Kobe Bryant Self-Assesses, Julius Randle Impresses (VIDEOS)
Kobe Bryant Self-assesses, Julius Randle Impresses (videos)

The Los Angeles Lakers open the 2015-16 season with three straight losses, after a 103-93 loss to the Dallas Mavericks at Staples Center on Sunday night.

On the bright side, Julius Randle recorded his second double-double of the season with 22 points and 15 rebounds, the first player in the NBA to record at least 22 points, 15 rebounds, four assists, and four steals since Kevin Love on December 15th, 2014, and is the youngest player in the NBA to do so since Anthony Randolph in 2009.

“He’s extremely talented. He’s one of these players where a year from now you’ll see him having an unbelievable jump shot…an unbelievable right hand,” Kobe Bryant said of Randle. “He’s one of those players that’s going to continue to work on those things and develop them. Then his game’s really going to go through the roof.”

Bryant looked out of sorts offensively, knocking down just 3-of-15 field goal attempts, and shooting at a 2-of-8 clip from beyond the arc in the Lakers loss to Dallas. In their three games, Bryant is shooting 31.4 percent from the field, 20.7 percent from three, averaging 5.3 made field goals for his 17 attempts per game.

After the game, head coach Byron Scott said he knows Bryant has been disappointed with the way he’s been shooting. Bryant echoed that same sentiment, but put it a bit more bluntly.

“I’m just playing like sh– right now, that’s all,” Bryant commented after the loss. “D’Angelo (Russell) is putting me in the right spots and stuff like that, I’ve just got to capitalize.”

Bryant, who was recently ranked the 93rd best player in the league by ESPN, didn’t let up, alternating between phrases of “I suck,” to calling himself the 200th best player in the league (of course, a reference to ESPN’s No. 93 NBA rank).

Scott said he wasn’t yet sure if he would stick with the same rotations or experiment this week, despite originally expressing that it would take about 10-15 games before he considered tinkering with the lineups. The Lakers next game is Tuesday night at Staples Center vs. Denver Nuggets, 7:30 PM PST.

Kobe Bryant Harshly Assesses His Performance, Talks Julius Randle’s Potential

Julius Randle After 22 Points/15 Rebounds/4 Assists/4 Steals Performance

Byron Scott After The Lakers 0-3 Start

Lou Williams Looking Forward To Lightened Practice

“I’m just playing like sh– right now”. – With those last two words what he is really saying, is that he believes it’s temporary and much like his shooting, he believes if he keeps shooting away it’s going to get better. Denial.

  • “I’m just playing like sh– right now”. – With those last two words what he is really saying, is that he believes it’s temporary and much like his shooting, he believes if he keeps shooting away it’s going to get better. Denial.

  • Please go check how poorly Derrick Rose was shooting when he first came back from injury. It took him a while to get back to good form. So yes, it’s very possible that it is temporary or do you not realize how hard it is to get a proper rhythm back after having been out for so long? I think Kobe deserves the benefit of the doubt.

  • Please go check how poorly Derrick Rose was shooting when he first came back from injury. It took him a while to get back to good form. So yes, it’s very possible that it is temporary or do you not realize how hard it is to get a proper and consistent rhythm back after having been out for so long? I think Kobe deserves the benefit of the doubt.

  • Derrick Rose is not 37 years old and logged 48,000 minutes on a basketball court. They are absolutely nothing alike

  • Derrick Rose is not 37 years old and logged 48,000 minutes on a basketball court. They are absolutely nothing alike

  • That just proves my point though. If a 26 year old had the same type of trouble, maybe it’s not age, maybe it’s just getting back into it after a long time away.

  • That just proves my point though. If a 26 year old had the same type of trouble, maybe it’s not age, maybe it’s just getting back into it after a long time away.

  • you can still find your rhythm Kobe, we believe in you and the team…yeah growing pains but cmon Im sure lakers will get a winning streak when they finally get their groove

    but it has to start from the coach, Scott please go watch Spurs,GSW and ATL ball movement and “defense!” really are u kiddin me?! right now I will choose mike brown and MDA over these…THE TEAM GOT BETTER BUT THE COACH GOT WORSE!

    #playoffs

  • you can still find your rhythm Kobe, we believe in you and the team…yeah growing pains but cmon Im sure lakers will get a winning streak when they finally get their groove

    but it has to start from the coach, Scott please go watch Spurs,GSW and ATL ball movement and “defense!” really are u kiddin me?! right now I will choose mike brown and MDA over these…THE TEAM GOT BETTER BUT THE COACH GOT WORSE!

    #playoffs

  • Uh…no, I’m bringing up a very real possibility. Even MJ struggled when he came back from his first and second retirements. And eventually got right back to form.

  • Uh…no, I’m bringing up a very real possibility. Even MJ struggled when he came back from his first and second retirements. And eventually got right back to form.

  • Harden in his prime had better help and coach but the rockets are 0-3 and look at his shooting percentage

  • Harden in his prime had better help and coach but the rockets are 0-3 and look at his shooting percentage

  • I would love for him to get benched, anyone else playing that bad not named Kobe Bryant would be.

  • I would love for him to get benched, anyone else playing that bad not named Kobe Bryant would be.

  • Rockets off to a 0-3 start with harden building a city on mars no one bats an eye

    Lakers went 0-3 with Kobe shootng 31%fgs and 20% 3pt and everybody loses their minds

  • Yea, that’s what happens when you start dating one of those Kardashian creatures.

  • Rockets off to a 0-3 start with harden building a city on mars no one bats an eye

    Lakers went 0-3 with Kobe shootng 31%fgs and 20% 3pt and everybody loses their minds

  • Yea, that’s what happens when you start dating one of those Kardashian creatures.

  • Nope, he will still start but will play 28 mins per game max… sit him out if shooting too much but if it’s designed by the system then let it be

  • Nope, he will still start but will play 28 mins per game max… sit him out if shooting too much but if it’s designed by the system then let it be

  • I’m saying it for about 2 years now, but people and especially fanboys can’t face it. Kobe is done and should retire, we will never jump from the bottom until he’s here. Just face it

  • I’m saying it for about 2 years now, but people and especially fanboys can’t face it. Kobe is done and should retire, we will never jump from the bottom until he’s here. Just face it

  • nope, Kobe and the Lakers would be much better than this if the coach is not Byron Scott

    Im not even sure if byron can make it to semis with KD and WB in his team smh

  • nope, Kobe and the Lakers would be much better than this if the coach is not Byron Scott

    Im not even sure if byron can make it to semis with KD and WB in his team smh

  • He’s barely played for 2 years. You can’t possibly know what he’s got left until he plays a full healthy season.

  • He’s barely played for 2 years. You can’t possibly know what he’s got left until he plays a full healthy season.

  • It’s not Byron who says: “Hey Kobe, go and ruin our team, take 25 shots, made 5, don’t do anything in defense, make 30% type player, because we want to lose!”.
    Byron is poor coach, but Kobe is the worst thing now for this organization, sad but true

  • It’s not Byron who says: “Hey Kobe, go and ruin our team, take 25 shots, made 5, don’t do anything in defense, make 30% type player, because we want to lose!”.
    Byron is poor coach, but Kobe is the worst thing now for this organization, sad but true

  • Lets stop pointing at individual players for the mess this is. Most blame goes to the front office for what you seeing on the floor. Struck out on the draft first of all for the make up of this team. Byron Scott had been screaming about defense for the last couple years and they get him a slow foot pg who can’t dribble penetrate or turn the corner on a Big that comes to face him on a pick n roll. They then sign Lou who is also a defensive liability due to his size. At least when they hired D’Antoni they gave him decent spot up shooters to emphasize his scheme.

  • Lets stop pointing at individual players for the mess this is. Most blame goes to the front office for what you seeing on the floor. Struck out on the draft first of all for the make up of this team. Byron Scott had been screaming about defense for the last couple years and they get him a slow foot pg who can’t dribble penetrate or turn the corner on a Big that comes to face him on a pick n roll. They then sign Lou who is also a defensive liability due to his size. At least when they hired D’Antoni they gave him decent spot up shooters to emphasize his scheme.

  • “Scott said he wasn’t yet sure if he would stick with the same rotations or experiment this week”

    Kelly should be out of rotation. If Byron don’t like to use Black or MWP. He better use 9 players or 8 players that can produce.

    Russel, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Hibbert
    Williams, Young, Bass(I think Bass is too small to be a center)
    These are YOUNG players(except Kobe) that can play lots of minutes

  • “Scott said he wasn’t yet sure if he would stick with the same rotations or experiment this week”

    Kelly should be out of rotation. If Byron don’t like to use Black or MWP. He better use 9 players or 8 players that can produce.

    Russel, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Hibbert
    Williams, Young, Bass(I think Bass is too small to be a center)
    These are YOUNG players(except Kobe) that can play lots of minutes

  • I really hope bass and kelly gets traded for anything…..rather play tarik and MWP/Nance jr over those 2 guys

  • I really hope bass and kelly gets traded for anything…..rather play tarik and MWP/Nance jr over those 2 guys

  • We have a perimeter defender MWP but he will never get PT because of dumbass Byron

  • We have a perimeter defender MWP but he will never get PT because of dumbass Byron

  • I live in Kobe’s jock strap but even I cringe when he takes a shot nowadays. I know he wants to shoot his way out of this horrible slump but he could contribute in so much better ways.

    We reeeally need the next one against the no name Nuggets. It could be a classic free fall otherwise with the roadtrip coming up. But with no system, no energy and no clue it’ll be hard – even against Denver. Interesting to hear that the players are complaining about being to tired and worn out already. So we’ll have a well conditioned team in the spring – when everything already is lost. That’s just great Byron. My oh my…

  • I live in Kobe’s jock strap but even I cringe when he takes a shot nowadays. I know he wants to shoot his way out of this horrible slump but he could contribute in so much better ways.

