Lakers News: L.A. Was ‘Determined Trade Bidder’ For Ty Lawson
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Chris Humphreys-USA TODAY Sports

The Los Angeles Lakers were among the teams interested in trading for veteran point guard Ty Lawson. The Houston Rockets ultimately were able to acquire Lawson on Sunday, but the Lakers definitely made a hard push to get a deal done.

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According to ESPN’s Marc Stein, the Lakers simply didn’t provide a better trade package then the Rockets were offering:

The Denver Nuggets had been looking to part ways with Lawson for quite some time. Many believed Lawson would ultimately land with the Sacramento Kings, but then the team signed free agent Rajon Rondo.

As for the Lakers, the team has been exploring trade options including Nick Young, Robert Sacre and Ryan Kelly. Despite gauging trade interest, no deals came to fruition, but it would be safe to assume those three names came up in trade talks with the Nuggets.

The Lakers may have also been reluctant to give up Jordan Clarkson in a proposed trade for Lawson. Although Lawson would’ve been a considerable backcourt upgrade, the Lakers brass not wanting to sacrifice the future to bring in a troubled veteran is a good sign moving forward.


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hmmm.. i wonder who the lakers offered. i’m guessing that they put anyone other than russell, randle and clarkson on the table… and DEN wanted one of the three. in that case, this is definitely for the better.

  • They offered Papanikolaou, Prigioni, Dorsey, Nick Johnson and the future first-round pick. Not sure if we really made a run at him. We could have offered a better package of Young, Kelly, Sacre, Jabari Brown and future 2nd rounder

  • it could also be a case of DEN thinking LAL was low-balling them since lawson is currently in rehab. i doubt we included russell, randle, clarkson or a first round pick in the offer.

  • true.,… but its sad that we lost out to that ridiculous package from houston.. seriously. prigoni is like a grandpa.

  • Yea the first round pick will be a late first rounder too.
    On paper lakers offer seems better. We may of had exploratory conversations and once nuggets asked for Russel, clarkson or randle lakers said nah we are out.
    Teams and agents may continue to drag lakers into every trade to continue to make us look bad I think that’s what it is.

  • in the long run, we’ll be better off. i can’t stand the rockets, but i hope that lawson works out his personal issues with alcohol.

  • Wheres david stern when you need him. Need him to nix this uneven deal or wheres dan gilbert bitchin ass to bitch about power teams forming. Thats right only the lakers get screwed over

  • First round pick plus Johnson and Dorsey is definitely not nothing. They got way more that I thought they could

  • Good. Just throw Russell right into the fire and hope he can adjust quickly.

  • The 1st rounder is what solidified it. Oh well… the guy is in rehab right now and also quit on a highly respected guy in Shaw. But I still would’ve wanted him… anybody but Houston though… I want Coward to never get to the big show.

  • FO is a fucking embarrassment. I bet Denver asked for a first rounder from the Lakers and they balked like always. I mean for fuck sakes with likely no first round pick for two of the next four years what could it have hurt to make it three of the next six.

  • Stated this a few days ago, Rockettes have better assets to wheel and deal. FO’s ineptness started when they decided to settle for minimum contracts and D-leaguers after DH’s departure aside of giving away draft picks.

    ‘Jerry West: Warriros FO “the most healthy environment I’ve been involved with”

    http://probasketballtalk. nbcsports .com/2015/07/18/jerry-west-says-warriors-front-office-the-most-healthy-environment-ive-been-involved-with/

    D’R1 putting in the work.

  • That whole Nuggets team quit on Shaw. Breaking the huddle with “six weeks” is about as low as it gets.

  • Lol. Love seeing irrational, emotional fans bitch and cry.. so fun. Your tears are delicious btw.

  • Not gonna lie, kinda of wanted him to start in front of dlo for a year…but Houston makes sense. Lawson will be a perfect fit, immature and selfish and not too smart….the rockets have a few of those guys now. He will fit right in.

  • We can’t trade a first rounder in the near future any way. League rules prohibit teams from trading first round picks in consecutive years. Next year’s pick is top 3 protected, but still is considered traded in the eyes of the league. I doubt the Nuggets wanted a 2019 first rounder.

  • I know they all did, and shame on them for doing so.. but still. As the team’s best player, you’d hope he’d be a leader and try and find a middle ground and control the locker room.

  • Seems like Mitch doesn’t have major confidence in Russell like he did before the SL

  • Honestly, Russell needs to sit and learn behind a veteran. But now he may be thrown to the wolves for better of for worse.

  • i respectfully disagree.. if he didn’t, he’d have offered a first round pick and sealed this deal. we could have easily got this deal done. damn houston didn’t even offer mcdaniels or dekker. just look at their package!

  • Guess we have to see how he plays behind all that pressure on him. His SL showing doesn’t help him.

  • Disagree. Kupchack just wants to play vets. Look at last season with Randle, we absolutely did not need to sign Boozer, but they did so he could play in front of a rookie.

  • Like what first rounder? We don’t have a first rounder for the next couple of years. Most likely Mitch was trying to ship Young, Kelly and Sacre over to Denver.

  • That 1st round pick was the deal breaker, Lakers don’t have any, all we got are 3 scrubs.

  • a package of Young, Kelly, Sacre, Jabari Brown and 2016 second rounder would have sealed the deal. still better than what houston offered.

  • Honestly believe this has nothing to do with Russell, but more to do with possibly acquiring an almost all-star talent for peanuts.

  • I like Clarkson a lot but I would have pulled the trigger with Clarkson Young Kelley Sacre.

  • Even if we got Lawson we would need a miracle to make the playoffs next year. So instead of mortgaging our entire future for a 2nd tier guard it’s best to let the young guys develop.

  • They were not going to include Brown, if we had a 1st rounder plus those 3, would’ve been done.

  • At least our future Core 3 is intact. Must have been tempting for the FO.

