Lakers Nation Roundtable: Was L.A. Right In Releasing Robert Upshaw?
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Even going as far back as the pre-draft process, Los Angeles Lakers fans have long had their eye on massive center Robert Upshaw. Despite his well known off-court issues, many fans were intrigued with his size and defensive potential with some even wanting the Lakers to take him with their late first round pick.

The team passed on Upshaw in the draft, but when Upshaw went undrafted, the Lakers quickly signed him to their summer league roster, sparking a lot of excitement amongst the fan base. Upshaw was admittedly out of shape and made very little impact during the summer, but the Lakers still brought him into training camp.

It was assumed that Upshaw would battle fourth-year center Robert Sacre for a backup center position in what would likely be the final spot on the roster. In fact, many believed that Upshaw’s potential would win out over the known commodity in Sacre. As such it came as a bit of a surprise when Upshaw was one of the first cuts of training camp, along with guard Michael Frazier II.

The move led to a number of questions and frustrated fans as many wondered why the Lakers would choose to bypass the tremendous potential of Upshaw in favor of the mediocre-at-best Sacre. We asked our panel of experts whether they believe the Lakers made the right decision in releasing Robert Upshaw. This is what they had to say:

Jabari Davis (@JabariDavisNBA): As a fan of the potential that seems to be there with Upshaw, the move made little-to-no sense upon first hearing of the decision. LakersNation caught up with him at Media Day, and not only was the work he put into his body after going undrafted evident, but he also appeared to be in precisely the type of focused and determined headspace you’d want to see from an unproven, young big man.

The trouble is, we are not always privy to what is taking place behind-the-scenes and -in particular with Upshaw- it appears there may still not have been enough going on to warrant an NBA roster spot at this time.

If the reports of Upshaw failing to spend the additional time after practices to not only reduce his learning curve but continue to work on reshaping his body happen to be true, then the decision makes a lot more sense. What we have to remind ourselves is that even though the potential may be there, the team took a risk 29 other organizations were not as willing to take in even attempting to develop Upshaw, and has likely been monitoring his professional progress and personal development with a lot more detail and information than any of us would have.

Do I understand the thought process of wanting to further explore what Upshaw might turn into? Of course. If he clears waivers, which is definitely a possibility given the circumstances, then (like the coaching staff) I’d like to see him stick near the city and organization while playing for the D-Fenders.

Even though he’d technically be a free agent that any NBA team would be free to sign at any point, it would be nice to be able to continue keeping close tabs on his progress and maintain the relationship along the way.

Corey Hansford (@TheeCoreyH): I’ll start this off by saying that I really wanted to see Upshaw on this roster. My hope was that he would overtake Sacre for that final spot on the roster and would develop into a defensive force in due time.

That being said, the Lakers made the right choice in letting him go.

This wouldn’t even be a discussion if not for the insane amount of hatred that has come up for Sacre. The hatred is so strong that, in my opinion, people have looked past exactly what Robert Upshaw is, an undrafted, unproven, extremely raw center. Guys in Upshaw’s position have to TAKE a roster spot, especially when going head-to-head with a player on a guaranteed deal and Upshaw failed to do that despite getting every opportunity to do so.

Upshaw played more total minutes than Sacre and Tarik Black his direct competition for backup center spots as well as fellow undrafted rookies Michael Frazier II and Johnathan Holmes, the latter of which made only two appearances. Outside of a blocked shot, a good-looking fadeaway, and a nice pump fake and drive, Upshaw showed little of substance.

Some might point towards Sacre not doing much either, but that would be missing the point. Upshaw is playing from behind as a non-guaranteed guy and to be on equal level with Sacre is not good enough, and the argument could be made that Sacre outplayed him. He must show without a shadow of a doubt that he is worth a spot over Sacre and he failed in that regard.

All of this is before bringing up the reports of Upshaw not putting in extra work outside of practice. Hopefully he figures things out and fulfills his potential, but as for right now, Upshaw didn’t do enough on the court to warrant remaining with the Lakers.

Trevor Lane (@Trevor_Lane): For much of the Lakers preaseason the roster discussion centered around the perceived battle between Robert Upshaw and Robert Sacre for a spot as a third-string big man. Fans overwhelmingly favored Upshaw and his massive potential, hoping that he could move past his personal problems and become the rim protector of the future for the club.

It wasn’t just optimism towards Upshaw that was fueling fans allegiances though. Something of a disdain for Sacre has also developed amongst Lakers fans, who have tired of his celebratory antics and stagnant on-court development. Sacre represented a known commodity that was a good fit for team chemistry, but his upside is extremely limited, while Upshaw was a mystery box that could have become anything from a chemistry-killing malcontent to an All-Star piece.

The Lakers somewhat surprisingly went with Sacre. An argument can certainly made that, given the number of young players on LA’s roster, they need an abundance of positive role models on the team, and Sacre is just that. He is limited both offensively and defensively, but plays hard and is a solid presence in the locker room. Players like D’Angelo Russell, Larry Nance Jr., and Anthony Brown need guys like that to look up to, and with rumors that the Lakers were scared off by some of Upshaw’s issues the decision is understandable.

Still, the gamble on Upshaw felt like one that the Lakers needed to take. With Tarik Black, Roy Hibbert, and even Brandon Bass available to play center there is little chance that either Sacre or Upshaw would have been asked to play much this year. With that being the case, why not take a shot on the guy with the insanely long wingspan (7’5.5) and the reputation for blocking everything that comes into his path?

Isn’t that exactly the kind of player a rebuilding team should be taking a chance on, regardless of how raw he is presently? Rebuilding teams have the luxury of swinging for the fences on players with upside, yet here the Lakers opted to act as a contending team would be keeping the known commodity.

Of course we can’t judge the Lakers too harshly here, because no one knows the full extent of Upshaw’s issues like they do. It’s also possible that Upshaw ultimately ends up on the D-Fenders, where he can continue his growth while playing plenty of minutes and eventually find his way back to the Lakers. However, from an outside perspective it does appear that cutting Upshaw was a mistake.

No.

  1. I appreciate Trevor Lane’s honesty. Best comment of the bunch.

    We had NO risk by keeping Upshaw.

    1. Signing upshsw would mean we lost a roster spot. And this team doesn’t have t he luxury of burning a spot for an project with major red flags.

      So the risk is depth, winning games, and the development of another player.

      Everyone here operates on the assumption that Upshaw will reach his potential…. maybe the team didn’t agree or think it was worth giving him a shot (and failing).

      Being not ready for the NBA is ok, but being not ready with serious flags about motivation, focus and drugs is another.

        1. excatly the dude can shoot jumpers and dunk and block shots.
          3 things that sacre cant do.
          that right there makes him worth keeping alone!
          not to mention everything else upshaw brings to the table….

        2. I don’t believe that Upshaw will pan out, anyway. I think he was a low character man-child that came in out of shape and with a small sample size in college, where he was kicked off TWO programs. He’s in the D-league, and that’s ACTUALLY no risk. Can’t put him on a roster.

      1. Upshaw is a little risk and big upside and a no lose situation. Why keep Sacre when he has been here for years and I still see no improvement.What is the risk? I rather have untaped potential than to keep someone who has no potentials.

      2. you talk like we have a chance at actually putting together a respectful season this year. Please …..Kobe is done! Hes been injured for 3 years. Hibbert has NO offense! Zero!! and all the other starters are rooks. To say we have limited space on a bottom of the conference roster is illogical. So what does this precious roster spot get us by releasing a potential talent in Upshaw for a proven stuffed shirt like Sacre? an extra W in the win column? if that!! as we still hover at the bottom of the conference with no hope of a playoff bid. Upshaw is a gamble but at least there is a pay off at the end if Upshaw performs. What upside do we have with Sacre? We have invested 4 years in the guy with NO results! He still sucks. No O and can’t defend the rim, even at 7ft and no one in the NBA believes he will be any better than he is today. So where is the payoff for Sacre? There is none. There is no upside. He is like a 2nd or 3rd string QB that is there just in case the world blows up and will never be expected to win a game if called upon. What is the point?