    We reeeally need the next one against the no name Nuggets. It could be a classic free fall otherwise with the roadtrip coming up. But with no system, no energy and no clue it’ll be hard – even against Denver. Interesting to hear that the players are complaining about being to tired and worn out already. So we’ll have a well conditioned team in the spring – when everything already is lost. That’s just great Byron. My oh my…

  • Don’t care what anyone has to say about the trio of Randle-Russell-Clarkson. I love what I see from them. They are all growing on a daily basis and will improve with time. It’s clear that Russell lacks the first step and quickness. It’s possible that he will always remain this way. But his shooting stroke and court vision should help him. Russell is struggling to execute pick and pops because of terrible floor spacing and inconsistent perimeter shooters. Notice how NONE OF THE LAKERS are setting screen and roll opportunities for Russell??

    Right now, Russell is expected to bring the ball up the floor and he freezes because MOST OF HIS TEAMMATES need the ball IN THE HAND to make anything happen. RANDLE, CLARKSON, KOBE, LOU ARE ALL guys who need to hog the ball – none of them are efficient catch-and-shoot guys. We don’t have a single efficient catch-and-shoot guy. How do you expect Russell to thrive in this system? Ryan Kelly is supposed to be a stretch 4 but he’s also trying to run with the ball and is expected to guard DMC, WCS and Dirk. This must be a joke.

    We are shooting 3s left-right-center because stupid BS has given them the green signal. The problem is 1) our shooters are terrible and 2) we are not penetrating defenses to get adequate spacing – that will/and can happen only when Russell is able to run around guards while others set screens (just like what GS do for Curry). Guys like Randle, Kobe, Clarkson should set good screens to allow Russell to get the freedom to run around the perimeter and create spacing which will allow for better shots for everyone on the floor. It will be a win-win for all.

    The day Russell learns to penetrate opposition defenses and make deeper passes to good shooters, he will start averaging 10 assists per game. Right now, the system is not helping his cause. There is no spacing, no rim protection, zero down low presence (Randle can’t be considered a low-post scorer. He is more of a point forward who needs the ball to succeed). We desperately need a GOOD PASSING BIG who can help Russell’s cause. Roy is great but his low-post offensive skills are terrible. This is why have to secure a big man who can score. Not a pick-and-roll big man like Al Horford but a proper big.

    When guys (around him) start moving without the ball, Russell will automatically blossom.You go back and watch the great Phoenix days under D’Antoni. Nash was able to penetrate defenses without too much explosiveness. The system was so amazing that Nash always found open guys without too much trouble.

    I’m telling you. Call me a homer but Russell has game. I can see it. Maybe i’m one of the few (in the world right now) who can see it.

    I just can’t give a pass to our coach or the system he’s running. The guy is living in the 80s. He doesn’t understand “small ball”. He just does things because others are doing it. Just BECAUSE EVERY TEAM IN THE NBA IS SHOOTING 3S, YOU DON’T HAVE TO AS WELL. We don’t have good shooters to pull that off. He claims to be a defensive-minded coach. If he learnt the SLOW THE GAME DOWN, guys like Hibbert and Russell will instantly become effective. We need a guy like Thibs who understands how to put a goddamn leash on the opposition offense. BS just freezes and doesn’t know how to stop the bleeding.

  • Don’t care what anyone has to say about the trio of Randle-Russell-Clarkson. I love what I see from them. They are all growing on a daily basis and will improve with time. It’s clear that Russell lacks the first step and quickness. It’s possible that he will always remain this way. But his shooting stroke and court vision should help him. Russell is struggling to execute pick and pops because of terrible floor spacing and inconsistent perimeter shooters. Notice how NONE OF THE LAKERS are setting screen and roll opportunities for Russell??

    Right now, Russell is expected to bring the ball up the floor and he freezes because MOST OF HIS TEAMMATES need the ball IN THE HAND to make anything happen. RANDLE, CLARKSON, KOBE, LOU ARE ALL guys who need to hog the ball – none of them are efficient catch-and-shoot guys. We don’t have a single efficient catch-and-shoot guy. How do you expect Russell to thrive in this system? Ryan Kelly is supposed to be a stretch 4 but he’s also trying to run with the ball and is expected to guard DMC, WCS and Dirk. This must be a joke.

    We are shooting 3s left-right-center because stupid BS has given them the green signal. The problem is 1) our shooters are terrible and 2) we are not penetrating defenses to get adequate spacing – that will/and can happen only when Russell is able to run around guards while others set screens (just like what GS do for Curry). Guys like Randle, Kobe, Clarkson should set good screens to allow Russell to get the freedom to run around the perimeter and create spacing which will allow for better shots for everyone on the floor. It will be a win-win for all.

    The day Russell learns to penetrate opposition defenses and make deeper passes to good shooters, he will start averaging 10 assists per game. Right now, the system is not helping his cause. There is no spacing, no rim protection, zero down low presence (Randle can’t be considered a low-post scorer. He is more of a point forward who needs the ball to succeed). We desperately need a GOOD PASSING BIG who can help Russell’s cause. Roy is great but his low-post offensive skills are terrible. This is why have to secure a big man who can score. Not a pick-and-roll big man like Al Horford but a proper big who commands doubles at the post.

    When guys (around him) start moving without the ball, Russell will automatically blossom.You go back and watch the great Phoenix days under D’Antoni. Nash was able to penetrate defenses without too much explosiveness. The system was so amazing that Nash always found open guys without too much trouble.

    I’m telling you. Call me a homer but Russell has game. I can see it. Maybe i’m one of the few (in the world right now) who can see it.

    I just can’t give a pass to our coach or the system he’s running. The guy is living in the 80s. He doesn’t understand “small ball”. He just does things because others are doing it. Just BECAUSE EVERY TEAM IN THE NBA IS SHOOTING 3S, YOU DON’T HAVE TO AS WELL. We don’t have good shooters to pull that off. He claims to be a defensive-minded coach. If he learnt the SLOW THE GAME DOWN, guys like Hibbert and Russell will instantly become effective. We need a guy like Thibs who understands how to put a goddamn leash on the opposition offense. BS just freezes and doesn’t know how to stop the bleeding.

  • yes Kelly should be out he hasn’t showed any promise in 3 games and bass can not handle the 5

  • Obviously one of the main issues is nobody is making shots, open or otherwise. Both the last two games we gave up huge leads in the first quarter and then played even or better the rest of the way. The shooting is horrible, and it’s not just Kobe, although he is standing out as really missing a ton of looks. Get the shooting percentage up and things will look a lot better. We cannot be this bad.

  • yes Kelly should be out he hasn’t showed any promise in 3 games and bass can not handle the 5

  • Obviously one of the main issues is nobody is making shots, open or otherwise. Both the last two games we gave up huge leads in the first quarter and then played even or better the rest of the way. The shooting is horrible, and it’s not just Kobe, although he is standing out as really missing a ton of looks. Get the shooting percentage up and things will look a lot better. We cannot be this bad.

  • Bryant is experimenting with a new role…..he looks like his legs aren’t there and as you get older you do experience that…..he needs to make the adjustment and is struggling right now. Regardless Bryant is only taking the shots the offence dictates which is ok. He’s never been a great 3 point shooter yet playing the 3, that is part of the job of spacing the floor. Lakers real issue is defence right now and the lack of hustle on the defensive end if the shots aren’t going down on the other end. That happens with a young team yet to figure out their niche. Another issue is Scott’s rotation….they should not be scared to bring Russel off the bench rather than start….he’s not ready, not even close to ready for this level….give him time to develop instead of force feeding this rebuild. Another issue is Ryan Kelly….why exactly is he in the rotation? or even on this team….. he is a brick laying, turnover turnstyle …… the bench can guard their own shadows, having an undersized front court with Kelly on it is a recipe for big runs by the other team….. if he can’t space the floor he should be sweeping it instead of being on an NBA team. Randle looks like he’s going to be an elite player at some point, especially if he ever develops a 150-17 foot jump shot.

  • Bryant is experimenting with a new role…..he looks like his legs aren’t there and as you get older you do experience that…..he needs to make the adjustment and is struggling right now. Regardless Bryant is only taking the shots the offence dictates which is ok. He’s never been a great 3 point shooter yet playing the 3, that is part of the job of spacing the floor. Lakers real issue is defence right now and the lack of hustle on the defensive end if the shots aren’t going down on the other end. That happens with a young team yet to figure out their niche. Another issue is Scott’s rotation….they should not be scared to bring Russel off the bench rather than start….he’s not ready, not even close to ready for this level….give him time to develop and actually earn the role instead of force feeding this rebuild. Another issue is Ryan Kelly….why exactly is he in the rotation? or even on this team….. he is a brick laying, turnover creating, turnstyle ….. and he’s no rookie so that excuse can be thrown out the window, he’s just a really bad draft pick from that class by the team trying to force fit small ball…… the bench can’t guard their own shadows, having an undersized front court with Kelly on it is a recipe for big runs by the other team….. if he can’t space the floor he should be sweeping it instead of being on an NBA team. Randle looks like he’s going to be an elite player at some point, especially if he ever develops a 15-17 foot jump shot.