  • For fuck sakes people inform yourselves, stop making others do it for you. First off the pick would be 2020 or later depending on whether the 2018 Orlando pick is conveyed. Any pick the Lakers offered no matter how far off in the future would have been more appealing than a lottery protected first rounder that Houston gave up. As far as I am aware of nothing in the rules prevents this, Miami for example owes three first round picks 2016. 2018 and 2021.

  • Never said he was, I am just thinking he doesn’t trust Russell to man the point this early for the team and do it consistently night in and night out.

  • Not for Lawson. I would of pulled the trigger of Clarkson + randle for Boggie

  • Don’t just flag @ThePooper1998. Report him. A.K.A. “LakersSpartan117”

  • Honestly, who cares about if GSW is the healthiest FO position. At the end of the day, it depends on talent on the court. If OKC was healthy and the Spurs were still around, no way would GSW win the finals. Love Jerry since he found Kobe, but Lakers will always be the team he’s had the most success in a FO position

  • West left the Lakers of his own free will 15 years ago. Can we move on from worrying about West?

  • And th blocked CP3 trade. And letting gasol leave without getting any compensation. And hiring D’antoni over Phil etc etc etc

  • Golden State would’ve had a shot, it comes down to having the right formula in place on both ends (court and basketball operations). However, don’t think the Warriors care, they’re the champs and that’s all that matters. However, we’ll find out if the GSW are true contenders now (consistency) next season.

  • Disqus does you dumb sack of shit. Lakernation doesn’t have mods, but Discus does have moderators when it comes to impersonation and spam.

  • I admit that I was wrong, but saying a 2020 pick (or later) is better than a lottery protected pick is a little silly. For all we know, the Lakers could win the championship in 2020. So the choice was either a late round pick next year or an unknown pick 5 years later. Oh, and the prospects in that 2020 draft are currently underclassmen high school or still in middle school lol.

  • Russell is unknown in terms of years away and is clearly a project. So who else is left the 20 other combo guards the Lakers have?. Lawson is a pure PG and would have at the very least made the team competitive. With only two years left on his contract he would have provided a high risk high reward situation. Instead he goes to a team that was already a contender and makes that west that much tougher.

  • Blah, blah, blah,

    Told ya since 2013 this would happen DP, the buffoons at the FO have failed miserably to acquire depth at the starting positions the past few off seasons since DH’s departure.

    Laker fans will need to be patient given a better future lies ahead 4+ years from now. Reason I posted this is to show that it takes both ends being the court and basketball operations (vision) to have a better long-term future outcome.

    Best for Jim to step down after the 2016 season and make Mitch VP and acquire a more astute GM who can out-think these decent GM’s. No doubt the FO will be out given their 2 yrs remaining.

  • Karl Anthony-Towns has struggled and Mudiay has been streaky. SL can be a useful tool to measure players but you shouldn’t put too much stock into it. There’s still training camp and preseason which can help D’Angelo improve.

  • I’m glad they balked, trading away 1st round picks for a chance at a head case for two years is exactly what has got them in this mess to begin with ala Nash and Howard.

  • Clarkson



  • Blah, blah, blah is your tired constant. Russell and Clarkson are the movement. No different than Van Exel and Jones in the 90’s. Been told you this

  • I stopped at “or later pick is better than a protected pick”, you need look no further than the Nash trade. I bet a lot of people thought the same back then now the Sixers are sitting pretty on the Lakers top 3 pick for what will have been four years later. It’s the not the first time that happened in fact in most cases that type of pick has always panned out better than some lottery protected pick a year or two from being conveyed.

  • I actually think we’d have a slightly better offer than what Rockets gave
    Joey Dorsey, progioni? Idk…i guess it was just to clear up cap space seeing as they might be tanking

  • Let’s face it, they probably offered Robert Sacre in the trade and that is like saying a big fuck you to the Nuggets FO.

  • There goes Houston chances of getting past the Warriors. With Lawson defense, Curry will be cooking.

  • Clarkson??? Are you kidding me lmao thanks for the laugh

  • A really defensive backcourt. Memphis did it until Tony Allen went down with injury. The cavs did it for a few games before Dellavedova spent a night in the hospital needing iv infusion.

  • if curry is on. no one is stopping that guy in a 7 game series. he’s on that elite level now.

  • Most sober GM in the NBA wouldn’t trade Clarkson for Lawson straight up. The one in rehab might do this trade.

  • Lol, what happened to Randle? Aside of that the top teams in the West haven’t been doing nothing special being acquiring strong depth for their starting rotations which thus appeals more to top tier 1 talent.

    Lakers still have a shot given they have plenty of assets (correlating more to the Laker bigs) but don’t see much change happening with this dysfunctional FO anytime soon.

    It’s almost unfair that WC teams should have so many strong teams and the weak EC manages to send their EC rep to the Finals without being truly challenged. Thus why Mark-obtuse -Cuban would send the Texas teams to the EC. Best roll with NBA League pass now boy and cancel your TWC subscription for now. BOOM!

  • Which player will get to the Western Conference Final first, Ty Lawson or Chris Paul?

  • There’s an NBA player still floating around in his father’s sack who will make the Western Conference Finals before Chris Paul does.

  • I’m disappointed we didn’t do what it took to get Lawson because I think it would have made a huge difference in the development of Russell learning slowly behind him; now he is going to be thrown out there to the wolves and it’s going to be tougher.

    How I see it is simply put in this way: imagine Russell after battling his defender getting to half court, at this point he is mostly a one dimensional threat to pass to the open man and setting up the offense.

    Russell at the 2 coming off a screen and receiving a good pass from Lawson becomes a dual threat to catch and in position to shoot or even better with his court vision making another pass for an easy basket, in this second scenario Russell is a much bigger threat to the defense and put them off their balance than he would be at the 1.

    This is a big blow to the teams success next season.

  • Clarkson will be better than Lawson in a couple years. JC and DLO is the Lakers’ backcourt future… The trade would be good for now but not for the long haul..

