Kobe Bryant, Robert Upshaw, Byron Scott After Lakers Vs. Raptors (VIDEOS)
Kobe Bryant, Robert Upshaw, Byron Scott After Lakers Vs. Raptors (videos)

The Los Angeles Lakers lost their third preseason game against the Toronto Raptors on Thursday night, 105-97. Robert Upshaw and Jonathan Holmes both made their preseason debuts, and head coach Byron Scott said he thought both looked nervous and made mistakes, but that he expected that in their first game.

Julius Randle shined once again with his 17 points on a 7-of-10 clip, with five rebounds and three assists and a couple of flashy plays that had everyone impressed with his ability to handle the ball at his size. Kobe Bryant finished the night after playing a little over 21 minutes and finishing with 16 points, 5-of-11 shooting, three assists, three rebounds and two steals.

The Lakers will have the day off on Friday and practice Saturday before resuming their preseason action at Staples Center against the Maccabi Haifa at 6:30 PM PST. Scott hopes the Lakers do a much better job of containing the dribble. Check out all of the post-game videos below.

Robert Upshaw After His Lakers Preseason Debut

Kobe Bryant On Julius Randle: ‘He Can Do Everything’

Byron Scott On Robert Upshaw Debut, Nick Young Starting, Kobe’s Minutes

Kobe Bryant On ESPN Ranking Him No. 93

Gotta say I’m rooting for Upshaw to have a career with Lakers. Looks better and sounds better. Hope the team gives hima chance even if it’s the Dleague. Better to have an Upshaw to call up if/when the injury bug thins the bigs.

  • Gotta say I’m rooting for Upshaw to have a career with Lakers. Looks better and sounds better. Hope the team gives hima chance even if it’s the Dleague. Better to have an Upshaw to call up if/when the injury bug thins the bigs.

  • Over all it was a fair game and only loosing by 8 with all the new guys getting their chances, not bad at all I looked at it as the Klappers played Toronto and lost by 20 and we only lost by 8 AND WE PLAYED most of our new guys in the 4 th qtr. Upshaw had his chance and did not look bad and had 2 blks , that is what he was there for..

  • Over all it was a fair game and only loosing by 8 with all the new guys getting their chances, not bad at all I looked at it as the Klappers played Toronto and lost by 20 and we only lost by 8 AND WE PLAYED most of our new guys in the 4 th qtr. Upshaw had his chance and did not look bad and had 2 blks , that is what he was there for..

  • Randle is at LEAST going to get 15 pts 7rbs 3 ass this year. Future is looking very promising for him. I predict a second year all-star birth for him as well. You cant handle Randle! lol

  • Randle is at LEAST going to get 15 pts 7rbs 3 ass this year. Future is looking very promising for him. I predict a second year all-star birth for him as well. You cant handle Randle! lol

  • Upshaw looked like a project last night but, to his credit, he’s still saying all the right things. Seems like he gets it and would be worth committing a roster spot to him and sending him to the d-league to play every day.

  • Upshaw looked like a project last night but, to his credit, he’s still saying all the right things. Seems like he gets it and would be worth committing a roster spot to him and sending him to the d-league to play every day.

  • 12 active roster spot for the Lakers:
    Kobe, Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Hibbert, Young, Williams, Bass are locks — that’s 8
    Huertas and Black should make it — that’s 10

    That leaves two more roster spots, neither of which are likely to see much PT — I’d go forward (MWP) and center (Upshaw) and send Upshaw to the d-league.

  • 12 active roster spot for the Lakers:
    Kobe, Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Hibbert, Young, Williams, Bass are locks — that’s 8
    Huertas and Black should make it — that’s 10

    That leaves two more roster spots, neither of which are likely to see much PT — I’d go forward (Nance, Jr or A. Brown) and center (Upshaw) and send Upshaw to the d-league.

    EDIT: swapping MWP for Nance, Jr or A. Brown

  • I’m not one to bash on the Lakers FO, I’m usually in favor of any move they make but the more I watch Anthony Brown and Larry Nance the more I wonder why we didn’t take looney, Powell or some of the other guys who were still on the board. Oh well time will tell

  • I’m not one to bash on the Lakers FO, I’m usually in favor of any move they make but the more I watch Anthony Brown and Larry Nance the more I wonder why we didn’t take looney, Powell or some of the other guys who were still on the board. Oh well time will tell

  • I genuinely did think that signing World Peace wansnt the best option but he looked good and I think his veteran Presence and intensity can really benefit the Lakers

  • I genuinely did think that signing World Peace wansnt the best option but he looked good and I think his veteran Presence and intensity can really benefit the Lakers

  • He seems like a new man. More mature in the locker room, playing with a great deal of energy, and is more honest with himself and us. His postgame interview was really eye opening for me. His mentoring Randle in the off season has really been on display the last few games. I think MWP makes the team because of the energy he’ll bring on the court for short spurts really changes the emotion in which the Lakers play in and he’s a great vet for these young guys. The only thing I don’t want to see is Metta shoot jump shots. His last few seasons he wasn’t a great shooter for us, and last night didn’t really shoot too well. Metta should just look to get his shots in the paint or close midrange

  • He seems like a new man. More mature in the locker room, playing with a great deal of energy, and is more honest with himself and us. His postgame interview was really eye opening for me. His mentoring Randle in the off season has really been on display the last few games. I think MWP makes the team because of the energy he’ll bring on the court for short spurts really changes the emotion in which the Lakers play in and he’s a great vet for these young guys. The only thing I don’t want to see is Metta shoot jump shots. His last few seasons he wasn’t a great shooter for us, and last night didn’t really shoot too well. Metta should just look to get his shots in the paint or close midrange

  • Exactly! I can really see him being a mental rock in games where the momentum and atmosphere start to shift

  • Exactly! I can really see him being a mental rock in games where the momentum and atmosphere start to shift

  • They need time to gel to the NBA game. They’re project players when you draft that low. They aren’t going to show anything really for at least 3 years.

  • They need time to gel to the NBA game. They’re project players when you draft that low. They aren’t going to show anything really for at least 3 years.

  • He looked like a project, but he also did more than Sacre has done for this team in his time here. Some of those shots he made, Sacre would more than likely miss. The blocks, the defense, the mobility and rotation, he’s head and shoulders above Sacre and he’s a project.

  • He looked like a project, but he also did more than Sacre has done for this team in his time here. Some of those shots he made, Sacre would more than likely miss. The blocks, the defense, the mobility and rotation, he’s head and shoulders above Sacre and he’s a project.

  • 6pts on 3-4 shooting 3 reb 1 ast and 2blks. He looked good out there. Lost on occasion, sometimes late, but the instincts were there. What he needs is time. The few touches he got he displayed some nice offense. You can see this guy has it in him to be something good. The Lakers need to keep hold of him and develop him. Have him work with Kareem like Bynum did on his post game.

  • 6pts on 3-4 shooting 3 reb 1 ast and 2blks. He looked good out there. Lost on occasion, sometimes late, but the instincts were there. What he needs is time. The few touches he got he displayed some nice offense. You can see this guy has it in him to be something good. The Lakers need to keep hold of him and develop him. Have him work with Kareem like Bynum did on his post game.

  • 12 active spots, as in what you can bring with you to a game. A team can sign up to 15 players for the season, 12 active and 3 inactive. The 2 of the 3 inactives can be assigned to the D-League.

    Kobe, Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Hibbert, Young, Williams, Bass, A Brown and Nance Jr are all locks. The last 2 are on 3 year deals, the first 2 guaranteed. That’s 10. From there you add Huertas, Black, Upshaw, MWP at the least. That gives you 14 with a free spot to add someone later if or when needed.

    You can then assign Upshaw and either Brown or Nance to the D-League. I think Upshaw though would be better suited staying with the team honestly and working with Hibbert on defense and the Lakers bringing in Kareem to work with him on offense. What he gains in practice early on I think will be more valuable than what he can get in the D-League right now when I think about it. Send Nance and Brown down.

  • 12 active spots, as in what you can bring with you to a game. A team can sign up to 15 players for the season, 12 active and 3 inactive. The 2 of the 3 inactives can be assigned to the D-League.

    Kobe, Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Hibbert, Young, Williams, Bass, A Brown and Nance Jr are all locks. The last 2 are on 3 year deals, the first 2 guaranteed. That’s 10. From there you add Huertas, Black, Upshaw, MWP at the least. That gives you 14 with a free spot to add someone later if or when needed.

    You can then assign Upshaw and either Brown or Nance to the D-League. I think Upshaw though would be better suited staying with the team honestly and working with Hibbert on defense and the Lakers bringing in Kareem to work with him on offense. What he gains in practice early on I think will be more valuable than what he can get in the D-League right now when I think about it. Send Nance and Brown down.

  • could not agree more. he needs more playing time. i really think he could become a great back up center. he has more talent than sacre and it’s not close.

  • could not agree more. he needs more playing time. i really think he could become a great back up center. he has more talent than sacre and it’s not close.

  • Not just a great backup center, I think in 3-5 years he could be a really good starting center.

  • Not just a great backup center, I think in 3-5 years he could be a really good starting center.

  • A little extra tidbit, Summer League, Upshaw could barely stay on the floor a few minutes. You could see that the talent was there, but the conditioning was shot. Last night he was on the floor for 25 minutes. Just sayin.

  • A little extra tidbit, Summer League, Upshaw could barely stay on the floor a few minutes. You could see that the talent was there, but the conditioning was shot. Last night he was on the floor for 25 minutes. Just sayin.

  • I think they should bring him in as a consultant…not sure if it’s worth the roster spot.

  • so much of it is up to upshaw himself. if he works hard and cuts out all of the other BS.. he could be great.

  • I think they should bring him in as a consultant…not sure if it’s worth the roster spot.

  • so much of it is up to upshaw himself. if he works hard and cuts out all of the other BS.. he could be great.