        1. Amen. We are rebuilding and Sacre is pretty useless. Letting Upshaw learn behind Hibbert defensive skills would go a long way to exploiting Upshaw’s strengths.This is yet another dumb move on the front offices part. If he could be developed we could have a core of Russell, Clarkson, Randle, and Upshaw and add in a superstar through free agency and not screw that up, would make for a sweet squad.

      3. Correct me if I’m wrong, but depth isn’t much of an issue on a night by night basis (they can only field 11 players a game, what are the chances of two bigs going down same night), and if they signed Upshaw, couldn’t he play in the D-League, be unpoachable, and be called up if/as needed?

      4. so you are basing your argument on rumors, so how many times did Sacre stay after and work extra hrs because he surely hasn’t shown any or much improvement over 3-4 yrs and since there is no known fact about Upshaw returning to his old habits again your basing your facts on what, just hearsay or do you know for a fact that what you post is true and if it was true do you really think the lakers would entertain the thought of signing Upshaw on the Dleague, that doesn’t ring true to me either, so what assumptions are you basing your facts or opinons ????

    2. If he was not willing to put in that extra work before and after practice like all the other payers means he was not willing to work for his poss. and did not earn a spot on the LAKERS, work is what he needed but he had n o interest LAKERS BB is not a 9 to 5 job.

      1. and where are you getting your facts regarding his training schedule, maybe he still has to attend consoling appointments to help with his past issues, there is nowhere that I can find where Byron or the FO has said that Upshaw leaves early and has no interest or not willing to put in the extra work, can you find somewhere where it says that Sacre was putting in extra work,if he has it sure hasn’t helped him.

    3. it was a seriously dumb move. i’m not saying he deserved a roster spot and playing minutes. the least they could have done is keep him as the 15th member and demoted him to d-league. either way, i don’t think we’ll take more than 14 to the regular season. that 15th spot was upshaw’s. i’m still baffled as to how the FO can be this stupid.

    4. dude they freakin dropped upshaw but kept sacre.
      the same idiot who fouled a 3 point shooter and almost cost us a game.
      why is sacre still on the team?
      and why is upshaw GONE?
      cmon LAKERS your better than this fix this damn it!

      1. Exactly. Was Upshhaw NBA ready? Definitely not. If he had been beaten out by more talented centers I’d have understood. But to let go of a guy with so much raw potential in a rebuilding year, for Sacre?! WTF.. They could’ve made him the 15th man on the roster and let him develop in the D-league and ensure us keeping his rights. Sacre will never be a viable option as an NBA center. To drop what could be a diamond in the rough for a scrap of c r a p, its very disheartening. They could’ve let him sit back this year and develop, if they had a problem with him not staying after practice, they could’ve told him to work harder. This was a short sighted and disappointing move, lucky he cleared waivers.

    1. I appreciate Trevor Lane’s honesty. Best comment of the bunch.

      We had NO risk by keeping Upshaw.

      1. Signing upshsw would mean we lost a roster spot. And this team doesn’t have t he luxury of burning a spot for an project with major red flags.

        So the risk is depth, winning games, and the development of another player.

        Everyone here operates on the assumption that Upshaw will reach his potential…. maybe the team didn’t agree or think it was worth giving him a shot (and failing).

        Being not ready for the NBA is ok, but being not ready with serious flags about motivation, focus and drugs is another.

        1. A substitution for Sacres spot is not a loss of a roster spot.

          Those alleged “flags” you mention have not been addressed by the FO, and as of now all they are are unfair allegations.

          1. excatly the dude can shoot jumpers and dunk and block shots.
            3 things that sacre cant do.
            that right there makes him worth keeping alone!
            not to mention everything else upshaw brings to the table….

          2. I don’t believe that Upshaw will pan out, anyway. I think he was a low character man-child that came in out of shape and with a small sample size in college, where he was kicked off TWO programs. He’s in the D-league, and that’s ACTUALLY no risk. Can’t put him on a roster.

        2. Upshaw is a little risk and big upside and a no lose situation. Why keep Sacre when he has been here for years and I still see no improvement.What is the risk? I rather have untaped potential than to keep someone who has no potentials.

        3. you talk like we have a chance at actually putting together a respectful season this year. Please …..Kobe is done! Hes been injured for 3 years. Hibbert has NO offense! Zero!! and all the other starters are rooks. To say we have limited space on a bottom of the conference roster is illogical. So what does this precious roster spot get us by releasing a potential talent in Upshaw for a proven stuffed shirt like Sacre? an extra W in the win column? if that!! as we still hover at the bottom of the conference with no hope of a playoff bid. Upshaw is a gamble but at least there is a pay off at the end if Upshaw performs. What upside do we have with Sacre? We have invested 4 years in the guy with NO results! He still sucks. No O and can’t defend the rim, even at 7ft and no one in the NBA believes he will be any better than he is today. So where is the payoff for Sacre? There is none. There is no upside. He is like a 2nd or 3rd string QB that is there just in case the world blows up and will never be expected to win a game if called upon. What is the point?

          1. Amen. We are rebuilding and Sacre is pretty useless. Letting Upshaw learn behind Hibbert defensive skills would go a long way to exploiting Upshaw’s strengths.This is yet another dumb move on the front offices part. If he could be developed we could have a core of Russell, Clarkson, Randle, and Upshaw and add in a superstar through free agency and not screw that up, would make for a sweet squad.

        4. Correct me if I’m wrong, but depth isn’t much of an issue on a night by night basis (they can only field 11 players a game, what are the chances of two bigs going down same night), and if they signed Upshaw, couldn’t he play in the D-League, be unpoachable, and be called up if/as needed?

        5. so you are basing your argument on rumors, so how many times did Sacre stay after and work extra hrs because he surely hasn’t shown any or much improvement over 3-4 yrs and since there is no known fact about Upshaw returning to his old habits again your basing your facts on what, just hearsay or do you know for a fact that what you post is true and if it was true do you really think the lakers would entertain the thought of signing Upshaw on the Dleague, that doesn’t ring true to me either, so what assumptions are you basing your facts or opinons ????

      2. If he was not willing to put in that extra work before and after practice like all the other payers means he was not willing to work for his poss. and did not earn a spot on the LAKERS, work is what he needed but he had n o interest LAKERS BB is not a 9 to 5 job.

        1. and where are you getting your facts regarding his training schedule, maybe he still has to attend consoling appointments to help with his past issues, there is nowhere that I can find where Byron or the FO has said that Upshaw leaves early and has no interest or not willing to put in the extra work, can you find somewhere where it says that Sacre was putting in extra work,if he has it sure hasn’t helped him.

      3. it was a seriously dumb move. i’m not saying he deserved a roster spot and playing minutes. the least they could have done is keep him as the 15th member and demoted him to d-league. either way, i don’t think we’ll take more than 14 to the regular season. that 15th spot was upshaw’s. i’m still baffled as to how the FO can be this stupid.

      4. dude they freakin dropped upshaw but kept sacre.
        the same idiot who fouled a 3 point shooter and almost cost us a game.
        why is sacre still on the team?
        and why is upshaw GONE?
        cmon LAKERS your better than this fix this damn it!

        1. Exactly. Was Upshhaw NBA ready? Definitely not. If he had been beaten out by more talented centers I’d have understood. But to let go of a guy with so much raw potential in a rebuilding year, for Sacre?! WTF.. They could’ve made him the 15th man on the roster and let him develop in the D-league and ensure us keeping his rights. Sacre will never be a viable option as an NBA center. To drop what could be a diamond in the rough for a scrap of c r a p, its very disheartening. They could’ve let him sit back this year and develop, if they had a problem with him not staying after practice, they could’ve told him to work harder. This was a short sighted and disappointing move, lucky he cleared waivers.

