. Seriously, Upshaw is a 7 foot athlete with untapped potential. Black is undersized but has a high motor and understands angles. Sacre is 7 foot cheerleader… I’ll riot

        2. Seriously, Upshaw is a 7 foot athlete with untapped potential. Black is undersized but has a high motor and understands angles. Sacre is 7 foot cheerleader… I’ll riot

  • Well from the looks of it we might even lose to Maccabi on sunday and the crazy thing is i don’t know who the hell that team is but man we look like the Lost Angeles Lakers right now. I think the game went okay but Kobe truly has to facilitate him and Hibbert we’re great together last game when the ball doesn’t stay in Kobe’s hands long everyone gets involved and we have way better players now so its no excuse, Clarkson has to step up big time, Randle played great but Russell definitely need minutes because this is preseason he needs all the experience he can get. Nick played good as long as he isn’t playing around to much he is a solid player. Upshaw looked good as we all expected. Holmes/ Frazier/ Kelly / Sacshit all must go i definitely hope the season don’t look like this because if it do we gone be at the bottom again but i am giving them the benefit of the doubt because we still have to gel so thats okay but KOBE HAS TO FACILITATE when he did last game the game stayed close.

    1. What do you want Clarkson to do he had 11 and 6 and didn’t even have the ball alot Kobe played good solid defense and offensive.please stop trying to find something to complain about.

  • Well from the looks of it we might even lose to Maccabi on sunday and the crazy thing is i don’t know who the hell that team is but man we look like the Lost Angeles Lakers right now. I think the game went okay but Kobe truly has to facilitate him and Hibbert we’re great together last game when the ball doesn’t stay in Kobe’s hands long everyone gets involved and we have way better players now so its no excuse, Clarkson has to step up big time, Randle played great but Russell definitely need minutes because this is preseason he needs all the experience he can get. Nick played good as long as he isn’t playing around to much he is a solid player. Upshaw looked good as we all expected. Holmes/ Frazier/ Kelly / Sacshit all must go i definitely hope the season don’t look like this because if it do we gone be at the bottom again but i am giving them the benefit of the doubt because we still have to gel so thats okay but KOBE HAS TO FACILITATE when he did last game the game stayed close.

    1. What do you want Clarkson to do he had 11 and 6 and didn’t even have the ball alot Kobe played good solid defense and offensive.please stop trying to find something to complain about.

  • I still feel Lakers should get rid of Byron Scott he’s not a good coach for this team. We need to hire Tom Thibodeau or even Scott Brooks. I think Scott Brooks will be a perfect coach for this team because he developed KD and Westbrook perfectly.

    1. Wish all you want.
      Scott is in year 2 of a 4 year contract. The team isn’t going to pay him $16m just to coach last year.

      And, in case you haven’t noticed, this team is still subpar. So let’s let Scott do the dirty work of rebuilding the team before we look for a top flight coach to polish the diamond.

      Scott or not, making the playoffs will be a miracle…. and Thibodeau or Brooks aren’t magicians.

  • The Good

    Randle is looking great – will have a nice year 15pts/gm
    Upshaw is surprisingly decent – should make the team
    Kobe looks pretty good – 15-16 pts a game for the old man
    Lou is a killer on offense – may lead our team in scoring
    JC – solid starter
    Hibbert – our interior D is very good when he’s in there

    The Bad

    Nick young is garbage, total ball stopper who takes a lot of bad shots
    Nance on the floor kills our flow on both ends
    Our offense is boring and predictable
    We don’t box out
    We don’t steal the ball
    We have no transition baskets because of the no steals
    We help too much on D and don’t play the 3 pt line well

    Overall a good game, Toronto has a lot of talent and is better than us right now. BS better get on these guys about being better on rebounding and D. His offense is crap too – kick it to the top, screen and roll then shooter comes off of the screen every time…no Iso ball, no pick and pop, no double screens for spot up shooters….he’s missing basically the last 5 years of NBA offensive innovation.