  • His defense and the defensive energy he brings makes him worth a roster spot. Putting him in at SF at moments beside Randle with Metta providing the defensive leadership for Randle to learn and feed off of is reason he’s worth a spot. His legs look fresh and younger. He’s active, his hands are there.

  • I’d wouldn’t use an inactive spot on Upshaw, I’d use it on Holmes, Frazier and Brown.

    It’s not like they’ll need a 12-man rotation anyway; if somebody gets hurt, they can bring him up without deactivating anybody else.

  • His defense and the defensive energy he brings makes him worth a roster spot. Putting him in at SF at moments beside Randle with Metta providing the defensive leadership for Randle to learn and feed off of is reason he’s worth a spot. His legs look fresh and younger. He’s active, his hands are there.

  • I’d wouldn’t use an inactive spot on Upshaw, I’d use it on Holmes, Frazier and Brown.

    It’s not like they’ll need a 12-man rotation anyway; if somebody gets hurt, they can bring him up without deactivating anybody else.

  • Every team brings 12 men with them unless there are extensive injuries, etc. Your typical rotation is 8-9 guys with the 3 to 4 at the end of the bench just sitting.Based on what I’ve said, there is no room for Holmes and Frazier unless you have a full compliment of 15 players signed. Something I doubt the Lakers do right now. I’ve not been impressed with Jabari Brown or Frazier right now.

  • @vdogg — That’s why I’d give Upshaw and active roster spot but assign him to the D-league.

    The message: we believe in you and have a spot waiting for you…the rest is in your hands.

  • Every team brings 12 men with them unless there are extensive injuries, etc. Your typical rotation is 8-9 guys with the 3 to 4 at the end of the bench just sitting.Based on what I’ve said, there is no room for Holmes and Frazier unless you have a full compliment of 15 players signed. Something I doubt the Lakers do right now. I’ve not been impressed with Jabari Brown or Frazier right now.

  • @vdogg — That’s why I’d give Upshaw and active roster spot but assign him to the D-league.

    The message: we believe in you and have a spot waiting for you…the rest is in your hands.

  • so who would be our third center then — sacre?? LOL. besides, another NBA team could sign upshaw from our D league squad. look, a lot depends on how hard this kid works and how much he develops… but i think he has a chance to stick on the lakers this year at the third center spot.

  • so who would be our third center then — sacre?? LOL. besides, another NBA team could sign upshaw from our D league squad. look, a lot depends on how hard this kid works and how much he develops… but i think he has a chance to stick on the lakers this year at the third center spot.

  • Upshaw only needs gametime and reps. Even all star players that don’t play a lot of basketball for a while always say the same thing when they first get back on the court: “I just need to get my timing back”. He’s had one game back and although he was understandably off at times, he still makes better impact than Sacre who has three years of nba under his belt. What does that tell you? There’s no competition there. Only a buffoon would keep worthless Sacre over him.

  • Upshaw only needs gametime and reps. Even all star players that don’t play a lot of basketball for a while always say the same thing when they first get back on the court: “I just need to get my timing back”. He’s had one game back and although he was understandably off at times, he still makes better impact than Sacre who has three years of nba under his belt. What does that tell you? There’s no competition there. Only a buffoon would keep worthless Sacre over him.

  • Before we signed Metta I saw both sides of the argument but because this time around he was gonna have a different role as a mentor for Randle and some of the young guys and energy bench player, I felt it would be a positive thing having him. Just needs to play D and his bully ball and leave the 3 point shots to other guys.

  • Before we signed Metta I saw both sides of the argument but because this time around he was gonna have a different role as a mentor for Randle and some of the young guys and energy bench player, I felt it would be a positive thing having him. Just needs to play D and his bully ball and leave the 3 point shots to other guys.

  • @vdogg — I should start off by saying I’m a firm believer that the D-League is an asset that should be used to develop talent, not a dump for unwanted players. They can play everyday and work on their fundamentals — that’s hard to do in the daily grind of the NBA schedule.

    Lakers retain his rights as long as he is under contract, whether he has an active roster spot or not…even if they assign him to the D-League.

    But yeah, Sacre is a career third-stringer who can take fouls with the best of them….at least until Upshaw is ready. If Upshaw improves quickly enough they can simply cut Sacre.

  • @vdogg — I should start off by saying I’m a firm believer that the D-League is an asset that should be used to develop talent, not a dump for unwanted players. They can play everyday and work on their fundamentals — that’s hard to do in the daily grind of the NBA schedule.

    Lakers retain his rights as long as he is under contract, whether he has an active roster spot or not…even if they assign him to the D-League.

    But yeah, Sacre is a career third-stringer who can take fouls with the best of them….at least until Upshaw is ready. If Upshaw improves quickly enough they can simply cut Sacre. Or just go small and give Sacre’s roster spot to a Forward.

    Bottom line is that Upshaw needs A LOT of work and I’m not sure he’ll get it in the NBA.

  • @vdogg — per NBA website they can retain his rights and recall him as often as they want….but they have to commit to him (which I think they should).

    The question is do you give him an active roster spot or keep him inactive? I think he would be more motivated by an active roster spot and could even be called up for regular duty by February in a perfect world.

  • @vdogg — per NBA website they can retain his rights and recall him as often as they want….but they have to commit to him (which I think they should).

    The question is do you give him an active roster spot or keep him inactive? I think he would be more motivated by an active roster spot and could even be called up for regular duty by February in a perfect world.

  • short sighted, you understand we’ve been badly out matched at the SF position more than any other position on the team?
    Metta would be our best defender at the SF if he makes the final roster spot, he’s 35 and will look worse when we’re 30-40 games into the season when we’re repeatedly getting burned by opposing team’s best SF.

  • short sighted, you understand we’ve been badly out matched at the SF position more than any other position on the team?
    Metta would be our best defender at the SF if he makes the final roster spot, he’s 35 and will look worse when we’re 30-40 games into the season when we’re repeatedly getting burned by opposing team’s best SF.

  • keep him inactive and let him play in the d league, the active roster is 12 man deep and if someone gets hurt he can always become activated to play.

    No reason for him not to be motivated in the d league and he is getting paid nearly a million; more money than he’s ever had in his life. If he showed little motivation in d league then we know he’s not worth the head ache.

  • keep him inactive and let him play in the d league, the active roster is 12 man deep and if someone gets hurt he can always become activated to play.

    No reason for him not to be motivated in the d league and he is getting paid nearly a million; more money than he’s ever had in his life. If he showed little motivation in d league then we know he’s not worth the head ache.

  • I really like what I saw from Upshaw.

    The nerves were obviously affecting his game but hes extremely agile for a big guy and his elevation is unquestionable.

    For not having much pick and roll experience, he looked decent trying to set up a few plays.

  • I really like what I saw from Upshaw.

    The nerves were obviously affecting his game but hes extremely agile for a big guy and his elevation is unquestionable.

    For not having much pick and roll experience, he looked decent trying to set up a few plays.

  • @david — therein lies the problem…..I think most would agree he won’t be an impact player over the entire season, which means you have to try to place a value on his leadership and locker-room presence.

    I’d rather go with a younger player, myself, but I “get” the argument for him.

  • Disagree, Upshaw is more deserving and looks at least more more promising than Frazier and Holmes.

  • @david — therein lies the problem…..I think most would agree he won’t be an impact player over the entire season, which means you have to try to place a value on his leadership and locker-room presence.

    I’d rather go with a younger player, myself, but I “get” the argument for him.

  • Disagree, Upshaw is more deserving and looks at least more more promising than Frazier and Holmes.

  • I get it too but people have to weigh the positives and negatives; and the positive is his influence on other players and I agree he can do that as a coach.

    Look at the Jazz and Raptors game, Burk,Hayward, and Carroll had their way anywhere and anytime when they were on the floor regardless of Metta’s presence. We’re better off using that roster spot to develop A. Brown who is on the bubble if Metta goes in. There is just not a lot of room left for many fringe young players but Brown has upside.

  • I get it too but people have to weigh the positives and negatives; and the positive is his influence on other players and I agree he can do that as a coach.

    Look at the Jazz and Raptors game, Burk,Hayward, and Carroll had their way anywhere and anytime when they were on the floor regardless of Metta’s presence. We’re better off using that roster spot to develop A. Brown who is on the bubble if Metta goes in. There is just not a lot of room left for many fringe young players but Brown has upside.

  • @Laker — yeah, that’s what I’m saying…give Upshaw an active spot and keep those others inactive.

    Holmes looked rough but he also led the team in rebounds and, after the game, BGJ say he’s a grinder in practice. I’d keep in the stable for the season…may be ready by next year.

  • @Laker — yeah, that’s what I’m saying…give Upshaw an active spot and keep those others inactive.

    Holmes looked rough but he also led the team in rebounds and, after the game, BGJ say he’s a grinder in practice. I’d keep in the stable for the season…may be ready by next year.

  • We haven’t been outmatched at the SF position, we’ve been outmatched typically when our end of the bench guys have been on the floor, guys who we’re getting a look at. Kobe has been the SF and so far he’s been matching pretty well against guys. Teams they’ve faced, they have familiarity with each other, with plays, etc. This team, you have a lot of new faces, new names, guys learning the system, a lot of rookies on the team. We’ve been getting torched from different areas. Last night we got torched from the PG position, the game before we were hurt when our bench players hit the floor, game before that it was simply the first game for a team not used to playing together.

    There is nothing shortsighted about having Metta on the floor. NOTHING. What it does is allows him to lead our defense. To teach these young guys where to be, what to do, instilling championship level knowledge to these kids. There is nothing shortsighted on that. Nothing. You show these kids that energy, that intensity, you make it a habit for them. Nothing shortsighted about that. You might want to have a look in that mirror.

  • We haven’t been outmatched at the SF position, we’ve been outmatched typically when our end of the bench guys have been on the floor, guys who we’re getting a look at. Kobe has been the SF and so far he’s been matching pretty well against guys. Teams they’ve faced, they have familiarity with each other, with plays, etc. This team, you have a lot of new faces, new names, guys learning the system, a lot of rookies on the team. We’ve been getting torched from different areas. Last night we got torched from the PG position, the game before we were hurt when our bench players hit the floor, game before that it was simply the first game for a team not used to playing together.

