Kobe Bryant, D’Angelo Russell, Byron Scott After Preseason Opener (VIDEOS)

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Plenty of excitement surrounded the Los Angeles Lakers preseason opener against the Utah Jazz on Sunday night at the Stan Sheriff Center in Hawaii, with the young backcourt of D’Angelo Russell and Jordan Clarkson, and of course, Kobe Bryant’s return since tearing his rotator cuff. Ultimately, the Lakers fell to the Jazz, 90-71, but we got a small glimpse into what this upcoming Lakers season could look like.

The starting line-up consisted of Russell, Clarkson, Kobe, Julius Randle and Roy Hibbert. Bryant played the entire first quarter, before heading to the bench and observing the final three, finishing with five points. Bryant’s limited minutes were by design, but Scott says he may increase them a bit for Tuesday’s game.

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Lou Williams and Nick Young led the way for the Lakers with 14 and 10 points, respectively. Williams also added in four assists and four rebounds. Roy Hibbert lead the way defensively with 10 rebounds, while Russell finished with three assists and five points on 2-8 shooting.

In the videos below, Kobe Bryant has high words of praise for Russell and Randle, Scott talks about what the Lakers need to work on moving forward and Russell describes what it was like to play alongside Bryant.

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Byron Scott: Lakers No Where ‘Even Close’ To Where They Need To Be

Kobe Bryant: D’Angelo Russell’s Vision Is ‘Astronomical,’ Julius Randle Is An ‘Animal’

D’Angelo Russell: Greatest Moment From His Debut

Loved the energy from the fans there in Hawaii. They were really into it.

  • Feel bad for Scott, has that ‘here we go again look.’ No excuses, have a better roster than the past few seasons. Defense is #1 tho, no D = plenty of time on the bench.

  • Feel bad for Scott, has that ‘here we go again look.’ No excuses, have a better roster than the past few seasons. Defense is #1 tho, no D = plenty of time on the bench.

  • They looked decent on D in the first half. Lots of active hands and didn’t give up too many easy buckets. They gave up some offensive rebounds, but its hard to get clean rebounds when Gobert is out there. They looked winded in the 2nd half, and bad offense started leading to bad defense. Overall I think Byron felt okay with how they played.

  • They looked decent on D in the first half. Lots of active hands and didn’t give up too many easy buckets. They gave up some offensive rebounds, but its hard to get clean rebounds when Gobert is out there. They looked winded in the 2nd half, and bad offense started leading to bad defense. Overall I think Byron felt okay with how they played.

  • They were up double figures in the 3rd.

    Just ran out of gas.

    And the Jazz were probably pissed the crowd was 100% LAL fans.

  • They were up double figures in the 3rd.

    Just ran out of gas.

    And the Jazz were probably pissed the crowd was 100% LAL fans.

  • Byron has been exposed as a poor coach. He intentionally tanked last season, and now there’s nothing left to hide this upcoming dumpster fire.

  • Byron has been exposed as a poor coach. He intentionally tanked last season, and now there’s nothing left to hide this upcoming dumpster fire.

  • Mr Byron Scott, we don’t care what you think, you know what we want. Next game if you can’t deliver, better look for another Job. our winning mentality can’t accept average hope.

  • Mr Byron Scott, we don’t care what you think, you know what we want. Next game if you can’t deliver, better look for another Job. our winning mentality can’t accept average hope.

  • Better win the next game, otherwise the masses will start calling for Scott’s head.

  • Better win the next game, otherwise the masses will start calling for Scott’s head.

  • It’s probably not that urgent .. but if they go 0-8 in the preseason like in 2012-13 then it might be time to worry

    All in all, I thought they looked okay. This team is so much more watchable than the last 2 seasons, and that’s the most important thing. If you’re not going to contend for a championship, at least be competitive and entertaining while building towards that.

  • It’s probably not that urgent .. but if they go 0-8 in the preseason like in 2012-13 then it might be time to worry

    All in all, I thought they looked okay. This team is so much more watchable than the last 2 seasons, and that’s the most important thing. If you’re not going to contend for a championship, at least be competitive and entertaining while building towards that.

  • Pretty much a Lakers home game. It seems like where ever the Lakers play it’s a home game

  • Pretty much a Lakers home game. It seems like where ever the Lakers play it’s a home game

  • because they are only looking at the bad the fast break points were not bad at all

  • because they are only looking at the bad the fast break points were not bad at all

  • For me it’s about competitiveness foremost. However, don’t believe they’ll be that watchable if all 3 players (Russ, JC, JR) start. Very inexperienced aside of going up against experienced/grown men. Otherwise, the season will resemble something like the 1st qtr (1st half of season) IMO.

    I’d start JC (1), Lou (2), 24 (3), Bass (4) and Hibb (5), as long as the combo produces results = a more cohesive unit. They looked lost out-there while not being on the same page. However, I’d expect Russ to start (pg) 4-6+ wks (?) after, once he’s more adapted to the overall grind (pace) of the league which includes travel.

    Best scenario IMO, whoever doesn’t cut it out of the non-guaranteed contracts should get waived. If that happened to be Metta then cool as they can sign him part time to help develop Randle’s game. Thus, whoever’s left should be considered for a future trade (deadline) to help improve the roster down the road.

  • For me it’s about competitiveness foremost. However, don’t believe they’ll be that watchable if all 3 players (Russ, JC, JR) start. Very inexperienced aside of going up against experienced/grown men. Otherwise, the season will resemble something like the 1st qtr (1st half of season) IMO.

    I’d start JC (1), Lou (2), 24 (3), Bass (4) and Hibb (5), as long as the combo produces results = a more cohesive unit. They looked lost out-there while not being on the same page. However, I’d expect Russ to start (pg) 4-6+ wks (?) after, once he’s more adapted to the overall grind (pace) of the league which includes travel.

    Best scenario IMO, whoever doesn’t cut it out of the non-guaranteed contracts should get waived. If that happened to be Metta then cool as they can sign him part time to help develop Randle’s game. Thus, whoever’s left should be considered for a future trade (deadline) to help improve the roster down the road.

  • Russell also brought it up in his post game interview along with many from Lakers media. Game had no flow, everyone wasn’t on the same page to which have to hold Scott accountable now (his team).

  • Russell also brought it up in his post game interview along with many from Lakers media. Game had no flow, everyone wasn’t on the same page to which have to hold Scott accountable now (his team).

  • Yeah I wouldn’t mind seeing LouW starting too. Either way, he’s the best offensive player on the team and hopefully will get big minutes. He is outstanding at getting separation, and not only looking for his own shot like N. Young.

    And i think Bass and Hibbert belong together in the starting lineup too. Hibbert is going to get gassed and eventually stop trying on defense if he’s left out there on in island every night as the only rim protector. Bass is the one who will get in the trenches with him.

  • Yeah I wouldn’t mind seeing LouW starting too. Either way, he’s the best offensive player on the team and hopefully will get big minutes. He is outstanding at getting separation, and not only looking for his own shot like N. Young.

    And i think Bass and Hibbert belong together in the starting lineup too. Hibbert is going to get gassed and eventually stop trying on defense if he’s left out there on in island every night as the only rim protector. Bass is the one who will get in the trenches with him.

  • I fear Scott does not understand that offensive efficiency is paramount in today’s NBA. You can preach defense all day long but if you can’t generate easy buckets with a young core like ours, you’ll have tired and disengaged legs on the defensive end. Scott needs to simplify the offense and evoke his Showtime roots. He and Worthy need to preach pace, pace PACE. These young horses need to run, not be thinking this season.

  • I fear Scott does not understand that offensive efficiency is paramount in today’s NBA. You can preach defense all day long but if you can’t generate easy buckets on offense with a young core like ours, you’ll continue to have tired and disengaged legs on the defensive end. Scott needs to simplify the offense and evoke his Showtime roots. He and Worthy need to preach pace, pace PACE. These young horses need to run, not be thinking this season.

  • BS said they are not where they need to be, and just the other day he said they were far ahead of were they needed to be, here we go again where BS has no CLUE , and going to make excuses again and again, until this season is over.

  • BS said they are not where they need to be, and just the other day he said they were far ahead of were they needed to be, here we go again where BS has no CLUE , and going to make excuses again and again, until this season is over.

  • When a team shoots 90 times (way more than their opponents) and every player gets that bad, you can’t blame it on the shooters. So maybe there was a defense weakness in transition, but that’s not the biggest issue. They couldn’t put the shooters in uncontested situations, and that’s either because the tactic is poor or because the team couldn’t apply the tactic efficiently.
    So I know there’s been a lot of conditioning this summer but did they bother to study set plays together? Like, playing as a team? It’s too slow, too easy to read and relies way too much on individual skills.
    Huertas would do a lot of good on setting half-court offenses and team plays coming from ACB… I’d say that’s the biggest hole in this team right now, and they have one month to fix it…

  • When a team shoots 90 times (way more than their opponents) and every player gets that bad, you can’t blame it on the shooters. So maybe there was a defense weakness in transition, but that’s not the biggest issue. They couldn’t put the shooters in uncontested situations, and that’s either because the tactic is poor or because the team couldn’t apply the tactic efficiently.
    So I know there’s been a lot of conditioning this summer but did they bother to study set plays together? Like, playing as a team? It’s too slow, too easy to read and relies way too much on individual skills.
    Huertas would do a lot of good on setting half-court offenses and team plays coming from ACB… I’d say that’s the biggest hole in this team right now, and they have one month to fix it…

  • People are failing to realize that Utah’s starters played a whole lot more than the Lakers starters. Lakers starters where leading Utah’s almost the whole time they were on the floor together. How else is Scott suppose to find the players he’s going to keep if he doesn’t play them early in the preseason? Wins and losses mean nothing at this point, there’s other things more important for coaches right now than winning.

  • People are failing to realize that Utah’s starters played a whole lot more than the Lakers starters. Lakers starters where leading Utah’s almost the whole time they were on the floor together. How else is Scott suppose to find the players he’s going to keep if he doesn’t play them early in the preseason? Wins and losses mean nothing at this point, there’s other things more important for coaches right now than winning.

  • Safe to say jabari brown is off this team…..been saying this since summer league, he’s the type to thrive in meaningless games like summer league. With huertas out this was a huge game for him to show he has some playmaking ability. Just horrible, don’t think he had one assist, on the bright lou showed he can play the 1 or 2 effectively.

  • Safe to say jabari brown is off this team…..been saying this since summer league, he’s the type to thrive in meaningless games like summer league. With huertas out this was a huge game for him to show he has some playmaking ability. Just horrible, don’t think he had one assist, on the bright lou showed he can play the 1 or 2 effectively.

  • It’s not the result that bothers me, rather the abysmal shooting. You can’t have your full team at less than 1 for 3, that just states they couldn’t set their play to get to the best scoring situation, make the extra pass, open a lane for an uncontested drive, avoid the isolations… This is bothering because that’s the whole tactical approach of the game that’s not mastered, and it takes a lot of time to make it right.

  • It’s not the result that bothers me, rather the abysmal shooting. You can’t have your full team at less than 1 for 3, that just states they couldn’t set their play to get to the best scoring situation, make the extra pass, open a lane for an uncontested drive, avoid the isolations… This is bothering because that’s the whole tactical approach of the game that’s not mastered, and it takes a lot of time to make it right.

  • How can you not see everyone’s legs were gone from training camp. Every shot russell missed was short….clarkson short……those shots will start going in just watch

  • How can you not see everyone’s legs were gone from training camp. Every shot russell missed was short….clarkson short……those shots will start going in just watch

  • I’m not denying it but that’s the case for the Jazz too, and Gobert played close to 10 games a month ago. So where does the difference come from? I didn’t see a lot of brilliance on set plays and that’s precisely what the top team in the western conference do better than anybody else, ball circulation to find the open man with the best scoring chances.
    I didn’t see us anywhere on this road, not last year, not this summer, and not yesterday… So I do hope it’s just a team adaptation thing. The tools are there though, which is a big change from last year.

  • I’m not denying it but that’s the case for the Jazz too, and Gobert played close to 10 games a month ago. So where does the difference come from? I didn’t see a lot of brilliance on set plays and that’s precisely what the top team in the western conference do better than anybody else, ball circulation to find the open man with the best scoring chances.
    I didn’t see us anywhere on this road, not last year, not this summer, and not yesterday… So I do hope it’s just a team adaptation thing. The tools are there though, which is a big change from last year.

  • Transition D hurt, in the 4th quarter. Need I remind, the Lakers were up 59-57 after 3. They were killed 33-12 in the 4th when Scott did what he should have done, kept his starters out, watched to see how his bench would do exclusively. We saw Bass foul out, Sacre and Kelly getting 4th quarter minutes (this should say enough), Black out there and such. The lineup in the 4th wasn’t about winning, it was about seeing what combination of guys could work, what guys could and would do what.

    The Lakers shot didn’t fall, they missed a lot of easy buckets and their legs weren’t there. Scott did what he typically does with practices, he pushed them very hard, wore them down. This is how he develops conditioning. You work them hard, build them up during preseason, eventually rest them before the season starts and they’ll be better conditioned and stronger for it. The Lakers have a ton of new guys as well, new parts that need to get to know each other, as well as figure out timing.