  • Me personally i would rather have Robert Upshaw over Robert Sacre but thats from a fan perspective, From a coach and GM perspective i have learned to trust Mitch Kupchak opinion and decisions due to the fact he has often been right and has a track record of knowing what he is doing. I think Robert is on the right track but i think B.Scott and Mitch haven’t seen enough that proves that Upshaw want to be great, of course he lost weight but maybe its something that we don’t see that shows Mitch other wise like him sometimes looking lost of defense. Lakers have turned down and traded a lot of players that we liked but long term look how their careers go down hill once they leave or have been passed on due to drug addiction, injuries, love for the game, etc. Robert Upshaw still can still prove himself through Dleague but he has to want it and keep working hard and make a lot of noise in D league, post up and call for the ball in the paint.

    1. If he had shown interest in putting in that extra work, along with the rest of the team he may have got that shot, but if he showed no interest in working extra hard , why would they want him, this is his own fault, not SACRES he does put in the extra work.

  • I don’t agree with waiving him. If you’re concerned with making sure you have a good “locker-room” guy out of your 15th player, that speaks volumes of the lack of leadership with your #1 guy (Kobe). The potential was just too much to pass up. Especially since they still stand to give up 2 first round picks in the coming years due to Nash and Howard trades (the gifts that keep giving).

    1. Speaking of speaking volumes, the way you word your post speaks volumes about your jealousy of our legend Kobe Bryant.

      What does Kobe have to do with this article, nothing. Yet, you look to find a way to put his personality down.

      How much time did you spend in the locker room with Kobe before you made that determination?

      I think I will take Russells, Randles, Clarksons, Mettas, Hibberts, and everyone elses opinion of Kobe over your fabricated, hate inspired, opinion of Kobe.

  • Me personally i would rather have Robert Upshaw over Robert Sacre but thats from a fan perspective, From a coach and GM perspective i have learned to trust Mitch Kupchak opinion and decisions due to the fact he has often been right and has a track record of knowing what he is doing. I think Robert is on the right track but i think B.Scott and Mitch haven’t seen enough that proves that Upshaw want to be great, of course he lost weight but maybe its something that we don’t see that shows Mitch other wise like him sometimes looking lost of defense. Lakers have turned down and traded a lot of players that we liked but long term look how their careers go down hill once they leave or have been passed on due to drug addiction, injuries, love for the game, etc. Robert Upshaw still can still prove himself through Dleague but he has to want it and keep working hard and make a lot of noise in D league, post up and call for the ball in the paint.

    1. If he had shown interest in putting in that extra work, along with the rest of the team he may have got that shot, but if he showed no interest in working extra hard , why would they want him, this is his own fault, not SACRES he does put in the extra work.

  • I don’t agree with waiving him. If you’re concerned with making sure you have a good “locker-room” guy out of your 15th player, that speaks volumes of the lack of leadership with your #1 guy (Kobe). The potential was just too much to pass up. Especially since they still stand to give up 2 first round picks in the coming years due to Nash and Howard trades (the gifts that keep giving).

    1. Speaking of speaking volumes, the way you word your post speaks volumes about your jealousy of our legend Kobe Bryant.

      What does Kobe have to do with this article, nothing. Yet, you look to find a way to put his personality down.

      How much time did you spend in the locker room with Kobe before you made that determination?

      I think I will take Russells, Randles, Clarksons, Mettas, Hibberts, and everyone elses opinion of Kobe over your fabricated, hate inspired, opinion of Kobe.

  • of course it was the right move upshaw was terrible but dont say that to some laker fans because they’ll tell you upshaw has upside lol

      1. Sacre.

        Upshaw still looks like he’d be lost among Summer League players.

        Are you trying to win games or field a team of develmental dleague guys?

        1. NO you can’t honestly believe that Sacre is better JT!

          OK thats your opinion, I’ll respect it but I cant buy it.

          1. just think for a moment, Sacre barely played in the fiba tournament, that shows how good of basketball player he is.

          2. like how he fouled that 3 point shooter and almost cost us the game?
            upshaw didnt do that yet he got cut…..
            why the fk is sacre still here???????
            who is running the Lakers right now?
            cmon man……….

        2. That was expected of a rookie but how have Sacre improved over the years? Sacre have not improved a bit. Would you rather have someone that is most likely not going to improve or would you rather have someone who have lot’s of upside?

          1. You are missing the whole picture UPSHAW did not show that he wanted to win that spot, that is what the FO is saying-show us you want it, it is black and white just show us.

  • of course it was the right move upshaw was terrible but dont say that to some laker fans because they’ll tell you upshaw has upside lol

      1. Sacre.

        Upshaw still looks like he’d be lost among Summer League players.

        Are you trying to win games or field a team of develmental dleague guys?

        1. NO you can’t honestly believe that Sacre is better JT!

          OK thats your opinion, I’ll respect it but I cant buy it.

          1. just think for a moment, Sacre barely played in the fiba tournament, that shows how good of basketball player he is.

          2. like how he fouled that 3 point shooter and almost cost us the game?
            upshaw didnt do that yet he got cut…..
            why the fk is sacre still here???????
            who is running the Lakers right now?
            cmon man……….

        2. That was expected of a rookie but how have Sacre improved over the years? Sacre have not improved a bit. Would you rather have someone that is most likely not going to improve or would you rather have someone who have lot’s of upside?

          1. You are missing the whole picture UPSHAW did not show that he wanted to win that spot, that is what the FO is saying-show us you want it, it is black and white just show us.

  • “Something of a disdain for Sacre has also developed amongst Lakers fans, who have tired of his celebratory antics…” Really? “Antics”? What’s wrong with cheering your teammates on? These “antics” are just something we fans highlight as his only talents due to his suckiness on the court.

    1. I personally dont care for Sacre as a long time Laker fan.. But its due to his lack of talent.. not his celebrating…

  • “Something of a disdain for Sacre has also developed amongst Lakers fans, who have tired of his celebratory antics…” Really? “Antics”? What’s wrong with cheering your teammates on? These “antics” are just something we fans highlight as his only talents due to his suckiness on the court.

    1. I personally dont care for Sacre as a long time Laker fan.. But its due to his lack of talent.. not his celebrating…

  • “despite getting every opportunity to do so”. Let’s look at Robert Upshaw’s massive 54 minutes of “opportunity” over a four game span and do some actual journalism.

    Robert Upshaw got 25 minutes in his first game against the Raptors(Did not play at all in the first two games) – the only time he played more than a quarter in any game, he played in a unit featuring no point guard and played alongside rookies, Holmes and Nance Jr, he recorded 3-4 shooting and two blocks with 8 points, this was the game where Lou Williams’ allowed Cory Joseph to just run into the paint uncontested all game, despite this. Upshaw blocked his shot twice. (For the record this was actually Upshaw’s most impressive game)

    In his second game, against the lowly Maccabi, Upshaw only played the final 7 minutes of beyond garbage time with a unit consisting of Frazier, J Brown, MWP and Nance Jr, once again no point guard.

    Upshaw did not play the following loss to the Kings.

    Upshaw played next against the Warriors for 10 minutes in the third(final quarter), in a unit consisting of Frazier, Nance Jr, MWP and Clarkson – again no point guard, Clarkson was playing hero ball this game and did not record a single assist. All the while playing the majority of his minutes against a Warriors semi first unit as they were trying to get back in the game, with Curry Ezeli and Iquodala. This same game Robert Sacre also gets a quarter but with Huertas.

    In Upshaw’s final game, he again got one quarter of action in a unit consisting of Clarkson, Frazier, Young, Nance Jr against the Trailblazers first unit. Once again, no real point guard, and Upshaw gets 4 fouls because Lillard is blowing by Clarkson with ease. In the same game Sacre also gets twelve minutes, but is afforded both Huertas and DLo in his time on the court, all the while dealing with the penetration of Phil Pressey. He proceeds to lose the Lakers a six point lead.

    I dispute the notion that Upshaw has been afforded every opportunity. To me it seems like he has been marginalized from the get go, likely from Byron Scott and his policy towards his ‘favorites’, he did not see a single minute of action with either of the Lakers’ two actual passing point guards, played the majority of his minutes sometimes against the opposing teams’ first unit point guards, while Sacre has been afforded the opportunity of Huertas and DLo making him look “special”.