    There is nothing shortsighted about having Metta on the floor. NOTHING. What it does is allows him to lead our defense. To teach these young guys where to be, what to do, instilling championship level knowledge to these kids. There is nothing shortsighted on that. Nothing. You show these kids that energy, that intensity, you make it a habit for them. Nothing shortsighted about that. You might want to have a look in that mirror.

  • @david — Agreed. I know A. Brown was injured, but he’s been a bit underwhelming so far….hope to see more from him over the next two weeks.

  • @david — Agreed. I know A. Brown was injured, but he’s been a bit underwhelming so far….hope to see more from him over the next two weeks.

  • “Kobe has been the SF and so far he’s been matching pretty well against guys”

    and I have a bridge to sell you. Hayward ran circles around Kobe; you’re trying to find excuses but they are lacking.

    “We’ve been getting torched from different areas. Last night we got torched from the PG position”

    We didn’t have our two best at their positions; again you’re justifying your position of weakness by making excuses that are lacking in merit. The worse position we’re torched at was at SF and that was my point….period.

  • I see several of these young kids getting standing ovations someday in the next few years. Hope they can feel it coming to. Keep running them B.s.:-)

  • “Kobe has been the SF and so far he’s been matching pretty well against guys”

    and I have a bridge to sell you. Hayward ran circles around Kobe; you’re trying to find excuses but they are lacking.

    “We’ve been getting torched from different areas. Last night we got torched from the PG position”

    We didn’t have our two best at their positions; again you’re justifying your position of weakness by making excuses that are lacking in merit. The worse position we’re torched at was at SF and that was my point….period.

  • I see several of these young kids getting standing ovations someday in the next few years. Hope they can feel it coming to. Keep running them B.s.:-)

  • We need to drop Sacre quickly… Upshaw has so much more potential. He had 2 blocks last night. Just needs more reps… What ya’ll think?

  • We need to drop Sacre quickly… Upshaw has so much more potential. He had 2 blocks last night. Just needs more reps… What ya’ll think?

  • Drop Black. Hibbert/Sacre/Upshaw at center. can also go small with Randle or Bass playing center at times

  • Drop Black. Hibbert/Sacre/Upshaw at center. can also go small with Randle or Bass playing center at times

  • You’re the only person in the world who thinks Sacre deserves to stay on the roster….

  • You’re the only person in the world who thinks Sacre deserves to stay on the roster….

    Edit: Black is 100x better than Sacre, what’s your beef with him?

  • Upshaw – “ROOKIE OF THE YEAR” (2015-2016). Rim Protector, Shot Blocker – LA All time; TWIN TOWERS Baby.

  • Upshaw – “ROOKIE OF THE YEAR” (2015-2016). Rim Protector, Shot Blocker – LA All time; TWIN TOWERS Baby.

  • I’m trying to find excuses? Really? So because Gordon Hayward, one of the better players for Utah who went 4-10 in the first game and 1-3 in the next game (numbers that just jump out on the page and make me look soooooo silly, 5-13) suddenly I’m making excuses? Over those 2 games Kobe was 6-14, 1-5 in the first game and 5-9 in the second game (which those second game numbers says he did better than Hayward) and only played the first 12 minutes of the first game.

    Lowry made the team look silly last night and that would have happened regardless of whether it was Clarkson or Russell was guarding him. Lowry is Lowry. Game 2 against Utah we got torched by Alec Burks 9-14 27pts and Trey Burke 6-12 15pts. Game 1 against Utah it was their C and PF who were the more efficient scorers. Hood had a decent 7-16 in game 2 but was 1-9 in game 1. I’m not seeing the evidence that suggest that our SF spot is as bad as you’re claiming it is.

  • I’m trying to find excuses? Really? So because Gordon Hayward, one of the better players for Utah who went 4-10 in the first game and 1-3 in the next game (numbers that just jump out on the page and make me look soooooo silly, 5-13) suddenly I’m making excuses? Over those 2 games Kobe was 6-14, 1-5 in the first game and 5-9 in the second game (which those second game numbers says he did better than Hayward) and only played the first 12 minutes of the first game.

    Lowry made the team look silly last night and that would have happened regardless of whether it was Clarkson or Russell was guarding him. Lowry is Lowry. Game 2 against Utah we got torched by Alec Burks 9-14 27pts and Trey Burke 6-12 15pts. Game 1 against Utah it was their C and PF who were the more efficient scorers. Hood had a decent 7-16 in game 2 but was 1-9 in game 1. I’m not seeing the evidence that suggest that our SF spot is as bad as you’re claiming it is.

  • I think that this is a test of the Laker FO’s and coaches. If they send Upshaw to the D-League or cut him, I will finally give up on them.

  • I think that this is a test of the Laker FO’s and coaches. If they send Upshaw to the D-League or cut him, I will finally give up on them.

  • Big Up, is ROOKIE OF THE YEAR – 2015 – 2016. KB has been waiting, for a
    long time for TWIN TOWER rim protection. Guy is 21 yo, Highly talented,
    by
    next game UPSHAW will perform better, and better every game. Can You
    even begin to imagine how much KB is thankful for having Upshaw and
    Hibbert backing him up??

  • Big Up, is ROOKIE OF THE YEAR – 2015 – 2016. KB has been waiting, for a
    long time for TWIN TOWER rim protection. Guy is 21 yo, Highly talented,
    by
    next game UPSHAW will perform better, and better every game. Can You
    even begin to imagine how much KB is thankful for having Upshaw and
    Hibbert backing him up??

  • KB must be thankful for the Ultimate Rim Protection, with the Twin Towers, FINALLY. I’ve been a Laker fan when the Big Dipper was here, now KB has two !!!

  • KB must be thankful for the Ultimate Rim Protection, with the Twin Towers, FINALLY. I’ve been a Laker fan when the Big Dipper was here, now KB has two !!!

  • From a Defense position, thus far 0-3 preseason, Coach Byron has shown U guys – Hibbert with a Black, Kelly, and Scare – combo’s. What I would like to see is Hibbert with Upshaw for 12 minutes.

  • Don’t need Holmes if we have MWP, and Frazier is a long shot even though he’s a 3 point shooter. Anthony Brown can shoot the 3 just as well and can play two spots, 2 & 3.

  • From a Defense position, thus far 0-3 preseason, Coach Byron has shown U guys – Hibbert with a Black, Kelly, and Scare – combo’s. What I would like to see is Hibbert with Upshaw for 12 minutes.

  • Don’t need Holmes if we have MWP, and Frazier is a long shot even though he’s a 3 point shooter. Anthony Brown can shoot the 3 just as well and can play two spots, 2 & 3.

  • First of all stats means little to nothing in preseason when starters and youngsters are rarely even getting 20 minutes per game and teams are not necessarily teaming their best players on the floor at the same time to get a W; your starter may play 20 minutes one game and little to none the next. I could research into how efficient the team’s SF played against their rival in three games but why even bother dude.

    The true test is the eye test when you have lack of real MEANINGFUL STATS and it doesn’t take a scientist to see their starters are a step ahead of ours.

    If you think the Lakers SF is as strong as Jazz and Raptors in relativity to their other positions on their roster then that is laughable, that’s my point.

  • First of all stats means little to nothing in preseason when starters and youngsters are rarely even getting 20 minutes per game and teams are not necessarily teaming their best players on the floor at the same time to get a W; your starter may play 20 minutes one game and little to none the next. I could research into how efficient the team’s SF played against their rival in three games but why even bother dude.

    The true test is the eye test when you have lack of real MEANINGFUL STATS and it doesn’t take a scientist to see their starters are a step ahead of ours.

    If you think the Lakers SF is as strong as Jazz and Raptors in relativity to their other positions on their roster then that is laughable, that’s my point.

  • Carroll’s game lit up because Lowry and Joseph had their way with the Lakers at the PG spot. You do the things Lowry does, getting penetration and the like and it opens up the game for other players. We got torched for 43 at the PG spot last night.

    Game 2 against Utah, 7-16 from Hood and 1-3 from Hayward, that’s 8 for 19 from the field while getting torched by Utah’s back court. Even then, Hood plays the guard spot as well. Add in Game 1 with 4-10 and 1-9, 5-19 + 8-19. Mix in 6-10 from Carroll and 2-7 from Ross you have 8-17 there. 21-55 38% shooting. I wouldn’t call that getting torched. In fact, that’s below team average shooting.

    So far from what I can see, we’re getting torched at the guard spots.

  • You can’t teach height, and Upshaw is a legit 7 footer, he also has great timing and anticipation skills and can jump, that makes him a great potential shot blocker.

  • Carroll’s game lit up because Lowry and Joseph had their way with the Lakers at the PG spot. You do the things Lowry does, getting penetration and the like and it opens up the game for other players. We got torched for 43 at the PG spot last night.

    Game 2 against Utah, 7-16 from Hood and 1-3 from Hayward, that’s 8 for 19 from the field while getting torched by Utah’s back court. Even then, Hood plays the guard spot as well. Add in Game 1 with 4-10 and 1-9, 5-19 + 8-19. Mix in 6-10 from Carroll and 2-7 from Ross you have 8-17 there. 21-55 38% shooting. I wouldn’t call that getting torched. In fact, that’s below team average shooting.

    So far from what I can see, we’re getting torched at the guard spots.

  • You can’t teach height, and Upshaw is a legit 7 footer, he also has great timing and anticipation skills and can jump, that makes him a great potential shot blocker.

  • little soon to judge that, alway give them until the end of year two, then it’s much easier to tell.

  • little soon to judge that, alway give them until the end of year two, then it’s much easier to tell.

  • Who? who are all these magically studly three’s your talking about? Other than Lebron and Leonard, which EVERY team struggles with, Kobe, Metta, and Young should be just fine, if their big and strong, Randle or Lance can play for limited minutes, as can Kelly and Anthony Brown in garbage time.