    1. finally someone who acknowledges that Swaggy is a Scrub. Don’t know why most guys here think he deserves a roster spot, let alone playing time.

        1. Let’s see what he does in a structured rotation. If he can play consistent, he is a great backup to Kobe and stretch the offense.

          All we are seeing is veterans struggle as Scott experiments and studies his deep bench.

          1. That’s why I said iffy. We need to see how heasy plays with Huertas and Russell in a more stable roster.

      1. Swaggy ain’t no scrub come on now the guy has talent. You’re gonna see him play well with Lou off the bench you’ll see

    2. Wrong analysis on young. I thought he took good shots that were in the scheme of the offense, the few bad shots were because he had to create for himself since no one else could score. He passed the ball at the right times but don’t forget he is a scorer and is not looking to pass every time

      1. I think you are trying to make Young out to be more than he is…. and, I think Young “got the message” and is playing team ball now.

        Also, let’s not make much out of a team when Young and Williams are the #1 and #2 (and only) offense.

        1. I’m just stating what I see in the games. I feel like young and Lou can put up 15 off the bench each but the starters have to score too

  • I still feel Lakers should get rid of Byron Scott he’s not a good coach for this team. We need to hire Tom Thibodeau or even Scott Brooks. I think Scott Brooks will be a perfect coach for this team because he developed KD and Westbrook perfectly.

    1. Wish all you want.
      Scott is in year 2 of a 4 year contract. The team isn’t going to pay him $16m just to coach last year.

      And, in case you haven’t noticed, this team is still subpar. So let’s let Scott do the dirty work of rebuilding the team before we look for a top flight coach to polish the diamond.

      Scott or not, making the playoffs will be a miracle…. and Thibodeau or Brooks aren’t magicians.

  • The Good

    Randle is looking great – will have a nice year 15pts/gm
    Upshaw is surprisingly decent – should make the team
    Kobe looks pretty good – 15-16 pts a game for the old man
    Lou is a killer on offense – may lead our team in scoring
    JC – solid starter
    Hibbert – our interior D is very good when he’s in there

    The Bad

    Nick young is garbage, total ball stopper who takes a lot of bad shots
    Nance on the floor kills our flow on both ends
    Our offense is boring and predictable
    We don’t box out
    We don’t steal the ball
    We have no transition baskets because of the no steals
    We help too much on D and don’t play the 3 pt line well

    Overall a good game, Toronto has a lot of talent and is better than us right now. BS better get on these guys about being better on rebounding and D. His offense is crap too – kick it to the top, screen and roll then shooter comes off of the screen every time…no Iso ball, no pick and pop, no double screens for spot up shooters….he’s missing basically the last 5 years of NBA offensive innovation.

    1. finally someone who acknowledges that Swaggy is a Scrub. Don’t know why most guys here think he deserves a roster spot, let alone playing time.

        1. Let’s see what he does in a structured rotation. If he can play consistent, he is a great backup to Kobe and stretch the offense.

          All we are seeing is veterans struggle as Scott experiments and studies his deep bench.

          1. That’s why I said iffy. We need to see how he plays with Huertas and Russell in a more stable roster.

      1. Swaggy ain’t no scrub come on now the guy has talent. You’re gonna see him play well with Lou off the bench you’ll see

    2. Wrong analysis on young. I thought he took good shots that were in the scheme of the offense, the few bad shots were because he had to create for himself since no one else could score. He passed the ball at the right times but don’t forget he is a scorer and is not looking to pass every time

      1. I think you are trying to make Young out to be more than he is…. and, I think Young “got the message” and is playing team ball now.

        Also, let’s not make much out of a team when Young and Williams are the #1 and #2 (and only) offense.

        1. I’m just stating what I see in the games. I feel like young and Lou can put up 15 off the bench each but the starters have to score too

  • even though it’s pre-season, you still want to build a winning mentality going into the season, especially with a young team

    1. I agree. I get that BS is testing out lineups and whatnot but these were very winnable games.

      1. Well it’s reassuring knowing that they were winnable. Hopefully Byron starts narrowing down the roster and gets some stability and wins.