  • Transition D hurt, in the 4th quarter. Need I remind, the Lakers were up 59-57 after 3. They were killed 33-12 in the 4th when Scott did what he should have done, kept his starters out, watched to see how his bench would do exclusively. We saw Bass foul out, Sacre and Kelly getting 4th quarter minutes (this should say enough), Black out there and such. The lineup in the 4th wasn’t about winning, it was about seeing what combination of guys could work, what guys could and would do what.

    The Lakers shot didn’t fall, they missed a lot of easy buckets and their legs weren’t there. Scott did what he typically does with practices, he pushed them very hard, wore them down. This is how he develops conditioning. You work them hard, build them up during preseason, eventually rest them before the season starts and they’ll be better conditioned and stronger for it. The Lakers have a ton of new guys as well, new parts that need to get to know each other, as well as figure out timing.

  • I wouldn’t call Scott accountable on 1 preseason game. I would call it what it was, players that looked tired, players that after 3 quarters the Lakers led. Hodgepodge lineup in the 4th where Scott got to experiment and do with his bench to see what he had, the bench there gave up the lead and got killed. The players looked tired and gassed from 2 a day practices. These guys are getting to know each other, learning timing, a lot of things. There are a lot of factors right now and they have 7 preseason games to get some things together before the season starts. Let’s not be so harsh after the first preseason game. There is a reason why there are 8 preseason games.

  • I wouldn’t call Scott accountable on 1 preseason game. I would call it what it was, players that looked tired, players that after 3 quarters the Lakers led. Hodgepodge lineup in the 4th where Scott got to experiment and do with his bench to see what he had, the bench there gave up the lead and got killed. The players looked tired and gassed from 2 a day practices. These guys are getting to know each other, learning timing, a lot of things. There are a lot of factors right now and they have 7 preseason games to get some things together before the season starts. Let’s not be so harsh after the first preseason game. There is a reason why there are 8 preseason games.

  • Our winning mentality starts during game one of the season. It’s preseason, there is a reason there are 8 preseason games. Preseason is about getting guys time to learn each other, figure out combinations that work, decide which 14 or 15 guys you’re going to start the season with. It’s not about wins and losses. They can go 0-8 as far as I’m concerned in preseason if it means a winning record and a decent shot in the playoffs during the regular season.

  • Our winning mentality starts during game one of the season. It’s preseason, there is a reason there are 8 preseason games. Preseason is about getting guys time to learn each other, figure out combinations that work, decide which 14 or 15 guys you’re going to start the season with. It’s not about wins and losses. They can go 0-8 as far as I’m concerned in preseason if it means a winning record and a decent shot in the playoffs during the regular season.

  • Jabari Brown is a shooting guard, not a point guard. His job isn’t playmaking, it’s scoring.

  • Jabari Brown is a shooting guard, not a point guard. His job isn’t playmaking, it’s scoring.

  • i have a problem with a brown. like what does he bring to the team really

  • It’s sad to see just how dumb and ignorant many of the Lakers fans are on here. As one myself, I came into the preseason looking for specific things. I know it’s a preseason game. I know Wins and Losses don’t matter. It’s about guys learning chemistry, learning to play together, Scott figuring out his rotation, what 14 or 15 guys are being kept for the season, all that. Yet you got a bunch of fans on here who are treating game 1 of the preseason like game 1 of the NBA Finals. TEMPER YOUR EXPECTATIONS! Understand what preseason is for! Relax! This team isn’t going to go 8-0 in the preseason, 82-0 during the season and 16-0 in the playoffs. 1 preseason game doesn’t mean the ship is suddenly sinking.

    The Lakers lead after 3 quarters before Scott put most of the rotation to bed and decided to play strictly the bench. Utah’s starters played heavier minutes, they also have most of their team back. The Lakers have a near fully revamped roster with only what, 5 returned guys, 2 of which probably won’t be on the team when all is said and done (Sacre and Kelly). Yes transition D was bad, yes the Lakers shot poorly, but they missed a bunch of easy shots because they didn’t have their legs. Those shots will start going on. Bad shooting nights happen. Encouraging? While the Lakers shot bad and 59 points after 3, they held Utah to 57. The Lakers were gassed after that. Relax, take the positives and move on.

  • i have a problem with a brown. like what does he bring to the team really

  • It’s sad to see just how dumb and ignorant many of the Lakers fans are on here. As one myself, I came into the preseason looking for specific things. I know it’s a preseason game. I know Wins and Losses don’t matter. It’s about guys learning chemistry, learning to play together, Scott figuring out his rotation, what 14 or 15 guys are being kept for the season, all that. Yet you got a bunch of fans on here who are treating game 1 of the preseason like game 1 of the NBA Finals. TEMPER YOUR EXPECTATIONS! Understand what preseason is for! Relax! This team isn’t going to go 8-0 in the preseason, 82-0 during the season and 16-0 in the playoffs. 1 preseason game doesn’t mean the ship is suddenly sinking.

    The Lakers lead after 3 quarters before Scott put most of the rotation to bed and decided to play strictly the bench. Utah’s starters played heavier minutes, they also have most of their team back. The Lakers have a near fully revamped roster with only what, 5 returned guys, 2 of which probably won’t be on the team when all is said and done (Sacre and Kelly). Yes transition D was bad, yes the Lakers shot poorly, but they missed a bunch of easy shots because they didn’t have their legs. Those shots will start going on. Bad shooting nights happen. Encouraging? While the Lakers shot bad and 59 points after 3, they held Utah to 57. The Lakers were gassed after that. Relax, take the positives and move on.

  • it was 59-59 at the start of 4th quarter and end at 90-71.
    This is just a preseason, BUT this is an opportunity for them to play better.
    Byron Scott, What are you doing???

  • it was 59-59 at the start of 4th quarter and end at 90-71.
    This is just a preseason, BUT this is an opportunity for them to play better.
    Byron Scott, What are you doing???

  • As you said, it’s the preseason. He played his main guys at the beginning of the game and most of them in the 3rd. He got what he needed from them. The 4th was about playing the other guys and seeing what they could do. If you gotta ask what he’s doing and treat it like a game he needed to win, you’ve lost sight of the point of preseason games.

  • As you said, it’s the preseason. He played his main guys at the beginning of the game and most of them in the 3rd. He got what he needed from them. The 4th was about playing the other guys and seeing what they could do. If you gotta ask what he’s doing and treat it like a game he needed to win, you’ve lost sight of the point of preseason games.

  • Roster of 19 guys, 5 hold overs from last year, chances are 2 (Sacre and Kelly) are gone. Give them time.

  • Roster of 19 guys, 5 hold overs from last year, chances are 2 (Sacre and Kelly) are gone. Give them time.

  • Whether you see the glass half-full or half-empty is everybody’s right to express. I won’t speak for the others you mention, but I’m quite tempered on this year’s expectations, as well as for the performance of our rookies. Still very eager to see it. Yet I’m getting concerned by the tactical approach of the game, so why not mention it? I could develop on it. Although I’d like you to be a bit more civil. Don’t go into the insult thing, that does not fit well for someone trying to make a point or start a discussion.

  • Whether you see the glass half-full or half-empty is everybody’s right to express. I won’t speak for the others you mention, but I’m quite tempered on this year’s expectations, as well as for the performance of our rookies. Still very eager to see it. Yet I’m getting concerned by the tactical approach of the game, so why not mention it? I could develop on it. Although I’d like you to be a bit more civil. Don’t go into the insult thing, that does not fit well for someone trying to make a point or start a discussion.

  • he’s a clunker needs to go to d league..lakers sign streaky shooters only and a brown hasnt shown that yet

  • he’s a clunker needs to go to d league..lakers sign streaky shooters only and a brown hasnt shown that yet

  • The insults were very “mild” to say the least and fit “perfectly”. But it’s a situation where some perspective needs to be made and needs to be had under the circumstances. Trust me, I was being “civil”. If anyone gets butthurt over mild insults then maybe the internet isn’t the place for them, or maybe I’m actually right and they can’t handle the truth behind what I said.

  • The insults were very “mild” to say the least and fit “perfectly”. But it’s a situation where some perspective needs to be made and needs to be had under the circumstances. Trust me, I was being “civil”. If anyone gets butthurt over mild insults then maybe the internet isn’t the place for them, or maybe I’m actually right and they can’t handle the truth behind what I said.

  • He had to because Huertas couldn’t play. This is where having a guy like Lou who could play both is a luxury. More often than not, when the Lakers have a regular rotation you’ll see Russell and Clarkson sharing PG duties and Huertas likely backing them with Lou playing heavy SG minutes and fewer PG minutes.

  • He had to because Huertas couldn’t play. This is where having a guy like Lou who could play both is a luxury. More often than not, when the Lakers have a regular rotation you’ll see Russell and Clarkson sharing PG duties and Huertas likely backing them with Lou playing heavy SG minutes and fewer PG minutes.

  • Really looks like Kelly and Sacre will make the team. Jabari Brown may be on the chopping block if team keeps MWP

  • idk his hamstring is questionable but lou can be starter no doubt..looked better than russell big time

  • idk his hamstring is questionable but lou can be starter no doubt..looked better than russell big time

  • he is not a better playmaker than Russell. Maybe Randle should come off the bench

  • he played pg for phily he has experience and shined last night scored the most points..him and young are clashing though..rumor is that young will be traded this year

  • he played pg for phily he has experience and shined last night scored the most points..him and young are clashing though..rumor is that young will be traded this year

  • Not really, no. I don’t insult strangers or friends, whether on internet or face to face. And certainly not when I want to have a conversation. I’m expecting this minimum of politeness whomever I talk to, wherever it’s happening. There are other ways to state a point or a disappointment.
    And this has nothing to do with the content of the discussion, that’s just education.
    You see, I was trying to have a conversation with you, here, not to persuade you of anything, because I actually do agree with part of what you wrote. Yet now I’ve lost any interest to do that. Have a nice day.

  • In regards to Anthony Brown. He was playing with a lineup that wasn’t very talented. He needs guys to make plays for him. He will be a good floor spacer for Randle, Clarkson, and Russell. And Byron Scott’s system doesn’t generate a lot of good looks compared to other teams

  • Not really, no. I don’t insult strangers or friends, whether on internet or face to face. And certainly not when I want to have a conversation. I’m expecting this minimum of politeness whomever I talk to, wherever it’s happening. There are other ways to state a point or a disappointment.
    And this has nothing to do with the content of the discussion, that’s just education.
    You see, I was trying to have a conversation with you, here, not to persuade you of anything, because I actually do agree with part of what you wrote. Yet now I’ve lost any interest to do that. Have a nice day.

  • In regards to Anthony Brown. He was playing with a lineup that wasn’t very talented. He needs guys to make plays for him. He will be a good floor spacer for Randle, Clarkson, and Russell. And Byron Scott’s system doesn’t generate a lot of good looks compared to other teams. Anthony Brown will be a good player with development. He seems to play smart

  • He and Young played well together actually. Lou shot poorly as well, went 4-12. Nick shot best going 4-10.

  • He and Young played well together actually. Lou shot poorly as well, went 4-12. Nick shot best going 4-10.

  • Randle can stay where he’s at. Bass had a poor game statistically and he fouled out. Who would we start in place of Randle, the guy who couldn’t shoot either and fouled out?

  • Randle can stay where he’s at. Bass had a poor game statistically and he fouled out. Who would we start in place of Randle, the guy who couldn’t shoot either and fouled out?

  • he needs to score he’s part of the reason our starting 5 was out scored..teams know to leave russell and clarkson open because they are not good 3 point shooters..teams do scout the lakers you know..i blame scott for not preparing our guys all summer at the 3 point line smh..

  • he needs to score he’s part of the reason our starting 5 was out scored..teams know to leave russell and clarkson open because they are not good 3 point shooters..teams do scout the lakers you know..i blame scott for not preparing our guys all summer at the 3 point line smh..

  • *shrugs* That’s your view and prerogative, though you’ll notice I didn’t come back and directly insult you to follow. But sometimes you need to have a stern way of putting things into perspective. There are times to be p.c. about things and there are other times where you just have to drive the point directly home and tell it like it is. I kept what I said mild but I said it like it was. I’m not speaking about every fan on here but there are those that need to be told exactly how they’re acting and what they’re doing and what they probably should be doing. This panic mode after 1 preseason game is ridiculous. One minute these guys are all about certain players and people, next minute they turn on them harshly and act as if they’re Smush Parker. Next time they’ll play well and suddenly everyone is like Kobe in his prime again and everyone loves them. It’s ridiculous. You see it over and over and over and over again, one can try and try and try and try to say hey guys, chill. But sometimes, you just gotta tell it like it is.

  • i agree Byron is the problem, and a lot of the bad shooting was probably a result of tired legs

  • *shrugs* That’s your view and prerogative, though you’ll notice I didn’t come back and directly insult you to follow. But sometimes you need to have a stern way of putting things into perspective. There are times to be p.c. about things and there are other times where you just have to drive the point directly home and tell it like it is. I kept what I said mild but I said it like it was. I’m not speaking about every fan on here but there are those that need to be told exactly how they’re acting and what they’re doing and what they probably should be doing. This panic mode after 1 preseason game is ridiculous. One minute these guys are all about certain players and people, next minute they turn on them harshly and act as if they’re Smush Parker. Next time they’ll play well and suddenly everyone is like Kobe in his prime again and everyone loves them. It’s ridiculous. You see it over and over and over and over again, one can try and try and try and try to say hey guys, chill. But sometimes, you just gotta tell it like it is.