  • Who? who are all these magically studly three’s your talking about? Other than Lebron and Leonard, which EVERY team struggles with, Kobe, Metta, and Young should be just fine, if their big and strong, Randle or Lance can play for limited minutes, as can Kelly and Anthony Brown in garbage time.

  • HERE WE GO AGAIN…SAME AS LAST YEAR…NO CHANGE…LOOSING IS SEEMS TO BE LAKERS IS USE TO!!
    THEY NEED A GOOD COACH IT LOOKS LIKE…SORRY BYRON, YOU ARE NOT!!! LAKERS HAVE GOOD YOUNG PLAYERS…

  • HERE WE GO AGAIN…SAME AS LAST YEAR…NO CHANGE…LOOSING IS SEEMS TO BE LAKERS IS USE TO!!
    THEY NEED A GOOD COACH IT LOOKS LIKE…SORRY BYRON, YOU ARE NOT!!! LAKERS HAVE GOOD YOUNG PLAYERS…

  • Sorry you’re a troll, I cant respect anything you post.

    You can’t troll and Kobe bash and then come back and ask to be taken seriously, it doesnt work that way.

  • The eye test tells me our roster lacks continuity. The eye test also tells what stats do, the SF spot is shooting 38% against the Lakers which doesn’t back up your claim. Heyward and Carroll aren’t subpar names either, let me remind you of that. We aren’t replacing Kobe, he’s not going to get benched just because you feels he’s inefficient.

    But regardless, this was really about Metta and what he brings “long term” to the team for someone who is claiming I’m being shortsighted. You’re still on this the Lakers winning NOW, the Lakers winning TODAY. The Lakers winning This Season. You’re missing the point. What he does these games, what he does this season doesn’t just impact this season. It impacts the next several years. What he instills in these guys on the court, in their heads, through practice and showing these guys where they should be and what they should do through his on court leadership. Worse, while being critical of what I said, you’ve really offered little of a solution or otherwise. Here I’m still talking and going with what we have, what is good with what it is. Short of a trade, we have no other solution. Here I’m thinking years down the road and you’re calling me shortsighted and criticizing me on the NOW. Take your pick, you can’t have it both ways.

  • The eye test tells me our roster lacks continuity. The eye test also tells what stats do, the SF spot is shooting 38% against the Lakers which doesn’t back up your claim. Heyward and Carroll aren’t subpar names either, let me remind you of that. We aren’t replacing Kobe, he’s not going to get benched just because you feels he’s inefficient.

    But regardless, this was really about Metta and what he brings “long term” to the team for someone who is claiming I’m being shortsighted. You’re still on this the Lakers winning NOW, the Lakers winning TODAY. The Lakers winning This Season. You’re missing the point. What he does these games, what he does this season doesn’t just impact this season. It impacts the next several years. What he instills in these guys on the court, in their heads, through practice and showing these guys where they should be and what they should do through his on court leadership. Worse, while being critical of what I said, you’ve really offered little of a solution or otherwise. Here I’m still talking and going with what we have, what is good with what it is. Short of a trade, we have no other solution. Here I’m thinking years down the road and you’re calling me shortsighted and criticizing me on the NOW. Take your pick, you can’t have it both ways.

  • Using the roster spot that A Brown already has? He’s locked on a 3 year deal. He’s going to get shipped to the D-League though. It’s J Brown who’s non guaranteed. We wouldn’t be burning A Brown’s spot for Metta.

    On top of that, don’t you think A Brown would benefit having Metta on the roster as well? A 3 and D guy benefiting from someone who used to be one of the best defenders in the league? And I’m shortsighted.

  • Using the roster spot that A Brown already has? He’s locked on a 3 year deal. He’s going to get shipped to the D-League though. It’s J Brown who’s non guaranteed. We wouldn’t be burning A Brown’s spot for Metta.

    On top of that, don’t you think A Brown would benefit having Metta on the roster as well? A 3 and D guy benefiting from someone who used to be one of the best defenders in the league? And I’m shortsighted.

  • Oh ok, my bad.

    Im still on the fence about Holmes. He looked overly anxious to prove himself and that may have ultimately caused him to look nervous and uncoordinated. But his hustle was unquestionably there. I was really hoping to see more outside shooting from Holmes.

  • Oh ok, my bad.

    Im still on the fence about Holmes. He looked overly anxious to prove himself and that may have ultimately caused him to look nervous and uncoordinated. But his hustle was unquestionably there. I was really hoping to see more outside shooting from Holmes.

  • Rather see Upshaw in Sacres spot. For sure.

    Poor Sacre, I have nothing negative against his personality but he needs allot more in order to earn that 3rd spot.

    Upshaw outshined Sacre by leaps and bounds.

  • Somehow, Gordon Haywood, Rodney Hood, DeMarre Carroll and Terrance Ross, all rotational players for the Jazz and Raptors, all shooting 38% combined is somehow torching the Lakers. What my eyes saw last night was Lowry torching us, what I saw in Utah was the Jazz guards torching us. Somehow, that means their SF’s are. *smh* doesn’t pass the smell test.

  • Rather see Upshaw in Sacres spot. For sure.

    Poor Sacre, I have nothing negative against his personality but he needs allot more in order to earn that 3rd spot.

    Upshaw outshined Sacre by leaps and bounds.

  • Somehow, Gordon Haywood, Rodney Hood, DeMarre Carroll and Terrance Ross, all rotational players for the Jazz and Raptors, all shooting 38% combined is somehow torching the Lakers. What my eyes saw last night was Lowry torching us, what I saw in Utah was the Jazz guards torching us. Somehow, that means their SF’s are. *smh* doesn’t pass the smell test.

  • If Upshaw is one of the Lakers 14-15 guys, the Lakers can assign him to the DLeague and not lose his rights because technically, he’s still a Laker. Think Clarkson last year.

  • If Upshaw is one of the Lakers 14-15 guys, the Lakers can assign him to the DLeague and not lose his rights because technically, he’s still a Laker. Think Clarkson last year.

  • He can be signed from the DFenders if he’s on a contract with the DFenders. But if he’s under contract with the Lakers and the Lakers have assigned him to the DFenders like they did with Clarkson last year, he’s still a Laker.

  • Those were good players. I guess Nance’s 46 inch vertical is what sold them on him. Who knows what else they see in Brown that we havent seen yet.

    Speaking of Brown, we havent really seen his outside shot. Thats what I want to see.

  • He can be signed from the DFenders if he’s on a contract with the DFenders. But if he’s under contract with the Lakers and the Lakers have assigned him to the DFenders like they did with Clarkson last year, he’s still a Laker.

  • Those were good players. I guess Nance’s 46 inch vertical is what sold them on him. Who knows what else they see in Brown that we havent seen yet.

    Speaking of Brown, we havent really seen his outside shot. Thats what I want to see.

  • IDK man…that’s a pretty slow front court.

    But yeah, defense needs a lot of work, especially at the perimeter.

  • IDK man…that’s a pretty slow front court.

    But yeah, defense needs a lot of work, especially at the perimeter.

  • It’s preseason, the time to test different line-ups that we’re unsure about. Also, giving rookies play time to see what they can do. We also didn’t play Huertas, Russel, Bass which will all make huge contributions throughout the season… So stop blaming Byron for trying things. We could easily play our best lineups and win.. but what would be the point of winning pre-season? that’s like winning the special olympics

  • It’s preseason, the time to test different line-ups that we’re unsure about. Also, giving rookies play time to see what they can do. We also didn’t play Huertas, Russel, Bass which will all make huge contributions throughout the season… So stop blaming Byron for trying things. We could easily play our best lineups and win.. but what would be the point of winning pre-season? that’s like winning the special olympics

  • @Lifer the only reason I wouldn’t is because Upshaw won’t have much PT as a third string center and I think that’s what he needs most right now.

  • @Lifer the only reason I wouldn’t is because Upshaw won’t have much PT as a third string center and I think that’s what he needs most right now.

  • Lowry and Burks did whatever they wanted against our defense, that’s for sure. With GS, Portland coming up, I suspect the same formula will repeat. Sacramento with Gay could be an issue at the 3 (depends on which rudy shows up), but collison is that guy who has that Lowry/Burks ability to wreck us. Too many good guards in the WC, this team has to figure it out.

  • Lowry and Burks did whatever they wanted against our defense, that’s for sure. With GS, Portland coming up, I suspect the same formula will repeat. Sacramento with Gay could be an issue at the 3 (depends on which rudy shows up), but collison is that guy who has that Lowry/Burks ability to wreck us. Too many good guards in the WC, this team has to figure it out.

  • Agreed. We could put our best line-up and win the game but right now is about seeing which players we like. There are a lot of players fighting for a place on the team and some are trying to move up on the pecking order.

    Now is the right time to be testing players to see who fits our team.

  • Agreed. We could put our best line-up and win the game but right now is about seeing which players we like. There are a lot of players fighting for a place on the team and some are trying to move up on the pecking order.

    Now is the right time to be testing players to see who fits our team.

  • Too Slow of a Front Court and they a basically the same type of player. Don’t hold your breath on this happening.

  • Too Slow of a Front Court and they a basically the same type of player. Don’t hold your breath on this happening.

  • We will see, if what you say is true, then Kobe will convince Byron and Mitch to keep him on the final roster.

    What does your final 15 look like?

  • We will see, if what you say is true, then Kobe will convince Byron and Mitch to keep him on the final roster.

    What does your final 15 look like?

  • I had to verify your numbers head to head, in the second game Hayward only played 12 minutes and Kobe had a little bit better average, here is a better bigger picture for you.

    BTW; Rodney Hood is an SG and I have Joe English in there as the third SF. he was 4/10

    First two games against by numbers at SF for both teams:

    Jazz 18/42 43%
    Lakers 16/42 38%

    3rd game
    Jazz 8/17 47%
    Lakers 6/17 35%

    Young filled in at SG so he was not included but if he was the total is 36%.