  • needs time to adjust to his new role…incase you haven’t notice behind your obvious blind hatred he is not running the offence or dictating the shot selection. The lack of defence and hustle on that end, especially when the offence goes dry is the real concern….and is always a concern with so many young players playing prominent roles…… can’t over exaggerate the issue right now and you can hardly point it at Bryant really either…… even if you are dying too 😉

  • needs time to adjust to his new role…incase you haven’t notice behind your obvious blind hatred he is not running the offence or dictating the shot selection. The lack of defence and hustle on that end, especially when the offence goes dry is the real concern….and is always a concern with so many young players playing prominent roles…… can’t over exaggerate the issue right now and you can hardly point it at Bryant really either…… even if you are dying too 😉

  • really? well first off Bryant is taking closer to 15 shots a game, not 25…… he’s taking them mostly in the flow of the offence he is no longer really running…… aka he’s taking the shots that are being dictated genius. The worse thing right now is force feeding the rebuild ….. Russell is not ready to be on this court starting, they should be making him earn it instead of listening the lame brain media and force feeding the re-build….. Randle is ready and it shows, Russel is too young to be running this offence right now……he’s not ready, especially with his lack lustre hustle on the defensive end….of course that happens when you are given something without actually earning it. My worry is they are going to ruin this kid by force feeding this crap. Or how about the use of Ryan Kelly …… this guy is not a rookie but he certainly is a disaster on the floor ……. he was drafted as a floor spacer……well he can’t even do that….. I much rather see Black at centre and Bass at PF from the bench but hey…everyone is in love with gimmick ball which made the Lakers reach on Kelly….. the kid iOS not an NBA level player and it’s painfully obvious.

  • really? well first off Bryant is taking closer to 15 shots a game, not 25…… he’s taking them mostly in the flow of the offence he is no longer really running…… aka he’s taking the shots that are being dictated genius. The worse thing right now is force feeding the rebuild ….. Russell is not ready to be on this court starting, they should be making him earn it instead of listening the lame brain media and force feeding the re-build….. Randle is ready and it shows, Russel is too young to be running this offence right now……he’s not ready, especially with his lack lustre hustle on the defensive end….of course that happens when you are given something without actually earning it. My worry is they are going to ruin this kid by force feeding this crap. Or how about the use of Ryan Kelly …… this guy is not a rookie but he certainly is a disaster on the floor ……. he was drafted as a floor spacer……well he can’t even do that….. I much rather see Black at centre and Bass at PF from the bench but hey…everyone is in love with gimmick ball which made the Lakers reach on Kelly….. the kid iOS not an NBA level player and it’s painfully obvious.

  • Shooting wins championships! Defense is a close second. Just look at the Warriors!

  • Shooting wins championships! Defense is a close second. Just look at the Warriors!

  • Biggest issue with Kobe, is this group desperately needs a 3 and D guy to play with them and at that role he is abysmal. I think they are better off resting Kobe and letting Anthony Brown develop in that role.

  • I agree with you about Russel ……. but I also believe in earning it…… he’s really not ready for the pressure and he really is just too young right now….. problem is there is a lot of pressure to force feed the rebuild …… that might work in the long run but it could also hurt….. what I fear is they will ruin the kid by forcing him into this role……. Scoot could easily get him the minutes to develop but coming off the bench….. of course every Laker fan would blindly criticize the move but in the best interest of his long run success I really think they should do that.
    As far as Ryan Kelly….. was a reach to draft him trying to conform to gimmick ball (small ball) he is basically a brick laying, turnover creating, turnstyle…….. and he’s no rookie for that excuse. I really wish the Lakers would give Black some minutes at the 5 and slide Bass over to the 4 …… either that or activate MWP and play him as a stretch 4…… not because he can shot but because he might be able to at least put up a fight on the other end of the floor instead of a ohhhhlay bull fighter that Ryan is.

  • Biggest issue with Kobe, is this group desperately needs a 3 and D guy to play with them and at that role he is abysmal. I think they are better off resting Kobe and letting Anthony Brown develop in that role.

  • I agree with you about Russel ……. but I also believe in earning it…… he’s really not ready for the pressure and he really is just too young right now….. problem is there is a lot of pressure to force feed the rebuild …… that might work in the long run but it could also hurt….. what I fear is they will ruin the kid by forcing him into this role……. Scoot could easily get him the minutes to develop but coming off the bench….. of course every Laker fan would blindly criticize the move but in the best interest of his long run success I really think they should do that.
    As far as Ryan Kelly….. was a reach to draft him trying to conform to gimmick ball (small ball) he is basically a brick laying, turnover creating, turnstyle…….. and he’s no rookie for that excuse. I really wish the Lakers would give Black some minutes at the 5 and slide Bass over to the 4 …… either that or activate MWP and play him as a stretch 4…… not because he can shot but because he might be able to at least put up a fight on the other end of the floor instead of a ohhhhlay bull fighter that Ryan is.

  • Here is the thing about our Bench… So far they are outscoring the opponents. The bench, Kelly are not the issue. Yes, they are bad at defense, but their offense is making up for it. The issue is the starters.

  • Here is the thing about our Bench… So far they are outscoring the opponents. The bench, Kelly are not the issue. Yes, they are bad at defense, but their offense is making up for it. The issue is the starters.

  • Sure … but when you decide to go extremely young with your starters your veteran bench has to produce on BOTH ends…….. you can’t have a turnstyle bench when you have basically 3 developmental players as starters….. you have to be solid somewhere …… Bass should be a 4, not playing heavy minutes at the 5….. He needs help down low…… Black would bring energy and hustle perhaps while allowing Bass to play his more natural position….. Kelly is just a waste of space and it’s unacceptable because he is NOT a rookie here. …….. it’s not always about the numbers either, it’s about the tone and dictating the flow of there game.

  • Sure … but when you decide to go extremely young with your starters your veteran bench has to produce on BOTH ends…….. you can’t have a turnstyle bench when you have basically 3 developmental players as starters….. you have to be solid somewhere …… Bass should be a 4, not playing heavy minutes at the 5….. He needs help down low…… Black would bring energy and hustle perhaps while allowing Bass to play his more natural position….. Kelly is just a waste of space and it’s unacceptable because he is NOT a rookie here. …….. it’s not always about the numbers either, it’s about the tone and dictating the flow of there game. They have Swaggy, Willams and Hurtas to space the floor and create….Kelly is overkill to the detriment of the defence and paint protection….not worth it IMO…Perhaps if they had a legitimate centre you could play Kelly beside him…..you can’t go small at centre and have a 1 trick pony at the 4.

  • As I said, the bench is winning games. If you just took the bench’s production in all three games and minus the starters. We win. And last night Kelly was bad, but even then his energy and movement on offense is very good. He makes things easier for Young, Lou etc.
    The issue with this team, is that Kobe is a volume shooter that can’t make a shot. Russell is learning to play the game.
    Russell is a rookie, no one expects him to win games for us. Kobe is… well, I guess just washed up.

  • As I said, the bench is winning games. If you just took the bench’s production in all three games and minus the starters. We win. And last night Kelly was bad, but even then his energy and movement on offense is very good. He makes things easier for Young, Lou etc.

    The issue with this team, is that Kobe is a volume shooter that can’t make a shot. Russell is learning to play the game.

    Russell is a rookie, no one expects him to win games for us. Kobe is… well, I guess just washed up.

  • Very true. And when you can make 3’s at that rate it forces other teams to do the same, which can lead to much easier defense.

  • Very true. And when you can make 3’s at that rate it forces other teams to do the same, which can lead to much easier defense.

  • I am sure Rockets fans are also not happy. But the truth is Harden is a big part of their future, where Kobe is not for us. They need Harden to get through this stretch and be better. We need Kobe to get out of the way so younger guys who have a future here can develop.

  • I am sure Rockets fans are also not happy. But the truth is Harden is a big part of their future, where Kobe is not for us. They need Harden to get through this stretch and be better. We need Kobe to get out of the way so younger guys who have a future here can develop.

  • Jordan did not get back to form. He was pretty bad. His numbers were decent, but he could no longer defend at a high level and their team was awful.

  • Jordan did not get back to form. He was pretty bad. His numbers were decent, but he could no longer defend at a high level and their team was awful.

  • absolutely…… but the forcing of Russle to start has created to issue in the first place….. they would be much better of allowing Clarkson to start at the 1, play Bryant at the 2 and have Brown in there as a defensive minded player that can space the floor from her 3….. Get Russle his minutes but have him coming in as the 6th man….the force feeding of a kid that really is not ready has some of the rotation unbalanced IMO…… but my guess is certain management is impatient to have “his” guys playing and it will hurt for a good while forcing it.

  • absolutely…… but the forcing of Russle to start has created to issue in the first place….. they would be much better of allowing Clarkson to start at the 1, play Bryant at the 2 and have Brown in there as a defensive minded player that can space the floor from her 3….. Get Russle his minutes but have him coming in as the 6th man….the force feeding of a kid that really is not ready has some of the rotation unbalanced IMO…… but my guess is certain management is impatient to have “his” guys playing and it will hurt for a good while forcing it.

  • That is fine. I am fine with losing as long as we are developing a core for the future. Kobe isn’t part of that core. He needs to just get out of the way.

  • That is fine. I am fine with losing as long as we are developing a core for the future. Kobe isn’t part of that core. He needs to just get out of the way.

  • ya but you can ruin a kid before he has a chance to develop…… that is my fear. His confidence given the forced role…… Bryant himself was never forced into such a role, losing is fine as long as you are progressing but if you push to hard to can digress a player just as easily.

  • Time will tell. If the wheels have fallen off, it’s as much up to the organization to tell him ‘no’ as it is to Kobe, himself. But 3 games into the season, I’m willing to see where he’s at a couple months from now. What Kobe needs to realize is that, more important than getting into HIS rhythm, the team needs to find a rhythm. He can’t dribble the ball through the court on offense and stop the motion and turn his teammates into spectators. It’s something that he intellectually realizes, but I think it’s going to take him time to stop listening to his instincts.