  • i agree Byron is the problem, and a lot of the bad shooting was probably a result of tired legs

  • lou took more shot and swag was getting mad because lou wasnt passing this could be a problem down the road…young might be traded

  • lou took more shot and swag was getting mad because lou wasnt passing this could be a problem down the road…young might be traded

  • Lou had 12 shots, Swag had 10. I watched the game, there wasn’t an issue.

  • Lou had 12 shots, Swag had 10. I watched the game, there wasn’t an issue.

  • randle has let me down biggg time he’s not blocking shots at the 4 spot smh…we need a better pf like tristan thompson or glen davis..i agree that bass did better than randle even though bass shot poorly

  • randle has let me down biggg time he’s not blocking shots at the 4 spot smh…we need a better pf like tristan thompson or glen davis..i agree that bass did better than randle even though bass shot poorly

  • he’s not blocking shots wtf..he’s more of small forward he wants to shoot

  • Tired legs doesn’t make Byron the problem. That makes Byron the solution. 2 a day practices in preseason and then these games will only help with their conditioning. After their last preseason game, they have 5 days before the season starts. Scott will likely give them their rest, let them get their weary legs back under them, but all this training only helps conditioning. Riley ran the Lakers harder than Scott is right now during the 80’s. I’m not going to sweat it. 2 a days are common during the preseason. A lot of running, a lot of cardio goes into it.

  • he’s not blocking shots wtf..he’s more of small forward he wants to shoot

  • Tired legs doesn’t make Byron the problem. That makes Byron the solution. 2 a day practices in preseason and then these games will only help with their conditioning. After their last preseason game, they have 5 days before the season starts. Scott will likely give them their rest, let them get their weary legs back under them, but all this training only helps conditioning. Riley ran the Lakers harder than Scott is right now during the 80’s. I’m not going to sweat it. 2 a days are common during the preseason. A lot of running, a lot of cardio goes into it.

  • “all of scotts teams had horrible defense cavs,nets,hornets,lakers fire this guy there are better coaches jim buss”

  • “all of scotts teams had horrible defense cavs,nets,hornets,lakers fire this guy there are better coaches jim buss”

  • Having good conditioning is good. But Byron should be looking at implementing a better system. Players will get tired regardless once the season gets going

  • Having good conditioning is good. But Byron should be looking at implementing a better system. Players will get tired regardless once the season gets going

  • Randle 7 pts 7 reb 1 blk 1 ast 1 TO and 1 foul 21.5 min
    Bass 4 pts 5 reb 2 TO and 6 fouls 25 min

  • I’ll say this: It’s just pre-season. BUT! The last few years, the preseason record has been a clue to their regular season record. In the Lakers’ last championship year, their preseason record was 6-2 (as was the Warriors’ record last preseason). Last year the Lakers went 3-5 and, they won only 21 games in the regular season. The year before they went 4-4 and, they won only 27 games. So, while it’s “just” preseason, I think everyone from the Buss family all the way down to us here in the Lakers Nation comments section want to see them get some preseason wins.

  • Randle 7 pts 7 reb 1 blk 1 ast 1 TO and 1 foul 21.5 min
    Bass 4 pts 5 reb 2 TO and 6 fouls 25 min

  • I’ll say this: It’s just pre-season. BUT! The last few years, the preseason record has been a clue to their regular season record. In the Lakers’ last championship year, their preseason record was 6-2 (as was the Warriors’ record last preseason). Last year the Lakers went 3-5 and, they won only 21 games in the regular season. The year before they went 4-4 and, they won only 27 games. So, while it’s “just” preseason, I think everyone from the Buss family all the way down to us here in the Lakers Nation comments section want to see them get some preseason wins.

  • Thibodeau is out there. But maybe they should look at finding that next great coach. I want to see an out of the box hire. Tired of these recycled coaches

  • Thibodeau is out there. But maybe they should look at finding that next great coach. I want to see an out of the box hire. Tired of these recycled coaches

  • Players need to learn the system, learn to play together, all that good stuff before you really can get into systemic issues. If you look at a roster with 14 new players and 5 holdovers and your complaint is the system, you’re looking in the wrong place. This team isn’t going to resemble what it could until at least after All Star break.

  • im freakin livid right now…we suck at rebounding and grabbing boards..no diving for loose balls. lou stopped playing defense in the 4th because nobody else was playing d smh

  • Players need to learn the system, learn to play together, all that good stuff before you really can get into systemic issues. If you look at a roster with 14 new players and 5 holdovers and your complaint is the system, you’re looking in the wrong place. This team isn’t going to resemble what it could until at least after All Star break.

  • im freakin livid right now…we suck at rebounding and grabbing boards..no diving for loose balls. lou stopped playing defense in the 4th because nobody else was playing d smh

  • Yeah. But randle was surrounded by better players which made his job easier. I want to see Randle start, but he is not ready yet

  • there was an issue some shade was going on and i saw it..numb1 is always right

  • Yeah. But randle was surrounded by better players which made his job easier. I want to see Randle start, but he is not ready yet

  • there was an issue some shade was going on and i saw it..numb1 is always right

  • of course. I would have liked to see Randle, Russell, and Clarkson get some more playing time. They need as much reps as possible

  • of course. I would have liked to see Randle, Russell, and Clarkson get some more playing time. They need as much reps as possible

  • tired legs and still no progress whats the outcome of him over working our players…freaking injuries metta, huertas hamstring injuries already fire scott

  • Doubtful. Sacre was awful last night and Kelly still can’t defend. Everyone played poorly last night so I’m not going to jump to the J Brown being canned for MWP just yet.

  • When the offense isn’t clicking, players give up on the defense. Sometimes having a great offense is your best defense

  • tired legs and still no progress whats the outcome of him over working our players…freaking injuries metta, huertas hamstring injuries already fire scott

  • Doubtful. Sacre was awful last night and Kelly still can’t defend. Everyone played poorly last night so I’m not going to jump to the J Brown being canned for MWP just yet.

  • When the offense isn’t clicking, players give up on the defense. Sometimes having a great offense is your best defense

  • Metta is 35 and injured his calf before training camp started. A minor hamstring issue isn’t a big deal with regards to Huertas. Just a little rest and they’ll be fine. Remember Huertas is 32 as well.

  • Metta is 35 and injured his calf before training camp started. A minor hamstring issue isn’t a big deal with regards to Huertas. Just a little rest and they’ll be fine. Remember Huertas is 32 as well.

  • agreed this goes on scott fully..lou was like what kind of team is this..im gonna start shooting crazy off balance shots forget this

  • agreed this goes on scott fully..lou was like what kind of team is this..im gonna start shooting crazy off balance shots forget this

  • Even when not surrounded by starters, Bass shouldn’t have had 6 fouls. Bass has always been a bench guy and should be used to being surrounded by bench players without fouling so much.

    We can say that Randle is or isn’t ready to start, but this team is about the youngsters, it’s not about shoveling a guy to the bench for the sake of doing so. Randle would still see the same minutes more than likely so you may as well play him with the 2 guys he’s going to be looking to develop continuity with over the years.

  • Even when not surrounded by starters, Bass shouldn’t have had 6 fouls. Bass has always been a bench guy and should be used to being surrounded by bench players without fouling so much.

    We can say that Randle is or isn’t ready to start, but this team is about the youngsters, it’s not about shoveling a guy to the bench for the sake of doing so. Randle would still see the same minutes more than likely so you may as well play him with the 2 guys he’s going to be looking to develop continuity with over the years.

  • and I didn’t see much coaching from Byron. He sat the whole time while his team was playing like trash. Quin Snyder is transforming the Jazz.

  • he sure doesnt fire scott jim buss just like you did with coach brown..lakers praticed on the same court for 5 days and got owned even had the crowd support wtf is scott doing

  • He had 1 block and 1 steal last night. Bass had 0 of both and 2 turnovers with 6 fouls. Bass didn’t play better, he played awful.

  • and I didn’t see much coaching from Byron. He sat the whole time while his team was playing like trash. Quin Snyder is transforming the Jazz.

  • he sure doesnt fire scott jim buss just like you did with coach brown..lakers praticed on the same court for 5 days and got owned even had the crowd support wtf is scott doing

  • He had 1 block and 1 steal last night. Bass had 0 of both and 2 turnovers with 6 fouls. Bass didn’t play better, he played awful.

  • He has to let his team build build chemistry, remember this is not the Warriors or Spurs who have kept their players around for a while. We went three straight seasons with new look teams.

  • He has to let his team build build chemistry, remember this is not the Warriors or Spurs who have kept their players around for a while. We went three straight seasons with new look teams.

  • randle is no pure pf he doesnt like to play defense.every one stayed attacking randle because he doesnt block shots.trey lyle owned him

  • randle is no pure pf he doesnt like to play defense.every one stayed attacking randle because he doesnt block shots.trey lyle owned him

  • The problem I saw, was that Randle’s defense is still pretty poor, and he was responsible for Hibbert having to take two of his 4 fouls. Bass had to make up for the fact that he was playing with Robert Sacre, who offers no rim protection. If Hibbert ends up in foul trouble because of Randle during the season…that is going to be a real problem, especially with Sacre and Black having their own issues with being either, useless or undersized respectively. Plus offensively he still looks out of control most of the time, I think playing against weaker PF’s would be better, rather than facing guys like Favors.

  • The problem I saw, was that Randle’s defense is still pretty poor, and he was responsible for Hibbert having to take two of his 4 fouls. Bass had to make up for the fact that he was playing with Robert Sacre, who offers no rim protection. If Hibbert ends up in foul trouble because of Randle during the season…that is going to be a real problem, especially with Sacre and Black having their own issues with being either, useless or undersized respectively. Plus offensively he still looks out of control most of the time, I think playing against weaker PF’s would be better, rather than facing guys like Favors.

  • Kelly is actually a good help defender because is his defensive IQ. He is just weak defending in the low-post because he has weak legs. That’s why he gets push around but his weak legs are pretty nimble for the offensive end catching slow defenders off the dribble plus he has good handling.

  • Kelly is actually a good help defender because is his defensive IQ. He is just weak defending in the low-post because he has weak legs. That’s why he gets push around but his weak legs are pretty nimble for the offensive end catching slow defenders off the dribble plus he has good handling.

  • its embarrassing when teams are comfortable leaving russell and clarkson open..wheres murry ?? i heard he might be fired by the end of preseason

  • its embarrassing when teams are comfortable leaving russell and clarkson open..wheres murry ?? i heard he might be fired by the end of preseason

  • I think we may have a tough time vs the Grizzles with Z-BO. Randle is our strongest low-post defender at PF so hopefully he holds up.

  • I think we may have a tough time vs the Grizzles with Z-BO. Randle is our strongest low-post defender at PF so hopefully he holds up.

  • i was pleased with bass he did well finishing under the rim..his shot will come..we had a 10 point lead with bass very pleased with him

  • i was pleased with bass he did well finishing under the rim..his shot will come..we had a 10 point lead with bass very pleased with him

  • i have yet to see anthony brown produce or do anthing good..throw his guaranteed contract out the window

  • i have yet to see anthony brown produce or do anthing good..throw his guaranteed contract out the window

  • In that regard, I’d like to see the Lakers with stronger, fresher legs before I pass judgment. Everyone looked like they were running through mud. It was evident in their mobility and their shots.

  • In that regard, I’d like to see the Lakers with stronger, fresher legs before I pass judgment. Everyone looked like they were running through mud. It was evident in their mobility and their shots.

  • The guy has been to the Finals twice as a coach and has multiple rings as a player.

  • thats what you want foul attack try to stop the ball bass is a keeper. randle allows too many points to be scored and hibbert cant do it alone.hope we can somehow land tristan thompson we lacking a true shot blocking pf

  • The guy has been to the Finals twice as a coach and has multiple rings as a player.

  • thats what you want foul attack try to stop the ball bass is a keeper. randle allows too many points to be scored and hibbert cant do it alone.hope we can somehow land tristan thompson we lacking a true shot blocking pf

  • When drafted, I thought he could be groomed into a Trevor Ariza type player.

    I think ABrown is 1 year away from being part of a contributor’s conversation, and 2 away from being part of a starting conversation.

  • When drafted, I thought he could be groomed into a Trevor Ariza type player.

    I think ABrown is 1 year away from being part of a contributor’s conversation, and 2 away from being part of a starting conversation.

  • its only one preseason game. They need time to adjust playing together. After the first 15 games of the season we should have an ideal what this team is capable of….don’t panic yet

  • I saw it differently.
    I saw that the team was showcasing both guys hoping they won’t have to cut them.

    I have a hunch JBrown gets sent to the DLeague, and MWP *might* not make the final cut. <- Not that he couldn't, but I am not sure the team needs him, and that his roster space is best used for Ron-Ron.