    Three games head to head:

    Jazz and Raptors: 26/59 44%
    Lakers 22/59 37%

    This is more comprehensive than yours since you want to pick your arguments with stats.
    Again statistics are meaningless at this point as i’ve stated.

  • I had to verify your numbers head to head, in the second game Hayward only played 12 minutes and Kobe had a little bit better average, here is a better bigger picture for you.

    BTW; Rodney Hood is an SG and I have Joe English in there as the third SF. he was 4/10

    First two games against by numbers at SF for both teams:

    Jazz 18/42 43%
    Lakers 16/42 38%

    3rd game
    Jazz 8/17 47%
    Lakers 6/17 35%

    Young filled in at SG so he was not included but if he was the total is 36%.

    Three games head to head:

    Jazz and Raptors: 26/59 44%
    Lakers 22/59 37%

    This is more comprehensive than yours since you want to pick your arguments with stats.
    Again statistics are meaningless at this point as i’ve stated.

  • @ BOOM SHAKA Metta World Peace – needs to come in as a consultant / player coach. not take up a roster sport , we have some tough decision as it already stands to make the team, he complicates them worse. Heck it might even come down as the 15th man, METTA VS UPSHAW.

  • I agree with Sacre over Black. Black is no Center, he’s really a PF, but with 6 PF on the team right now it’s hard to justify him having a spot. What they need is a backup Center.

  • @ BOOM SHAKA Metta World Peace – needs to come in as a consultant / player coach. not take up a roster sport , we have some tough decision as it already stands to make the team, he complicates them worse. Heck it might even come down as the 15th man, METTA VS UPSHAW.

  • I agree with Sacre over Black. Black is no Center, he’s really a PF, but with 6 PF on the team right now it’s hard to justify him having a spot. What they need is a backup Center.

  • I agree, Black isn’t the ideal candidate at Center, but when playing small ball he’s a high energy guy that despite being a little shorter, he makes up for it with his energy.

  • I agree, Black isn’t the ideal candidate at Center, but when playing small ball he’s a high energy guy that despite being a little shorter, he makes up for it with his energy.

  • I have to agree with this idea. He played well for only 1 of the 4 halves he’s been in. His lack of offense looks to cause spacing issues and his defense most times looks average. He really can’t give more than 5-10 minutes a night.

  • I have to agree with this idea. He played well for only 1 of the 4 halves he’s been in. His lack of offense looks to cause spacing issues and his defense most times looks average. He really can’t give more than 5-10 minutes a night.

  • If the LAL want to play small ball why would they play Black and not Randle? Heck I think Kelly would be a much more interesting small ball center than Black. He has legit point guard skills.

  • If the LAL want to play small ball why would they play Black and not Randle? Heck I think Kelly would be a much more interesting small ball center than Black. He has legit point guard skills.

  • LARRY NANCE JR: I’ve been OK with him so far, he just hasn’t had too much time on the floor, but i do like his potential. I’ll take him over Kelly, easy.
    – Very Atheletic
    – Good Rebounder
    – Good Defender
    – Shot Blocking
    – Improving Mid-range shot

    MY GRADE : C-

    ANTHONY BROWN – He hasn’t had too much time either but hasn’t really impressed. He offers only two skills Of which I’ will take Nick Young over him. Holmes might be more valuable at this point.
    – 3 point shooting
    – Perimeter Defense

    MY GRADE : F

  • LARRY NANCE JR: I’ve been OK with him so far, he just hasn’t had too much time on the floor, but i do like his potential. I’ll take him over Kelly, easy.
    – Very Atheletic
    – Good Rebounder
    – Good Defender
    – Shot Blocking
    – Improving Mid-range shot

    MY GRADE : C-

    ANTHONY BROWN – He hasn’t had too much time either but hasn’t really impressed. He offers only two skills Of which I’ will take Nick Young over him. Holmes might be more valuable at this point.
    – 3 point shooting
    – Perimeter Defense

    MY GRADE : F

  • “What he instills in these guys on the court, in their heads, through practice and showing these guys where they should b”

    What he brings can be done on the bench and we’re not sacrificing an old broken down player and possibly take away from a young development player in A. Brown. That’s what it’s going to come down to because they’re not keeping four positional players at SF and three of those are so old they can’t be interchangeable playing other positions. You’re taking a position away from a young player for future development so YES you are short sighted.

    “Worse, while being critical of what I said, you’ve really offered little of a solution or otherwise”

    OH Really I’ve offered no solution? I just did and it’s not the first time.

  • “What he instills in these guys on the court, in their heads, through practice and showing these guys where they should b”

    What he brings can be done on the bench and we’re not sacrificing an old broken down player and possibly take away from a young development player in A. Brown. That’s what it’s going to come down to because they’re not keeping four positional players at SF and three of those are so old they can’t be interchangeable playing other positions. You’re taking a position away from a young player for future development so YES you are short sighted.

    “Worse, while being critical of what I said, you’ve really offered little of a solution or otherwise”

    OH Really I’ve offered no solution? I just did and it’s not the first time.

  • CURIOUS WHAT YOU ALL THINK, WHO’S BETTER ???

    Sacre vs UPSHAW
    Sacre vs BLACK
    Sacre vs KELLY
    Sacre vs HOLMES
    Sacre vs LARRY NANCE JR

  • CURIOUS WHAT YOU ALL THINK, WHO’S BETTER ???

    Sacre vs UPSHAW
    Sacre vs BLACK
    Sacre vs KELLY
    Sacre vs HOLMES
    Sacre vs LARRY NANCE JR

  • Hood is a G/F. Heyward 12 min, Ingles 15 min, Cooley 3 min. Where’d the rest go? 🙂 Utah was running Trey Burke as the PG and Alec Burks as the SG even with Hood in the game at SF. Millsap was seeing minutes at the SG spot as well which means Hood had to spend his time at SF. So I picked it, I rationalized it again and I made my stats mean something AGAIN.

    But nonetheless, that still doesn’t address the shortsightedness that you seem to think I have about Metta.

  • Hood is a G/F. Heyward 12 min, Ingles 15 min, Cooley 3 min. Where’d the rest go? 🙂 Utah was running Trey Burke as the PG and Alec Burks as the SG even with Hood in the game at SF. Millsap was seeing minutes at the SG spot as well which means Hood had to spend his time at SF. So I picked it, I rationalized it again and I made my stats mean something AGAIN.

    But nonetheless, that still doesn’t address the shortsightedness that you seem to think I have about Metta.

  • A Brown isn’t well off enough to be a rotational player this year. He’s better served in practice learning from the guys or playing in the D League. No, Metta is not better served mentoring just from the bench. There is that extra something that he still brings on the floor like he did against Utah when the Lakers were down 19. They struggled, he came in, he corralled the guys and got them doing what they needed. There is only so much words can do that you sometimes still need to teach by example. You need to go out there, do it yourself, impart that into the guys.

    Also, how can you not shift the other players? Nick Young is 30. He’s still at what would be prime age. He’s not over the hill yet and plays SG as well as SF. Metta has the strength and quick hands that he can slide over to PF if needed. yet here you are saying that we got 4 guys who can’t shift around? A Brown actually had a few minutes at the SG position against Utah.

    Brown is not DAYS away from being ready for extended minutes at the SF position, nor is he weeks away. The guy has a lot of work that he needs put in. In practice, in the D League, maybe some garbage minutes in the NBA, but he’s not floor ready. That whips right back around to Metta again. Metta is floor ready now, he’s mentor ready now, he can play a role now until Brown is ready. He can be there to help Brown, help Randle, help other guys. He’s not going to see a lot of minutes. He’s not going to rob Brown of minutes that won’t be of much help. He needs D League minutes if anything. The Lakers can send him and Nance down to the D League off and on, get him game time experience there and when they have him on the main roster, have him working with Metta in practice and such. Once he’s shown he can be reliable and earns his minutes, you can shovel Metta off to the end of the bench and let Brown do his thing. It’s not that complicated. It’s not shortsighted either.

  • A Brown isn’t well off enough to be a rotational player this year. He’s better served in practice learning from the guys or playing in the D League. No, Metta is not better served mentoring just from the bench. There is that extra something that he still brings on the floor like he did against Utah when the Lakers were down 19. They struggled, he came in, he corralled the guys and got them doing what they needed. There is only so much words can do that you sometimes still need to teach by example. You need to go out there, do it yourself, impart that into the guys.

    Also, how can you not shift the other players? Nick Young is 30. He’s still at what would be prime age. He’s not over the hill yet and plays SG as well as SF. Metta has the strength and quick hands that he can slide over to PF if needed. yet here you are saying that we got 4 guys who can’t shift around? A Brown actually had a few minutes at the SG position against Utah.

    Brown is not DAYS away from being ready for extended minutes at the SF position, nor is he weeks away. The guy has a lot of work that he needs put in. In practice, in the D League, maybe some garbage minutes in the NBA, but he’s not floor ready. That whips right back around to Metta again. Metta is floor ready now, he’s mentor ready now, he can play a role now until Brown is ready. He can be there to help Brown, help Randle, help other guys. He’s not going to see a lot of minutes. He’s not going to rob Brown of minutes that won’t be of much help. He needs D League minutes if anything. The Lakers can send him and Nance down to the D League off and on, get him game time experience there and when they have him on the main roster, have him working with Metta in practice and such. Once he’s shown he can be reliable and earns his minutes, you can shovel Metta off to the end of the bench and let Brown do his thing. It’s not that complicated. It’s not shortsighted either.