  • ya but you can ruin a kid before he has a chance to develop…… that is my fear. His confidence given the forced role…… Bryant himself was never forced into such a role, losing is fine as long as you are progressing but if you push to hard to can digress a player just as easily.

  • Time will tell. If the wheels have fallen off, it’s as much up to the organization to tell him ‘no’ as it is to Kobe, himself. But 3 games into the season, I’m willing to see where he’s at a couple months from now. What Kobe needs to realize is that, more important than getting into HIS rhythm, the team needs to find a rhythm. He can’t dribble the ball through the court on offense and stop the motion and turn his teammates into spectators. It’s something that he intellectually realizes, but I think it’s going to take him time to stop listening to his instincts.

  • Russell is doing fine. A large part of the reason his assists are low is because Kobe can’t make a shot. His outlet pass is Kobe and Kobe can’t shoot.
    I am not worried about Russell. He and Randle seemed to have a nice little two man game going last night. They are both smart players. But both guys need an outlet 3 and D guy to run a good offense.

  • Russell is doing fine. A large part of the reason his assists are low is because Kobe can’t make a shot. His outlet pass is Kobe and Kobe can’t shoot.
    I am not worried about Russell. He and Randle seemed to have a nice little two man game going last night. They are both smart players. But both guys need an outlet 3 and D guy to run a good offense.

  • hey I’m not saying to give Bryant more minutes and Russle less somehow ………. but my thought actually helps you develop Brown as well who I believe can be an Ariza type of player ……… Russell would still get his but lets at least make him earn something…… handing over the keys while watching him give limited effort on the defensive end is of no help to the kid…….. that’s how bad habits are formed….. don’t get me wrong either, I know we are going to lose a lot this year, especially early…… I just want to grow this thing naturally, not forced.

  • hey I’m not saying to give Bryant more minutes and Russle less somehow ………. but my thought actually helps you develop Brown as well who I believe can be an Ariza type of player ……… Russell would still get his but lets at least make him earn something…… handing over the keys while watching him give limited effort on the defensive end is of no help to the kid…….. that’s how bad habits are formed….. don’t get me wrong either, I know we are going to lose a lot this year, especially early…… I just want to grow this thing naturally, not forced.

  • I do like Russell with the 2nd unit since they have so many catch and shoot players. But I would rather that Clarkson, Randle and Russell play together. Our best shot at a future is those three becoming dominant together. This season is about them becoming our core “together”.

  • I do like Russell with the 2nd unit since they have so many catch and shoot players. But I would rather that Clarkson, Randle and Russell play together. Our best shot at a future is those three becoming dominant together. This season is about them becoming our core “together”.

  • Playing SF is not a new role for Kobe Bryant, he has done it for an entire season before. Also he has filled in there plenty of times over the years. That’s an excuse, what Kobe really is adjusting to, is the complete inability to break down his man, or get to the rim due to the loss of athleticism. This is not about the young guys at all, his defense is also non existent. The Lakers are -27 with him on the floor and -2 when he is not. Don’t think he is the problem? Take off your blinders.

  • Playing SF is not a new role for Kobe Bryant, he has done it for an entire season before. Also he has filled in there plenty of times over the years. That’s an excuse, what Kobe really is adjusting to, is the complete inability to break down his man, or get to the rim due to the loss of athleticism. This is not about the young guys at all, his defense is also non existent. The Lakers are -27 with him on the floor and -2 when he is not. Don’t think he is the problem? Take off your blinders.

  • Bryant is a volume shooter by nature but that has been curbed in his adjustment to his role…… I think you pay way to much attention to offence and comp;lately disregard your balance on the other end ……. what he gives is not worth what is happening in the paint and on the boards for the bench ……. don;t give me the +/- stats….. tell me about the rhythm and tone that is being set …….. the unmeasurable matter, analytics don;t help you there.

  • It is simple math. The other team’s second unit is scoring 10 points less than ours on average.

  • Bryant is a volume shooter by nature but that has been curbed in his adjustment to his role…… I think you pay way to much attention to offence and comp;lately disregard your balance on the other end ……. what he gives is not worth what is happening in the paint and on the boards for the bench ……. don;t give me the +/- stats….. tell me about the rhythm and tone that is being set …….. the unmeasurable matter, analytics don;t help you there.

  • It is simple math. The other team’s second unit is scoring 10 points less than ours on average.

  • again, you seem to overvalue analytics …. that’s fine …. it is the fantasy sports world now…….. math tells you something but it also can make you miss things as well…… being blinded by pure numbers can have you chase your tail ……..

  • again, you seem to overvalue analytics …. that’s fine …. it is the fantasy sports world now…….. math tells you something but it also can make you miss things as well…… being blinded by pure numbers can have you chase your tail ……..

  • No analytics involved. It is simple math. Not enough games for analytics to matter yet.

  • No analytics involved. It is simple math. Not enough games for analytics to matter yet.

  • Explain to me how dribbling the ball 11 seconds and then throwing up a wild shot that hit the backboard had anything to do with the playing SF or a new role. That was vintage Kobe, he takes the 3 ball because once he catches it, he cannot get to the rim. Ever heard of the pump fake and take it closer? Ryan Kelly does it all the time, cause even he can’t rely on his 3 ball. Russell needs to learn the game and be thrown to the wolves, like all the other rookies are. Kobe Bryant is just holding everyone back, like he has been doing for the past 3 seasons now.

  • Explain to me how dribbling the ball 11 seconds and then throwing up a wild shot that hit the backboard had anything to do with the playing SF or a new role. That was vintage Kobe, he takes the 3 ball because once he catches it, he cannot get to the rim. Ever heard of the pump fake and take it closer? Ryan Kelly does it all the time, cause even he can’t rely on his 3 ball. Russell needs to learn the game and be thrown to the wolves, like all the other rookies are. Kobe Bryant is just holding everyone back, like he has been doing for the past 3 seasons now.

  • if that’s the case than the math is not a great indicator as well …….. I see there rhythm and feel of a game……. but hey, the math is always right ……… to make a football comparison the math/analytics suggest Sherman, the corner from the Seahawks is the 102nd best CB in football ……. now you tell me do you think he is? (if you watch football) … the numbers and analytics….the math….is misleading ……. too many “numbers” guys lose sight of that, they are blinded with their love of the numbers and trends.

  • if that’s the case than the math is not a great indicator as well …….. I see there rhythm and feel of a game……. but hey, the math is always right ……… to make a football comparison the math/analytics suggest Sherman, the corner from the Seahawks is the 102nd best CB in football ……. now you tell me do you think he is? (if you watch football) … the numbers and analytics….the math….is misleading ……. too many “numbers” guys lose sight of that, they are blinded with their love of the numbers and trends.

  • lol ….. ok I see who I’m debating … a boxscore guy …… ;lets just agree to disagree than…. you have a right to your opinion , even if it is a mislead one IMO 😉

  • lol ….. ok I see who I’m debating … a boxscore guy …… ;lets just agree to disagree than…. you have a right to your opinion , even if it is a mislead one IMO 😉

  • lol more like the coach not Kobe….Kobe is playing off the ball already, Dlo struggles because:

    1. not used to spotting up baseline 3s(even in the NCAA he aint used to it)

    2. players off the ball movement- the other 4 guys must move and not just stand waiting for passes

    3. Dlo must be the point, not JC,Kobe or Randle…at his best when he has the ball in his hands with his passing and shooting

    4. Gotta give him screeens coz that’s where he excels at, but the bigs aint willing to do it most of the time and Scott hates PnR too much

  • If we are disagreeing on a score of 20 beating 10, then I guess there is no hope for a discussion.

  • lol more like the coach not Kobe….Kobe is playing off the ball already, Dlo struggles because:

    1. not used to spotting up baseline 3s(even in the NCAA he aint used to it)

    2. players off the ball movement- the other 4 guys must move and not just stand waiting for passes

    3. Dlo must be the point, not JC,Kobe or Randle…at his best when he has the ball in his hands with his passing and shooting

    4. Gotta give him screeens coz that’s where he excels at, but the bigs aint willing to do it most of the time and Scott hates PnR too much

  • If we are disagreeing on a score of 20 beating 10, then I guess there is no hope for a discussion.

  • again, not going to argue with a pure numbers guy …. again answer the football Sherman question……. if you watch football you won’t because you would understand the numbers game can be misleading if you actually don’t know what you are really critiquing ……. like I said you have a right to your opinion, trying to belittle mine really only shows your maturity. I’m a software developer in the robotics field, I know about math and number big guy….. I also know that you actually have to understand something before the numbers can make any sense …….. you don;t have an argument besides numbers, numbers can support an argument, they can’t be the hole argument …….

  • again, not going to argue with a pure numbers guy …. again answer the football Sherman question……. if you watch football you won’t because you would understand the numbers game can be misleading if you actually don’t know what you are really critiquing ……. like I said you have a right to your opinion, trying to belittle mine really only shows your maturity. I’m a software developer in the robotics field, I know about math and number big guy….. I also know that you actually have to understand something before the numbers can make any sense …….. you don;t have an argument besides numbers, numbers can support an argument, they can’t be the hole argument …….

  • Dlo is struggling, but similar to Harden we need him to get through it and get better. He is a big part of our future. No reason for Kobe to struggle out there. Put in a guy who we can develop for the future.

  • Dlo is struggling, but similar to Harden we need him to get through it and get better. He is a big part of our future. No reason for Kobe to struggle out there. Put in a guy who we can develop for the future.