    For the record, in the 4 games Upshaw played the Lakers won 3, I’m not saying he contributed meaningfully or anything, but surely his presence means more than what basically is the highest paid mascot in the NBA (Sacre)

    1. Really?
      The team gave him an opportunity, and more minutes than the guys who were his competition. When things settled he wasn’t good enough. He had a poor work ethic and the guys getting paid to make the decision unanimously agreed.

      And to boot, and validate the team’s decision, he is STILL unsigned — so 29 other GM’s don’t think he’s worth a spot on the or roster.

      Maybe you need to look at what paid guys see, know, and think more than your own brick wall rant. You saw him for 54 minutes, while the lakers have nearly 6 months.

      1. You obviously didn’t even read what I typed, so please don’t respond to me. Don’t bring up the no one has picked up Upshaw yet, Oct 26th is the final roster cut for teams Only then can teams generally begin picking up guys who have been cut from other teams.

        1. Who reads a wall of useless text when someone is ranting as an armchair GM?

          If he isn’t signed by today, he won’t be signed. Teams don’t wait until the day before roster cuts to add a guy to their final roster. If Upshaw were a commodity he wouldn’t have cleared waivers on a non-guaranteed, veteran minimum contract ( or be a free agent today). — It seems you are a bit misinformed about contracts, roster dates, and free agency.

          Somehow you also missed that the team was disappointed that Upshaw left practice most days without staying after to work on things.

          1. Utter tosh, example: Clippers cut Joe Ingles last season, he was picked up by the Jazz two days after the final roster cut.

          2. You are the same one that wanted Okafor over Towns..You don’t have any credibility.

          3. If that were true, which I doubt, regarding Upshaw’s practice regimen, don’t you think BS would have talked to him before the end of preseason, no one knows what happened, you just base your fact on rumors that are not fact, Byron did not mention anything about cutting Upshaw because he skipped out on his training and even so didn’t Byron state that he wanted the best 15 on the roster, well Upshaws performance compared to Sacre’s dictates that Upshaw is the better athlete of the two, so is Byron lying or is Byron a poor judge on talent, along with his poor coaching !!!!!

          4. “armchair GM”, how exactly can you call me an armchair GM, when all I did was point out what happened on the court, meanwhile you are pointing out a bunch of incorrect nonsense about contracts and what occurred after practices. So who is the real armchair General Manager here? You should seriously have actually read it, it may change your opinion, unlikely though, as you still think Tarik Black will get cut. Hilarious.

    2. Excellent read. I agree, he was clearly set up to fail in his last game. Sacre had to deal with pressey. Yet Upshaw grabbed more rebounds.

      Sacre in fact was afforded opportunities to redeem himself after games in which he by himself gave the other team an opportunity to win.

      Clearly an example of favoritism.

    3. Did you bother to think the BS and the FO saw no extra work before the practice and no extra work after practice, and they just might have lost interest its not their job to tell the players to do what they all do extra work, that’s what they want and what they look for.

      1. That is pure speculation about the whole practice thing. The guy lost 23 pounds, he was clearly doing the work. Isn’t it the coach’s job to tell the players what to do, and what he expects them to do when he isn’t there? Isn’t that the definition of their job? If after being told to work harder after practice and THEN he didn’t, that’s another story. But again Byron never said it was a practice issue, he said it was because “he had too much to learn”, as in ‘I’m too lazy to bother teaching him’. What has all the extra work Robert Sacre supposedly put in every training accomplished? He can spin the towel faster? It reeks of pure favoritism.

    4. I can see that your “momma liked you best” skills were honed against older brothers while you were still in your bed-wetting years. I am not saying you haven’t contributed meaningfully to this conversation, but the folks who had to make this decision got to observe Upshaw 24/7 during Summer League and all of preseason everyday during practice, not just the 54 minutes you claimed you zeroed in on him.

      What could they have noticed that you didn’t? Did Upshaw set the screens and picks this offense requires firmly and on time? Did he do his job in the PnR? Did he box out on defense and grab his share of rebounds? Did he rotate properly and in a timely manner for “help” defense? Did he recover quickly? Do I have to tell you the answers?

      I like Upshaw a lot, but he plays “hero ball.” His comprehension of TEAM basketball is non-existent. He needs time watching film with someone who does know. He needs time to learn the fundamentals he missed in high school and college.

      I want the Lakers to invest in Upshaw. I might not have cut the guy, but I understand why he was.

      1. You also likely failed to read what I typed. You go on to mention Upshaw playing Hero ball and not team ball, yet look at the units he played in, were there ANY team players there? This is after all a rookie. You ask a lot of questions of a rookie but you could also ask those questions of 4th Year Robert Sacre, what exactly does the FO and coaching staff notice that I didn’t about him? Can he set screens? Does he box out? Grab Rebounds? Can he even catch the ball? In fact you could ask a lot of these questions about the entire Lakers squad, because they have all looked rather lost on both ends wouldn’t you say? I don’t know why he was cut, and Robert Sacre is still a Laker. The whole point of it was how come Robert Sacre has been afforded every chance and yet Upshaw has not? Andrew Bynum was also pretty damn raw but the Lakers put in the time to develop him. I think Upshaw has a lot to learn, and with the way this team play defense, I don’t believe Byron Scott and Mark Madsen have the required defensive tools to teach him. That’s why they let him go.

  • “despite getting every opportunity to do so”. Let’s look at Robert Upshaw’s massive 54 minutes of “opportunity” over a four game span and do some actual journalism.

    Robert Upshaw got 25 minutes in his first game against the Raptors(Did not play at all in the first two games) – the only time he played more than a quarter in any game, he played in a unit featuring no point guard and played alongside rookies, Holmes and Nance Jr, he recorded 3-4 shooting and two blocks with 8 points, this was the game where Lou Williams’ allowed Cory Joseph to just run into the paint uncontested all game, despite this. Upshaw blocked his shot twice. (For the record this was actually Upshaw’s most impressive game)

    In his second game, against the lowly Maccabi, Upshaw only played the final 7 minutes of beyond garbage time with a unit consisting of Frazier, J Brown, MWP and Nance Jr, once again no point guard.

    Upshaw did not play the following loss to the Kings.

    Upshaw played next against the Warriors for 10 minutes in the third(final quarter), in a unit consisting of Frazier, Nance Jr, MWP and Clarkson – again no point guard, Clarkson was playing hero ball this game and did not record a single assist. All the while playing the majority of his minutes against a Warriors semi first unit as they were trying to get back in the game, with Curry Ezeli and Iquodala. This same game Robert Sacre also gets a quarter but with Huertas.

    In Upshaw’s final game, he again got one quarter of action in a unit consisting of Clarkson, Frazier, Young, Nance Jr against the Trailblazers first unit. Once again, no real point guard, and Upshaw gets 4 fouls because Lillard is blowing by Clarkson with ease. In the same game Sacre also gets twelve minutes, but is afforded both Huertas and DLo in his time on the court, all the while dealing with the penetration of Phil Pressey. He proceeds to lose the Lakers a six point lead.

    I dispute the notion that Upshaw has been afforded every opportunity. To me it seems like he has been marginalized from the get go, likely from Byron Scott and his policy towards his ‘favorites’, he did not see a single minute of action with either of the Lakers’ two actual passing point guards, played the majority of his minutes sometimes against the opposing teams’ first unit point guards, while Sacre has been afforded the opportunity of Huertas and DLo making him look “special”.

    For the record, in the 4 games Upshaw played the Lakers won 3, I’m not saying he contributed meaningfully or anything, but surely his presence means more than what basically is the highest paid mascot in the NBA (Sacre)

    In Summary Robert Sacre HAS BEEN AFFORDED EVERY OPPORTUNITY and then some and then some and then some.

    1. Really?
      The team gave him an opportunity, and more minutes than the guys who were his competition. When things settled he wasn’t good enough. He had a poor work ethic and the guys getting paid to make the decision unanimously agreed.