  • its only one preseason game. They need time to adjust playing together. After the first 15 games of the season we should have an ideal what this team is capable of….don’t panic yet

  • I saw it differently.
    I saw that the team was showcasing both guys hoping they won’t have to cut them.

    I have a hunch JBrown gets sent to the DLeague, and MWP *might* not make the final cut. <- Not that he couldn't, but I am not sure the team needs him, and that his roster space is best used for Ron-Ron.

  • He was playing in the 3 position again. Another case of too many PF’s and Kelly needs minutes somewhere.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Kelly made the final cut. But I expect he’ll be traded before then.

  • He was playing in the 3 position again. Another case of too many PF’s and Kelly needs minutes somewhere.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Kelly made the final cut. But I expect he’ll be traded before then.

  • If Lou has to play PG, things are bad. He looked average at best.

    He played PG because Huertas had an injury.

  • If Lou has to play PG, things are bad. He looked average at best.

    He played PG because Huertas had an injury.

  • …the year before than I believe they went 0-6 with Nash, Kobe, and Coward (lol can’t resist)

  • …the year before than I believe they went 0-6 with Nash, Kobe, and Coward (lol can’t resist)

  • Randle looked like a guy who needs to let things settle.

    By December, all the shots he’s missing will fall. You are paying WAAAAY too much attention to “if the ball goes into the basket” and failing to realize that he’s totally dominating in the process of GETTING the shot (and rebound). Randle WAS beasting out there in the 20 minutes he played, except the SCORE didn’t reflect his overall domination.

  • Randle looked like a guy who needs to let things settle.

    By December, all the shots he’s missing will fall. You are paying WAAAAY too much attention to “if the ball goes into the basket” and failing to realize that he’s totally dominating in the process of GETTING the shot (and rebound). Randle WAS beasting out there in the 20 minutes he played, except the SCORE didn’t reflect his overall domination.

  • Kelly doesn’t fit that 3 spot. It would actually surprise me to see him still on the roster with so many PF’s. His contract pays just under 1 mil so he’s easy for the Lakers to cut.

  • “Bass’ shot will come…”
    but Randle’s won’t?

    We saw EXACTLY what Bass is about… Nothing more than a backup who CAN play starter if need be.

  • A 2020 second round, heavily condition picked. One that goes if the pick lands between 50 and 60 it goes to the Lakers.

  • Kelly doesn’t fit that 3 spot. It would actually surprise me to see him still on the roster with so many PF’s. His contract pays just under 1 mil so he’s easy for the Lakers to cut.

  • “Bass’ shot will come…”
    but Randle’s won’t?

    We saw EXACTLY what Bass is about… Nothing more than a backup who CAN play starter if need be.

  • A 2020 second round, heavily condition picked. One that goes if the pick lands between 50 and 60 it goes to the Lakers.

  • Oh yeah that’s right. It’s Suckre who’s just under 1 mil. Either way, not much cheese. The Lakers are well below the luxury tax and could easily afford to dump his salary.

  • Oh yeah that’s right. It’s Suckre who’s just under 1 mil. Either way, not much cheese. The Lakers are well below the luxury tax and could easily afford to dump his salary.

  • Scott said that it looked like they were a “step slow” in every aspect of the game.

    aka – heavy legs.

  • Scott said that it looked like they were a “step slow” in every aspect of the game.

    aka – heavy legs.

  • Kind of hope he stays we needs his 3 point shooting and moblieness on offense because he has been our only consistent 3 point shooter so far.

  • Kind of hope he stays we needs his 3 point shooting and moblieness on offense because he has been our only consistent 3 point shooter so far.

  • When Byron Scott was referring to them being ahead he was talking about their conditioning, but you can tell guys were just too inexperienced. For example Julius Randle was extremely hesitant, he ruined multiple fast break opportunities because he held the ball too long, if he is going to be a “tweener” or point forward he has to go coast to coast instead of dribbling to the top of the key and passing it off. Julius also hesitated and took too many jumpshots out of rhythm, I think he has to learn how to slow the game down first and see a few steps ahead before he can start being successful. Our team was a combination of fatigued( both Russel and clarksons shots were very flat and constantly hit the front of the rim, clarkson missed at least 4 easy lay ups) and selfish/ playing with a lack of court vision( nick youngs late pass to black, Randle’s late passes and Jabari Browns lack of passing and missed lay ups. )

    My point being, we have hope and Scott knows what he is doing, however we need to see a lot more pick and roll/ laker players yelling rotations on defense.

  • Be patient….
    Scott is a permanent anchor AT LEAST through this season. And, truth be told, he was the ONLY guy who wanted to take the job managing a trainwreck and is doing a good job of turning things around and grooming young guys.

    Let’s let this season settle. Once the Lakers-Trio grow a bit, veterans settle and the team future looks very bright, the coaching options will change.

    And, given an upcoming free agency discussion with Durant, we can’t make any comments about coaches. — I’m still eyeing Calipari or Ollie and not Thibideau.

  • At the end of the day, Byron Scott is not the right coach for this team. It goes to show that the hire of Byron was solely to coach Kobe

  • When Byron Scott was referring to them being ahead he was talking about their conditioning, but you can tell guys were just too inexperienced. For example Julius Randle was extremely hesitant, he ruined multiple fast break opportunities because he held the ball too long, if he is going to be a “tweener” or point forward he has to go coast to coast instead of dribbling to the top of the key and passing it off. Julius also hesitated and took too many jumpshots out of rhythm, I think he has to learn how to slow the game down first and see a few steps ahead before he can start being successful. Our team was a combination of fatigued( both Russel and clarksons shots were very flat and constantly hit the front of the rim, clarkson missed at least 4 easy lay ups) and selfish/ playing with a lack of court vision( nick youngs late pass to black, Randle’s late passes and Jabari Browns lack of passing and missed lay ups. )

    My point being, we have hope and Scott knows what he is doing, however we need to see a lot more pick and roll/ laker players yelling rotations on defense.

  • Be patient….
    Scott is a permanent anchor AT LEAST through this season. And, truth be told, he was the ONLY guy who wanted to take the job managing a trainwreck and is doing a good job of turning things around and grooming young guys.

    Let’s let this season settle. Once the Lakers-Trio grow a bit, veterans settle and the team future looks very bright, the coaching options will change.

    And, given an upcoming free agency discussion with Durant, we can’t make any comments about coaches. — I’m still eyeing Calipari or Ollie and not Thibideau.

  • At the end of the day, Byron Scott is not the right coach for this team. It goes to show that the hire of Byron was solely to coach Kobe

  • Better System?

    There are 15 new faces, and one of the most difficult offenses to learn.

    In 1 week of practice, you expect that the offense will be on Championship form?

  • Better System?

    There are 15 new faces, and one of the most difficult offenses to learn.

    In 1 week of practice, you expect that the offense will be on Championship form?

  • By your own words, 27 or so coaches in the NBA can’t coach in today’s NBA.

    You seem to believe that a faster up-tempo game will win things… and it got lucky and did last year, but realize that EVERY other Championship in history has been won through traditional basketball fundamentals.

    DEFENSE wins Championships. Solid Paint play wins championships. Shooting 3-point shots where the league average is .336% is a gimmick.

  • By your own words, 27 or so coaches in the NBA can’t coach in today’s NBA.

    You seem to believe that a faster up-tempo game will win things… and it got lucky and did last year, but realize that EVERY other Championship in history has been won through traditional basketball fundamentals.

    DEFENSE wins Championships. Solid Paint play wins championships. Shooting 3-point shots where the league average is .336% is a gimmick.

  • lou is best scorer JT your wrong..he just may be our starter since russell is not ready

  • lou is best scorer JT your wrong..he just may be our starter since russell is not ready

  • I think JBrown has a future in the NBA. But, when I look at the depth charts and 15 roster spaces I keep finding that he’s an odd-man-out.

    To me, Holmes, Upshaw, and Frazier have to really struggle for JBrown to make the roster. With Clarkson, Williams, and Frazier (as the obligatory 3-point shooter), he’s the #4 SG… and not adding Kobe.

    I hope we can keep him however. He’s a bulldog and in a perfect world without a 15-man roster limit, he’s exactly the type of guy you groom as a 2-3 year project (as a permanent backup).

  • I think JBrown has a future in the NBA. But, when I look at the depth charts and 15 roster spaces I keep finding that he’s an odd-man-out.

    To me, Holmes, Upshaw, and Frazier have to really struggle for JBrown to make the roster. With Clarkson, Williams, and Frazier (as the obligatory 3-point shooter), he’s the #4 SG… and not adding Kobe.

    I hope we can keep him however. He’s a bulldog and in a perfect world without a 15-man roster limit, he’s exactly the type of guy you groom as a 2-3 year project (as a permanent backup).

  • im not worried about his offense more so his defense is atrocious..he’s the main guy allowing defensive boards and offensive boards to happen..randle should be a small forward

  • ABrown has show exactly what he was drafted for.

    Blue collar worker, solid defense, and spot up shooting.

    You are trying to make him into an All Star when he’s going to be a Blue Collar guy. He’s Trevor Ariza in 3 years.

    And hopefully, one of the league’s best backups behind Durant next year. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • im not worried about his offense more so his defense is atrocious..he’s the main guy allowing defensive boards and offensive boards to happen..randle should be a small forward

  • ABrown has show exactly what he was drafted for.

    Blue collar worker, solid defense, and spot up shooting.

    You are trying to make him into an All Star when he’s going to be a Blue Collar guy. He’s Trevor Ariza in 3 years.

    And hopefully, one of the league’s best backups behind Durant next year. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Yup yup. And with fresher legs and a falling shot, instead of 10/10 or 11/11 you’d probably see him closer to 15-17pts. If he was able to go 5-10 instead of 2-10 he’d have had 13pts over 21 minutes. Aggregate that over 32 minutes. Suddenly we’re talking 20pts.

  • never said randle had bad offensive its his defense that had the starters trailing early

  • Yup yup. And with fresher legs and a falling shot, instead of 10/10 or 11/11 you’d probably see him closer to 15-17pts. If he was able to go 5-10 instead of 2-10 he’d have had 13pts over 21 minutes. Aggregate that over 32 minutes. Suddenly we’re talking 20pts.

  • never said randle had bad offensive its his defense that had the starters trailing early

  • Woah…
    Cherry pick quotes much? And then place them out of context?

    He said, “GOING INTO CAMP” they were far ahead.

    Yesterday, he said, “IN PERSPECTIVE OF REGULAR SEASON PLAY, they are not where they needed to be.”

    You can’t just pick and choose stuff to support whatever beef you have.

  • Woah…
    Cherry pick quotes much? And then place them out of context?

    He said, “GOING INTO CAMP” they were far ahead.

    Yesterday, he said, “IN PERSPECTIVE OF REGULAR SEASON PLAY, they are not where they needed to be.”

    You can’t just pick and choose stuff to support whatever beef you have.

  • Something people still miss in Scott, he does a great job developing guards. Regardless of what one says about his coaching. It’s a young team, they aren’t going to be winning championships for a bit. People need to let him coach, let him develop Clarkson and Russell more. If the time comes that we become a presence in the playoffs and Scott can’t get the job done, fire him then, bring in someone else who is better suited. Let’s wait till we at least get to that point first.

  • The only returning lakers on our squad are Kobe, young, clarkson, brown, scare, and Kelly. Each of those returnees faced season ending injuries or barley played. Clarkson and brown only saw minutes in the second half of the season. We don’t have eye poppingly skilled players yet, they’re growing into that similar to demar derozan on Toronto. But if you watched you’d see Russell needs to play more/ have the ball in hands more, him and Lou were the most poised guys out there along side Kobe, hibbert and young. Think about the horrible passes and lack of cuts when Russell didn’t hold the ball. Now to get back to my point the Jazz had 13 of their 15 players return this year. I’m not counting exam because he was hurt. They also finished their last 29 games 19- 10 and were the best defensive team in the league at that time. Please don’t think the jazz’s record will mirror last years because they’re a problem at positions 1-5 including their bench. We lost to a good team and made them shoot poorly as well but we got torched by their pf and sf. If nance could’ve gotten some time and we saw healthy metta/ more Anthony brown it might’ve been a different game as both player have good basketball iq they challenge who they’re defending, run, cut and make the extra efforts. We have a good team in our future. So enjoy the process and watch them grow.

  • Let’s worry about the offense after Game 1 on the regular season.

    Making random assessments after the first Preseason game is a big short sighted.

    And, making assessments about how to develop guys and how an NBA game should be played (as of Preseason) should be left to PAID GM’s and Head Coaches.

  • FIRE HIM JIMMY We have scott brooks and tom thibs available much better coaches..let kobe go out with a bang..kobe ran to the locker room after the game like were in trouble

  • Something people still miss in Scott, he does a great job developing guards. Regardless of what one says about his coaching. It’s a young team, they aren’t going to be winning championships for a bit. People need to let him coach, let him develop Clarkson and Russell more. If the time comes that we become a presence in the playoffs and Scott can’t get the job done, fire him then, bring in someone else who is better suited. Let’s wait till we at least get to that point first.