        1. As you can see they are playing us like it’s midseason hahaha the coaches are really trying to win and honestly i feel that’s perfect to set a winning intention as opposed to “it’s only preseason ” but that’s just me, i hate losing

      2. Definitely winnable, thing is every coach and team wants to torch the Lakers any chance they get, there’s no better win in this league above beating the lakeshow

  • Who cares about 0-3 in preseason, what matters is how we finish in the last 3 games of preseason

        1. Yea it’s Kobe, Byron Scott has forgotten what it’s like to win so he doesn’t care he just wants to run the guys lol but seriously if u saw kb interview he said “it’s a little frustrating to lose every preseason game but it’s no big deal”

  • even though it’s pre-season, you still want to build a winning mentality going into the season, especially with a young team

    1. I agree. I get that BS is testing out lineups and whatnot but these were very winnable games.

      1. Well it’s reassuring knowing that they were winnable. Hopefully Byron starts narrowing down the roster and gets some stability and wins.

        1. As you can see they are playing us like it’s midseason hahaha the coaches are really trying to win and honestly i feel that’s perfect to set a winning intention as opposed to “it’s only preseason ” but that’s just me, i hate losing

      2. Definitely winnable, thing is every coach and team wants to torch the Lakers any chance they get, there’s no better win in this league above beating the lakeshow

  • Who cares about 0-3 in preseason, what matters is how we finish in the last 3 games of preseason

        1. Yea it’s Kobe, Byron Scott has forgotten what it’s like to win so he doesn’t care he just wants to run the guys lol but seriously if u saw kb interview he said “it’s a little frustrating to lose every preseason game but it’s no big deal”

  • Another solid game overall. A lot of improvement already from last year, and that’s what having more talent does for you. Same can be said with the already nice/building chemistry. Huertas is the key here as I think out bench offense will run a lot smoother with a skilled playmaking PG on the court. Allows Young and Lou to move without the ball and get better shots.

    Loved what I saw from Upshaw although the rebounds never really went his way and he couldn’t affect many as many shots tonight due to it leaving his man open which I could tell he hesitated on. Kobe+Randle+Clarkson+Hibbert already a HUGE improvement. Just need to get Russell some burn next game and let the chemistry completely grow.

    I like Metta as a player/coach, but I cringe every time be takes a 3. Has never been a consistent shooter and his handle is still GOD awful. I just think his roster spot would be kind of a waste. But yeah.. they were hot from 3 and that last unit wasn’t very efficient together offensively. Lou is NOT a PG although he could do it for a stretch. Jabari…. yeah. He is always a threat to score, but the tunnel vision is real.

    Sacre cost us another game!

    1. Agree with you almost 99%.

      Upshaw needs more minutes to get into rhythm.

      I think we need Mettas energy off the bench. For that alone and the obvious leadership role I say keep him.

      Like you said, we need Huertas and Russell at PG badly.

      1. I was intrigued as it seemed like MWP was being held back offensively. It’s odd for me to think that guy who was once the #1 guy on his offense barely scratched 6 points.

        Right now, he’s playing whatever “role” Scott has given him. And in this case, it’s a strict order to let the other guys be the offense.

        – Metta looks like he could still be a 13-15 point guy.

  • I was at the game, sitting on the floor under the basket. Three observations that I couldn’t tell on TV:

    1. Randle is far better than I thought he was. He’s electric and he’s going to be a star.

    2. Upshaw didn’t belong on the floor. He was late, lost and tentative. I don’t think he’s going to make the team.

    3. The guards can’t guard anyone and the help defense doesn’t help. They need a lot of work.

    Plus, the shooting was awful. But Metta plays man ball while the others are playing boys ball. He looked fantastic.

    This team needs to get a LOT better. The starters looked decent, everything else was chaos.