  • I strongly feel that KB doesn’t have much to say, on who is kept on roster or not. Or least I wouldn’t want to tell coach and front office!! That’s a little too much for me . . . but, now do u think we have a slow front court? After I have watched, entire Summer League, and now the first three pre-season games – based on that data ALONE???? I would first like to see Upshaw / Hibbert combo, backing up KB. AND, if the finals were today, and ALL i had to go on, based on what I seen and stated above??? Depends on who were are playing of course: but for just for kicks, say it was Cavs, okay? I would start at pg Lou (dude is under control, confident, a scorer, a play maker, a true floor veteran general); Kobe (dude is deserving at a minimum three more rings before heading into Sunset, with my deadly combo of below starting five for our scenerio); Upshaw (Rookie of this year for NBA, 21 yo, showed me more in ONE game with limited min, as to what Us Laker fans get to enjoy as part of the twin tower project for this year, run for rings run); Hibbert (tiger of year); and Swag (scorer, not just any scorer but gives Us that 3 pt weapon, under control, proven championship caliber, dual role player as a F/G position). So recap: Pg Lou; F/G Swag; F Kobe, Upshaw; Hibbert. Thats five. So off the bench will be for 2015/16 season: Randal, Bass, Clarkson, Kelly, Holmes (young dude), Anthony Brown, Nance, MWP,. Thats 13. Lakers need to pick up some Quality PG, beside Sweet Lou, who has been leading Lakers in scoring, thus far. Side bar note: haven’t seen Huertas yet. What does your 15 look like? Based on what WE have been shown – kinda like, a juror in a jury trial, we can only use what has been presented. NOT what we want / hope, but ONLY what we have seen or presented with thus far.

  • I strongly feel that KB doesn’t have much to say, on who is kept on roster or not. Or least I wouldn’t want to tell coach and front office!! That’s a little too much for me . . . but, now do u think we have a slow front court? After I have watched, entire Summer League, and now the first three pre-season games – based on that data ALONE???? I would first like to see Upshaw / Hibbert combo, backing up KB. AND, if the finals were today, and ALL i had to go on, based on what I seen and stated above??? Depends on who were are playing of course: but for just for kicks, say it was Cavs, okay? I would start at pg Lou (dude is under control, confident, a scorer, a play maker, a true floor veteran general); Kobe (dude is deserving at a minimum three more rings before heading into Sunset, with my deadly combo of below starting five for our scenerio); Upshaw (Rookie of this year for NBA, 21 yo, showed me more in ONE game with limited min, as to what Us Laker fans get to enjoy as part of the twin tower project for this year, run for rings run); Hibbert (tiger of year); and Swag (scorer, not just any scorer but gives Us that 3 pt weapon, under control, proven championship caliber, dual role player as a F/G position). So recap: Pg Lou; F/G Swag; F Kobe, Upshaw; Hibbert. Thats five. So off the bench will be for 2015/16 season: Randal, Bass, Clarkson, Kelly, Holmes (young dude), Anthony Brown, Nance, MWP,. Thats 13. Lakers need to pick up some Quality PG, beside Sweet Lou, who has been leading Lakers in scoring, thus far. Side bar note: haven’t seen Huertas yet. What does your 15 look like? Based on what WE have been shown – kinda like, a juror in a jury trial, we can only use what has been presented. NOT what we want / hope, but ONLY what we have seen or presented with thus far.

  • No, a contract is a contract is a contract. It’s a matter of being on the 15 man roster. Once the deal is either partially guaranteed or fully guaranteed, whatever the case may be, so long as he’s under contract with the Lakers and the Lakers send him down for development, he’s a Laker. When the Lakers bring a D-League guy up, they have to have a roster spot free and negotiate a 10 day contract or a contract for the season, which of course they could partially guarantee depending on what time of the year it is too. But being on the roster is still on the roster. You’re in a sense, sending the player down for development, loaning the player to your D-League affiliate. Think the MLB when they send a player down for rehab to a triple A team or when they have a younger guy on the roster who may be struggling, they’ll send him to AAA to get some work in and once they’ve improved, call them back up.

  • No, a contract is a contract is a contract. It’s a matter of being on the 15 man roster. Once the deal is either partially guaranteed or fully guaranteed, whatever the case may be, so long as he’s under contract with the Lakers and the Lakers send him down for development, he’s a Laker. When the Lakers bring a D-League guy up, they have to have a roster spot free and negotiate a 10 day contract or a contract for the season, which of course they could partially guarantee depending on what time of the year it is too. But being on the roster is still on the roster. You’re in a sense, sending the player down for development, loaning the player to your D-League affiliate. Think the MLB when they send a player down for rehab to a triple A team or when they have a younger guy on the roster who may be struggling, they’ll send him to AAA to get some work in and once they’ve improved, call them back up.

  • You can’t have Burk at Sg with Hood in at the same time; they both played together a lot and Hood is more SG than SF and vice versa for Burk.

    I think it is end of discussion for now until regular season and we’ll witness teams are gonna run circles around our starters on a daily basis IF indeed Metta will be in that core of players comprising of SF.

    My guess is he won’t be but i’m praying the basketball gods give the FO some wisdom….LOL

  • You can’t have Burk at Sg with Hood in at the same time; they both played together a lot and Hood is more SG than SF and vice versa for Burk.

    I think it is end of discussion for now until regular season and we’ll witness teams are gonna run circles around our starters on a daily basis IF indeed Metta will be in that core of players comprising of SF.

    My guess is he won’t be but i’m praying the basketball gods give the FO some wisdom….LOL

  • “you can shovel Metta off to the end of the bench and let Brown do his
    thing. It’s not that complicated. It’s not shortsighted either.”

    What i”ve been telling you is there won’t be room for both on the roster and they are going to keep Kelley.

  • “you can shovel Metta off to the end of the bench and let Brown do his
    thing. It’s not that complicated. It’s not shortsighted either.”

    What i”ve been telling you is there won’t be room for both on the roster and they are going to keep Kelley.

  • Keeping Kelly would be absolutely STUPID. You’ve never straight said there wouldn’t be room on the roster either. There is room for Metta on the roster, but the Lakers need to get rid of Kelly and Sacre. Kelly is a waste of space on this team. He’s never going to get better with any significance. It’s like having Luke Walton around again, only Luke was smarter and a bit more reliable a shooter. Either way, didn’t ever significantly improve and was always hurt. Metta at least provides something to the roster other than wasting a spot.

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Kobe/Young/MWP/A Brown
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    Again, a team can keep up to 15 players on for the season, 12 active 3 inactive. That’s 14 there. Technically, you could still keep Kelly and have all 15 spots populated

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Kobe/Young/MWP/A Brown
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr/Kelly
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    But honestly I wouldn’t advise it. MWP has shown he’s far more valuable than Kelly could ever be. He can play the PF and SF spot whereas Kelly can only really play the PF spot and is totally unreliable at the SF, he’s still a better defender than Kelly and that defense alone makes him far more valuable. His knowledge, his championship experience make him an invaluable teacher on and off the court. He offers something short term but his impact on a young team like this is long term. Kelly and Suckre as far as I’m concerned are as good as gone.

  • Keeping Kelly would be absolutely STUPID. You’ve never straight said there wouldn’t be room on the roster either. There is room for Metta on the roster, but the Lakers need to get rid of Kelly and Sacre. Kelly is a waste of space on this team. He’s never going to get better with any significance. It’s like having Luke Walton around again, only Luke was smarter and a bit more reliable a shooter. Either way, didn’t ever significantly improve and was always hurt. Metta at least provides something to the roster other than wasting a spot.

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Kobe/Young/MWP/A Brown
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    Again, a team can keep up to 15 players on for the season, 12 active 3 inactive. That’s 14 there. Technically, you could still keep Kelly and have all 15 spots populated

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Kobe/Young/MWP/A Brown
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr/Kelly
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    But honestly I wouldn’t advise it. MWP has shown he’s far more valuable than Kelly could ever be. He can play the PF and SF spot whereas Kelly can only really play the PF spot and is totally unreliable at the SF, he’s still a better defender than Kelly and that defense alone makes him far more valuable. His knowledge, his championship experience make him an invaluable teacher on and off the court. He offers something short term but his impact on a young team like this is long term. Kelly and Suckre as far as I’m concerned are as good as gone.

  • I’m not expecting Metta to play a ton of minutes. Honestly I think Scott’s plan is to play Kobe 28-32 minutes and Young will take the remainder. If the defense falters badly and Scott sees the need for that to pick up, he’ll probably insert Metta to jump start the team, get them going. His minutes will be more circumstantial than anything. A Brown is going to take a while before he’s really ready to make an impact. May as well use Metta till then to stabilize the defense and impart his wisdom on the kid, help Randle with how he has been, continue to be a mental influence on Hibbert and impart his defensive wisdom on the rest of the team as well.

    Look, we both want the Lakers to do well obviously, I think about all we can do is agree to disagree. Until Kobe is gone and we can bring in someone who is a much more elite defender, that SF spot is going to continue to be a deficient defensively with no fix coming for it. Why? Kobe’s not leaving and Young is untradeable. I’m more of a hands on guy and I see the benefits of having Metta around and having opportunities on the floor. I get that some people would like to see him in an advisory role, but what if he doesn’t want to do that? Chances are he ends up overseas again or possibly with another NBA team. Then what? We lose that knowledge. Coaches and such can get into players ears, eventually players can tune that out. You show something on the floor, you do something on the floor, you make an impact and it becomes contagious. Monkey see monkey do. That 19 point deficit, erased against Utah, that wasn’t by accident. When Metta was out and Randle and Booker wrestled around, Hibbert got up in Bookers chest and got slapped, that all came about because that fire was lit. Metta cant light that fire from the bench, talking these guys ears off. That’s just the way I see it.

  • I’m not expecting Metta to play a ton of minutes. Honestly I think Scott’s plan is to play Kobe 28-32 minutes and Young will take the remainder. If the defense falters badly and Scott sees the need for that to pick up, he’ll probably insert Metta to jump start the team, get them going. His minutes will be more circumstantial than anything. A Brown is going to take a while before he’s really ready to make an impact. May as well use Metta till then to stabilize the defense and impart his wisdom on the kid, help Randle with how he has been, continue to be a mental influence on Hibbert and impart his defensive wisdom on the rest of the team as well.