  • The only returning lakers on our squad are Kobe, young, clarkson, brown, sacre, and Kelly. Each of those returnees faced season ending injuries or barley played. Clarkson and brown only saw minutes in the second half of the season. We don’t have eye poppingly skilled players yet, they’re growing into that similar to demar derozan on Toronto. But if you watched you’d see Russell needs to play more/ have the ball in hands more, him and Lou were the most poised guys out there along side Kobe, hibbert and young. Think about the horrible passes and lack of cuts when Russell didn’t hold the ball. Now to get back to my point the Jazz had 13 of their 15 players return this year. I’m not counting exum because he was hurt. They also finished their last 29 games 19- 10 and were the best defensive team in the league at that time. Please don’t think the jazz’s record will mirror last years because they’re a problem at positions 1-5 including their bench. We lost to a good team and made them shoot poorly as well but we got torched by their pf and sf. If nance could’ve gotten some time and we saw a healthy metta/ more Anthony brown it might’ve been a different game as both players have a good basketball iq, they challenge who they’re defending, run, cut and make the extra efforts. We have a good team in our future. So enjoy the process and watch them grow.

  • Let’s worry about the offense after Game 1 on the regular season.

    Making random assessments after the first Preseason game is a big short sighted.

    And, making assessments about how to develop guys and how an NBA game should be played (as of Preseason) should be left to PAID GM’s and Head Coaches.

  • FIRE HIM JIMMY We have scott brooks and tom thibs available much better coaches..let kobe go out with a bang..kobe ran to the locker room after the game like were in trouble

  • Golden State was one of the top defensive teams in the league last year. Great offense and Great defense. If they play terrible defense, they don’t win a championship, that simple.

  • Golden State was one of the top defensive teams in the league last year. Great offense and Great defense. If they play terrible defense, they don’t win a championship, that simple.

  • You need to stop thinking in “starter” absolutions and realize that there are rotations.

    IMHO, Randle, Clarkson, and Russell WILL be on the floor when the game starts. After that, it’s up to Scott to make adjustments on how to win the game for the remaining 40 minutes.

  • I’d say depending on playing time he is Ariza end of season/next year. The kid has poise a struck and really understands spacing. But it’s hard to show your stuff in limited minutes with limited plays/sets being run.

  • You need to stop thinking in “starter” absolutions and realize that there are rotations.

    IMHO, Randle, Clarkson, and Russell WILL be on the floor when the game starts. After that, it’s up to Scott to make adjustments on how to win the game for the remaining 40 minutes.

  • I’d say depending on playing time he is Ariza end of season/next year. The kid has poise a struck and really understands spacing. But it’s hard to show your stuff in limited minutes with limited plays/sets being run.

  • agreed he failed with cavs,hornetsnets,now lakers.give him 8 regular season games like coach brown if he fails then fire him

  • agreed he failed with cavs,hornetsnets,now lakers.give him 8 regular season games like coach brown if he fails then fire him

  • RE: Kelly at the 3
    Since last season, I’ve always thought that Kelly is/was a PF, BUT the team is giving him playing experience by putting him at the 3. Given the roster last year, and this year, he’s so far down on the PF depth chart, that he will NEVER get minutes to develop, and as such, he gets put into the rotation as a SF to grow and learn how to be a spot up shooter. And when he did play PF, he was actually a decent player.

    Every team needs a stetch-4 somewhere in it’s rotation. Kelly is growing into his role, but at the same time, I think Nance can equal (and surpass) his contributions by the All Star break. <- I'm not sure why nance got ZERO minutes yesterday.

  • He is a draft and stash away player for a few years, too bad we can’t stash him overseas and keep his rights but here in the d league you can lose him if he is not on the 15 man roster.

  • RE: Kelly at the 3
    Since last season, I’ve always thought that Kelly is/was a PF, BUT the team is giving him playing experience by putting him at the 3. Given the roster last year, and this year, he’s so far down on the PF depth chart, that he will NEVER get minutes to develop, and as such, he gets put into the rotation as a SF to grow and learn how to be a spot up shooter. And when he did play PF, he was actually a decent player.

    Every team needs a stetch-4 somewhere in it’s rotation. Kelly is growing into his role, but at the same time, I think Nance can equal (and surpass) his contributions by the All Star break. <- I'm not sure why nance got ZERO minutes yesterday.

  • He is a draft and stash away player for a few years, too bad we can’t stash him overseas and keep his rights but here in the d league you can lose him if he is not on the 15 man roster.

  • minor aches and pains, they had already announced before game start he wasn’t playing.

  • minor aches and pains, they had already announced before game start he wasn’t playing.

  • HUH?

    Compare:
    PG: Russell
    SG: Clarkson
    SF: Bryant
    PF: Randle
    C: Hibbert

    To:
    PG: Williams
    SG: Clarkson
    SF: Bryant
    PF: Randle
    C: Hibbert

    Williams at PG really clutters things with Kobe and Clarkson. BUT, it makes a lot of sense to switch Williams and Clarkson and let Clarkson handle the ball and make Williams be the SG.

    To me, Scott was giving Williams minutes and seeing what his #4 PG option can do if needed. Let’s NOT think of Williams as a PG as it’s a waste of his ability and talent.

    Folks gotta stop following 1-day fads and trends and start realizing that there is a MUCH bigger picture, and a bigger focus. ANd sometimes, 1-day fads really don’t make sense when you look at the big things.

  • HUH?

    Compare:
    PG: Russell
    SG: Clarkson
    SF: Bryant
    PF: Randle
    C: Hibbert

    To:
    PG: Williams
    SG: Clarkson
    SF: Bryant
    PF: Randle
    C: Hibbert

    Williams at PG really clutters things with Kobe and Clarkson. BUT, it makes a lot of sense to switch Williams and Clarkson and let Clarkson handle the ball and make Williams be the SG.

    To me, Scott was giving Williams minutes and seeing what his #4 PG option can do if needed. Let’s NOT think of Williams as a PG as it’s a waste of his ability and talent.

    Folks gotta stop following 1-day fads and trends and start realizing that there is a MUCH bigger picture, and a bigger focus. ANd sometimes, 1-day fads really don’t make sense when you look at the big things.

  • Bass’s defense has NEVER been called anything more than average.

    You want to trade Randle’s above average Offense and rebounding (but slightly subpar ROOKIE defense) for average defense and offense?

    Isn’t that just accepting Mediocrity? Especially when you are using a veteran who has nearly 8 years of proven mediocrity and hoping he’s going to be something more….

  • Bass’s defense has NEVER been called anything more than average.

    You want to trade Randle’s above average Offense and rebounding (but slightly subpar ROOKIE defense) for average defense and offense?

    Isn’t that just accepting Mediocrity? Especially when you are using a veteran who has nearly 8 years of proven mediocrity and hoping he’s going to be something more….

    — more knee jerk responses and 1-day fad head coaching.

  • Randy Russell is a natural shooter, yes his mechanics could improve but his are positioned that way for additional lift. Looking at the way the ball was flying and all the rim nicks it can be assumed he has never had to run so much in his entire life. There will be a point when all the conditioning clicks and you won’t even remember the struggles just the good times. Steph curry looked very similar his first year, Nash as well with one exception for a pg Russell really doesn’t have the ball enough but when he did he both took care of it and distributed well. He should’ve had 5 assists in his 21 minutes but guys were either missing their shots/got fouled or put there heads down trying to drive into traffic.

  • D’angelo Russell is a natural shooter, yes his mechanics could improve but his feet are positioned that way for additional lift. Looking at the way the ball was flying and all the rim nicks it can be assumed he has never had to run so much in his entire life. There will be a point when all the conditioning clicks and you won’t even remember the struggles just the good times. Steph curry looked very similar his first year, Nash as well with one exception for a pg Russell really doesn’t have the ball enough but when he did he both took care of it and distributed well. He should’ve had 5 assists in his 21 minutes but guys were either missing their shots/got fouled or put their heads down trying to drive into traffic.

  • if this was a survey im sure all laker fans would start lou over russell at this point

  • if this was a survey im sure all laker fans would start lou over russell at this point

  • How’d he look better than Russell? He’s been in the league more than six seasons longer, had a significantly higher usage, drew fouls but took some very questionable shots. A pg facilitates the offense, gets guys moving and eager to cut, Lou had our guys standing and watching at a certain point. But I do think Lou and hibbert will be the two biggest additions and new pieces to our team. These guys will make an instant impact but we have to have Russell play more/ hold the ball more to run plays. His court vision is elite.

  • RE: Randle 20 points
    I’m starting to realize that Randle will be a very quiet contributor like how Pau Gasol was. I’m not sure he’s going to be a flashy guy. I think he’s going to the dirty work and give very steady and consistent offensive contributions. And at the end of the game, we’re all going to look at the box score and say, “another 17 point and 10 rebound game by Randle….”

    I think he can surpass the 20ppg average by the end of next season (2017).

  • How’d he look better than Russell? He’s been in the league more than six seasons longer, had a significantly higher usage, drew fouls but took some very questionable shots. A pg facilitates the offense, gets guys moving and eager to cut, Lou had our guys standing and watching at a certain point. But I do think Lou and hibbert will be the two biggest additions and new pieces to our team. These guys will make an instant impact but we have to have Russell play more/ hold the ball more to run plays. His court vision is elite.

  • RE: Randle 20 points
    I’m starting to realize that Randle will be a very quiet contributor like how Pau Gasol was. I’m not sure he’s going to be a flashy guy. I think he’s going to the dirty work and give very steady and consistent offensive contributions. And at the end of the game, we’re all going to look at the box score and say, “another 17 point and 10 rebound game by Randle….”

    I think he can surpass the 20ppg average by the end of next season (March of 2017).

  • he’s trying to get the starting job which is his if he wants it…when lou came of thhe bench we had a 10 point lead over jazz

  • he’s trying to get the starting job which is his if he wants it…when lou came of thhe bench we had a 10 point lead over jazz

  • The $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ says he’s safe until the end of this season, and probably next.

    He signed a 4 year contract at $5M with $20M guaranteed. He’s not getting fired after 1 season and pay him $20M. And it doesn’t make sense to fire him after the second season and pay him $10M per season average….But after the 3rd, things make a lot more sense.

  • The $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ says he’s safe until the end of this season, and probably next.

    He signed a 4 year contract at $5M with $20M guaranteed. He’s not getting fired after 1 season and pay him $20M. And it doesn’t make sense to fire him after the second season and pay him $10M per season average….But after the 3rd, things make a lot more sense.

  • Russell kinda mentioned that same idea in his video.

    And when the team is winning, the bandwagon really fills up.

  • Russell kinda mentioned that same idea in his video.

    And when the team is winning, the bandwagon really fills up.

  • If he takes anyone’s starting spot its Clarkson. But I honestly feel Lou and young work well together with the second unit. Those guys really had chemistry, Jabari brown was the only problem with the second unit especially in the 4th. He should’ve passed to the open man a lot more.

  • If he takes anyone’s starting spot its Clarkson. But I honestly feel Lou and young work well together with the second unit. Those guys really had chemistry, Jabari brown was the only problem with the second unit especially in the 4th. He should’ve passed to the open man a lot more.

  • Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams/J Brown or Frazier
    Kobe/Young/A Brown/MWP
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    Yeah J Brown could be the odd man out to Frazier or MWP. I think Holmes is more dependent on MWP as well. I think Upshaw makes it. You remove Kelly and Sacre and you’re looking at 7 guys battling for 4 or 5 spots. I think it’s Brown vs Frazier and MWP vs Holmes vs Kelly and Sacre vs Upshaw.

  • Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams/J Brown or Frazier
    Kobe/Young/A Brown/MWP
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    Yeah J Brown could be the odd man out to Frazier or MWP. I think Holmes is more dependent on MWP as well. I think Upshaw makes it. You remove Kelly and Sacre and you’re looking at 7 guys battling for 4 or 5 spots. I think it’s Brown vs Frazier and MWP vs Holmes vs Kelly and Sacre vs Upshaw.

  • I’d put black in the same conversation of who’s cgetting cut. But Black wasn’t anywhere near the fultility Sacre was. The 2 backup centers for the jazz got 10 rebounds in 18 minutes. Sacre couldn’t score, couldn’t rebound, couldn’t box out, couldn’t block a shot, couldn’t shoot. but got 15 minutes. Only way he makes the club is because of coaches’ preference, not cuz he earned it on the court. He’s starting to become Byron’s version of Phil’s Luke Walton.
    But kelly had his moments, give him some success in limited time, build him up to be a trade bait.

  • I’d put black in the same conversation of who’s cgetting cut. But Black wasn’t anywhere near the fultility Sacre was. The 2 backup centers for the jazz got 10 rebounds in 18 minutes. Sacre couldn’t score, couldn’t rebound, couldn’t box out, couldn’t block a shot, couldn’t shoot. but got 15 minutes. Only way he makes the club is because of coaches’ preference, not cuz he earned it on the court. He’s starting to become Byron’s version of Phil’s Luke Walton.
    But kelly had his moments, give him some success in limited time, build him up to be a trade bait.

  • Nance, back spasm. Huertas strain hanmstring. Upshaw is ok but Sacre gets the minutes for now, why? who knows.