      1. Randle was going to be what I thought he would be eventually but I think the big glaring deficiency is the big hole in our defense at the 3; we have no one who can at least keep pace with opposing teams three so far in both the Jazz and Raptors game. Burk, Hayward, and Carroll have had their ways so far against us because we are too slow and old there. Meta played physical but he isn’t the answer in an 82 game season and A Brown still looks like a kid who need about three more years to be fully mature and nba ready. Forget Young and Kobe, they are both offensive players.

        Ups haw was ok but they should have inserted Black as backup and Upshaw 3rd string.

        Btw; was this game in Ontario?

          1. I’m surprised to see seats available. I coulda shoulda looked into getting tickets.

          2. Lots of season seat holders didn’t come. Someone said it was sold out. Hard to believe.

          3. Ooh i know that staples center gonna be packed!
            Hopefully Russell learned something from these last two games

        1. Was to be expected first time playing. But we know Upshaw wouldn’t be in the normal rotation anyway. Byron will likely go with a 9-10 rotation. It’s still possible for Upshaw to make the roster

      1. I heard that.

        And I agree with Byron. Holmes did display allot of hustle though. Upshaw looked good for a rookie.

    1. You couldn’t tell Randle was going to be a monster by watching him on TV?? What size is your television?

        1. Lol don’t get butthurt I was joking…. But I was able to tell that Randle was going to be beast one day just by watching his freaking highschool YouTube videos….. I’m just saying

          1. Watching him up close with NBA players, he’s already installing fear in them. When he touches the ball everyone tenses up. They know a challenge is coming. He already has earned their respect.

          2. I’m with you Dana I’m just being a smart ass, I did see it last preseason when he was punking draymond green and Harrison Barnes

          3. Lol! Yeah. Thanks for catching the dictation typo. Of course, he could be installing in them, too. 😉

    2. Upshaw looked nervous and definitely didn’t have the speed of the game, but he is still worlds better than sacre

      1. Unfortunately not tonight he wasn’t. I felt really bad for him. He’s an underdog and I’m really rooting for him. Plus I met him in Vegas in summer league, so I don’t want him to wash out. He needs this.

        1. Upshaw is ROOKIE OF THE YEAR – 2015 – 2016. KB has been waiting, for a long time for TWIN TOWER rim protection. Guy is 21 yo, Highly talented, by next game UPSHAW will perform better, and better every game. Thx for supporting our Lakers on the road:)

          1. Ummmm…first of all this was a home game, not a road game. Second, Upshaw will be ROTY? You must be his mother posting under the name Thomas. That’s the only way someone could say that and not immediately die of shame.

          2. Well, must be my personal short-mindedness then, to think if NOT at Staples then, ummmm, could be considered an away / road game. Also, further the ummmmm theme:), KB must at least be thanking the GODS, for saying possibly, “about time, the d fence Calvary has finally arrived, with my Twin Towers”. And my final ummmm statement is: Do u kno what it is like to be a shooter, scorer and a star to even begin to know what it must feel like to have those two rim protectors AT UR BACK?

        2. Let me christen him, UNDERDOG, as in the cartoon character. Underdog is here! Let him live up that name.

    3. Upshaw looked pretty solid. Major upgrade from Sacre. I don’t know if it’s a different view from TV to the actual game, but I’d bring him in at least as a 3rd C off the bench. And Randle looked pretty good on TV as well for a while now. But thanks for your observations

    4. Disagree about Upshaw. He played alright. The guy hasn’t played a lot of real game action since leaving Washington. I liked his effort. And he WILL make the team.

      1. Sitting there close enough to touch him, he really looked lost. It was kind of sad, actually. And lots of self-doubt. Constantly shaking his head, beating himself up over his play. Right there next to him, you could see how many assignments he missed, every time he was late, every time he wasn’t where he was supposed to be. It was really pretty bad, I’m afraid.

        1. Seems like D-League for him then. He may not make the team, but that doesn’t mean he’s done. I have a feeling he’ll make in somewhere eventually, if not with the Lakers.

          1. hes better then scare and should be our third string center barring a screw up on his part

    5. Maybe you should put down the law books and pick up the microphone?
      =-)

      Thanks for the observations.