    Look, we both want the Lakers to do well obviously, I think about all we can do is agree to disagree. Until Kobe is gone and we can bring in someone who is a much more elite defender, that SF spot is going to continue to be a deficient defensively with no fix coming for it. Why? Kobe’s not leaving and Young is untradeable. I’m more of a hands on guy and I see the benefits of having Metta around and having opportunities on the floor. I get that some people would like to see him in an advisory role, but what if he doesn’t want to do that? Chances are he ends up overseas again or possibly with another NBA team. Then what? We lose that knowledge. Coaches and such can get into players ears, eventually players can tune that out. You show something on the floor, you do something on the floor, you make an impact and it becomes contagious. Monkey see monkey do. That 19 point deficit, erased against Utah, that wasn’t by accident. When Metta was out and Randle and Booker wrestled around, Hibbert got up in Bookers chest and got slapped, that all came about because that fire was lit. Metta cant light that fire from the bench, talking these guys ears off. That’s just the way I see it.

  • “I get that some people would like to see him in an advisory role, but what if he doesn’t want to do that?”

    I like Metta, besides his knowledge of basketball he has also a ton of life experiences in which he can share with youth and be a positive role model. He has conquered his mental issues and has become a real fine person and one who is very humble as well. Recently he said he was fine with Mitch whatever his decision to sign him or not and they’ll remain friends; that indicate to me a person who is grateful with what he have and accomplished. Given that fact I think he can settle for a mentor role and be at peace with it. I heard he got hurt playing overseas and that could be a final determine factor for him to stay at home for good.

    If weren’t so old and had some stud at either Kobe’s or Young’s seat I would love to Have him back but that’s reality.

    We’ll see what happens.

  • “I get that some people would like to see him in an advisory role, but what if he doesn’t want to do that?”

    I like Metta, besides his knowledge of basketball he has also a ton of life experiences in which he can share with youth and be a positive role model. He has conquered his mental issues and has become a real fine person and one who is very humble as well. Recently he said he was fine with Mitch whatever his decision to sign him or not and they’ll remain friends; that indicate to me a person who is grateful with what he have and accomplished. Given that fact I think he can settle for a mentor role and be at peace with it. I heard he got hurt playing overseas and that could be a final determine factor for him to stay at home for good.

    If weren’t so old and had some stud at either Kobe’s or Young’s seat I would love to Have him back but that’s reality.

    We’ll see what happens.

  • For all those unfortunate souls like me who waded through this nonsense, yes this guy would not have DLo on the final 15 man roster. So all further attempts to ask his opinion should not be bothered with, the guy has a serious bias against DLo, for some unknown reason.

  • For all those unfortunate souls like me who waded through this nonsense, yes this guy would not have DLo on the final 15 man roster. So all further attempts to ask his opinion should not be bothered with, the guy has a serious bias against DLo, for some unknown reason.

  • I replied to u b4, that I was willing to give DR a try . . . but this is my line-up, while u and I cheer for your DR against some of the most highest most talented point guards in the entire west, not even thinking of what lies for our DR against the East. But “lets go DR”, put up or PLEASE sit down, and We HAVE TO put Sweet Lou into the lineup to save Laker Day. Again, Lou is already our leading scorer. Like I said before, I hope Lou doesn’t get insulted by coming off the bench, or lured away from Lakers by another team. GO DR cuz #Iwant2bDRfan.

  • I replied to u b4, that I was willing to give DR a try . . . but this is my line-up, while u and I cheer for your DR against some of the most highest most talented point guards in the entire west, not even thinking of what lies for our DR against the East. But “lets go DR”, put up or PLEASE sit down, and We HAVE TO put Sweet Lou into the lineup to save Laker Day. Again, Lou is already our leading scorer. Like I said before, I hope Lou doesn’t get insulted by coming off the bench, or lured away from Lakers by another team. GO DR cuz #Iwant2bDRfan.

  • So much really does depend on UPSHAW himself. He is the only one that can truly make us and the Lakers believers.

  • So much really does depend on UPSHAW himself. He is the only one that can truly make us and the Lakers believers.

  • Randle 14.5 pts, 6.5 rbs, 2.5 ast 1 stl, .75 blks Incredible numbers for a rookie. You can’t HANDLE the RANDLE.

  • Randle 14.5 pts, 6.5 rbs, 2.5 ast 1 stl, .75 blks Incredible numbers for a rookie. You can’t HANDLE the RANDLE.

  • “sweet Lou” is not a point guard. Nor is he even a starting player. If you watched the last preseason game, you’d realize this, he was absolutely torched by Cory Joseph (A career 3rd string point guard). His defense is porous and as such he must be hidden from facing any tough match ups. To put him against the West’s top point guards would be certainly bad news. DR has shown he is willing to play serious D, even as far as getting injured trying to stop a 7 footer from scoring. Your irrational hate for DR is ridiculous and quite frankly bizarre.

  • “sweet Lou” is not a point guard. Nor is he even a starting player. If you watched the last preseason game, you’d realize this, he was absolutely torched by Cory Joseph (A career 3rd string point guard). His defense is porous and as such he must be hidden from facing any tough match ups. To put him against the West’s top point guards would be certainly bad news. DR has shown he is willing to play serious D, even as far as getting injured trying to stop a 7 footer from scoring. Your irrational hate for DR is ridiculous and quite frankly bizarre.

  • Sweet Lou has 9 – 10 yrs VET experience, solid Bro. If u are seriously looking past, Mr Williams, from what Lou has shown me this past 3 pre-season, idk . . . Lou is sooo important to this yr’s team success, i’d have to say it triumphs any d league rook project, at this point. U kno, NBA TV (not sure if I believe all they say, but . .) are predicting Lakers to NOT win more then 30 games? Yeah, just finished watching NBA TV analysis of the Lakers, heard it “roll” right out their mouths . . . now they sound like someone u would listen too, and immediately say, “oh, Haters!”, “Hater”. Off the topic, a bit: I gots a quick ??? 4 u Mr. Patrick Bateman. . . have you, oh kind sir, EVER stepped foot on the Court? . . . jw, thats all . .

  • Sweet Lou has 9 – 10 yrs VET experience, solid Bro. If u are seriously looking past, Mr Williams, from what Lou has shown me this past 3 pre-season, idk . . . Lou is sooo important to this yr’s team success, i’d have to say it triumphs any d league rook project, at this point. U kno, NBA TV (not sure if I believe all they say, but . .) are predicting Lakers to NOT win more then 30 games? Yeah, just finished watching NBA TV analysis of the Lakers, heard it “roll” right out their mouths . . . now they sound like someone u would listen too, and immediately say, “oh, Haters!”, “Hater”. Off the topic, a bit: I gots a quick ??? 4 u Mr. Patrick Bateman. . . have you, oh kind sir, EVER stepped foot on the Court? . . . jw, thats all . .

  • Of course I have, back in the day when my body still worked. You obviously have some sort of Lou Williams fetish, to the point where you believe he is not a 6th man, even though he has been that his entire career. DLo is going to be a future Lakers superstar, Lou Williams will be the Lakers offense off the bench for the next 3 years. DLo will be a Laker for the next ten years at least. You need to get on board being a Laker fan and not just a Lou Williams fan.

    No one on this board, or any Laker fan will take you seriously, calling for DLo to be cut or sent to the DLeague. What kind of fan are you exactly? Are you one of those trolls masquerading as a Laker fan? Are you a butthurt 76ers fan wishing that you didn’t have to deal with another crappy draft?

  • Of course I have, back in the day when my body still worked. You obviously have some sort of Lou Williams fetish, to the point where you believe he is not a 6th man, even though he has been that his entire career. DLo is going to be a future Lakers superstar, Lou Williams will be the Lakers offense off the bench for the next 3 years. DLo will be a Laker for the next ten years at least. You need to get on board being a Laker fan and not just a Lou Williams fan.

    No one on this board, or any Laker fan will take you seriously, calling for DLo to be cut or sent to the DLeague. What kind of fan are you exactly? Are you one of those trolls masquerading as a Laker fan? Are you a butthurt 76ers fan wishing that you didn’t have to deal with another crappy draft?

  • Thx for answering my question. Now, as a DIE hard Laker Fan, I have been to fabulous forum, many times. Most memorable, watching Lakers vs Celtics, with the Greatest of all PG (ironic) Magic and Kareem, Great James Worthy, Cooper, and of course our beloved Coach Byron Scott, SHOWTIME. Further, should U ever get the privilege of getting to kno me personally, I have never a mean word for the least of us. Not now, not never. I however, will speak what I consider to be the TRUTH, to the best of my knowledge at all times . . . I too have played, and know, for a fact that the NBA is some real strong, strong men. Fast, athletic, talented to being almost superhuman. So when I say I truly do care for our top draft choice, I do as a human. However, if u think I’m gonna sit and blow smoke up your (u know what) and at u, . . well ur wrong. I’m I wanting ur approval, before I can live my life? No, as a matter of fact, as a Laker Fan, such as your self, and being part of the Laker Family, U don’t have to even like me. Will it hurt my feelings, probably not. But this game, is far more then just the knowing the numbers, as u know it takes a lot more too then just shear talent to be successful at anything. So as a Navy vet (with an AFEMedal); University College Grad; Father of 3 highly successful Children; sobriety for over two decades, I just want to kno, “who is calling me names?” Have I stooped to ur level and called u names? I don’t think so, never will. Will I always say, what U want to hear, in this Laker family? Probably not. But I have come from a close knit, large family, and kno for a fact, we always never got along. But u mess with one of us, you have messed with all of us, type mentality family. I just know this Laker team, is being predicted by everyone, outside Laker nation to NOT do better then 30 games, this entire year. . . frustrating bro, to hear, but We must assemble the best team we can