  • The fact that they were going after Lawson means they don’t plan on starting russell at least for right now until the game slows down for him his turnovers were off the charts and this was only summer league look for him to come off the bench with Lou Williams at sg for a month or two then scott will ease him into the lineup

  • Which team in the Western Conference that had never gotten to the Western Conference Final?

  • Lawson means better trade asset next year. Too bad the lakers couldn’t get him for Sacre and Kelly.

  • Top 5 Clippers of all-time:
    1. Ralph Lawlyer
    2. Donald Sterling
    3. Danny Manning
    4. V. Stivano
    5. Michael Olwakandi

  • the rockets are serious championship contenders now. i called this move i remember a couple of months ago and now i was right all a long

  • Everyone knows that including Houston the team with one of the best analytics dept otherwise why would Lakers tried hard for him? They just didn’t try hard enough. He will get through rehab way before training camp begins.

  • Let’s also talk about Ty Lawson’s strengths: His speed and ability to play quickly and on the break. Now throw Ty Lawson into Byron Scott’s system and all you get is a frustrated midget who couldn’t stand Brian Shaw’s system he doesn’t thrive at all and when Kobe sucks the ball off him, he becomes irrelevant. He will also struggle in Houston and will likely not co-exist with Harden and will end up being replaced often by Beverley, unlike he who shall not be named Ty Lawson cannot really play off the ball. Ty Lawson didn’t fit the Lakers to begin with.

  • There will be drama in Houston. Harden wanted out of OKC so he didn’t have to share the ball with Westbrook and Durant. Now he has to share the ball with Lawson and Lawson is a much bigger ballhog than Westbrook and Durant.

  • This is a big move for the Rockets. They now have a legit playmaker at the point who can score and help Harden balance the floor and make the game easier for him. Harden really wanted help at that position and now he has it. At some point, I would expect Lawson to start alongside Harden. As for the Lakers, they’re probably better off not getting Lawson. They’re going to be one of the worst teams in the league to start the year and they’d be better off seeing if Russell and Clarkson can develop as legit NBA starters at the guard position.

  • People have such short selective memories? The west was deep all the same in the 90’s. Utah, Seattle, Houston, Phoenix, Portland and Golden St. 6 of the top 8 playoff teams in the league wère from the west. The Late Show was able to win 48 & 52 games in consecutive seasons with rookies and young players post Magic.

  • dude are u serious? haha!!! lawson is not durant and westbrook. all the rockets needed was that type of PG to be championship contenders and they just got it in lawson.

  • If the holdup was Clarkson in the deal smart move. Not trading 23 yr old Clarkson for Lawson. Outside of signing FA stand as is right now and let’s see what the records are of every team and try to make a trade at the deadline. If we see something then I’d pull it. Only PG I would consider moving Clarkson for right now that may be available From his team is Bledsoe.

  • WTH, strange you’ve even brought this up YOURSELF! Different times with the CBA RIGHT? This is about contending and not buying for a 7th-8th seed in the playoffs.

  • What HOU offered wasn’t that much better though. It was just that 1st round pick

  • ” ty lawson didn’t even fit the lakers to begin with” hahah!!! are you serious? literally i dont know who ur making these comments for anymore. u try so hard to troll its so sad. who do u think lawson is westbrook? hahah!!! if a guy whos a top passer in this league not a good fit with any team well than you have problems man. serious ones. at least lawson could get to the basket with ease unlike russel who cant blow by literally anyone let alone an actaul PG 😀

  • Not a scary move at all. Only good about it is they traded zero talent for him. But Harden is a ball holder so I don’t see how this works.

  • at some point? dude hes obviously an upgrade over beverly whho was ppretty much just a 3 and D pg. hes starting from the get go duhhh

  • There’s no FF button. Hopefully Jimmy and Mitch are learning that! It’s always a progression as I’ve said in the past.

  • I saw that, it seems the rest of the league prefers that we stay at the bottom. Props to Larry Bird for at least trading Hibbert to us hopefully he goes back to his all star self.

  • people who say harden and lawson will be a problems have serious problems no joke. like come on u that desperate? if thats the case mind as well say that for every team in the league :D.

  • If you think Ty Lawson is putting Houston over the hump you better look deeper than that. They’ll be a second rd knockout

  • Scott system does not discourage a transition out on the break offense and Lawson would have loved to play with all these young bucks who like to run (Randle,Clarkson,Russell) not to mention others on the team.

    “throw Ty Lawson into Byron Scott’s system and all you get is a frustrated midget who couldn’t stand Brian Shaw’s system he doesn’t thrive at all”

    Not true, he still averaged 15ppg and 10 assists, without looking up his career average I bet he is right up there pretty close. He hates Shaw personally as much as he hates Shaw’s triangle hybrid system.

  • please. HOU is desperate because they know that with dwight in a slight decline, their title window is slowly closing. and you don’t know that lawson will even come out of rehab clean and sober. the lakers are better off.

  • dude no one can predict the future. anyone can lose to anyone. all im saying is this is a championship contender thats all im saying im not saying its going to get them over the hump.

  • Hahahahaha. People acting like Lawson gonna put Houston over okc GS the Clips Spurs mem. Please Houston will be a 5-6 and get bounced early.

  • Jim and Mitch NOT pulling the trigger to send Clarkson for Ty is the best move they’ve made yet.

  • I’d argue with you, but you wouldn’t really understand anything. So it’s not really worth it. So anyway you didn’t answer my question, what is your next harebrained scheme for the replacement of DLo? I am seriously on the edge of my seat.

  • Rockets are going to need to upgrade their defense if they want to be a serious championship contender.

  • I feel you. I’m not knocking you just saying this move doesn’t put them over 5 other teams out west.

  • they beat the clippers retard and this is without the addition of lawson so ur making no sense and they no peverly !!!! haahah!!!. there clearly deep enough and talented enough to make it to the finals. again im just calling it as it is

  • Ha Kyrie and LeBron are 36X better than Haren and Lawson. And that’s no typo in my spelling of James’s last name If you catch my drift.