    6. Everything sounds good. except with no. 2. Upshaw had respectable numbers despite Scott also pointing he made tons of mistakes. 25 minutes mostly against defensive minded biyombo. 3-4 shooting 6pts. missed (2 Fts though) 3 rebs. 2 blocks. Imagine when he eventually cuts some of it out.

      Besides, his first game vs real NBA talent. He’s suppose to make mistakes. The test is if he continues to make or not. But no way he gets cut. he’s shown he’s a superior presence on the court than Sacre and Black. 6-8 pts. 4 rebs. 1.5 blocks in 15-20 minutes is what we could be getting out of Upshaw. I’d take that any day over what Sacre can ever bring.

  • Another solid game overall. A lot of improvement already from last year, and that’s what having more talent does for you. Same can be said with the already nice/building chemistry. Huertas is the key here as I think out bench offense will run a lot smoother with a skilled playmaking PG on the court. Allows Young and Lou to move without the ball and get better shots.

    Loved what I saw from Upshaw although the rebounds never really went his way and he couldn’t affect many as many shots tonight due to it leaving his man open which I could tell he hesitated on. Kobe+Randle+Clarkson+Hibbert already a HUGE improvement. Just need to get Russell some burn next game and let the chemistry completely grow.

    I like Metta as a player/coach, but I cringe every time be takes a 3. Has never been a consistent shooter and his handle is still GOD awful. I just think his roster spot would be kind of a waste. But yeah.. they were hot from 3 and that last unit wasn’t very efficient together offensively. Lou is NOT a PG although he could do it for a stretch. Jabari…. yeah. He is always a threat to score, but the tunnel vision is real.

    Sacre cost us another game!

    1. Agree with you almost 99%.

      Upshaw needs more minutes to get into rhythm.

      I think we need Mettas energy off the bench. For that alone and the obvious leadership role I say keep him.

      Like you said, we need Huertas and Russell at PG badly.

      1. I was intrigued as it seemed like MWP was being held back offensively. It’s odd for me to think that guy who was once the #1 guy on his offense barely scratched 6 points.

        Right now, he’s playing whatever “role” Scott has given him. And in this case, it’s a strict order to let the other guys be the offense.

        – Metta looks like he could still be a 13-15 point guy.

  • I was at the game, sitting on the floor under the basket. Three observations that I couldn’t tell on TV:

    1. Randle is far better than I thought he was. He’s electric and he’s going to be a star. He’s NBA ready right now. Wow.

    2. Upshaw didn’t belong on the floor. He was late, lost and tentative. I don’t think he’s going to make the team.

    3. The guards can’t guard anyone and the help defense doesn’t help. They need a lot of work.

    Plus, the shooting was awful. But Metta plays man ball while the others are playing boys ball. He looked fantastic.

    This team needs to get a LOT better. The starters looked decent, everything else was chaos.

      1. Randle was going to be what I thought he would be eventually but I think the big glaring deficiency is the big hole in our defense at the 3; we have no one who can at least keep pace with opposing teams three so far in both the Jazz and Raptors game. Burk, Hayward, and Carroll have had their ways so far against us because we are too slow and old there. Meta played physical but he isn’t the answer in an 82 game season and A Brown still looks like a kid who need about three more years to be fully mature and nba ready. Forget Young and Kobe, they are both offensive players.

        Ups haw was ok but they should have inserted Black as backup and Upshaw 3rd string.

        Btw; was this game in Ontario?

          1. I’m surprised to see seats available. I coulda shoulda looked into getting tickets.

          2. Lots of season seat holders didn’t come. Someone said it was sold out. Hard to believe.

          3. Ooh i know that staples center gonna be packed!
            Hopefully Russell learned something from these last two games

        1. Was to be expected first time playing. But we know Upshaw wouldn’t be in the normal rotation anyway. Byron will likely go with a 9-10 rotation. It’s still possible for Upshaw to make the roster

      1. I heard that.

        And I agree with Byron. Holmes did display allot of hustle though. Upshaw looked good for a rookie.