      And to boot, and validate the team’s decision, he is STILL unsigned — so 29 other GM’s don’t think he’s worth a spot on the or roster.

      Maybe you need to look at what paid guys see, know, and think more than your own brick wall rant. You saw him for 54 minutes, while the lakers have nearly 6 months.

      1. You obviously didn’t even read what I typed, so please don’t respond to me. Don’t bring up the no one has picked up Upshaw yet, Oct 26th is the final roster cut for teams Only then can teams generally begin picking up guys who have been cut from other teams.

        1. Who reads a wall of useless text when someone is ranting as an armchair GM?

          If he isn’t signed by today, he won’t be signed. Teams don’t wait until the day before roster cuts to add a guy to their final roster. If Upshaw were a commodity he wouldn’t have cleared waivers on a non-guaranteed, veteran minimum contract ( or be a free agent today). — It seems you are a bit misinformed about contracts, roster dates, and free agency.

          Somehow you also missed that the team was disappointed that Upshaw left practice most days without staying after to work on things.

          1. Utter crap, example: Clippers cut Joe Ingles last season, he was picked up by the Jazz two days after the final roster cut.
            You will unlikely respond to this, as when you make one of your ridiculous fantasy statements and get proven wrong(very often), you turn into a “brick wall” (of silence).

          2. You are the same one that wanted Okafor over Towns..You don’t have any credibility.

          3. If that were true, which I doubt, regarding Upshaw’s practice regimen, don’t you think BS would have talked to him before the end of preseason, no one knows what happened, you just base your fact on rumors that are not fact, Byron did not mention anything about cutting Upshaw because he skipped out on his training and even so didn’t Byron state that he wanted the best 15 on the roster, well Upshaws performance compared to Sacre’s dictates that Upshaw is the better athlete of the two, so is Byron lying or is Byron a poor judge on talent, along with his poor coaching !!!!!

          4. “armchair GM”, how exactly can you call me an armchair GM, when all I did was point out what happened on the court, meanwhile you are pointing out a bunch of incorrect nonsense about contracts and what occurred after practices. So who is the real armchair General Manager here? You should seriously have actually read it, it may change your opinion, unlikely though, as you still think Tarik Black will get cut. Hilarious.

    2. Excellent read. I agree, he was clearly set up to fail in his last game. Sacre had to deal with pressey. Yet Upshaw grabbed more rebounds.

      Sacre in fact was afforded opportunities to redeem himself after games in which he by himself gave the other team an opportunity to win.

      Clearly an example of favoritism.

    3. Did you bother to think the BS and the FO saw no extra work before the practice and no extra work after practice, and they just might have lost interest its not their job to tell the players to do what they all do extra work, that’s what they want and what they look for.

      1. That is pure speculation about the whole practice thing. The guy lost 23 pounds, he was clearly doing the work. Isn’t it the coach’s job to tell the players what to do, and what he expects them to do when he isn’t there? Isn’t that the definition of their job? If after being told to work harder after practice and THEN he didn’t, that’s another story. But again Byron never said it was a practice issue, he said it was because “he had too much to learn”, as in ‘I’m too lazy to bother teaching him’. What has all the extra work Robert Sacre supposedly put in every training accomplished? He can spin the towel faster? It reeks of pure favoritism.

    4. I can see that your “momma liked you best” skills were honed against older brothers while you were still in your bed-wetting years. I am not saying you haven’t contributed meaningfully to this conversation, but the folks who had to make this decision got to observe Upshaw 24/7 during Summer League and all of preseason everyday during practice, not just the 54 minutes you claimed you zeroed in on him.

      What could they have noticed that you didn’t? Did Upshaw set the screens and picks this offense requires firmly and on time? Did he do his job in the PnR? Did he box out on defense and grab his share of rebounds? Did he rotate properly and in a timely manner for “help” defense? Did he recover quickly? Do I have to tell you the answers?

      I like Upshaw a lot, but he plays “hero ball.” His comprehension of TEAM basketball is non-existent. He needs time watching film with someone who does know. He needs time to learn the fundamentals he missed in high school and college.

      I want the Lakers to invest in Upshaw. I might not have cut the guy, but I understand why he was.

      1. You also likely failed to read what I typed. You go on to mention Upshaw playing Hero ball and not team ball, yet look at the units he played in, were there ANY team players there? This is after all a rookie. You ask a lot of questions of a rookie but you could also ask those questions of 4th Year Robert Sacre, what exactly does the FO and coaching staff notice that I didn’t about him? Can he set screens? Does he box out? Grab Rebounds? Can he even catch the ball? In fact you could ask a lot of these questions about the entire Lakers squad, because they have all looked rather lost on both ends wouldn’t you say? I don’t know why he was cut, and Robert Sacre is still a Laker. The whole point of it was how come Robert Sacre has been afforded every chance and yet Upshaw has not? Andrew Bynum was also pretty damn raw but the Lakers put in the time to develop him. I think Upshaw has a lot to learn, and with the way this team play defense, I don’t believe Byron Scott and Mark Madsen have the required defensive tools to teach him. That’s why they let him go.

  • I think they should have kept Upshaw, moved on from Sacre and sent Upshaw down to the Defenders and told him he had to earn his way back up by play and by showing true professional behavior… The kid is talented and seems very intelligent so this might become a move the Lakers regret.

    1. If they follow your plan, Upshaw takes up one of the 15 roster spaces and the team only has Hibbert and Black as players for BOTH games and practice.
      – What happens if either get hurt?

      1. How much Playing time is Robert Sacre projected to play?

        If its minimal, then we can assume Upshaws time would be minimal in Sacres place and therefor Upshaw would not significantly impact the team.

        1. Probably the full 18 minutes Hibbert doesn’t.

          It’s very obvious Scott doesn’t believe Black is ready. And at 6’9″ and an out of control foul machine Black is still a liability.

          1. I have seen Black tightening up his defensive fouling in the limited time he has played in preseason.

            Black is a Byron favorite. Theres no way Sacre gets time over Black.

          2. if Sacre backs up Hibbert, then we lose anyways and piss away development minutes for those who will make an impact later on. It’s a lose-lose scenario.

          3. If randle and black are wreaking havoc down low with all that muscle it cud be a win scenario

  • I think they should have kept Upshaw, moved on from Sacre and sent Upshaw down to the Defenders and told him he had to earn his way back up by play and by showing true professional behavior… The kid is talented and seems very intelligent so this might become a move the Lakers regret.

    1. If they follow your plan, Upshaw takes up one of the 15 roster spaces and the team only has Hibbert and Black as players for BOTH games and practice.
      – What happens if either get hurt?

      1. How much Playing time is Robert Sacre projected to play?

        If its minimal, then we can assume Upshaws time would be minimal in Sacres place and therefor Upshaw would not significantly impact the team.

        1. Probably the full 18 minutes Hibbert doesn’t.

          It’s very obvious Scott doesn’t believe Black is ready. And at 6’9″ and an out of control foul machine Black is still a liability.

          It’s says a lot that upshaw couldn’t exceed the bar set by Sacre.

          1. I have seen Black tightening up his defensive turnovers/fouls in the limited time he has played in preseason.

            Black is a Byron favorite. Theres no way Sacre gets time over Black.

          2. if Sacre backs up Hibbert, then we lose anyways and piss away development minutes for those who will make an impact later on. It’s a lose-lose scenario.

          3. If randle and black are wreaking havoc down low with all that muscle it cud be a win scenario

  • He was definitely worth taking a chance on. Neither him or Sacre are going to see much pt but battling Hibbert day in day out in practice is an invaluable experience. The question is, which center is going to grow more from that? Sacre played behind Howard and showed no growth defensively, played behind Gasol and showed no growth on offense, played extended minutes last season due to injuries and once again showed very little growth. Imo the guaranteed vs. non guaranteed status should have made little difference in the decision. It’s not like Sacre was a lottery pick with a high ceiling. He was the last pick in the draft and hasn’t shown much growth since. The million dollars (approx.) salary isn’t going to make much of a difference either. Sacre has little to no trade value, and he’s not hurting the cap either way. The Lakers aren’t in a position to make a big midseason splash anyways in the trade market either. They should have kept Upshaw around. Hopefully he sticks around and kills it in the D Leaugue and gets called up.