  • so many little ignorant fanboys on here who get there feelings hurt with everything. so sensitive :D. heres a bold statement for u little emotional fanboys THE LAKERS WILL NOT WIN MORE THAN 25 GAMES

  • You’re wrong both teams wanted him means they are betting he’ll come out for the better and will make their teams much improved.

  • His numbers were the best of his career, assist wise, but his shooting percentages were down due to the slowness of the system not to mention the most important aspect: Wins.. Those assists would vanish in Bryon’s system as it promotes a lot of ISO and there are no real spot up shooters in this Lakers roster.

    Ty Lawson’s best years were when he could run in George Karl’s system. The only reason I’d take Ty Lawson is for a future trade, but he has completely destroyed his trade value and a year with these Lakers will do nothing for it. I also think that DLo will learn faster from being thrown to the wolves than he will backing up Ty Lawson.

  • So let me get this right…clips keep Dre. Add pierce and Lance and Josh Smith FROM HOU and you think Houston is better than the Clips? Goodnite.

  • Lawson does NOTHING better than Kyrie besides drinking. Harden will always have the ball so we’ll rarely see Lawson pass to him

  • the lakers are better off not getting an alcoholic PG who will stunt the development of russell.

  • possibly. may i remind you that this is the clippers were talking. they can add whoever they want but at the end of the day there core group is still there. you can add all the little pieces u want. they change that every year and it never gets them anywhere so my point is yes its possible Houston can beat them cuz they did beta them last year fully healthy but with just different role players than his year that they have. so ya they can

  • ur a pure hater to anyone whos better than ur precious russell. wake up old man and smell the coffee

  • 😀 u cant argue. russel is better than lawson and a better fit right? 😀 u fanboys never get old hahah!!

  • they made it to the west finals without there best perimeter defender in peverly plus you add lawson to that now. ya they are clearly championship contenders on paper

  • He needs the ball in his hands to be successful, so does Harden. By the middle of this coming season, you will see what I’m talking about. Lawson is basically the 5’11 version of Harden. Harden and Patrick Beverly synergize with each other. Harden and Lawson don’t when they are on the floor at the same time.

  • Assuming this was true, it can say some insightful things….

    1) It shows the front office opinion of Russell as a starting PG option.
    2) It shows the front office opinion of Clarkson as a starting PG option.
    3) It shows a continued commitment to winning and upgrading.
    4) It shows that Young, Kelly and Sacre are still (presumably) tradeable pieces.
    5) I think, it shows that the team is pretty serious about Kobe playing SF next year.

    Let’s say this went through… We can presumably look at a roster *something* like this PRESUMING that Clarkson is to important to bench, and that Kobe is a very natural solution at SF for 25 minutes:

    PG: Lawson / Russell
    SG: Clarkson / Williams(a)
    SF: Kobe / Williams(b) / ABrown

    I hope the next trade target is Jennings. He could be a good 1-year veteran patch and long term backup.

  • They made it to the WCF because they faced an aging Mavs team in the 1st round and the Flippers in the 2nd round who are known to choke in the playoffs.

  • You are assuming Denver is trying to win this year.
    To me trading Lawson is a clear sign that they are going to ride Mudiay to a lottery pick.

  • “Hi, I’m a dumb1lakefan. I think Jahlil Okafor is a once in a decade kind of big. I’m also very high on Ty Lawson.”
    Who am I?

  • 5”11 version of harden? lol :D. i guess anybody who can score is a version of harden i guess to you

  • Honestly you are just a pest. I bet your parents have called you that right? You offer absolutely nothing constructive, even that fake troll with the multiple screen names seems to put things more eloquently than you do.

  • the FO probably just wanted to see if they could get him for next to nothing, being that his value just plummeted. no way were they going to give up russell, randle or clarkson.

  • I am suggesting as a 6th man shooter, he’s a swingman.
    Wing guys who chuck 3-point shots are somewhat interchangeable at times.

  • thank God we didn’t take okafor. he would be getting dunked all over for AT LEAST the next decade.

  • Who knows what Denver wanted? They didn’t get much in return from Houston.

  • Need high usage rate to be successful on the offensive end. Play practically no defense. That’s Harden and Lawson.

  • Don’t know how you inferred that. I don’t know of anyone that would want Kelly, Sacre, and Young to compete.

  • so the lakers missed out on bledsoe ,than cousins (?) and now lawson. way to go mitch 😀 good job getting proven talent. ur right stick with these rooks

  • Lawson and Harden are basically the same except one is 5’11 and the other is 6’5. Both of them need high usage rate on offense to be successful. And neither of them play defense.

  • I’m not sure I agree.
    Lawson is an upgrade to Beverly, but with Harden at SG, there is only one ball.

    To me, this only makes them marginally better and until they get rid of Howard, they have a fatal flaw.

    To me, the West has a clear top tier and is simple:
    1) Spurs
    2) Clippers
    3) Golden State
    4) All the Rest.

  • Translation: The inference is that Young, Sacre, and Kelly might help their winning odds.

  • Dead on. Seriously we’re discussing Ty Lawson. This doesn’t even make Houston better than a 5 seed

  • He gets paid a lot of money to be a backup SG.
    He’s going to get minutes.

    If Clarkson is the SG, and gets 30 minutes, did the front office just pay him $7M per year to play 18 minutes per game?

  • who else would the nuggets have asked for in trade? — you think the deal didn’t go down because mitch was unwilling to part with robert sacre? lol. you’re seriously too dumb for words.

  • I’m pretty sure the only reason the FO engaged in discussions with the Nuggets was to find a place to dump Sacre, Kelly and Nick Young. Getting Ty Lawson would have just been the bonus of that, but obviously once the Nuggets saw those names they said, “we are desperate to get rid of him, but not that desperate”.

  • they got a bunch of scrubs from the Rockets, which means they could have taken Sacre, Kelly and 2nd rounders. The X factor was the 1st pick.