  • Nance, back spasm. Huertas strain hanmstring. Upshaw is ok but Sacre gets the minutes for now, why? who knows.

  • yup. win or lose. Upshaw in there gives him a chance to learn. Sacre in there dooms the team to a loss without any future benefit.

  • yup. win or lose. Upshaw in there gives him a chance to learn. Sacre in there dooms the team to a loss without any future benefit.

  • wheres the defense at ???jazz are better defenders and they have a d league coach…am i missing something

  • wheres the defense at ???jazz are better defenders and they have a d league coach…am i missing something

  • I think Thib would wear these guys down just the same. I agree, Go out of the box. I’ve said this before the Scott hire. groom either Rick Fox or Battier. both winners, champs. Both Great communicators who know the game. Battier also knows alot about analytic. Fox has charisma.

  • I think Thib would wear these guys down just the same. I agree, Go out of the box. I’ve said this before the Scott hire. groom either Rick Fox or Battier. both winners, champs. Both Great communicators who know the game. Battier also knows alot about analytic. Fox has charisma.

  • Still got to win some of your games in the preseason. Lose all your games and start the season 0-5. FO will tack on that preseason losing streak to justify. That’s when the coach gets the ax. Then it’s back to square 1.

  • Still got to win some of your games in the preseason. Lose all your games and start the season 0-5. FO will tack on that preseason losing streak to justify. That’s when the coach gets the ax. Then it’s back to square 1.

  • I’m amazed by Russel. What a compose he has! Randle has to step up, he show no confidence yesterday.

  • I’m amazed by Russel. What a compose he has! Randle has to step up, he show no confidence yesterday.

  • ” yes his mechanics could improve but his feet are positioned that way for additional lift.”

    I’m never one to watch and make fun of a person’s look but since you’re making a wrong statement about his feet I’ve got to correct you; the correct way to place your feet on a jump shot is when a player receive the ball his feet is naturally spaced apart. When he collect himself to shoot his feet naturally closes together until he land back on his feet. Watch Russell’s feet when he catch and shoot and you see he goes from wide to wider like spread eagle. It looked like he is trying to put English on the ball to get the correct aim on the ball.

    I call it “spread eagle Russell”….lol

  • ” yes his mechanics could improve but his feet are positioned that way for additional lift.”

    I’m never one to watch and make fun of a person’s look but since you’re making a wrong statement about his feet I’ve got to correct you; the correct way to place your feet on a jump shot is when a player receive the ball his feet is naturally spaced apart. When he collect himself to shoot his feet naturally closes together until he land back on his feet. Watch Russell’s feet when he catch and shoot and you see he goes from wide to wider like spread eagle. It looked like he is trying to put English on the ball to get the correct aim on the ball.

    I call it “spread eagle Russell”….lol

  • Kelly looked more aggressive & quicker to the basket than last year. BS should give him more minutes to see what he’s got now that he’s healthy. Also give Upshaw some playing time to see how he compares to Sacre . Utah too tall for Black to play the 5 against them – probably ok vs a smaller team.

  • Kelly looked more aggressive & quicker to the basket than last year. BS should give him more minutes to see what he’s got now that he’s healthy. Also give Upshaw some playing time to see how he compares to Sacre . Utah too tall for Black to play the 5 against them – probably ok vs a smaller team.

  • Except they lose. Booed by laker “fans” at Pelicans game at staples last year

  • Except they lose. Booed by laker “fans” at Pelicans game at staples last year

  • Off course they need time to adjust, BUT that doesn’t mean all three should start. It’s about W & L.

  • How many times have many of the great coaches been fired? George Karl, Lenny Wilkins, Don Nelson, etc. No this isn’t to say Scott is a great coach, it’s only to say that a coach getting fired doesn’t necessarily always reflect how good or bad a coach is. He got fired after 2 back to back trips to the Finals. Ran into buzz saws in the Lakers and the Spurs. Made the playoffs with the Hornets with Chris Paul. Got fired during that too. Doesn’t say a lot.

  • Off course they need time to adjust, BUT that doesn’t mean all three should start. It’s about W & L.

  • How many times have many of the great coaches been fired? George Karl, Lenny Wilkins, Don Nelson, etc. No this isn’t to say Scott is a great coach, it’s only to say that a coach getting fired doesn’t necessarily always reflect how good or bad a coach is. He got fired after 2 back to back trips to the Finals. Ran into buzz saws in the Lakers and the Spurs. Made the playoffs with the Hornets with Chris Paul. Got fired during that too. Doesn’t say a lot.

  • That’s Byron for you. It’s only pre-season, right? Should have played Upshaw at some point.

  • That’s Byron for you. It’s only pre-season, right? Should have played Upshaw at some point.

  • My view isn’t harsh as opposed to others. IMO Scott should roll more so 80% as opposed to 100% all out during training days. Yes, Scott’s rigorous workouts will help in the longterm but the Showtime era played at a slower pace than the run & gun that is seen today.

    Back then (showtime) it was more about strength and power as today the games is more about running, pick and rolls and long range shooting.

  • My view isn’t harsh as opposed to others. IMO Scott should roll more so 80% as opposed to 100% all out during training days. Yes, Scott’s rigorous workouts will help in the longterm but the Showtime era played at a slower pace than the run & gun that is seen today.

    Back then (showtime) it was more about strength and power as today the games is more about running, pick and rolls and long range shooting.

  • lol great yes defend yourself on that word scott hasnt won anything yet for us.all eyes are on scott going forward as mitch guaranteed a playoff birth

  • lol great yes defend yourself on that word scott hasnt won anything yet for us.all eyes are on scott going forward as mitch guaranteed a playoff birth

  • Show time was a run and gun and if the run wasn’t there, they utilized their post game and Magic’s passing to get plays made. It was a combination. Like the Suns did with 7 seconds or Shaq, it was 7 seconds or Kareem or Magic.

  • Show time was a run and gun and if the run wasn’t there, they utilized their post game and Magic’s passing to get plays made. It was a combination. Like the Suns did with 7 seconds or Shaq, it was 7 seconds or Kareem or Magic.

  • Don’t forget the Lakers had a 12+ pt lead during the 2nd qtr and gave that up as well as other leads. Off course it’s about experimenting but if they can’t play defense when it counts aside of consistently then that falls on the coach aside of the players themselves = lots of bench time.

    It’s clear that there’s a lot of inexperience in the youth that will lead to some tough games down the road, however, best to place the best product on the floor as opposed to letting the youth sink or swim as starters. Cohesion will take time but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try to play to win every game as opposed to just settling in molding the youth for the season.

  • Don’t forget the Lakers had a 12+ pt lead during the 2nd qtr and gave that up as well as other leads. Off course it’s about experimenting but if they can’t play defense when it counts aside of consistently then that falls on the coach aside of the players themselves = lots of bench time.

    It’s clear that there’s a lot of inexperience in the youth that will lead to some tough games down the road, however, best to place the best product on the floor as opposed to letting the youth sink or swim as starters. Cohesion will take time but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try to play to win every game as opposed to just settling in molding the youth for the season.

  • It’s preseason. Right now it’s about changing out pieces, see what works, what doesn’t. You don’t stick with guys and try to play them 30 plus minutes when you find a combination. You note that combination, try something else from there and see if that works. If it doesn’t, you adjust it until you find another combination and another and so on and so forth. Yes they were up by 12, they were also up by 2 at the end of 3 before getting spanked in the 4th. The guys who needed minutes got the minutes they needed to get to start. Gotta see who’s going to make the team, who isn’t, who works and who doesn’t. Who fits the bill and who is a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. Right now, Suckre is a square and Kelly. I also remember the Lakers were down 8 to start and pulled close at the end of the 1st. Struggled to start down 14-6. So they’ve figured out their starting 5 can pretty much work and certain combos with them. It’s the bench now Scott needs to figure out. But that’s going to mean playing all 19 guys in some facet or another. It’s when you extend to the end of the bench when you have a team like Utah who virtually has their roster set with little turnover that you’re likely going to lose some games in preseason. This has to be accepted.

  • Not saying they didn’t run back in the day but that’s the preferred style of play for many in the league today. Larry Bird’s even opted for this (Pacers) type of pace. IMO it’s observed more (faster pace) in the game transtionally on both ends of the floor.

  • It’s preseason. Right now it’s about changing out pieces, see what works, what doesn’t. You don’t stick with guys and try to play them 30 plus minutes when you find a combination. You note that combination, try something else from there and see if that works. If it doesn’t, you adjust it until you find another combination and another and so on and so forth. Yes they were up by 12, they were also up by 2 at the end of 3 before getting spanked in the 4th. The guys who needed minutes got the minutes they needed to get to start. Gotta see who’s going to make the team, who isn’t, who works and who doesn’t. Who fits the bill and who is a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. Right now, Suckre is a square and Kelly. I also remember the Lakers were down 8 to start and pulled close at the end of the 1st. Struggled to start down 14-6. So they’ve figured out their starting 5 can pretty much work and certain combos with them. It’s the bench now Scott needs to figure out. But that’s going to mean playing all 19 guys in some facet or another. It’s when you extend to the end of the bench when you have a team like Utah who virtually has their roster set with little turnover that you’re likely going to lose some games in preseason. This has to be accepted.

  • Not saying they didn’t run back in the day but that’s the preferred style of play for many in the league today. Larry Bird’s even opted for this (Pacers) type of pace. IMO it’s observed more (faster pace) in the game transtionally on both ends of the floor.

  • Lol, not making a big deal out of the pre-season but it’s still about fundamentals. Can’t play D then plenty of time on the bench. Defense’s effort aside of a basic game fundamental. Let’s not forget that Scott hasn’t mentioned who’ll be his starting 5 yet. Thus, he’s still experimenting to which the starting 5 from yesterday showed a lot of inexperience which correlates more to youth inexperience. To me it’s about W & L while molding the youth.

  • Lol, not making a big deal out of the pre-season but it’s still about fundamentals. Can’t play D then plenty of time on the bench. Defense’s effort aside of a basic game fundamental. Let’s not forget that Scott hasn’t mentioned who’ll be his starting 5 yet. Thus, he’s still experimenting to which the starting 5 from yesterday showed a lot of inexperience which correlates more to youth inexperience. To me it’s about W & L while molding the youth.

  • Shortsighted is not looking at last season and Scott’s recent history in making an assessment. I don’t need more of a sample size when he’s constantly showing and telling us about his disdain for modern NBA offense.

    I don’t know what you problem is but you need to check yourself as you make similar prejudgments also. #Hypocrite

  • Shortsighted is not looking at last season and Scott’s recent history in making an assessment. One doesn’t need more of a sample size when he’s constantly showing and telling us about his disdain for modern NBA offense.

    I don’t know what your problem is but you need to check yourself as you make similar prejudgments also. #Hypocrite

  • Lakers need a coach like Scott Brooks or Mark Jackson, this guys can coach the young guys.
    Watching the game yesterday, it was awful. i know its preseason game but come on man. BS don’t know what his doing.

  • Lakers need a coach like Scott Brooks or Mark Jackson, this guys can coach the young guys.
    Watching the game yesterday, it was awful. i know its preseason game but come on man. BS don’t know what his doing.

  • Never been a fan of BS. 14 seasons coaching, 9 of those losing records. HASN’T reached 25 wins in 5 coaching seasons. Only slight positive is he has worked with CP3 and Irving

  • Never been a fan of BS. 14 seasons coaching, 9 of those losing records. HASN’T reached 25 wins in the last 5 coaching seasons. Only slight positive is he has worked with CP3 and Irving

  • ”it’s just preseason though” – Faker fans for the last 4 seasons.

  • Byron loser coach scott making excusesagainfor getting beat up, my god when will thelakersstop hiring former lakers players to coach it never works except for pat riley after him no formerplayer coached good!

  • Byron loser coach scott making excusesagainfor getting beat up, my god when will thelakersstop hiring former lakers players to coach it never works except for pat riley after him no formerplayer coached good!

  • Let’s be honest, none of these busts, scrubs and has beens on this Lakers roster would make the roster on any other NBA team except maybe Brandon Bass.

  • Let’s be honest, none of these busts, scrubs and has beens on this Lakers roster with the exception of Brandon Bass would make the roster on any other NBA team or EuroLeague team, hey i heard the Samoan League is hiring haha

  • Jim213,

    I am not so sure the starting lineups in preseason and regular season will be the same. I think the players will be on short leashes. Byron Scott has no time or luxury in letting regular season games just slip away. I think many times people read too much into preseason games. The effort and rotations will be different once the regular season starts.

    And even then I don’t think you read too much into how the first few games go. Even if the Lakers go 8 and 2 in the first ten games they may go 3 and 7 in the next ten games or visa versa.

    Obviously with so many new players and a few highly regarded young prospects it will take time to develop trust, timing, chemistry, and team confidence.

    I think we all know there will be some ups and downs.
    If not your in for quite the ride. hopefully they all stay healthy.

    Go Lakers !

    Paytc

  • Jim213,

    I am not so sure the starting lineups in preseason and regular season will be the same. I think the players will be on short leashes. Byron Scott has no time or luxury in letting regular season games just slip away. I think many times people read too much into preseason games. The effort and rotations will be different once the regular season starts.