  • He was definitely worth taking a chance on. Neither him or Sacre are going to see much pt but battling Hibbert day in day out in practice is an invaluable experience. The question is, which center is going to grow more from that? Sacre played behind Howard and showed no growth defensively, played behind Gasol and showed no growth on offense, played extended minutes last season due to injuries and once again showed very little growth. Imo the guaranteed vs. non guaranteed status should have made little difference in the decision. It’s not like Sacre was a lottery pick with a high ceiling. He was the last pick in the draft and hasn’t shown much growth since. The million dollars (approx.) salary isn’t going to make much of a difference either. Sacre has little to no trade value, and he’s not hurting the cap either way. The Lakers aren’t in a position to make a big midseason splash anyways in the trade market either. They should have kept Upshaw around. Hopefully he sticks around and kills it in the D Leaugue and gets called up.

  • Releasing of Upshaw does not make sense to me. Who is making all these stupid decisions? Letting a potential future all star go. Robert Scars has not contributed since joining the Lakers. Either the decision makers are blind, or playing favoritism

    1. The only thing I can think of as a reason is that there is something that the FO is not telling us about Upshaws character or dislike of him.
      Otherwise, the move makes no sense.

    2. I don’t no about all star but he coulda been great.. His rebounding and scoring wasn’t elite enough but I figure he just needed one more offseason too gain back muscle while keeping body fat down

      1. He’s just like Andrew Bynum was before Kareem got a hold of him. Three weeks of preseason is not enough time for him to develop into what he can be.

  • Releasing of Upshaw does not make sense to me. Who is making all these stupid decisions? Letting a potential future all star go. Robert Scars has not contributed since joining the Lakers. Either the decision makers are blind, or playing favoritism

    1. The only thing I can think of as a reason is that there is something that the FO is not telling us about Upshaws character or dislike of him.
      Otherwise, the move makes no sense.

    2. I don’t no about all star but he coulda been great.. His rebounding and scoring wasn’t elite enough but I figure he just needed one more offseason too gain back muscle while keeping body fat down

      1. He’s just like Andrew Bynum was before Kareem got a hold of him. Three weeks of preseason is not enough time for him to develop into what he can be.

    1. aww poor upshaw….
      man im more heart broken than he is….
      this sucks dude!
      i was really rooting for the guy to make it.

    1. aww poor upshaw….
      man im more heart broken than he is….
      this sucks dude!
      i was really rooting for the guy to make it.

  • Trevor Lane has it exactly right.

    “Isn’t that exactly the kind of player a rebuilding team should be taking
    a chance on, regardless of how raw he is presently? Rebuilding teams
    have the luxury of swinging for the fences on players with upside, yet
    here the Lakers opted to act as a contending team would be keeping the
    known commodity.”

    The reality of our position in the Western Landscape should dictate our direction. Mitch says every year it’s their goal to win it all every year. Evidently BS believes in the marketing rhetoric then ends up winning a few games a month anyways. And the irony is, Sacre wouldn’t help you win a game, let alone a championship,

  • Trevor Lane has it exactly right.

    “Isn’t that exactly the kind of player a rebuilding team should be taking
    a chance on, regardless of how raw he is presently? Rebuilding teams
    have the luxury of swinging for the fences on players with upside, yet
    here the Lakers opted to act as a contending team would be keeping the
    known commodity.”

    The reality of our position in the Western Landscape should dictate our direction. Mitch says every year it’s their goal to win it all every year. Evidently BS believes in the marketing rhetoric then ends up winning a few games a month anyways. And the irony is, Sacre wouldn’t help you win a game, let alone a championship,

  • Upshaw was not ready right now and it may be risky but I think Lakers will keep track of him. Look at all the teams that gave up on Whiteside before he finally matured. Lakers dont have time for that this year.

    1. not trying to be confrontational, but what are the lakers doing this year. I would hope the Lakers are setting up a core for life after Kobe. And if Sacre is in that core, then we don’t have hope. If Hibbert gets an offer to go elsewhere … that defense is in trouble…. unless Thibs comes in and we sign Noah.

    2. I don’t see any risk whatsoever with Upshaw. He hasn’t done anything wrong since the Lakers brought him in for Summer League. The past is the past. There’s no risk in developing a 7 footer with potential while paying him the minimum. People need to stop already with this “risk” nonsense. Lakers knew from the start he’s a developmental project. Nobody was expecting him to play great this soon. They didn’t give him the same opportunity Sacre was given with a lot less potential than Upshaw.

  • Upshaw was not ready right now and it may be risky but I think Lakers will keep track of him. Look at all the teams that gave up on Whiteside before he finally matured. Lakers dont have time for that this year.

    1. not trying to be confrontational, but what are the lakers doing this year. I would hope the Lakers are setting up a core for life after Kobe. And if Sacre is in that core, then we don’t have hope. If Hibbert gets an offer to go elsewhere … that defense is in trouble…. unless Thibs comes in and we sign Noah.

    2. I don’t see any risk whatsoever with Upshaw. He hasn’t done anything wrong since the Lakers brought him in for Summer League. The past is the past. He’s done nothing bad on the Lakers’ watch. There’s no risk in developing a 7 footer with potential while paying him the minimum. People need to stop already with this “risk” nonsense. Lakers knew from the start he’s a developmental project just like Andrew Bynum was when we drafted him. Nobody was expecting him to play great this soon. They didn’t give him the same opportunity that stiff Sacre’s been given with a lot less potential than Upshaw.

  • I wish more sports’ organization would take the position that your “talent” does not supersede the organization and/or it’s fellow players. These “talented” guys must learn and/or adopt the philosophy that teams or organizations are not going to put up with negative antics thus keeping you negatively in the news, social media, media, or by police departments/law enforcement. I am not, however, implying that is the case with Upshaw, but com’on man, too many schools and/or others have passed on this “talented’ dude

    1. None of that matters. He did nothing wrong since the Lakers acquired him. It’s a bad decision.

      1. It is possible his past demons reared their ugly head again. Maybe the Lakers know something we don’t. Was there talk about “lockeroom presence?” We do know that Sacre has no such problems. Or is Mitch(A 6’11” guy himself)a bad judge of centers? As Air Jordan is a bad exec/judge of guards(He recently heaped mad praise on his newest acquisition one J. Lin).

  • In spite of the naysayers SACRE does tend to clog the middle and lest anyone forget the MAN is HIBBERT. He can potentially fill the middle and will score more than either BLACK or SACRE. The main reason the Lakers had retained Sacre is to have him BANG against the better bigs in the league wearing them down so that their other subpar bigs could get more scoring done. I agree though that taking a FLYER on UPSHAW wouldn’t have been bad. PEACE!

    1. Sacre is worthless. He does nothing well and has shown zero potential in 3 years of getting better.

      1. I agree. Upshaw showed more potential in one preseason game than sacre has shown his whole career

    2. ….. have you seen him play? he gets banged against he doesnt do any banging literally he gets backed down like he doesnt weigh over 200lbs

  • I wish more sports’ organization would take the position that your “talent” does not supersede the organization and/or it’s fellow players. These “talented” guys must learn and/or adopt the philosophy that teams or organizations are not going to put up with negative antics thus keeping you negatively in the news, social media, media, or by police departments/law enforcement. I am not, however, implying that is the case with Upshaw, but com’on man, too many schools and/or others have passed on this “talented’ dude

    1. None of that matters. He did nothing wrong since the Lakers acquired him. It’s a bad decision.

      1. It is possible his past demons reared their ugly head again. Maybe the Lakers know something we don’t. Was there talk about “lockeroom presence?” We do know that Sacre has no such problems. Or is Mitch(A 6’11” guy himself)a bad judge of centers? As Air Jordan is a bad exec/judge of guards(He recently heaped mad praise on his newest acquisition one J. Lin).