    1. You couldn’t tell Randle was going to be a monster by watching him on TV?? What size is your television?

        1. Lol don’t get butthurt I was joking…. But I was able to tell that Randle was going to be beast one day just by watching his freaking highschool YouTube videos….. I’m just saying

          1. Watching him up close with NBA players, he’s already installing fear in them. When he touches the ball everyone tenses up. They know a challenge is coming. He already has earned their respect.

          2. I’m with you Dana I’m just being a smart ass, I did see it last preseason when he was punking draymond green and Harrison Barnes

          3. Lol! Yeah. Thanks for catching the dictation typo. Of course, he could be installing in them, too. 😉

    2. Upshaw looked nervous and definitely didn’t have the speed of the game, but he is still worlds better than sacre

      1. Unfortunately not tonight he wasn’t. I felt really bad for him. He’s an underdog and I’m really rooting for him. Plus I met him in Vegas in summer league, so I don’t want him to wash out. He needs this.

        1. Upshaw is ROOKIE OF THE YEAR – 2015 – 2016. KB has been waiting, for a long time for TWIN TOWER rim protection. Guy is 21 yo, Highly talented, by next game UPSHAW will perform better, and better every game. Thx for supporting our Lakers on the road:)

          1. Ummmm…first of all this was a home game, not a road game. Second, Upshaw will be ROTY? You must be his mother posting under the name Thomas. That’s the only way someone could say that and not immediately die of shame.

          2. Well, must be my personal short-mindedness then, to think if NOT at Staples then, ummmm, could be considered an away / road game. Also, further the ummmmm theme:), KB must at least be thanking the GODS, for saying possibly, “about time, the d fence Calvary has finally arrived, with my Twin Towers”. And my final ummmm statement is: Do u kno what it is like to be a shooter, scorer and a star to even begin to know what it must feel like to have those two rim protectors AT UR BACK?

    3. Upshaw looked pretty solid. Major upgrade from Sacre. I don’t know if it’s a different view from TV to the actual game, but I’d bring him in at least as a 3rd C off the bench. And Randle looked pretty good on TV as well for a while now. But thanks for your observations

    4. Yessss. Thank you for this. I think Upshaw is a project worth waiting on though. Also what about Jabari? He is so out of control.

    5. Disagree about Upshaw. He played alright. The guy hasn’t played a lot of real game action since leaving Washington. I liked his effort. And he WILL make the team.

      1. Sitting there close enough to touch him, he really looked lost. It was kind of sad, actually. And lots of self-doubt. Constantly shaking his head, beating himself up over his play. Right there next to him, you could see how many assignments he missed, every time he was late, every time he wasn’t where he was supposed to be. It was really pretty bad, I’m afraid.

        1. Seems like D-League for him then. He may not make the team, but that doesn’t mean he’s done. I have a feeling he’ll make in somewhere eventually, if not with the Lakers.

          1. hes better then scare and should be our third string center barring a screw up on his part

        2. That’s to be expected for someone who was written off.

          He has allot to prove within a small window.

    6. Maybe you should put down the law books and pick up the microphone?
      =-)

      Thanks for the observations.

    7. Everything sounds good. except with no. 2. Upshaw had respectable numbers despite Scott also pointing he made tons of mistakes. 25 minutes mostly against defensive minded biyombo. 3-4 shooting 6pts. missed (2 Fts though) 3 rebs. 2 blocks. Imagine when he eventually cuts some of it out.

      Besides, his first game vs real NBA talent. He’s suppose to make mistakes. The test is if he continues to make or not. But no way he gets cut. he’s shown he’s a superior presence on the court than Sacre and Black. 6-8 pts. 4 rebs. 1.5 blocks in 15-20 minutes is what we could be getting out of Upshaw. I’d take that any day over what Sacre can ever bring.

  • I want to see after the 4th game, to have a set team, I want them to cut the players that they dont need, so the remaining four game is to build up the chemistry and they can set up the rotation, to have a flow offense and defense.