    And even then I don’t think you read too much into how the first few games go. Even if the Lakers go 8 and 2 in the first ten games they may go 3 and 7 in the next ten games or visa versa. It will take time to see what lineups work best in actual real time/ real game situations.
    As well as seeing who plays well both at home and away.

    Obviously with so many new players and a few highly regarded young prospects it will take time to develop trust, timing, chemistry, and team confidence.

    I think we all know there will be some ups and downs.
    If not your in for quite the ride. Hopefully they all stay healthy.

    I just wonder if the Lakers had won by 30 would people be so quick to believe they were a great team?

    Go Lakers !

    Paytc

  • i was happy when they hired him in the first place, he was a lakers and he was playing in the showtime era, i thought he can bring back the old days but i was wrong… his favoritism type of coach… his system is not for this young guys.

    I would be happy if we can get Scott Brooks or Mark Jackson.

  • i was happy when they hired him in the first place, he was a lakers and he was playing in the showtime era, i thought he can bring back the old days but i was wrong… his favoritism type of coach… his system is not for this young guys.

    I would be happy if we can get Scott Brooks or Mark Jackson.

  • If you were a clever troll, you’d say it would be a short season, as it will end in April. Sadly you are not however, as evidenced by your continued participation on here, with multiple screen names. That’s my feeding of you done, now on to the flagging.

  • If you were a clever troll, you’d say it would be a short season, as it will end in April. Sadly you are not however, as evidenced by your continued participation on here, with multiple screen names. That’s my feeding of you done, now on to the flagging.

  • oh patrick, are you trying to insult me? awhhh….no it’s going to be a long, depressing, painful season especially for you BAHAHA.

  • oh patrick, are you trying to insult me? awhhh….no it’s going to be a long, depressing, painful season especially for you BAHAHA.

  • The conundrum that is Robert Sacre continues…He got more minutes than Black and Upshaw, did nothing but one sky hook looking shot in that whole time, his defense is non existent and he couldn’t rebound to save his life. I don’t understand the allure of him, does he have some dirt on Byron or the FO? It cannot possibly be that he is being showcased for a future trade as every minute he plays, he only downgrades what minuscule value he already had. Cut that shit immediately, he’d be lucky to get a game in China.

  • The conundrum that is Robert Sacre continues…He got more minutes than Black and Upshaw, did nothing but one sky hook looking shot in that whole time, his defense is non existent and he couldn’t rebound to save his life. I don’t understand the allure of him, does he have some dirt on Byron or the FO? It cannot possibly be that he is being showcased for a future trade as every minute he plays, he only downgrades what minuscule value he already had. Cut that shit immediately, he’d be lucky to get a game in China.

  • That goes for 90% of the Lakers roster. The new Samoan Basketball Association is hiring i heard!

  • That goes for 90% of the Lakers roster. The new Samoan Basketball Association is hiring i heard!

  • i want tristan thompson lakers are lacking a shot blocking power forward

  • i want tristan thompson lakers are lacking a shot blocking power forward

  • And you’re going to watch every single game from pre season till the end of the season like a faithful Lakers fan

  • And you’re going to watch every single game from pre season till the end of the season like a faithful Lakers fan

  • I disagree man. You’re definitely overthinking his mechanics. Not to mention shot adjustments happen over time and change your form takes time often leading to lower efficientcy in the short term. Let the kid play a season and then comment because the nit picking of Russell has gone too far. If he was shooting a higher percentage you’d have nothing to say. My point is yes he needs to improve and I believe he will improve but talking about his feet getting wider when James harden takes and curry take it to another level is crazy. Let the 19 pg of future have some time to develop and settle into the league. Kobe was not Kobe his first year and a half in the league. See the potential and trust in the process.

  • I disagree man. You’re definitely overthinking his mechanics. Not to mention shot adjustments happen over time and changing your form takes time often leading to lower efficientcy in the short term.

    Let the kid play a season and then comment because the nit picking of Russell has gone too far. Everyone’s a critic because they want instant impact but look at his usage his teammates and their system. Is it him being utilized in the wrong way combined with poor conditioning or do you think he just doesn’t have what it takes to be an all star or better?

    Also If he was shooting a higher percentage you’d have nothing to say. My point is yes he needs to improve and I believe he will improve but talking about his feet getting wider when James harden and curry take it to another level is crazy. The difference is they make their shots.

    Let the 19 pg of the future have some time to develop and settle into the league. I know he’s a laker and we are in 2015 but patience my brother patience. Kobe was not Kobe his first year and a half in the league. See the potential and trust in the process. Trust in his evolution because I saw a lot of potential last night.

  • Your trolling is also a form of acknowledging Lakers greatness… Just so you know

  • Your trolling is also a form of acknowledging Lakers greatness… Just so you know

  • Well said.

    The most critical thing for Russell was protecting the ball and finding the ball an optimum destination. He protected the ball very very well and made solid and accurate passing decisions.

    Great job!

  • Well said.

    The most critical thing for Russell was protecting the ball and finding the ball an optimum destination. He protected the ball very very well and made solid and accurate passing decisions.

    Great job!

  • You share my exact thoughts. Congrats on a well analyzed and nicely expressed post.

  • You share my exact thoughts. Congrats on a well analyzed and nicely expressed post.

  • It’s 1 pre season game, they have heavy legs after 2 adays and they need to play together, no need to change the lineup and start Lou Williams.Keep them in their spots,and Lou ready to fill his role…. Furthermore, Lou has a movable Contract he may not make it pass the trading deadline…People are already calling for a change in the lineup… Shots will fall some nights and sometimes not….At least look at 6 preseason games.

  • It’s 1 pre season game, they have heavy legs after 2 adays and they need to play together, no need to change the lineup and start Lou Williams.Keep them in their spots,and Lou ready to fill his role…. Furthermore, Lou has a movable Contract he may not make it pass the trading deadline…People are already calling for a change in the lineup… Shots will fall some nights and sometimes not….At least look at 6 preseason games.

  • Congrats to my man Louis Williams…14 points 4 assists.

    Hibbert you didnt let us down….10 rebounds, and solid defense with minimal fouling.

  • Congrats to my man Louis Williams…14 points 4 assists.

    Hibbert you didnt let us down….10 rebounds, and solid defense with minimal fouling.

  • It’s no need to mess with the line up…Especially after one Pre season game… Heavy legs plated a part in the suboar shooting and the starters do need time to learn to play together… Let Liy Stay were he is in the rotation… Don’t pull the plug after one preseason game…..

  • It’s no need to mess with the line up…Especially after one Pre season game… Heavy legs played a part in the subpar shooting and the starters do need time to learn to play together… Let Lou Stay where he is in the rotation… Don’t pull the plug after one preseason game…..

  • I’m bit a Jazz fan so I could care less about them…. Wish vthe Jazz good health….other than that I don’t talk about other teams I’m talking about the Lakers…. I don’t know if the Jazz have 2 aday practice. Last season Scott practiced the Lakers right before a preseason game. .He does it to get them in shape his way. .last night the entire team shit poorly… Dead legs… That all I’m saying. And they need time to play together also.

  • I’m not a Jazz fan so I could care less about them…. Wish the Jazz good health….other than that I don’t talk about other teams. I’m talking about the Lakers…. I don’t know if the Jazz have 2 aday practice. Last season Scott practiced the Lakers right before a preseason game. .He does it to get them in shape his way. .last night the entire team shot poorly… Dead legs… That all I’m saying. And they need time to play together also.

  • well getting into shape doesn’t produce good play. Every team gets gassed during the season

  • well getting into shape doesn’t produce good play. Every team gets gassed during the season

  • btw Jazz ranked first last season for opponent points per game, 94.9 pts.

  • btw Jazz ranked first last season for opponent points per game, 94.9 pts.

  • Of course they get tired….Let this lineup play together for awhile and see how they jell because no use trying to bring them along Slowly,
    for what??? Start the process now.

  • Of course they get tired….Let this lineup play together for awhile and see how they jell because no use trying to bring them along Slowly,
    for what??? Start the process now.

  • They will probably win the same amount with all these other lineups that people are talking about so they may as well stay with the youngsters… Let them learn how to carry the load especially with Kobe out there with them….Lou Williams, Bass, and some of the others that people are talking about starting is not going to be much of a difference in terms of how much more they will win…Don’t interrupt the development for a few wins now…. This is just preseason….Take a real good look at that lineup before you just start shuffling.

  • They will probably win the same amount with all these other lineups that people are talking about so they may as well stay with the youngsters… Let them learn how to carry the load especially with Kobe out there with them….Lou Williams, Bass, and some of the others that people are talking about starting is not going to be much of a difference in terms of how much more they will win…Don’t interrupt the development for a few wins now…. This is just preseason….Take a real good look at that lineup before you just start shuffling.

  • its true but we did get back its not like the jzz scored 30+ fast break points like teams did on us last season

  • its true but we did get back its not like the jzz scored 30+ fast break points like teams did on us last season

  • I never wanna bash a legend, but I’m concerned with Byron as well. I think the defense will improve this year. But on offense this slow ass pace is killing me! They need to keep it simply and just run high pick and rolls (like everyone else) and have a couple little sets out of the Princeton and if all else fails have a Kobe iso post up with one cutter and everyone else spotting up

    With all the guards and tweeners on this team, it’s built to get easy buckets and RUN!

  • I never wanna bash a legend, but I’m concerned with Byron as well. I think the defense will improve this year. But on offense this slow ass pace is killing me! They need to keep it simply and just run high pick and rolls (like everyone else) and have a couple little sets out of the Princeton and if all else fails have a Kobe iso post up with one cutter and everyone else spotting up

    With all the guards and tweeners on this team, it’s built to get easy buckets and RUN!

  • Julius Randle can’t post up for sh*t, man.

    He’s mobile and has handles for a PF but he’s just really making life more difficult for himself than it needs to be. He really needs to watch tape on Elton Brand and Zach Randolph and incorporate that into his game: One or two back down dribbles, pump-fake, get fouled or a bucket THAT’S IT!

    All this crossover/jab-step/hesitation BS just gives the defense more time to hone in on him.

    His rebounding needs to be more consistent too. Right now looks like he just gets them when they’re available and not fighting for boards.

    He needs to address this or he’ll turn into a non-shooting Antoine Walker

  • Julius Randle can’t post up for sh*t, man.

    He’s mobile and has handles for a PF but he’s just really making life more difficult for himself than it needs to be. He really needs to watch tape on Elton Brand and Zach Randolph and incorporate that into his game: One or two back down dribbles, pump-fake, get fouled or a bucket THAT’S IT!

    All this crossover/jab-step/hesitation BS just gives the defense more time to hone in on him.

    His rebounding needs to be more consistent too. Right now looks like he just gets them when they’re available and not fighting for boards.

    He needs to address this or he’ll turn into a non-shooting Antoine Walker

  • “Also If he was shooting a higher percentage you’d have nothing to say. My point is yes he needs to improve”

    Of course it would only be passed as an unusual flaw if he was shooting better but he’s been doing this in SL as well and common sense can make a person come to this conclusion. I think I am just stating the obvious.

    That’s why were all here to have a discussion whether I think you’re right or you think I am right. The fact is tapes don’t lie and what I’ve just said is true, go back and watch the footage and compare Harden and Curry. Eventually the coaching staff will help him with that and he’ll be more efficient and we’ll see that flaw disappear.

  • “Also If he was shooting a higher percentage you’d have nothing to say. My point is yes he needs to improve”

    Of course it would only be passed as an unusual flaw if he was shooting better but he’s been doing this in SL as well and common sense can make a person come to this conclusion. I think I am just stating the obvious.

    That’s why were all here to have a discussion whether I think you’re right or you think I am right. The fact is tapes don’t lie and what I’ve just said is true, go back and watch the footage and compare Harden and Curry. Eventually the coaching staff will help him with that and he’ll be more efficient and we’ll see that flaw disappear.

  • jim buss wont hesitate to fire a coach without warning like he did with mike brown..coach scott is under radar

  • jim buss wont hesitate to fire a coach without warning like he did with mike brown..coach scott is under radar

  • i hope so, but i think they will let Byron finish out the year unless they play terrible

  • i hope so, but i think they will let Byron finish out the year unless they play terrible

  • mitch promised a playoff birth so they will take action if needed early on

  • mitch promised a playoff birth so they will take action if needed early on

  • i kinda want lakers to loses every game just to see Byron fired. I hate to say it but this team will not go anywhere with him

  • Good observations, Randle at the post would be hard to defend because of his strength but hes not a natural post player he needs to work on it, he also needs to use his right more he’s too predictable with his left

  • i kinda want lakers to loses every game just to see Byron fired. I hate to say it but this team will not go anywhere with him

  • Good observations, Randle at the post would be hard to defend because of his strength but hes not a natural post player he needs to work on it, he also needs to use his right more he’s too predictable with his left

  • One thing that’s glaringly obvious is this team’s lack of an athletic small forward. Every team needs like two or three of those. Granted it’s preseason and Kobe wasn’t going full speed, I saw Gordon Hayward eat his lunch a couple times.