  • In spite of the naysayers SACRE does tend to clog the middle and lest anyone forget the MAN is HIBBERT. He can potentially fill the middle and will score more than either BLACK or SACRE. The main reason the Lakers had retained Sacre is to have him BANG against the better bigs in the league wearing them down so that their other subpar bigs could get more scoring done. I agree though that taking a FLYER on UPSHAW wouldn’t have been bad. PEACE!

    1. Sacre is worthless. He does nothing well and has shown zero potential of getting better in 3 years.

      1. I agree. Upshaw showed more potential in one preseason game than sacre has shown his whole career

    2. ….. have you seen him play? he gets banged against he doesnt do any banging literally he gets backed down like he doesnt weigh over 200lbs

  • They didn’t keep Upshaw, they picked D’Angelo as opposed to Jahill Okafor. That’s 2 potentially quality big men that could’ve wore purple & gold! Fire Mitch/Bring Logo back!

    1. Jeanie needs to clean house. Mitch might make the occasional solid move but for every good move he does, he makes 5 DUMB moves.

      1. I hear ya! And who’s in the front office to fire Mitch! No body! As the front office exists of Jim the Disc Jockey Buss, a woman and Mitch himself! AAAAAAAAAgh!

        1. Didja hear? Playboy Magazine is going to a new format. They will no longer feature nudity! Ol’ Bob Dylan said it: The times they are a’changin’!

  • They didn’t keep Upshaw, they picked D’Angelo as opposed to Jahill Okafor. That’s 2 potentially quality big men that could’ve wore purple & gold! Fire Mitch/Bring Logo back!

    1. Jeanie needs to clean house. Mitch might make the occasional solid move but for every good move he does, he makes 5 DUMB moves.

      1. I hear ya! And who’s in the front office to fire Mitch! No body! As the front office exists of Jim the Disc Jockey Buss, a woman and Mitch himself! AAAAAAAAAgh!

        1. Didja hear? Playboy Magazine is going to a new format. They will no longer feature nudity! Ol’ Bob Dylan said it: The times they are a’changin’!

  • furthermore upshaw is a better player then sacres and has a much greater upside then him as well….

          1. MAYBE WITH HIMSELF…but thats all he could maybe do hard…..but i doubt he can get hard period let alone play any way hard…lol…maybe thats why little jimmy buss likes him so much….

  • furthermore upshaw is a better player then sacres and has a much greater upside then him as well….

          1. MAYBE WITH HIMSELF…but thats all he could maybe do hard…..but i doubt he can get hard period let alone play any way hard…lol…maybe thats why little jimmy buss likes him so much….

  • This is why JIm Buss is a moron keeping Sacre with no up side compared to Upshaw who could be playing D-league and working with kareem like Bynum did.
    As a Laker fan I see the team maybe winning 25 games this season with Kobe getting hurt being so brittle and why on earth waste time having Metta on the team like this.

    1. I hope the Lakers can make a trade after the all-star break at the trade deadline and get a late first round pick pick from a team in the East who wants to make a run.

  • This is why JIm Buss is a moron keeping Sacre with no up side compared to Upshaw who could be playing D-league and working with kareem like Bynum did.
    As a Laker fan I see the team maybe winning 25 games this season with Kobe getting hurt being so brittle and why on earth waste time having Metta on the team like this.

    1. I hope the Lakers can make a trade after the all-star break at the trade deadline and get a late first round pick pick from a team in the East who wants to make a run.

  • Upon reading this article, it is clear most people are against this move. Rightfully so, the Lakers have nothing to lose, and we all know sacre is far from NBA material

  • Upon reading this article, it is clear most people are against this move. Rightfully so, the Lakers have nothing to lose, and we all know sacre is far from NBA material

  • I believe that the coaching staff just wanted to play it safe. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t know, as the saying goes. We all know that Sacre doesn’t help much on either end of the floor but we do at least know that. Upshaw is really an unknown and, at this point in time, the Lakers are not in a position to be taking risks. Just my opinion.

    1. For me, it’s about wasting a roster spot for a 4th season on Sacre. We all know Upshaw is a project but Sacre has 3 seasons under his belt and is STILL just that, A project. One that hasn’t gotten any better. Oh well, maybe he can come in and give intentional fouls to guys like DeAndre Jordan or Dwight Howard lol. Fouling is the ONE thing he’s good at.

      1. Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, & Kobe were supposed to be the cornerstone of the next great Lakers Dynasty. It didn’t quite work out that way. Instead, CP3 is in the OTHER Staples Center locker room and Kobe’s mouthing at Howard that he’s “soft.”

  • I believe that the coaching staff just wanted to play it safe. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t know, as the saying goes. We all know that Sacre doesn’t help much on either end of the floor but we do at least know that. Upshaw is really an unknown and, at this point in time, the Lakers are not in a position to be taking risks. Just my opinion.

    1. For me, it’s about wasting a roster spot for a 4th season on Sacre. We all know Upshaw is a project but Sacre has 3 seasons under his belt and is STILL just that, A project. One that hasn’t gotten any better. Oh well, maybe he can come in and give intentional fouls to guys like DeAndre Jordan or Dwight Howard lol. Fouling is the ONE thing he’s good at.

      1. Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, & Kobe were supposed to be the cornerstone of the next great Lakers Dynasty. It didn’t quite work out that way. Instead, CP3 is in the OTHER Staples Center locker room and Kobe’s mouthing at Howard that he’s “soft.”

  • No. Everyone is saying we don’t have enough time to develop Upshaw…like we have any chance of winning a championship. It’s not like we didn’t waste 3yrs on Sacre. It doesn’t matter now, Upshaw will sign w/ the Defenders…which is great news.

  • No. Everyone is saying we don’t have enough time to develop Upshaw…like we have any chance of winning a championship. It’s not like we didn’t waste 3yrs on Sacre. It doesn’t matter now, Upshaw will sign w/ the Defenders…which is great news.

  • Upshaw didn’t prove himself?
    And what exactly has Sacre proven on the court besides being below average?

  • Upshaw didn’t prove himself?
    And what exactly has Sacre proven on the court besides being below average?

  • In My Opinion – – KEEP “BIG” UPshaw. Take time to Groom the Raw Talented 21 Y.O. Rookie – Kareem G.O.A.T. would be the perfect mentor. In My Opinion, Upshaw has that God given special set of Abilities. I know this, Laker Nation, has their pick. I see Robert Upshaw as an Anchor on Defense, the guy can “sell Tickets”. Till Kobe says Upshaw is ready, I will have to wait with rest of Laker Nation and watch (again, another season of) Sacre / Kelly / Black

  • In My Opinion – – KEEP “BIG” UPshaw. Take time to Groom the Raw Talented 21 Y.O. Rookie – Kareem G.O.A.T. would be the perfect mentor. In My Opinion, Upshaw has that God given special set of Abilities. I know this, Laker Nation, has their pick. I see Robert Upshaw as an Anchor on Defense, the guy can “sell Tickets”. Till Kobe says Upshaw is ready, I will have to wait with rest of Laker Nation and watch (again, another season of) Sacre / Kelly / Black

  • i hear comments that Upshaw’s attitude wasn’t right. That he arrived late for practice. Let me cite one example from the past. Larry Bird said that MWP lacked the right work ethic during his early years with Indiana. MWP used to annoy the coaching staff every night. And yet, today we know MWP as a future hall-of-famer and 2x NBA champion. Sometimes, you need to pull the trigger with a special talent. And Upshaw definitely a special talent. All they had to do was give him the 15th spot and take 14 to the season. There was no risk in keeping Upshaw. By 2016, he would have played enough d-league to get the call-up.