  • Dlo a big part of the future…I agree
    BUT KOBE HAVING NO REASON TO STRUGGLE? get real dude(age,wear and tear,injuries,fatigue), even guys like Lou is saying and hoping that scott eases up the practice(TC is done, NBA already started)…
    guys cant give their best if they are fatigue…developing for the future is important but competing while rebuilding is the thing…..Mitch and Buss said it already, they willl FIGHT FOR A PLAYOFF SPOT

  • Dlo a big part of the future…I agree
    BUT KOBE HAVING NO REASON TO STRUGGLE? get real dude(age,wear and tear,injuries,fatigue), even guys like Lou is saying and hoping that scott eases up the practice(TC is done, NBA already started)…
    guys cant give their best if they are fatigue…developing for the future is important but competing while rebuilding is the thing…..Mitch and Buss said it already, they willl FIGHT FOR A PLAYOFF SPOT

  • lol ohhhlay bull fighter. well said. i’d be happy with a Black/Buss/Nance/MWP second/third unit front court rotation. at least we won’t get out-rebounded this mercilessly.

  • I am not saying there is not a reason he is struggling. Dude is old and banged up. I am saying there is no reason for him to be on the floor struggling when we have guys we can develop for the future.

  • lol ohhhlay bull fighter. well said. i’d be happy with a Black/Bass/Nance/MWP second/third unit front court rotation. at least we won’t get out-rebounded this mercilessly.

  • I am not saying there is not a reason he is struggling. Dude is old and banged up. I am saying there is no reason for him to be on the floor struggling when we have guys we can develop for the future.

  • welp, upshaw was send to dleague, nance jr and abrown having almost non existent PT…that is because they are not yet good enough to be in the rotation…sure have to develop them but they have to be ready…especially that brown looks lost and lacks confidence

  • welp, upshaw was send to dleague, nance jr and abrown having almost non existent PT…that is because they are not yet good enough to be in the rotation…sure have to develop them but they have to be ready…especially that brown looks lost and lacks confidence

  • Kobe acknowledges that it’s his faul, Dlo placing him in the right place but his shots aint falling Kobe knows what to do he can adjust he will adjust

  • Kobe acknowledges that it’s his faul, Dlo placing him in the right place but his shots aint falling Kobe knows what to do he can adjust he will adjust

  • The job is to develop them into NBA players. Best way to do that is to play them. Brown especially fills a role we need right now. We need a 3 and D guy and he is the best option. Confidence will come, just gotta give him a chance.

  • The job is to develop them into NBA players. Best way to do that is to play them. Brown especially fills a role we need right now. We need a 3 and D guy and he is the best option. Confidence will come, just gotta give him a chance.

  • At least he knows it. Don’t like how he brushed the facilitate question aside. That’s what he should do more of – pass

  • I agree with that ……. but you can do that thru a flow of a game without im-balancing yourself so badly forcing it within the starting rotation…… Bryant comes off the court first and Russel goes in you have Russel, Clarkson and Randle on the court….at the same time and you fit that in thru stretches of the game.

  • At least he knows it. Don’t like how he brushed the facilitate question aside. That’s what he should do more of – pass

  • I agree with that ……. but you can do that thru a flow of a game without im-balancing yourself so badly forcing it within the starting rotation…… Bryant comes off the court first and Russel goes in you have Russel, Clarkson and Randle on the court….at the same time and you fit that in thru stretches of the game……regardless , somewhat somehow they have to pay more attention to their rotation as it refers to the defensive end of the floor….they have guys to do this, they are just sacrificing it in order to force feed the rebuild process……. there is a potential risk though, the risk of ruining a player by forcing it too hard IMO. That is my biggest concern with Russel right now, he really is a guy that needed more time in college IMO, he’s not an athletic freak which helps players who jump to the NBA so early compensate until they learn….. That increases the risk IMO.

  • every players especially rook has to earn that thing, gotta prove the coaching staff that they will contribute on the court…which only DLo,Randle and huertas among the rooks has done

  • every players especially rook has to earn that thing, gotta prove the coaching staff that they will contribute on the court…which only DLo,Randle and huertas among the rooks has done

  • yes this year is about developing, but also about winning….they cant just let the young guns play deez aint 6ers deez them lakers yall know that Scott himself wants to win but at the same time doing it while developing the future core

  • yes this year is about developing, but also about winning….they cant just let the young guns play deez aint 6ers deez them lakers yall know that Scott himself wants to win but at the same time doing it while developing the future core

  • Respect, Wiz let MJ play,Cavs will surely let bron play,KD,dirk,KG,duncan because of their legacy they have earned it…those players brought their teams to the top…it’s like giving back the favor

  • Respect, Wiz let MJ play,Cavs will surely let bron play,KD,dirk,KG,duncan because of their legacy they have earned it…those players brought their teams to the top…it’s like giving back the favor

  • again you are proving g nothing here other than your lack of knowledge in favour of a boxscore somehow compensating for it.

  • Personally I am fine with playing both Brown and Nance right now. They both play hard and with a lot of energy. They have earned a chance to learn and get better. Have they earned a chance for minutes on a playoff team? No, but we aren’t that kind of team.

  • and also $$$, Lakers use Kobe to get $$$, Cavs use bron to get theirs, KD and WB being used by OKC, etc

  • again you are proving g nothing here other than your lack of knowledge in favour of a boxscore somehow compensating for it.

  • Personally I am fine with playing both Brown and Nance right now. They both play hard and with a lot of energy. They have earned a chance to learn and get better. Have they earned a chance for minutes on a playoff team? No, but we aren’t that kind of team.

  • and also $$$, Lakers use Kobe to get $$$, Cavs use bron to get theirs, KD and WB being used by OKC, etc

  • Not even talking about sports. I am talking about simple math. As soon as we can agree on this mathematic fact, we can discuss it.

  • Not even talking about sports. I am talking about simple math. As soon as we can agree on this mathematic fact, we can discuss it.

  • for some people they have earned it, but it seems like the other way for scott and the coaching staff….although they’ll surely get their minutes when sacre,kelly,bass gets traded or Kobe,MWP taking rest/day offs

  • for some people they have earned it, but it seems like the other way for scott and the coaching staff….although they’ll surely get their minutes when sacre,kelly,bass gets traded or Kobe,MWP taking rest/day offs

  • We aren’t winning. We don’t have a roster built to win. But we do have a nice young core to develop.

  • We aren’t winning. We don’t have a roster built to win. But we do have a nice young core to develop.

  • this roster is built to win…it’s just that finding their identity and system at the same time has a young core to develop

  • this roster is built to win…it’s just that finding their identity and system at the same time has a young core to develop

  • I think there are maybe three teams in the NBA we have a reasonable chance to beat. But is it worth taking development time away from young guys to beat those three teams? Personally I say no.

    Our best chance at winning is developing our young players into guys that can beat any team.

  • I think there are maybe three teams in the NBA we have a reasonable chance to beat. But is it worth taking development time away from young guys to beat those three teams? Personally I say no.

    Our best chance at winning is developing our young players into guys that can beat any team.

  • that’s what they are doing right now the future big 3 is starting…..brown, nance aint just getting it right now since they will be role players in the future, brown will play backup minutes to the future starting SF at the same time a perimeter defender, nance jr will be tasked to do the same but against forwards who are stronger and posts up….look they will have more time developing the more wins they get and IF they reach the playoffs that would give them so much experience and will boost their confidence and development process

  • that’s what they are doing right now the future big 3 is starting…..brown, nance aint just getting it right now since they will be role players in the future, brown will play backup minutes to the future starting SF at the same time a perimeter defender, nance jr will be tasked to do the same but against forwards who are stronger and posts up….look they will have more time developing the more wins they get and IF they reach the playoffs that would give them so much experience and will boost their confidence and development process

  • Yep, now if we can replace Kobe with Brown I would be happy. I think that is our future core.

  • lol …. you answer the Sherman question and accept numbers can be misleading I’ll accept your grade 2 math ……. again, lets not make it about belittling with a math question…….I gave you a CLEAR example of numbers being misleading, you give me a grade 2 math question that is really not going to take us anywhere…….do you accept numbers can be misleading? if you don’t I recommend you go past grade 2, perhaps expand your knowledge of something than get back to me…… Richard Sherman the 102nd best cornerback in the NFL….that’s where pure numbers get you in the world of sports as an argument, in a corner looking stupid.

  • Yep, now if we can replace Kobe with Brown I would be happy. I think that is our future core.

  • lol …. you answer the Sherman question and accept numbers can be misleading I’ll accept your grade 2 math ……. again, lets not make it about belittling with a math question…….I gave you a CLEAR example of numbers being misleading, you give me a grade 2 math question that is really not going to take us anywhere…….do you accept numbers can be misleading? if you don’t I recommend you go past grade 2, perhaps expand your knowledge of something than get back to me…… Richard Sherman the 102nd best cornerback in the NFL….that’s where pure numbers get you in the world of sports as an argument, in a corner looking stupid.

  • This team has all the tools to reach playoffs, the problem is that they dont know how to use it, play with their strengths while covering their weaknesses…..Lakers is one of the several teams which can compete NOW while developing for the FUTURE, other teams can compete right now but nonfactor in the near future(SAS,BKN,MEM) other teams will have a nice future(Minny,Jazz,ORL) but cannot compete right now

  • This team has all the tools to reach playoffs, the problem is that they dont know how to use it, play with their strengths while covering their weaknesses…..Lakers is one of the several teams which can compete NOW while developing for the FUTURE, other teams can compete right now but nonfactor in the near future(SAS,BKN,MEM) other teams will have a nice future(Minny,Jazz,ORL) but cannot compete right now

  • lol nope, that’s just tanking for simmons BIG NO! rather let him EARN his minutes

  • This roster is not built to win at all. There are no perimeter defenders on this roster, there is no real backup C. There is a giant cheerleader taking a spot, and a player from times past also taking up a roster spot. This roster is a mish mash of young talent and past it veterans combined with panic buys and absolute scrubs.