  • Did you really just make something up to support some bullshit troll remark?

    Where did i EVER say the nuggets wanted Russell?
    If your life is sitting on the computer trolling, you are candidate to be the next 40-year old virgin if you aren’t already.

  • exactly, and since we can’t offer a first rounder, they very likely asked for one of our young ‘big three’. so glad mitch said NO.

  • Lakers struck out on Lawson. Seriously, you know how many of these guys are out drinking and partying and driving? this kid just happened to get caught. He is an elite PG, much better than any player on the Lakers. Keep trying to spin it into something positive…….lol

  • Are you freaking kidding me?
    They have another year, they got deeper as a team and added Josh Smith.
    Outside of injuries they should be a better team. And a slightly better team would have one atleast ONE game out of 3.

    It’s funny how people talk circles just to prove some flimsy point. — Just accept you are loose with your words and thoughts, and sometimes, you will be proven wrong.

  • YOU the one trying to ‘make something up.” Fact is the Lakers LOST OUT on Lawson. It’s that simple.

  • two DUIs are not bad luck. lawson has a problem. and russell’s upside is far greater.

  • Who said the Nuggets considered the possibility of a trade with the Lakers? As I said, Lakers don’t have sufficient assets to get Lawson.

  • if you think russell doesn’t have a high trade value anymore just because of a few average summer league games, you are an idiot.

  • Beverly and Lawson play the same position.
    And they still have Howard.

    I don’t see that this upgrade pushed them to the next tier…

    The next tier includes:
    Spurs, Golden State, and the Clippers*.

    To me, in a 7 game series, they would STILL lose to the Clippers IF the team doesn’t choke.

  • How else are you going to improve talent?
    Wait for Randle and Russell to be All-Stars.

    The front office doesn’t have 4 years bro.
    Free Agents are a must.

  • Dwight Howard / Donatas Motiejunas / Clint Capela
    Terrence Jones / Montrezl Harrell / Joey Dorsey
    Trevor Ariza / Sam Dekker / K.J. McDaniels
    James Harden / Corey Brewer
    Ty Lawson / Patrick Beverley / Pablo Prigioni

  • I wish I can find out where you live and murder your entire family into little pieces.

  • You are talking out your ass and probably drunk.
    Did mommy give you enough money to buy a .40 of Olde English?

    Had the team not sacrificed player development and assessment instead of wins, they would have had 25 wins in the LAST year.

    So you think that they can’t win 4 more games?
    Despite, L.Williams, Hibbert, Kobe, Randle, Bass, and all the rookies?

    — How did we get lucky and meet a Shit Talking Troll… I thought such things were fantasy land like Unicorns and Grouchy Ogres.

  • Lakers package was definitely better than what Houston offered………but there’s no doubt in my mind that because the Lakers have been destroying these teams for so long, that now no one wants to see the Lakers get better. Lawson would’ve made us better, Denver knew that, so they took that garbage deal Houston threw at them. It’s all good though.

  • Name the PGs better than him. I’ll start: CP3, Curry, Wall, Lilard, Westbrook. Your turn.

  • you want proof that the lakers run LA? all the clipper fans come to the lakers’ websites… they can’t stay away!

  • “Those assists would vanish in Bryon’s system as it promotes a lot of ISO and there are no real spot up shooters in this Lakers”

    That’s complete speculation as Lawson has already proved himself in both systems and he is a superior pg to anything we’ve got right now so you can’t argue against him stat wise. Now next up is Scott’s Princeton which promote movement and passing which theoretically should complement Lawson’s passing, the reason it does not work so far is due to many reasons but the most blame should and will always be blamed on the coach for not getting the team to play it well.

    Lawson being one of the top 5 pg in the west will make the Princeton even better than any other players we have at present.

    This is just point of discussion now but no doubt we would be better off with rather than without Lawson like some here thinks.

  • DeAndre Jordan- Grown man with a thought process of a 8 year-old.
    Blake Griffin-Flopper
    Paul Pierce- Done
    Lance Stephenson- Nutcase
    Chris Paul- Cries to the refs whenever he doesn’t get his way

  • It’s a decision that the Denver front office made. And in case you didn’t do your homework, they didn’t get a good return outside of a future 1st that is “to be determined.”

    What good is a 1st if it’s in the late 20’s?

    Look in a mirror bro:

  • Russell hasn’t even played a professional game yet, so how can he be a bust. Kobe, 5x champ, Clarkson, was beast mode last year, Randle, hasn’t played more than 15 mins in a pro game… he’s still developing. Roy, u say he’s weak minded, but his body is big……and that’s all we need in the paint…….a big body.

  • Benoit Benjamin – All time leading scorer
    Micheal Cage – Hall of Fame
    Ken Norman -Multiple All Star
    Gary Grant – Champion
    Danny Manning – 5x Champion

  • who knows what the lakers offered. i bet the lakers offered some combo of kelly, sacre and young… but DEN wanted one or more of the young ‘big three’.

  • chris paul averages 19 4 10 in his career with 0 of his titles coming because of david west

  • Obviously you didn’t do your homework, so here’s some insight: The Denver Front office chose Houston’s offer, which didn’t give them much in return.

    How does a team “lose out” when the decision isn’t theirs?

  • They love the Lakers, they were Lakers fans before the slippers ascended to the 2nd round playoff exits.


  • Doubt it. Teams know the Lakers aren’t giving up our future for just anybody.

  • rapist? LOL. no true rape victim brags about having had sex with her alleged rapist. it just doesn’t happen. a gold-digging star fucker would, however.

  • I’m torn…. Joshhh or ClippersRunLA or BucksGuy

    I guess it’s all the same.

  • save the effort man.. theres no point in replying to this guy with rationality

  • Lost out because Lakers didn’t get Lawson. Just like Mavs and Lakers lost out in free agency… and Clippers came out big winners.