  • i hear comments that Upshaw’s attitude wasn’t right. That he arrived late for practice. Let me cite one example from the past. Larry Bird said that MWP lacked the right work ethic during his early years with Indiana. MWP used to annoy the coaching staff every night. And yet, today we know MWP as a future hall-of-famer and 2x NBA champion. Sometimes, you need to pull the trigger with a special talent. And Upshaw definitely a special talent. All they had to do was give him the 15th spot and take 14 to the season. There was no risk in keeping Upshaw. By 2016, he would have played enough d-league to get the call-up.

  • Upshaw in a span of few months have shown us his big upside. Sacre in three years had shown us his downside.

  • Upshaw in a span of few months have shown us his big upside. Sacre in three years had shown us his downside.

  • There’s nothing anyone can tell me, short of Upshaw peeing on Jim Buss’ desk, that would convince me that the right move for a team that has a 0.0% chance of winning a championship in 2016 was cutting a guy on a minimum contract that oozes with potential in favor of keeping another who is a good guy but a below average (at best) basketball player you’ve had 3 years to evaluate.

  • There’s nothing anyone can tell me, short of Upshaw peeing on Jim Buss’ desk, that would convince me that the right move for a team that has a 0.0% chance of winning a championship in 2016 was cutting a guy on a minimum contract that oozes with potential in favor of keeping another who is a good guy but a below average (at best) basketball player you’ve had 3 years to evaluate.

  • Watching him was frustrating, because you can see the potential. This kid is just raw. Hope he puts it all together soon.

    1. dude the Lakers pass on something amazing……
      wtf do they see in BOB SACRE?????????????
      please anyone do enlighten me on this guy bc i see NOTHING!
      and you lost it all with upshaw whoever made this decision screwed us…

      1. He’s a great Hot Dog man. “Hot Dogs, get your hot dogs.” He even switches it up and calls for peanuts.

  • Watching him was frustrating, because you can see the potential. This kid is just raw. Hope he puts it all together soon.

    1. dude the Lakers pass on something amazing……
      wtf do they see in BOB SACRE?????????????
      please anyone do enlighten me on this guy bc i see NOTHING!
      and you lost it all with upshaw whoever made this decision screwed us…

      1. He’s a great Hot Dog man. “Hot Dogs, get your hot dogs.” He even switches it up and calls for peanuts.

    1. right bro? why keep sacre and cut upshaw?
      it just aint right……
      i dont care how we roll the dice…..
      or how many times…….

    1. right bro? why keep sacre and cut upshaw?
      it just aint right……
      i dont care how we roll the dice…..
      or how many times…….

  • lets be real IT MADE NO SENSE to waive Upshaw over Sacre other than they knew in that role neither player wouldn’t be making a contribution right now so why Loose what ever little money by waiving a guaranteed contract SMH!
    but now that is done with they should sign former lottery talent Perry Jones III since he couldn’t get minutes over Durant soaking up all the SF minutes and never had a chance to make Boston roster his position being the deepest with guaranteed contracts, and NBA teams do not like to waive guaranteed contracts and try to avoid that at all cost!

  • lets be real IT MADE NO SENSE to waive Upshaw over Sacre other than they knew in that role neither player wouldn’t be making a contribution right now so why Loose what ever little money by waiving a guaranteed contract SMH!
    but now that is done with they should sign former lottery talent Perry Jones III since he couldn’t get minutes over Durant soaking up all the SF minutes and never had a chance to make Boston roster his position being the deepest with guaranteed contracts, and NBA teams do not like to waive guaranteed contracts and try to avoid that at all cost!

  • Lakers fans have seen 3yrs of Sacre and got a pretty good picture ….Not so with Upshaw…..Upshaw can be woven in with this young core of players….

    1. i saw in another post he may go to the dfenders.
      what happens if another team grabs him.
      honestly i would reserve him and frazier and holmes for next year.
      we may want to keep ryan kelly but sacre i dont wanna keep.
      we dont need a bench cheerleader and his defense sucks he cant block shots or rebound.
      all he has is a little jump hook shot. if the Lakers want to keep sacre and cut mwp or jabari thats them not my choice.
      id rather keep both MWP and J brown and cut robert sacre.
      seriously how many thousands of people have said lose sacre?
      maybe millions by now……

  • Lakers fans have seen 3yrs of Sacre and got a pretty good picture ….Not so with Upshaw…..Upshaw can be woven in with this young core of players….

    1. i saw in another post he may go to the dfenders.
      what happens if another team grabs him.
      honestly i would reserve him and frazier and holmes for next year.
      we may want to keep ryan kelly but sacre i dont wanna keep.
      we dont need a bench cheerleader and his defense sucks he cant block shots or rebound.
      all he has is a little jump hook shot. if the Lakers want to keep sacre and cut mwp or jabari thats them not my choice.
      id rather keep both MWP and J brown and cut robert sacre.
      seriously how many thousands of people have said lose sacre?
      maybe millions by now……

  • Why are none of you experts running the Lakers, you all sound like you know what is going on and could do a better job than Mitch. But instead you complain and comment about how wrong the Lakers are for letting him go, because you know more about what is going on with Upshaw than the Lakers.

  • Why are none of you experts running the Lakers, you all sound like you know what is going on and could do a better job than Mitch. But instead you complain and comment about how wrong the Lakers are for letting him go, because you know more about what is going on with Upshaw than the Lakers.

  • I’ve always defended Swaggy through the hate storm of last season but gawd daym that is one un-cool reference to throw out there. N’Sync??? The day the Lakers become anything resembling a boyband I will bury myself in Red Auerbach’s grave.

    Speaking of music, how cool wasn’t organist Dieter Ruehle for playing “Sunday Bloody Sunday” during the blood wiping in the 4th qt? Cute! 🙂

    1. But N’Sync were actually successful while the Lakers are currently a circus act. It’s more like an insult to them than to us.

  • First off this doesn’t belong in the news section. Second young is shooting 46% from 3, he should be the starting 3.

          1. swagP shooting(might miss but mates can rebound) willl do more good than his passing(might be anticipated since he’s not a good passer like Kobe and Lou who can play point guard)

          2. Why do we now expect players to do everything on the court? It’s okay for a guy to just be a rebounder, if he is a really good one. Or just a shooter if he is a really good one. or just a passer if he is really good at it.

            We now have this thought that everybody has to be great at everything just to be a great player.

          1. Since when? Was Reggie Miller making plays for the other players? Who did Ray Allen make plays for?

          2. Nope. Never wanted him as a Laker. Just see that the best teams have guys that have specific roles not everyone doing everything.

          3. When has Young ben considered a starter?

            He’s capable, yes. But he’s really just a highly talented bench guy

      1. He plays 2-3, assisting is not their primary function and when he does pass, it’s up to that person to take the shot, it’s not Swaggy’s fault if the guy doesn’t !!!!!

    1. If he keeps showing a little effort on defense, they won’t need to trade him. Doesn’t have to lock fools down, just needs to not get beaten off the ball.

  • Now is the best chance to get Joel Embiid because the Sixers already have Okafor and Noel and Embiid is going through his second straight season injured.
    So LA gets: Embiid Sixers get: Kelly, Black, Sacre

    Center rotation this season:
    Hibbert/ Bass/ Embiid (upgraded Sacre(this season) and potential beast or at least a decent backup center for years to come).

    1. Damn, after this year he has made 9 million dollars doing nothing. NOTHING! Where do I get that job.

    2. dude i wouldnt trade tariq black.
      i would maybe trade kelly sacre and 1 other for joel embiid maybe a SF or SG.

  • Hoping Anthony Brown can get some PT tonight. I really liked what he showed during the preseason, and want to see more. If not, hopefully they send him down to the D-League to work on his game.

  • The Lakers NEED a true YOUNG small forward as well as a future center & shooting guard.. Is it possible to package Sacre, Kelley, Young & Russell for a future super star in any of the positioned needed, thats the question. Not a power forward like Randolf but a young future stud small forward or Center or POINT. Russell is just like Marshall, he makes a few good passes once in a while, shoots a few shots once and a while & the commentors act like he is the 2nd coming of Nash. Russell needs to go before the rest of the league finds out he is third off the bench as a point.

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