  • this season’s probably gonna be as ugly as ast year. only louder with a tamed mamba

  • lol nope, that’s just tanking for simmons BIG NO! rather let him EARN his minutes

  • This roster is not built to win at all. There are no perimeter defenders on this roster, there is no real backup C. There is a giant cheerleader taking a spot, and a player from times past also taking up a roster spot. This roster is a mish mash of young talent and past it veterans combined with panic buys and absolute scrubs.

  • this season’s probably gonna be as ugly as last year. only louder with a tamed mamba

  • and that is the reason you aint the GM of the Lakers lol cmon what team u lookin’ at? this roster can compete for a playoffs
    Worst Case: 30 wins
    Best Case: Playoffs

    tarik is a smallball backup C, MWP,Hibbert,JC,Randle,Nance Jr,brown all these guys can defend…..sacre will be cut or used in a trade…Kobe still the main man of this team…it is actually a good mix of youth and vets

    the problem is that how can they play as a team and within the so called system

  • and that is the reason you aint the GM of the Lakers lol cmon what team u lookin’ at? this roster can compete for a playoffs
    Worst Case: 30 wins
    Best Case: Playoffs

    tarik is a smallball backup C, MWP,Hibbert,JC,Randle,Nance Jr,brown all these guys can defend…..sacre will be cut or used in a trade…Kobe still the main man of this team…it is actually a good mix of youth and vets

    the problem is that how can they play as a team and within the so called system

  • absolutely …….. they din’t become dangerous until they started to seriously defend people but they have been in the top and of offensive stats for a few years now ……… defence creates easy looks thru transition opportunities, rebounding created opportunities …. it’s not all about jacking up shots and the offence that the fantasy guys love to talk about.

  • absolutely …….. they din’t become dangerous until they started to seriously defend people but they have been in the top and of offensive stats for a few years now ……… defence creates easy looks thru transition opportunities, rebounding created opportunities …. it’s not all about jacking up shots and the offence that the fantasy guys love to talk about. The Lakers need to seriously think about what makes the Warriors the warriors if they are trying to mimic the template……. and drive it in to the young guys early before they develop bad habits that takes years to turn around if at all.

  • exactly, with great defense you are killing the other team’s confidence which results to more missed shots, bad communication and the willingness to play defense…it will affect the opponent’s mind not just it’s body

  • exactly, with great defense you are killing the other team’s confidence which results to more missed shots, bad communication and the willingness to play defense…it will affect the opponent’s mind not just it’s body

  • this roster is better than last year’s…the problem is that Scott has no idea how to utilize this team the right way

  • this roster is better than last year’s…the problem is that Scott has no idea how to utilize this team the right way

  • roster being better is aso relative to the league.amost every other team got better except maybe 2-3 so even though this roster is better than last years, the competition is tougher.

  • roster being better is also relative to the league.amost every other team got better except maybe 2-3 so even though this roster is better than last years, the competition is tougher.

  • like KB24 said…some of it is the $$$$ but also some of it is because this is not NCAA basketball …….. veterans have to be there to help with the transition…… if Bryant was taking over the offence and running 25 touches worth of ISOs I’de be whining but he’s not….almost all his shots have been dictated by the offence and his minutes have been reduced……… but giving up 80 points in the paint one game is not all on Kobe even though the bryant haters love trying to make it about him…… those excuses are gone now….he is stepping back which is a wonderful sign of acceptance….. now he just has to figure out how to make it work to the best of his ability and for Scott to figure out how to best implement the rookies without just flat out giving up games in a professional setting.

  • like KB24 said…some of it is the $$$$ but also some of it is because this is not NCAA basketball …….. veterans have to be there to help with the transition…… if Bryant was taking over the offence and running 25 touches worth of ISOs I’de be whining but he’s not….almost all his shots have been dictated by the offence and his minutes have been reduced……… but giving up 80 points in the paint one game is not all on Kobe even though the bryant haters love trying to make it about him…… those excuses are gone now….he is stepping back which is a wonderful sign of acceptance….. now he just has to figure out how to make it work to the best of his ability and for Scott to figure out how to best implement the rookies without just flat out giving up games in a professional setting.

  • it depends, GSW,OKC,SAS,LAC,HOU,MEM,NOH….other than that it will be a dog fight betweem Lakers,sac,mavs and nuns

  • it depends, GSW,OKC,SAS,LAC,HOU,MEM,NOH….other than that it will be a dog fight betweem Lakers,sac,mavs and nuns

  • We already are tanking for Simmons haha. But now we will be doing it while developing our core.

  • We already are tanking for Simmons haha. But now we will be doing it while developing our core.

  • yup, the small nuances of the game…..unmeasurable nuances that confuse analytics guys because it just doesn’t show up in their algorithms lol ……… all the stats in the world can’t show effort and confidence and how to take it away from someone …….. you actually have to watch and understand what you are watching…… than maybe the numbers can make sense……

  • that was the assumption going into the season that that 8th spot was up for grabs, but honestly we already played sac n mavs who were to be weaker and nothing in those two games showed we’d even be in their league. I know its way early but you can tell how far a team has to go and if the grade is an F there isnt much higher imrovement to expect

  • yup, the small nuances of the game…..unmeasurable nuances that confuse analytics guys because it just doesn’t show up in their algorithms lol ……… all the stats in the world can’t show effort and confidence and how to take it away from someone …….. you actually have to watch and understand what you are watching…… than maybe the numbers can make sense……

  • that was the assumption going into the season that that 8th spot was up for grabs, but honestly we already played sac n mavs who were to be weaker and nothing in those two games showed we’d even be in their league. I know its way early but you can tell how far a team has to go and if the grade is an F there isnt much higher improvement to expect

  • No one is belittling anyone, well you are a little bit but I can handle it. I am trying to get it through your head that the score determines wins and losses. The goal is to score more than the opponent. I am trying to explain to you that our bench is scoring more than the opponents bench which is a good thing.

  • No one is belittling anyone, well you are a little bit but I can handle it. I am trying to get it through your head that the score determines wins and losses. The goal is to score more than the opponent. I am trying to explain to you that our bench is scoring more than the opponents bench which is a good thing.

  • and I’m trying top get thru to you that numbers can indeed mislead you …….. you can’t just look at bench scoring and say well my bench out6scored theirs…… at what time and place did the bench get used? what were the match ups within the game? this is not intramural sports where the second unit only plays against the second unit…..that’s to simple of an approach and that ids exactly how I view your interpretation of it until you actual form an argument that suggest you aren’t…….

  • and I’m trying top get thru to you that numbers can indeed mislead you …….. you can’t just look at bench scoring and say well my bench out6scored theirs…… at what time and place did the bench get used? what were the match ups within the game? this is not some HS intramural sports or house league pick up game where the second unit only plays against the second unit…..that’s to simple of an approach and that is exactly how I view your interpretation of it until you actually form an argument that suggest you aren’t……. I’m talking about flow and pace of a game,no numbers in the world are going to make an argument for that…that’s why numbers are blinding without some grasp of what you are watching, they can only help in context,they aren’t the context……

  • You are wrong about defense not showing up in analytics. IJS. What’s your problem with numbers? Everyone believes in Analytics but you these days.

    Usually offense comes first and defense follows just because offense is easier to do. One of the reasons the Lakers are failing right now is because as bad as Scott is, he is not even being true to his own system. If he was, neither Kobe nor Russell would be starting.

  • You are wrong about defense not showing up in analytics. IJS. What’s your problem with numbers? Everyone believes in Analytics but you these days.

    Usually offense comes first and defense follows just because offense is easier to do. One of the reasons the Lakers are failing right now is because as bad as Scott is, he is not even being true to his own system. If he was, neither Kobe nor Russell would be starting.

  • You are just whipping on anything that shows you are a boob. Shut up. Incendy is right. Pay attention.

  • no I do believe in analytics when it is analyzed thru the proper perspective ……. my problem is it isn’t always the case. A guy like Pop can use the data to adjust…… a regular joe can’t properly use it majority of the time if all they use is that with no lack of technique, spacing in respect to the offence you run and how your spacing can affect your transitional process within the game …….. under the right guidance it is a tool that can be used, it can also be misused with misguided knowledge……. example I gave someone is Richard Sherman in football….the analytics suggest he’s the 102nd best CB in the NFL…..now anyone who watches the game realizes that is just not the case but if you were ignorant to that and just used the analytics who would be the foolish one? some people just don;t actually accept that because the algorithm told them so. …….

  • You are just whipping on anything that shows you are a boob. Shut up. Incendy is right. Pay attention.

  • no I do believe in analytics when it is analyzed thru the proper perspective ……. my problem is it isn’t always the case. A guy like Pop can use the data to adjust…… a regular joe can’t properly use it majority of the time if all they use is that with no lack of technique, spacing in respect to the offence you run and how your spacing can affect your transitional process within the game …….. under the right guidance it is a tool that can be used, it can also be misused with misguided knowledge……. example I gave someone is Richard Sherman in football….the analytics suggest he’s the 102nd best CB in the NFL…..now anyone who watches the game realizes that is just not the case but if you were ignorant to that and just used the analytics who would be the foolish one? some people just don;t actually accept that because the algorithm told them so. …….

    offense does not come first …… offense comes and goes but your energy on the defensive end can get you thru that……. most nights just playing 50% of the floor will not compensate for lifeless, ineffective defensive rotations and that just the plain old truth ……. I’ve played this game up to a college level and I’ve coached at a HS level ……… you can’t just expect your offense to dictate your energy on the other end……that’s how you get in holes and quickly….. and how you blow huge leads late in games …… going by your logic than if I can make things difficult on that end of the floor I should be able to easily knock you off and win a game because you will not match it on your defensive end because what comes easier is all of a sudden dried up ……

    the easiest offence is transition offence ….but that is only created with defence and rebounding …… it’s advantageous to a truly winning coach to not give up the defensive end with your rotations to just compensate for the offensive end …….. This Lakers team for example, they have enough talent offensively to score, that is not an issue nor will it ever be …their problem is the other end and lack of knowledge, effort, ability and atrocious rotations that pretty much ignore the defensive end….when it really doesn’t have to be that way to the extent that is happening so far IMO.