  • so let me get this straight. Last July the Lakers were in serious discussions with stealing Phoenix suns current Franchise PG Eric Bledsoe. Eric felt like he deserved the max bla bla bla Suns said fuck off no. Eventually he got his moey since Mitch struck out. Than came along the trade deadline where the Lakers could legitimately gotten Dragic from Phoenix since he wanted out or could of gotten Reggie Jackson from OKC since he wanted out as well. Once again Mitch struck out again on 2 franchise caliber PG’s. Than Came along this june where the Lakers were seriously linked to Kings all star center Dermacus Cousins and they let that one slip away as well. And now the Lawson. Lawson wants out bla bla pretty much the same shit like dragic,bledsoe and reggie. So to sum up the Lakers over the past year have ahd 4 opportunities to strike GOLD in a trade by getting a franchise caliber player and they failed at all of them. And dont even say getting one of those guys is worse then keeping what you have now 😀

  • Howard, Ariza, Harrell, Dekker, Brewer all play good defense, even Harden improved last year.

  • I want to tear your face off every time you spew ignorance and end it with that fucking smiley face.

  • Well at least the nuggets are one less team the lakers have to worry about. The rockets were already good anyway they just got better but oh well

  • Just like the Clippers “Lost out” on Lebron, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, Lamarcus Aldridge.

    I see…..
    Clippers Double Standard.

  • Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2h2 hours ago
    The trade call with the league office to finalize the Ty Lawson deal is set for Monday morning, sources tell Yahoo.

  • If they’re franchise players why are the available in the first place smart guy?

  • i do agree on the randle part he does sometimes act like a whiny bitch like hes some 10 year vet haah!!!

  • Put down the bottle bro.
    Are you really drunk typing?

    Your ignorance is much greater tonight than most.
    And it’s not the full moon…. so it must be alcohol.

    Did you and Joshhh meet at the video game store and get malt liquor afterwards?

  • Short term yes we would be better, long term no. DLo needs all the minutes he can get to expedite his growth, with Lawson you aren’t making the playoffs anyway so what’s the point? You need to embrace the rebuild and not hinder it my choking up the minutes. Irving, Wall, Curry, Chris Paul, Lillard, Westbrook etc. all benefited from starting and playing as many games in their rookie years as possible. We all saw what Clarkson became after he got the keys to the team.

  • We didn’t pursue any of those players. Lakers expressed interest in Lawson. He went to the Rockets……

  • Yahoo Sources: Houston acquires Denver guard Ty Lawson in a trade.

  • If the package was Sacre, Kelly, & Young, then HOU’s package was better by virtue of HOU giving up a 1st rd pick, which is probably the only thing in the deal that DEN really wanted. Plus, Young is under contract thru ’17-’18, while everyone that HOU gave up except Nick Johnson had expiring contracts.

  • Whos is this joshhh guy anyway? Why is he on LakersNation 24/7 if all he does is talk trash about them?

  • to me it was the future 1st round pick.

    And that Young and Kelly might actually make them a slightly better team.

  • she’s a pistons fan. and really, really, really dumb. she once wrote the term “cereal killer” when she meant to write “serial killer”. it doesn’t get more stupid than that!

  • cuz they want out. so what ur telling me is cousins isn’t a franchise player? hahah!!! bledsoe isn’t? hahah!!! dude wake up all these guys are clearly way better than what the lakers have as of right now. lakers would be lucky and more than happy to have gotten of thsoe guys. 4 elite PG’S all struck out and 1 center. for what? a bunch of rooks? lol. the lakers must really wwant to sell

  • Clippers did pursue LeBron. He knew that he’ll never make it out of the 2nd round with them.

  • The point of this rambling idiot’s sayings which he has not touched on: Is that you can’t strike gold with a turd as a shovel. You need assets to begin with in order to form a trade, Sacre Kelly N Young will not get you gold.

  • High caliber player = Franchise caliber player

    Spin it however you want, but Lakers struck out again.

  • It worked in 94 & 95 with Van Exel and Jones. At some point they gone learn there is no FF button. When you develop the youth they make the team more desirable like 96- 99.

  • the fact that people are acting like an alcoholic ty lawson is a franchise player is the funniest joke ever.

  • All were in the lottery with the Lakers. So how do the Lakers get better by giving up more for these so called lottery franchise players braniac?


  • Snippers fans have to come to Lakers Nation to build confidence in themselves to affirm that they run l.a. To sort of psyche themselves out. Lol #StillAlakerstown

  • EASILY still a lakers town. the clips are less popular in this city than the LA galaxy!!!!!!!!!

  • keep thinking that. bla bla ur just allergic to the truth. that the lakers are a dysfunctional franchise

  • Their teams were in the lottery also. So every player the Lakers don’t sign or trade for mean they struck out? Brilliant.

  • Hey don’t compare the Galaxy to the Flippers! At least they brought a few titles to LA.

  • They didn’t improve their team. …. OK, slightly at best.
    Sure Lawson is an upgrade for Beverly – somewhat — but it’s a downgrade in defense, and Lawson’s ball handling (aka hogging) will affect harden’s production.

    They STILL aren’t better than the Clippers.

  • When were the Lakers in “Serious discussions” about Bledsoe?
    I stopped reading after that….

  • They are 5 years removed from their last Championship.

    How is that dysfunctional?

    Sounds like you are pouting again Joshhh…. Maybe it’s past your bed time, you sound cranky.

  • so called? sorry if its not a lebron dumbo. good luck in the lottery next year. im hearing theres a really good PG in next years draft. i forget his name . but whatev im sure u wont hit 2 straight busts in a row 😀 highly unlikely

  • it’s ok. when they come crashing out of the playoffs — again — cliff paul will be there to write up a claim.

  • What are these guys trying to prove???
    All their fans are bandwagoners because we’re rebuilding. I laugh at snippers fans like what are you celebrating?

  • Clippers>Lakers right now. And it will be that way for awhile, until lands someone either in FA or the draft to build around.