    Assuming he makes the team, I still trust Metta to guard those power SF’s or smaller PF’s (Carmelo Anthony, Blake Griffin, Jabari Parker) but we don’t have a guy to cover those rangy athletic forwards (Kawhi, Paul George, etc.)

    Anthony Brown isn’t ready and while Clarkson is athletic he’s just too small for those types of players

  • One thing that’s glaringly obvious is this team’s lack of an athletic small forward. Every team needs like two or three of those. Granted it’s preseason and Kobe wasn’t going full speed, I saw Gordon Hayward eat his lunch a couple times.

    Assuming he makes the team, I still trust Metta to guard those power SF’s or smaller PF’s (Carmelo Anthony, Blake Griffin, Jabari Parker, Paul Pierce, etc) but we don’t have a guy to cover those rangy athletic forwards (Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Durant)

    Anthony Brown isn’t ready (even if he was, he’s not athletic enough), Larry Nance won’t be able to move his feet like that, and while Clarkson is athletic he’s just too small for those types of players

  • its going to be interesting year for sure im just disappointed that our rookies our not progressing like they should..they are being left open beyond the arc and challenged because they cant make a 3 consistantly

  • its going to be interesting year for sure im just disappointed that our rookies our not progressing like they should..they are being left open beyond the arc and challenged because they cant make a 3 consistantly

  • Choke it out troll, choke it out.

    clipped fans are like their team….43 year old ring-less virgins.

  • Choke it out troll, choke it out.

    clipped fans are like their team….43 year old ring-less virgins.

  • anyone else feel like it’d be better for the Lakers and Julius Randle if Bass started over him?

  • anyone else feel like it’d be better for the Lakers and Julius Randle if Bass started over him?

  • ?? I think people only say that bc of his stature but Kelly is actually an average defender, knows when to rotate and takes a good position when being backed down. He has a good defensive iq

  • ?? I think people only say that bc of his stature but Kelly is actually an average defender, knows when to rotate and takes a good position when being backed down. He has a good defensive iq

  • yeah he’s most effective and has a biggest impact at the 4 but Byron only plays him at three especially now that the 4 spot is congested

  • yeah he’s most effective and has a biggest impact at the 4 but Byron only plays him at three especially now that the 4 spot is congested

  • Scott wasn’t hired for Kobe. If Kobe had it his way, we’d have Phil the year we had D.Coward, Shaw when Phil stepped down, and so on. Kobe never is consulted on decisions with the team (coaching or signings or trades). Kobe’s wishes has never been granted by the FO. This signing to me was because a who else is there to get. Remember the Lakers interviewed Scott 3-4 times which shows you that they may have not wanted Scott. Thibs was still coaching the Bulls, Scott Brooks was still coaching OKC, Fisher went to NYC, Kerr wasn’t going to coach us, and Kevin Ollie was dedicated to UCONN, so the options were really limited. I don’t know if I like Scott’s coaching or not, but his style is always beneficial to guards (Kidd, CP3, Irving, Clarkson, and hopefully Russell) so that could be a reason they signed Scott, but not for Kobe.

  • Scott wasn’t hired for Kobe. If Kobe had it his way, we’d have Phil the year we had D.Coward, Shaw when Phil stepped down, and so on. Kobe never is consulted on decisions with the team (coaching or signings or trades). Kobe’s wishes has never been granted by the FO. This signing to me was because a who else is there to get. Remember the Lakers interviewed Scott 3-4 times which shows you that they may have not wanted Scott. Thibs was still coaching the Bulls, Scott Brooks was still coaching OKC, Fisher went to NYC, Kerr wasn’t going to coach us, and Kevin Ollie was dedicated to UCONN, so the options were really limited. I don’t know if I like Scott’s coaching or not, but his style is always beneficial to guards (Kidd, CP3, Irving, Clarkson, and hopefully Russell) so that could be a reason they signed Scott, but not for Kobe.

  • Why can’t you just stick to the Clipper account. I’m really tired of your ass switching back and forth between accounts

  • Why can’t you just stick to the Clipper account. I’m really tired of your ass switching back and forth between accounts

  • I hear you and I don’t think his form or mechanics will change as much as his dieting, conditioning and attack mentality.

    I understand he disappointed many in summer league and preseason game one but those games are honestly irrelevant and exhibit players desperately playing for both minutes and a roster spots than they do team mentality.

    The D’angelo Russell from Ohio state, the flashy passer and great shooter proved himself night in and night out against his peers now he has to elevate to the next level after a long basketball break. Now he has to go up against grown men who have put in more work than him at the moment. But the kid has something th unique and untraceable, he has vision man and he is the key to this squad and fun basketball coming back to Los Angeles.

    I really believe once he grows into his body and gets in NBA shape, and dominates the ball more he will and the lakers will see success. If anything certain players need to go because they’re too “me focused” we need defensive minded slashers. Guys like Trevor Aliza and Shannon brown, green from the heat. Maybe some perimeter shooters and a more pick and roll/motion offense approach. Imagine if randle took his open jumpers in rhythm, if hibbert didn’t babble to good looks from Russel and Kobe made that open free thrown line extended jumper which is his bread and butter. Russell would’ve finished with 7 assists and 2 turnovers in 21 minutes.

  • I hear you and I don’t think his form or mechanics will change as much as his dieting, conditioning and attack mentality.

    I understand he disappointed many in summer league and preseason game one but those games are honestly irrelevant and exhibit players desperately playing for both minutes and a roster spots than they do team mentality.

    The D’angelo Russell from Ohio state, the flashy passer and great shooter proved himself night in and night out against his peers now he has to elevate to the next level after a long basketball break. Now he has to go up against grown men who have put in more work than him at the moment. But the kid has something th unique and untraceable, he has vision man and he is the key to this squad and fun basketball coming back to Los Angeles.

    I really believe once he grows into his body and gets in NBA shape, and dominates the ball more he will and the lakers will see success. If anything certain players need to go because they’re too “me focused” we need defensive minded slashers. Guys like Trevor Aliza and Shannon brown, green from the heat. Maybe some perimeter shooters and a more pick and roll/motion offense approach. Imagine if randle took his open jumpers in rhythm, if hibbert didn’t babble to good looks from Russel and Kobe made that open free thrown line extended jumper which is his bread and butter. Russell would’ve finished with 7 assists and 2 turnovers in 21 minutes.

  • For me it’s about competitiveness (W&L), however, just b/c one wants to see the best product on the floor from the start of the season it don’t mean that development of the youth should be put back. it’s more about setting the tone for the youth with relation to what it takes to win from the start while they development at the same time. I’d expect Russ be starting by mid December if he came off the bench at the start of the regular season.

  • For me it’s about competitiveness (W&L), however, just b/c one wants to see the best product on the floor from the start of the season it don’t mean that development of the youth should be put back.

    It’s more about setting the tone for the youth with relation to what it takes to win from the start while they develop at the same time. I’d expect Russ would be starting by mid December if he came off the bench at the start of the regular season.

  • They lacked energy in the 4th, but let’s see what put together in the next game vs the jazz.

  • They lacked energy in the 4th, but let’s see what put together in the next game vs the jazz.

  • Just about what this game said, nothing. Because when teams are working to see what different lineups work well together there won’t be a lot of consistency to gauge things from. That is the advantage teams that have been playing together longer have over the Lakers. They already have chemistry, trust, confidence, and a comfort level. The coach and the players are already on the same page. The Lakers have to first all get a grip on what the coach wants on both offense and defense. Then they must get to know each others tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. The coach needs to know those things too.

    There will be no short cuts. But each game the players are getting to understand how each other processes things under duress at high velocities. It’s hard to gauge one game from another because different teams will present different match ups. Some teams the Lakers may find they have a few matchup advantages. And other teams they may not matchup well and need to rotate a player who may be faster or a player who may be more experienced.

    We won’t know how good the team is until they get a smaller rotation.
    I think the coach used 13 players in the first game. He may use 13 vin the second game or perhaps 15 if more re healthy.

    But you can bet come regular season that rotation will at first be about 11 or 12 and then slowly move to between 10 -12.

    If the Lakers make the playoffs that rotation may go down to 8-10
    depending on what the tempo of the game is and the team they are playing.

    I’m not sure if that will make sense to all. But to sum it up…….

    It will take a bit of time for the Lakers to all get on the same page. And there will be some ups and downs until that happens. Once they get on the same page they will start to build trust, chemistry, and confidence. Once they are confident everyone will take them more seriously and they’ll be a good team.

    Paytc

  • Just about what this game said, nothing. Because when teams are working to see what different lineups work well together there won’t be a lot of consistency to gauge things from. That is the advantage teams that have been playing together longer have over the Lakers. They already have chemistry, trust, confidence, and a comfort level. Consistency is what helps a team gel. The coach and the players are already on the same page. The Lakers have to first all get a grip on what the coach wants on both offense and defense. Then they must get to know each others tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. The coach needs to know those things too. Repetition with the same players helps build consistency or patterns to gauge from. You build from that point.

    There will be no short cuts. But each game the players are getting to understand how each other processes things under duress at high velocities. It’s hard to gauge one game from another because different teams will present different match ups. Some teams the Lakers may find they have a few matchup advantages. And other teams they may not matchup well and need to rotate a player who may be faster or a player who may be more experienced.

    We won’t know how good the team is until they get a smaller rotation.
    I think the coach used 13 players in the first game. He may use 13 in the second game or perhaps 15 if more are healthy.

    But you can bet come regular season that rotation will at first be about 11 or 12 and then slowly move to between 10 -12.

    If the Lakers make the playoffs that rotation may go down to 8-10
    depending on what the tempo of the game is and the team they are playing.

    I’m not sure if that will make sense to all. But to sum it up…….

    It will take a bit of time for the Lakers to all get on the same page. And there will be some ups and downs until that happens. Once they get on the same page they will start to build trust, chemistry, and confidence. Once they are confident everyone will take them more seriously and they’ll be a good team. How long that takes is the million dollar question? We know the Laker hating media will do all they can to make it more challenging. But they won’t stop it.

    Go Lakers !

    Paytc

  • There is more than my point of view, so I can see your point…. Open minds are good…. At least the Lakers now have choices

  • There is more than my point of view, so I can see your point…. Open minds are good…. At least the Lakers now have choices

  • Lmao if you think in today’s NBA a 2 guard shouldn’t have playmaking ability your lost.

  • Lmao if you think in today’s NBA a 2 guard shouldn’t have playmaking ability your lost.

  • I’ve been saying that as well. Mainly I think Bass and Hibbert make a better defensive tandem, and should be kept together. Throwing Hibbert out there on an island as the only rim protector is just going to wear him out, and eventually he’ll stop trying as hard. And Randle seems like he could fit well as the two main scoring options along with Williams in the second unit.

  • I’ve been saying that as well. Mainly I think Bass and Hibbert make a better defensive tandem, and should be kept together. Throwing Hibbert out there on an island as the only rim protector is just going to wear him out, and eventually he’ll stop trying as hard. And Randle seems like he could fit well as the two main scoring options along with Williams in the second unit.

  • Your starting 2 guards and your 6th man type 2 guards you will typically see it. Your niche type 2 guards who are usually the 3rd guy off the bench, not so much so no, I’m not lost. Not every 2 guard in the league is capable of playmaking. In fact, you look at the benches of some of the 2 guards in the league and what they’re good at is usually some occassional defense, spot up shooting and 3’s and if not that, just simply shooting and making 3’s. It’s why they’re bench guys and not starters. I don’t forsee Brown as ever being a starter on a team. I think he’ll always be an 8-12 guy off the bench.

    He’s a pure shooter, not a combo guard. Defense isn’t his strength either. The guy is there to stretch the floor, get some buckets in limited minutes and not much else.

  • Your starting 2 guards and your 6th man type 2 guards you will typically see it. Your niche type 2 guards who are usually the 3rd guy off the bench, not so much so no, I’m not lost. Not every 2 guard in the league is capable of playmaking. In fact, you look at the benches of some of the 2 guards in the league and what they’re good at is usually some occassional defense, spot up shooting and 3’s and if not that, just simply shooting and making 3’s. It’s why they’re bench guys and not starters. I don’t forsee Brown as ever being a starter on a team. I think he’ll always be an 8-12 guy off the bench.

    He’s a pure shooter, not a combo guard. Defense isn’t his strength either. The guy is there to stretch the floor, get some buckets in limited minutes and not much else.

  • Randle was actually blocking shots out ther do if they switch it’ll be because offense but randle is mostly off do it should come around

  • Randle was actually blocking shots out ther do if they switch it’ll be because offense but randle is mostly off do it should come around

  • Randle is unstoppable driving from the 3 line so that why he does it but I think he just gets tired way too fast..

  • Randle is unstoppable driving from the 3 line so that why he does it but I think he just gets tired way too fast..

  • …he is stoppable from the three point line. He outside jump shot is suspect so defenders lay off of him. By the time he decides to drive, another defender comes over and he has to throw up some wild lay-up or pass it.

    This happens quite often

  • …he is VERY stoppable from the three point line.

    He outside jump shot is suspect so defenders lay off of him. By the time he decides to drive, another defender comes over and he has to throw up some wild lay-up or pass it.

    This happens quite often

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