    1. if i was the coach the 4th game would be my last game to mess with the lineups then i would make first cuts

  • I want to see after the 4th game, to have a set team, I want them to cut the players that they dont need, so the remaining four game is to build up the chemistry and they can set up the rotation, to have a flow offense and defense.

    1. if i was the coach the 4th game would be my last game to mess with the lineups then i would make first cuts

  • Lakers Fanboys are so out of touch with reality they think that cutting Kelly and Sacre and replacing them with other pine riders will make a significant difference in the team – and then they wonder why everyone laughs at them.

  • poor wittle faker fanboys gonna make up some more excuses wahahaa

    #WeRunLA #ClippersBasketball #ClippersrunthisCity

  • Did Santiago send you? ….Are you One of Santiago’s peeps?…. Tell him he’ll get his money… He’ll get his five bucks..

  • Did Santiago send you? ….Are you One of Santiago’s peeps?…. Tell him he’ll get his money… He’ll get his five bucks..

  • The Good: Randle, Kobe, Upshaw, Holmes, Hibbert, Clarkson, MWP, Lou Williams’ Offense
    The Bad: Jabari Brown, Nick Young, Nance Jr, Lakers’ overall Defense
    The Ugly: Lou Williams’ Defense, Robert Sacre is still wearing a Lakers uniform

    I know some people are hating on Upshaw, but what I saw was a guy who was lost, but he was trying, setting screens and rolling, this is the first time he has played over 20 minutes of a game since his college days afterall. Yea he got posterized by Bust Bennett, who also torched Holmes on the same play, but these are two guys who showed some promise and genuine defensive effort, if Jabari Brown and Lou Williams didn’t let their men have their way with them, things could have been much smoother.

    1. Upshaw played well on the two split screens on a post pattern offside goalie kick. Roy can only elevate his nose to a higher position for the block on the weak side

    2. You’re still going to be a bottom dweller this season and forever you silly pathetic faker fans. So out of touch with the real world it’s depressing really.

      1. accept the fact that you are a closet Lakers fan, you are here more than regular Laker fans, and probably watch the Lakers more than the Clippers Also flagged.

          1. You stop right there about hibbert and Kobe!
            First of all fuck all that wild as dunking and missing free throws.
            And i know damn well pierce doesn’t compare to kobe 1 on 1 now he may give kobe some defensive problems maybe and it will be a shootout.
            Lastly how the fuck would our 3 new young players compare to veterans you fucking idiot duh!
            But by the time the slippers win a championship our core would’vedeveloped and gotten at least one! !!!

      1. The real question is what was right with him? No defense, stopped the offensive rhythm, streaky shooting, you name it, he owned it.

        1. his defense was solid all night. he was 1 shot from 50% from the floor. stop hating on young he played fine

          1. Meh, I’m not going to argue with someone who doesn’t watch games, and has a major boner for him, regardless of how poor he was.

          2. because you have no argument i did watch the game. he played fine his man did not go off or any thing.

            hes a back up player in this league you need to lay off of him hes not some super star or anything

          3. You just stated he was one shot away from 50 percent, if he took another ill advised shot and actually made it, he would only be 4-9, he played 28 minutes, had -10, got one board and one assist, MWP who is ancient, played less minutes and was far more active on both ends. I would take MWP over Nick Young any day. You are a Nick Young and Kobe Bryant homer, you defend them regardless of how poor they are, it’s a pattern and a sickness that you have. Kobe played very well, Nick Young did not, accept it.

          4. he was 3-8 if he had made 1 more of his misses he would be 4-8 or 50% he did not play poorly.

            your a hater unless the player shoots 50% or better

          5. Yes, but you cannot un-miss a shot that is not possible, do you understand how basketball works? Nick Young was 3-8 he needs to take another shot to get his percentage up. There is no magic retrospective shot un-miss ability. Only in your fantasy land does that happen.

          6. Young played at the 2 tonight and he wasn’t good at either end of the court; I’m glad he is not going to take that roster spot otherwise we would nearly lose every game.

          1. He pretty much did, he got by Nick Young about 4 or 5 times causing the bigs to foul him. Did