  • Thx for answering my question. Now, as a DIE hard Laker Fan, I have been to fabulous forum, many times. Most memorable, watching Lakers vs Celtics, with the Greatest of all PG (ironic) Magic and Kareem, Great James Worthy, Cooper, and of course our beloved Coach Byron Scott, SHOWTIME. Further, should U ever get the privilege of getting to kno me personally, I have never a mean word for the least of us. Not now, not never. I however, will speak what I consider to be the TRUTH, to the best of my knowledge at all times . . . I too have played, and know, for a fact that the NBA is some real strong, strong men. Fast, athletic, talented to being almost superhuman. So when I say I truly do care for our top draft choice, I do as a human. However, if u think I’m gonna sit and blow smoke up your (u know what) and at u, . . well ur wrong. I’m I wanting ur approval, before I can live my life? No, as a matter of fact, as a Laker Fan, such as your self, and being part of the Laker Family, U don’t have to even like me. Will it hurt my feelings, probably not. But this game, is far more then just the knowing the numbers, as u know it takes a lot more too then just shear talent to be successful at anything. So as a Navy vet (with an AFEMedal); University College Grad; Father of 3 highly successful Children; sobriety for over two decades, I just want to kno, “who is calling me names?” Have I stooped to ur level and called u names? I don’t think so, never will. Will I always say, what U want to hear, in this Laker family? Probably not. But I have come from a close knit, large family, and kno for a fact, we always never got along. But u mess with one of us, you have messed with all of us, type mentality family. I just know this Laker team, is being predicted by everyone, outside Laker nation to NOT do better then 30 games, this entire year. . . frustrating bro, to hear, but We must assemble the best team we can

  • All of those words haven’t explained at all your logic behind the blatant hate you have for DLo. You say that the NBA is about real strong men who are super athletic, and yet some of the best point guards in the league, were not athletic at all. Magic himself was hardly a super athlete, John Stockton, Steve Nash, Tony Parker. These are/were not surpeme athletic point guards. Because all the athleticism in the world cannot make up for not having a basketball IQ something a point guard must possess, as they are the quarter backs of the team.

    If you have indeed been a Lakers fan as long as you claim, like I have been also, you’d realize that at the end of Showtime (when the older guys like Worthy, Magic, Byron, Kareem were towards the twilight of their careers) there was a period when there were many young guys who were drafted over a 4-5 year period who took time to come to terms with being Lakers and developing into players who could be used to further the Lakers dynasty, guys like Divac, Campbell, Van Exel, Eddie Jones.

    This current period of the Lakers reflects that period, where guys like Kobe, Pau, MWP are coming to the end and the young guys will now take the Lakers into the next great era, it’s not going to happen in one or even two seasons.

    Normally older Lakers fans are far more patient, as they have been through this before, but you seem to be in a rush to throw the future away for what? To win 45 games, get knocked out in the first round at the expense of the next 10 years? Are you close to your deathbed or something?

  • All of those words haven’t explained at all your logic behind the blatant hate you have for DLo. You say that the NBA is about real strong men who are super athletic, and yet some of the best point guards in the league, were not athletic at all. Magic himself was hardly a super athlete, John Stockton, Steve Nash, Tony Parker. These are/were not surpeme athletic point guards. Because all the athleticism in the world cannot make up for not having a basketball IQ something a point guard must possess, as they are the quarter backs of the team.

    If you have indeed been a Lakers fan as long as you claim, like I have been also, you’d realize that at the end of Showtime (when the older guys like Worthy, Magic, Byron, Kareem were towards the tailend of their careers) there was a period when there were many young guys who were drafted over a 4-5 year period who took time to come to terms with being Lakers and developing into players who could be used to further the Lakers dynasty, guys like Divac, Campbell, Van Exel, Eddie Jones.

    This current period of the Lakers reflects that period, where guys like Kobe, Pau, MWP are coming to the end and the young guys will now take the Lakers into the next great era, it’s not going to happen in one or even two seasons.

    Normally older Lakers fans are far more patient, as they have been through this before, but you seem to be in a rush to throw the future away for what? To win 45 games, get knocked out in the first round at the expense of the next 10 years? Are you close to your deathbed or something?

  • I don’t think LA will hurt D’Angelo confidence by sitting him out, cause if he is as good as fo thinks, it is going to take time. Yeah, 2 – 3 yrs to reach a level where he could effectively run a Laker team. So the real question will be how and where to get DR the time? Thats y I think the d league would be most beneficial for DR, there he can work on his weight, strength and get a boat load of playing time! Should the Lakers need him, call up DR for some bench minutes. If the kid doesn’t work out, he doesn’t work out, but it won’t be for a lack of a plan to help develop DR. I say, wait, patience on DR in the d league. Go for the wins, with LW, Swag, Randal, Upshaw, and Hibbert till all-star break. Then if not working, call up the kid DR. With my five, Clarkson can sub in, Bass, Anthony Brown, and Nance can sub in. This gives us the best impact, in a very tough conference and the NBA period. I want to develop the young guns, but that is what d league is all about, for our young guns who are years from effectively contributing at a high level for 82 games. I think Clarkson will be able to contribute nicely as well as Randal can off the bench, to give the vets a rest. But Lakes really need to go shopping today for an Elite PG, cause we have Lou, and only Lou who resembles anything close to an Elite PG. What u got against Lou? At least Lou can score, and will have Upshaw and Hibbert at the same time help protecting the rim. Lets see what happens on Sunday, lets get a win.

  • I don’t think LA will hurt D’Angelo confidence by sitting him out, cause if he is as good as fo thinks, it is going to take time. Yeah, 2 – 3 yrs to reach a level where he could effectively run a Laker team. So the real question will be how and where to get DR the time? Thats y I think the d league would be most beneficial for DR, there he can work on his weight, strength and get a boat load of playing time! Should the Lakers need him, call up DR for some bench minutes. If the kid doesn’t work out, he doesn’t work out, but it won’t be for a lack of a plan to help develop DR. I say, wait, patience on DR in the d league. Go for the wins, with LW, Swag, Randal, Upshaw, and Hibbert till all-star break. Then if not working, call up the kid DR. With my five, Clarkson can sub in, Bass, Anthony Brown, and Nance can sub in. This gives us the best impact, in a very tough conference and the NBA period. I want to develop the young guns, but that is what d league is all about, for our young guns who are years from effectively contributing at a high level for 82 games. I think Clarkson will be able to contribute nicely as well as Randal can off the bench, to give the vets a rest. But Lakes really need to go shopping today for an Elite PG, cause we have Lou, and only Lou who resembles anything close to an Elite PG. What u got against Lou? At least Lou can score, and will have Upshaw and Hibbert at the same time help protecting the rim. Lets see what happens on Sunday, lets get a win.

  • Black, jabari, sacre, and Kelly are on the chopping block. Black and jabari don’t deserve it, but we need room for upshaw, mwp, and at least huertas.

  • Black, jabari, sacre, and Kelly are on the chopping block. Black and jabari don’t deserve it, but we need room for upshaw, mwp, and at least huertas.

  • Black can play C/PF, whereas Bass is strictly a PF, we are going to need Black when we play a team that uses alot of small ball, just saying.

  • Black can play C/PF, whereas Bass is strictly a PF, we are going to need Black when we play a team that uses alot of small ball, just saying.

  • the only problem is that we are extremely weak at that position, if MWP were to get hurt, they would have to move NY to that spot, which may or may not be good, maybe he just needs a little time in the DL ?

  • the only problem is that we are extremely weak at that position, if MWP were to get hurt, they would have to move NY to that spot, which may or may not be good, maybe he just needs a little time in the DL ?

  • Your logic is so flawed, it is almost laughable. You keep going on about elite point guards, when all the elite point guards weren’t sent to the D-League.
    Stephen Curry started every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Tony Parker started every game of his rookie year, he is a 4 time champion
    Mario Chalmers stared every game of his rookie year, he is a 2 time champion
    Jason Kidd started every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Derek Fisher did not start, but he still played every game of his rookie year, he is 5 time champion
    Rajon Rondo did not start, but he played every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Gary Payton started every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Chauncey Bilups….same thing
    Roh Harper…same thing…5 time champion

    In fact when you look at all of today’s Elite NBA point guards, John Wall, Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damien Lillard, Kyrie Irving….what do they all have in common? They all started their rookie years and played every game for which they were available, none of them were sent to the DLeague.

    There is no better way to develop a player than have them face the best of the best. A game against Chris Paul for example for Jordan Clarkson, that did more for his development than 40 games playing against Scrub point guards in the DLeague would have. Jordan Clarkson’s development is due to him being given the keys to the Lakers for a huge portion of the end of last season, him coming off the bench here and there in garbage time, and his little stint in the DLeague did nothing compared to what that has done for him. Dlo won’t learn the Lakers offense, or how to read how the other guys play by facing guys like Dwight Buycks and Manny goddamned Harris in the DLeague. Get a clue.

  • Your logic is so flawed, it is almost laughable. You keep going on about elite point guards, when all the elite point guards weren’t sent to the D-League.
    Stephen Curry started every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Tony Parker started every game of his rookie year, he is a 4 time champion
    Mario Chalmers stared every game of his rookie year, he is a 2 time champion
    Jason Kidd started every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Derek Fisher did not start, but he still played every game of his rookie year, he is 5 time champion
    Rajon Rondo did not start, but he played every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Gary Payton started every game of his rookie year, he is a champion
    Chauncey Bilups….same thing
    Roh Harper…same thing…5 time champion

    In fact when you look at all of today’s Elite NBA point guards, John Wall, Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damien Lillard, Kyrie Irving….what do they all have in common? They all started their rookie years and played every game for which they were available, none of them were sent to the DLeague.

    There is no better way to develop a player than have them face the best of the best. A game against Chris Paul for example for Jordan Clarkson, that did more for his development than 40 games playing against Scrub point guards in the DLeague would have. Jordan Clarkson’s development is due to him being given the keys to the Lakers for a huge portion of the end of last season, him coming off the bench here and there in garbage time, and his little stint in the DLeague did nothing compared to what that has done for him. Dlo won’t learn the Lakers offense, or how to read how the other guys play by facing guys like Dwight Buycks and Manny goddamned Harris in the DLeague. Get a clue.

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