  • Wrong again. You should be embarrassed.. What do you thing “Big Data” is all about?

  • Wrong again. You should be embarrassed.. What do you thing “Big Data” is all about?

  • great comment, people always resort to the numbers. numbers never explain what really happens on the court or field

  • great comment, people always resort to the numbers. numbers never explain what really happens on the court or field

  • I think he mean running the offence, not passing the basketball lol …. he is not initiating, dictating or controlling the offense and it’s flow…..he has given that role up for the development of the players which it shows ……. I’m pretty sure their would be a heck of a lot more pinch post ISOs fore himself IF he had his way….. he’s not …… he is following the company line….. now it’s time to let them adjust and hopefully for Scott to run proper rotations to give them a bit of a chance….

  • I think he mean running the offence, not passing the basketball lol …. he is not initiating, dictating or controlling the offense and it’s flow…..he has given that role up for the development of the players which it shows ……. I’m pretty sure their would be a heck of a lot more pinch post ISOs fore himself IF he had his way….. he’s not …… he is following the company line….. now it’s time to let them adjust and hopefully for Scott to run proper rotations to give them a bit of a chance….

  • Biggest takeaways from the game and the interviews are these;

    1- Randle was right they need to better their defense but most importantly they need to quit allowing teams to go on 10-0, 15-0 starts. like JR said they settled down and controlled huge chunks of the game and lost by 10 points so that 15-0 run to start the game was killer….
    2- Again on Randle, he’s going to be easily a top 10 PF by seasons end, he has the motivation, desire, talent and work ethic to be special.

    3-Again for the millionth time BS cannot continue to run Bass/Kelly out there because we’re getting killed for it.
    4- our bench scoring and overall play has been awesome minus that Bass/Kelly blackhole…
    5-D’Angelo Russell is finally being more aggressive, taking shots and making good passes although i wouldn’t be so eager to pass to Hibbert because the guy is below average offensively. I would love to see DLO attack the basket half the time or at least a quarter of the time…. In time those shots will begin to fall, also for those Emmanuel Mudiay fans the kid is playing no better than DLO so quit with the crying and be patient…
    6-Clarkson needs to really clamp down on defense because he’s getting killed, the first two games when Rubio and Rondo went off people tried to blame DLO but the truth is most of those points came against JC who either fails to make the switch and is caught far to often looking over his shoulder for the help…

    Overall we can see the potential and how easily the can create and score points the problem is the defense or lack their of, and piss poor game management and player rotations from coach Scott….. I see no reason to sit JR or JC when their hot ????? WTheF does he do that?????

  • Biggest takeaways from the game and the interviews are these;

    1- Randle was right they need to better their defense but most importantly they need to quit allowing teams to go on 10-0, 15-0 starts. like JR said they settled down and controlled huge chunks of the game and lost by 10 points so that 15-0 run to start the game was killer….
    2- Again on Randle, he’s going to be easily a top 10 PF by seasons end, he has the motivation, desire, talent and work ethic to be special.

    3-Again for the millionth time BS cannot continue to run Bass/Kelly out there because we’re getting killed for it.
    4- our bench scoring and overall play has been awesome minus that Bass/Kelly blackhole…
    5-D’Angelo Russell is finally being more aggressive, taking shots and making good passes although i wouldn’t be so eager to pass to Hibbert because the guy is below average offensively. I would love to see DLO attack the basket half the time or at least a quarter of the time…. In time those shots will begin to fall, also for those Emmanuel Mudiay fans the kid is playing no better than DLO so quit with the crying and be patient…
    6-Clarkson needs to really clamp down on defense because he’s getting killed, the first two games when Rubio and Rondo went off people tried to blame DLO but the truth is most of those points came against JC who either fails to make the switch and is caught far to often looking over his shoulder for the help…

    Overall we can see the potential and how easily they can create and score points the problem is the defense or lack their of, and piss poor game management and player rotations from coach Scott….. I see no reason to sit JR or JC when their hot ????? WTheF does he do that?????

  • I believ kobe is d type of person that reach to things by Earning it via a process. But right now i believ, its not js his shots are bricking, but his whole persona is down breaking. .to a point where im doubting if he s still the Legend i know.

    Usually wen u’ll bcome silver haired, old people will tend to long for their youthful days full of disdain wen we know for sure that things happen for a reason. Js ryt now he keeps blabbing bwt his missed rookie season of why he came out benched. And thats exactly whats happening to him ryt now.

    Perhaps his js human. And not the Legend id like to believe. Perhaps Vino is js a monicker to mask the Black Mamba. In denial that his not aging. And that is very human of animal nature. Not a transcendental transforming Legend all knowing. Remember he used to say this: “Not afraid to ask questions about something I don’t know. Not afraid to admit I don’t know something”. Now watch him turning this theme into more of a lie.

    Its showing on the court. Young guys are almost always in a confused mode. No game flow. Just keep on attacking. Become very predictable to opponents. Im in complete meltdown. Coz i used to marvel with his many games that evrytime he carries the ball down the enemys court his bringing with him variety of game arsenals, leaving the other 5 players no choice but to jump with him as he lifts to the air. Now this becomes nothing but a caricature. Its now not leaving imprint to the young ones. Theyre confused. Theyre not learning. Its not gonna be of a surprise that that young three will start banging, but with each other instead.

    What happens to earning what u deserve to have by undergoing to a process. I believ kobe has been there. But ryt now i believ his back pedaling. Disintegrating what we are proud of what he had become. Disintegrating what he had gone through js to accumulate that 20yrs worth of success no other player had reached. Now that his old and gray, by analogy, but it seem like his memories turn to gray. “..i js cant !” Very ironic..

    Js like MJs speech. Full of hate. Perhaps being a Legend out of NBA s js a by product of competition. I smell the artificial in the making. Very human ended.

  • I believ kobe is d type of person that reach to things by Earning it via a process. But right now i believ, its not js his shots are bricking, but his whole persona is down breaking. .to a point where im doubting if he s still the Legend i know.

    Usually wen u’ll bcome silver haired, old people will tend to long for their youthful days full of disdain wen we know for sure that things happen for a reason. Js ryt now he keeps blabbing bwt his missed rookie season of why he came out benched. And thats exactly whats happening to him ryt now.

    Perhaps his js human. And not the Legend id like to believe. Perhaps Vino is js a monicker to mask the Black Mamba. In denial that his not aging. And that is very human of animal nature. Not a transcendental transforming Legend all knowing. Remember he used to say this: “Not afraid to ask questions about something I don’t know. Not afraid to admit I don’t know something”. Now watch him turning this theme into more of a lie.

    Its showing on the court. Young guys are almost always in a confused mode. No game flow. Just keep on attacking. Become very predictable to opponents. Im in complete meltdown. Coz i used to marvel with his many games that evrytime he carries the ball down the enemys court his bringing with him variety of game arsenals, leaving the other 5 players no choice but to jump with him as he lifts to the air. Now this becomes nothing but a caricature. Its now not leaving imprint to the young ones. Theyre confused. Theyre not learning. Its not gonna be of a surprise that that young three will start banging, but with each other instead.

    What happens to earning what u deserve to have by undergoing to a process. I believ kobe has been there. But ryt now i believ his back pedaling. Disintegrating what we are proud of what he had become. Disintegrating what he had gone through js to accumulate that 20yrs worth of success no other player had reached. Now that his old and gray, by analogy, but it seem like his memories turn to gray. “..i js cant !” Very ironic..

    Js like MJs speech. Full of hate. Perhaps being a Legend out of NBA s js a by product of competition. I smell the artificial in the making. Very human indeed.

  • We don’t have to decide that now. I would like to see Brown and Nance split time at the 3 until one of them steps up and takes over. I also think either one of those guys could become a star down the road, not just a role player.

  • We don’t have to decide that now. I would like to see Brown and Nance split time at the 3 until one of them steps up and takes over. I also think either one of those guys could become a star down the road, not just a role player.

  • big data has Richard Sherman as the 102nd best defensive back in the NFL…..care to explain?

  • big data has Richard Sherman as the 102nd best defensive back in the NFL…..care to explain?

  • Indeed. It’s quotes like this: “Not afraid to ask questions about something I don’t know. Not afraid to admit I don’t know something” why Kobe has always inspired me and scores other fans. It’s a valid point that he probably feels guilty about not being able to help the youngsters enough. sometimes i want this whole journey to end just so people don’t have a reason to talk about Kobe. his legacy will always remain intact because fans like us remember for who HE REALLY IS.

  • Indeed. It’s quotes like this: “Not afraid to ask questions about something I don’t know. Not afraid to admit I don’t know something” why Kobe has always inspired me and scores other fans. It’s a valid point that he probably feels guilty about not being able to help the youngsters enough. sometimes i want this whole journey to end just so people don’t have a reason to talk about Kobe. his legacy will always remain intact because fans like us remember for who HE REALLY IS.

  • Indeed. It’s quotes like this: “Not afraid to ask questions about something I don’t know. Not afraid to admit I don’t know something” why Kobe has always inspired me and scores other fans. It’s a valid point that he probably feels guilty about not being able to help the youngsters enough. sometimes i want this whole journey to end just so people don’t have a reason to talk about Kobe. his legacy will always remain intact because fans like us remember for who HE REALLY IS.