  • they’re so predictable. for a while after they lose in the playoffs, they’re quiet. then they start coming here to talk shit about being better than the lakers. therein lies the difference — the lakers only celebrate titles. the clippers celebrate being better than the lakers. i’m surprised they don’t have a parade.

  • This is a family forum. Would you want your kids or mom reading that comment?

  • The Clippers can win 17 straight titles in a row starting next season, and it will still be a Laker town.

  • Clippers fans running their mouths? How does it feel to be the ONLY team in Staples without a title? Even the Sparks have 2 lol.. Those selfie banners are cute but they don’t count.

  • So the Lakers have struck out on Bledsoe than Dragic and Reggie than Cousins and Now Lawson. For people who say fuck them we have Russel u have issues. big time. I dont recall you fanboys saying that when the lakers didn’t even know who Russel was 😀 everybody was on the bandwagon when this was happening. dont lie.

  • That’s not my point silly. Right now, the Clippers are better than the Lakers, who are the laughing stock in Staples. That’s just how it is. I’m a Laker fan, but it’s the truth.


    Damn. No wonder they have an inferiority complex.

  • I wanted either Towns or Okafor. Much easier to build around a big man than a PG/SG.

  • ESPN has Lawson ranked 15th best PG in the NBA. He would have started at PG for the Lakers if they got him.

  • Lets see… Russell was still in college when the Lakers were trying to go after both Bledsoe and Dragic. As far as Lawson, give me a break, he’s not elite, so I wont lose sleep over not getting him.

  • no way we could have gotten towns and okafor couldn’t protect the rim in the WNBA.

  • Dude stop going on different articles and writing the same shit. NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR IGNORANT OPINIONS.

  • They do have a cool light show. Hey Light Show Champions! Round of applause everyone.

  • “overly dramatically”… nice english, chump change. the fact that you consider lawson and reggie jackson franchise players underlines how stupid you truly are.

  • lol the fact that u want a russel over a lawson shows how literally delusional you are. im a laugh when lawson and the rest of the pg’s out rest destroy russel haaha!!!

  • Didn’t you spend January to July talking about Reggie?

    Did you forget?
    We didn’t.

  • Dude, you act like every big man comes into the NBA playing Defense. They get better as their career goes on. Look at all those guys who were around Kobe in 08, they got better on D. Defense will be taught to Okafor and he will be better in the long run than Russell.

  • “with Lawson you aren’t making the playoffs anyway so what’s the point”

    Tell that to the FO and to teams who are legitimately trying to compete, getting there or getting close and miss is better than being a bad team because we didn’t try. Teams that compete can tweak their roster to make themselves better, we are not even at that point where we can say we are tweaking it, you want to get there or close to there to have a chance of attracting free agents.

  • we’ll see, but the lakers don’t need rim protection some years down the road. they need it now. russell was the right move, as was getting hibbert for a second round pick. hibbert can actually guard the paint.

  • 15th best? LOL. yeah, what a shame the lakers didn’t get the guy. would have made us a title contender. lol

  • Yeah, Hibbert can guard the paint, but he gives you nothing Offensively.

  • People who like the Clippers are the same ones who like the Ducks and Angels lol.

  • considering the layup line that has been the lakers d over the past two years… so what if okafor will score 17 ppg? he’ll give it all up and then some on the other end. hibbert will protect the rim and actually hit his FTs.


  • Clipper fans must love UFC because those fights usually never go past the 2nd round…

  • lol. it looks like it was done by a remedial fifth grader.

    speaking of which, did shhhit for brains joshhh design it? LOL

  • I think he’s better than 15. Really only about 6 pg I would put ahead of him. but anyway it’s a moot conversation..

  • Clippers have been better than the Lakers for 3 years. Lakers have been better than the Clippers for 25 years…

    25 to 3

  • Those are the only times he got caught, not the only times he did it. Hope your family will be his next victims, annoying troll.

  • Am I the only who thinks it’s disrespectful for the Clippers to cover the Lakers banners with their own players pictures?

  • Lakers 0-7 vs. Clippers in previous 2 years. have not won a playoff game in 4 years 😉 lol

  • Last Lakers title 2010. When was Clippers last title? Ask Cliff Paul for help if you don’t know.

  • you’re an idiot. the point that David is trying to make is that the lakers have been better for 30 years. yet you keep avoiding that fact and keep talking about current times. its cuz you have no answer for the past 30 years

  • Why would anyone possibly want to be a fan of the Clippers? The only player I actually like is Chris Paul, I love his game and his intensity, but other than that… not much.

  • If the warriors decided to bring in veteran guys to take the place of Curry and Thompson, they wouldn’t have the current dynasty potential they do now, they had the option of trading Thompson for Kevin Love, they didn’t do that either. As it is they gave away their veteran Ellis because they knew they had a better piece to build around. Patience has been the biggest problem of this FO and indeed the fans. The CBA has changed the landscape and the Lakers have failed to adapt. Great teams must be built, not bought.

  • Clippers have no history, and the present has added nothing to that history so far.

  • you talk about the clippers like its the best sports in the world, so the present doesn’t matter as much as 50 years does

  • Worst Loss in Lakers History. Clippers 142 Lakers 94
    Worst Season in Lakers history (last year): 21-61

    Good luck this season with your scrubs. LOL

  • Presently you got the same prize as the Lakers. No title this year. Congratulations.

  • lakernation should of never been created. all it does is attract teenagers who have nothing else better to do with their lives

  • We are talking the last few years….you sound like an idiot digging back into the ancient past. lakers suck dude.

  • And this last season the Clippers choked in the 2nd round again despite having Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. Congratulations you win nothing, just like the Lakers, so considering all that I guess the last 4 seasons have been failures huh?

  • you are the one who is trying to say that the clippers are an amazing franchise. so YOU are the one who brings up the past. a franchise can’t be great without history

  • sure i am. but the way u replied u seem like an angry 17 year old boy banging on the closest door 😀

  • LOL. give him a break, man. the lakers play for titles. the clippers play to be better than the lakers. i’m surprised they don’t have a parade for it.