  • You will never convince me that this Mike Brown Princeton failure of an offense is what these young players need. When are we going to learn the fast break?

    If somebody thinks it is better to let Russell come up to speed as a starter, I could not advise on the wisdom in that. I rather imagine, though, that Huertas is better suited to that role at the moment and Russell would be better off earning his way up from the bench playing against our opponent’s scrubs.

  • You will never convince me that this Mike Brown Princeton failure of an offense is what these young players need. When are we going to learn the fast break?

    If somebody thinks it is better to let Russell come up to speed as a starter, I could not advise on the wisdom in that. I rather imagine, though, that Huertas is better suited to that role at the moment and Russell would be better off earning his way up from the bench playing against our opponent’s scrubs.

  • he has? under Byron Scott he’s played an entire season at SF has he lol …….. you clearly know what you are talking about so I’ll defer to your recollection (sarcasm) …… he has played minutes there sure, it now being his full time position? no this is the first time under Scott, with these players, that he is solely a 3.

  • he has? under Byron Scott he’s played an entire season at SF has he lol …….. you clearly know what you are talking about so I’ll defer to your recollection (sarcasm) …… he has played minutes there sure, it now being his full time position? no this is the first time under Scott, with these players, that he is solely a 3…….
    The hole starting lineup is in the deep negatives …..12-0 and 15-0 starts go a long way to dictating that lol …….

  • agreed most all of this …….. can’t fast break if you can’t defend and rebound …especially the bench who you would like to really push the pace if it was possible …… that won’t happen when your paint area has an open door policy …… keep playing Ryan/Bass combo and that is exactly what it is.

  • agreed most all of this …….. can’t fast break if you can’t defend and rebound …especially the bench who you would like to really push the pace if it was possible …… that won’t happen when your paint area has an open door policy …… keep playing Ryan/Bass combo and that is exactly what it is. That combo is very ineffective on the defensive end and really hasn’t given you much offensively either when they are combined…… the fast break starts with defending and rebounding misses…… which is why defence should not be undervalued like many seem to like to do ……. bring it all the time on the defensive end it will help spark your offence and get you into great rhythm ……. but playing great rhythm on offence alone without decent defence can still get you beat, no matter how great you perceive your offence.

  • You don’t think a guy who has filled in at SF pretty much every season of his 20 years, and also was the backup SF in 2009/10 needs time to adapt to a system? It’s not like he is a rookie or anything. This has absolutely nothing to do with his position. He can no longer physically do what he used to, that is the real thing he cannot adapt to. In the first quarter after the first timeout, Kobe went ISO, dribbled the ball for 11 seconds, realized he could not get by his man and threw up a ridiculous shot that hit the top of the backboard. That had nothing to do with his position, and everything to do with his age.

  • Right. And that’s how you teach young players WHY to defend. Still, carping about who plays 2nd string PF is pointless when Kobe is shooting us out of games as a starter. Kobe is demoralizing this team.

    The Lakers stink from Jim Buss down and will not get better until he gets shit-canned.

  • You don’t think a guy who has filled in at SF pretty much every season of his 20 years, and also was the backup SF in 2009/10 needs time to adapt to a system? It’s not like he is a rookie or anything. This has absolutely nothing to do with his position. He can no longer physically do what he used to, that is the real thing he cannot adapt to. In the first quarter after the first timeout, Kobe went ISO, dribbled the ball for 11 seconds, realized he could not get by his man and threw up a ridiculous shot that hit the top of the backboard. That had nothing to do with his position, and everything to do with his age.

  • Right. And that’s how you teach young players WHY to defend. Still, carping about who plays 2nd string PF is pointless when Kobe is shooting us out of games as a starter. Kobe is demoralizing this team.

    The Lakers stink from Jim Buss down and will not get better until he gets shit-canned.

  • totally agree about Jim Buss …….. as far as Bryant, there is an easy solution and that’s who is running the offence these days? Bryant is not calling his own shots anymore and I don’t see him winning for touches either…..he’s getting those looks early because the offset is flowing in that direction……. Russell will learn but make no mistake Bryant is not calling the shots anymore….look at where the majority of shots and touches are relative to when he was…… it’s different now because he has taken a back seat …….. Bryant has to be more effective when the offence goes his way but really he’s getting those early looks from the floor general ……. that isn’t Bryant anymore.

  • totally agree about Jim Buss …….. as far as Bryant, there is an easy solution and that’s who is running the offence these days? Bryant is not calling his own shots anymore and I don’t see him whining for touches either…..he’s getting those looks early because the offence is flowing in that direction……. Russell will learn(or maybe it’s Byron dictating those play sets) but make no mistake Bryant is not calling the shots anymore….look at where the majority of shots and touches are relative to when he was…… it’s different now because he has taken a back seat …….. Bryant has to be more effective when the offence goes his way but really he’s getting those early looks from the floor general ……. that isn’t Bryant anymore. …… last night there were times where combo sets of certain players got them back within 9 than the Kelly/Bass combo comes out and they get torched inside and on the boards …….. it all matters…… flow of a game matters……. this is not just about Bryant, it’s not even his team anymore….that much is clear with the lack of ISO pinch post calls and deep post calls….all trademarks of a Bryant ran offense …… not what we are seeing right now, not even close.

  • No kidding. Mitch built a team like GSW and they run an offense like Memphis. WTF???

    Byron could WATCH GSW all he wants, but he doesn’t understand GSW.

    We would be well served to try to get Luke Walton back down here next year to coach the Lakers.

  • No kidding. Mitch built a team like GSW and they run an offense like Memphis. WTF???

    Byron could WATCH GSW all he wants, but he doesn’t understand GSW.

    We would be well served to try to get Luke Walton back down here next year to coach the Lakers.

  • Get off of Kelly, dufus. He is a second string PF. Meanwhile, Bryant is killing us as a starter.

  • Get off of Kelly, dufus. He is a second string PF. Meanwhile, Bryant is killing us as a starter.

  • Will you pea brains quit worrying about the 2nd string? It is the 1st string that is stinking up the place.

  • Will you pea brains quit worrying about the 2nd string? It is the 1st string that is stinking up the place.

  • Ye especially with his 3/13 or 1/8 from 3PT. Even best 3pt shooters rarely takes so many shots, Bryant was never great 3PT shooter and now he’s terrible. So many 3PT attempts only proves how low IQ player he is.

  • Ye especially with his 3/13 or 1/8 from 3PT. Even best 3pt shooters rarely takes so many shots, Bryant was never great 3PT shooter and now he’s terrible. So many 3PT attempts only proves how low IQ player he is.

  • sorry if I’m insulting your obvious family member …….. defending Ryan Kelly lmfao …. he won’t even be a Laker a year from now nor has he done anything for the franchise over his career ……..

  • sorry if I’m insulting your obvious family member …….. defending Ryan Kelly lmfao …. he won’t even be a Laker a year from now nor has he done anything for the franchise over his career ……..

  • Say whatever you want about my grandson but Kelly is playing better than Kobe and Russell right now. Why don’t you worry about that? Or Metta or Sacre?

    Some second stringer is not what is wrong with the Lakers right now. Wise up. Nobody but you cares about Kelly.

  • Say whatever you want about my grandson but Kelly is playing better than Kobe and Russell right now. Why don’t you worry about that? Or Metta or Sacre?

    Some second stringer is not what is wrong with the Lakers right now. Wise up. Nobody but you cares about Kelly.

  • If you’re talking Wizards, he obviously wasn’t the same Jordan at 39~40. That’s not what’s being debated. But his performance still got much better after he had some time to get back into it after coming out of retirement and being years away from the game.

    If you compare his numbers from the 01/02 season to the 02/03 season, his FG% went up from 41% to 45%, his 3P% went up from 18% to 29%, his FT% went up from 79% to 82%. His shooting got better across the board.

    You can even look at his performance drop after his first retirement. He was away from the game for over a year and comes back in 94/95. Comparing his 94/95 season to his 95/96 season, his FG% went from 41% to 49%, his FT% went from 80% to 83% and his PPG went from 26ppg to 30ppg.

    All this to prove that a performance drop is to be EXPECTED when someone’s been away from the game for a while, which Kobe has been. He’s obviously battling age and injury but those are not the only things at play here. Rust is a real issue that can be brushed off after a while is the main point of my argument. So I’d give it time to see where he will stand after being back for a while.

  • If you’re talking Wizards, he obviously wasn’t the same Jordan at 39. That’s not what’s being debated. But his performance still got much better after he had some time to get back into it after coming out of retirement and being years away from the game.

    If you compare his numbers from the 01/02 season to the 02/03 season, his FG% went up from 41% to 45%, his 3P% went up from 18% to 29%, his FT% went up from 79% to 82%. His shooting got better across the board.

    You can even look at his performance drop after his first retirement. He was away from the game for over a year and comes back in 94/95. Comparing his 94/95 season to his 95/96 season, his FG% went from 41% to 49%, his FT% went from 80% to 83% and his PPG went from 26ppg to 30ppg.

    All this to prove that a performance drop is to be EXPECTED when someone’s been away from the game for a while, which Kobe has been. He’s obviously battling age and injury but those are not the only things at play here. Rust is a real issue that can be brushed off after a while is the main point of my argument. So I’d give it time to see where he will stand after being back for a while.

  • The La Laker made a huge mistake by not drafting Jahlil Okafor. Had they draft Okafor, they would have been a winning team right now, and I mean playoff bound.

  • The La Laker made a huge mistake by not drafting Jahlil Okafor. Had they draft Okafor, they would have been a winning team right now, and I mean playoff bound.

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