  • Dodger stadium erupted in cheers when Houston won game 7. What that tell you?

  • you guys set a new Lakers franchise record for worst season in Lakers history. 21-61

    I wouldn’t call that “nothing” haha

  • face it, he could kill anyone at any time on the road in his condition, let’s just hope it’s a member of your family, ideally you. You’re from Houston right? Cause you sure as shit aren’t a real Clipper fan.

  • that Lakerfans were at the baseball game since their team wasn’t even in the NBA playoffs 😉 haha

  • so the lakers have struck out on Lawson as well. Oh well not surprised add another to the bucket list ;D. i guess the lakers rather have Russel as their starting PG with Clarkson and Kobe at the 3. 😀 look around the league mitch and see what starting lineups look like

  • bust? LOL. the regular season hasn’t even started yet. hey, ever been to a clippers’ website? better question — do they even have those??

  • cool well we will see you in the postseason……………oh no, wait, I guess we won’t 🙂 lol

  • You’ve commented about this topic already, several times in fact. Do you have a life?

  • you guys were in rebuild mode for 40 years hahahaha. it took 40 years to build a team that can’t get to the west finals. that itself is more embarrassing than a 21-61 season ever will be

  • Russell had 8 turnovers, 1 assist in summer league. nice!! and his last game 3 turnovers, 1 assist. looks GREAT for a pass first PG. lmao

  • yup. i just want people to be aware of whats really going on in laker land


  • yes, summer league means everything. great point. you should really work in the clippers front office, since you know so much about the game. you could even be in charge of planning the “we made the playoffs!!” parade!

  • shhhit for brains joshhh also guaranteed that the lakers would draft okafor and subsequently trade for stanley johnson. so when he makes his brilliant predictions, y’all had better listen up and take notes.

  • Let’s throw Joshhh in the octagon with Ronda Rousey and see how long he lasts.

  • go anywhere but locked in ur closest 24 /7. parents wont let u out? that sucks 🙁

  • I aint surprize atall by did. Lawson spoke to Dwight an in five minoutes made a desission.

  • I’m usually at your house fucking your slut of a mother while your dad watches

  • and yet stanley is looking like the player of the draft and your acting like a little whiny bitch 😀

  • a rookie’s summer league game has nothing to do with the conversation of the clippers lakers franchise conversation

  • could someone please post a link to the site that details the road closures in los angeles for the clippers’ “we made the playoffs and the lakers didn’t!!!” parade? much appreciated.

  • thats cool larry. u must of really hated or really sucked at basketball to just quit like that. was it because you raped ur teammates in the locker rooms every game?

  • when is the trade gonna happen, kiddo? and we’re getting okafor, right? don’t tell me your pistons are gonna get jahlil!

  • see attached vdogg. lol. hey I gotta run to a party to celebrate the resigning of DJ6, acquisition of Pierce, Lance, and Josh Smith. tata 4 now!

  • Just start at staple center and head west. Keep going until you hit the water.

  • u must of played larry. since u were always high as fuck bashing into poles 😀

  • Lawson is a fine fine player, I agree. Lakers struck out on this one, big gain for Houston but don’t consider them a monster…….certainly contenders tho. #CRLA

  • DJ6 resigned? you mean he changed his mind again? big shock. and pierce has a lot left in the tank, obviously. did he bring his wheelchair to LA with him? hope so.

  • when am i “gonna 18”? what does that even mean..? when are you going to learn basic english?

  • Getting Lawson would have made us a playoff team. Now it’s back to the lottery without pick…

  • hes got more than kobe thats for sure kiddo. since he keeps hitting big shot after big shot while kobe missed big shot after big shot. 0/13 last season kiddo 😀

  • i see. so you’re a clippers fan now? what happened to the pistons? way to copy me with the “kiddo” remark. original as always, shhhit for brains!

  • DeAndre Jordan – Wilt Chamberlin 2.0
    Blake Griffin – Karl Malone 2.0
    Paul Pierce – Top 5 All Time
    JJ Redick – Best College Basketball Player of All Time
    Chris Paul – Isiah Thomas 2.0


  • beverly hills, actually. but hey, you were closer to being right on that one than you usually are on here. only a couple thousand miles off.

  • PG D’Angelo Russell/Jordan Clarkson
    SG Kobe Bryant/Lou Williams/Jabari Brown
    SF Nick Young/Anthony Brown
    PF Brandon Bass/Julius Randle/Larry Nance/Ryan Kelly
    C Roy Hibbert/Tarik Black/Robert Upshaw/Robert Sacre

  • no dont you remeber they want kobe at the 3 an Clarkson starting lol ;D. (sarcasm)

  • Dude i shit you not but i recently saw a picture of Kobe Bryant and man he looks skinny as fuck and he is starting to look old so i rather him play at shooting guard since he looked around 175 to 185 pounds soaking wet. Otherwise sign Glen Robinson iii and try developing him. Lakers can start Anthony Brown i suppose but he might be too raw.

  • but thats not what they want remember ? 😀 they want a 37 year old at the 3 and Clarkson at the 2 lol

  • Don’t worry about Gilbert. Even with the services of James, Irving, and Love for the next two years, I doubt the Cavs will win a title.

  • Lol i have even heard people saying either Ryan Kelly or Julius Randle should start at small forward Lol. I rather Nick Young get the starting position at small forward and build up his confidence and trade value as a starter. But again Anthony Brown is a option at small forward as is perhaps Larry Nance if they can train him to make some jumpers. Can Nance play small forward?

  • YOU’RE ONE OF THEM, MORON! Seriously, you aren’t even a Laker fan, and spend so much damn time on here. You should seriously reevaluate your life! Also, it’s spelled SHOULD’VE (as in SHOULD HAVE), not SHOULD OF. I am seriously so tired of seeing your pointless, dumbass rants all over every board. GTFOH and get a life!

  • Clipped came out as weiners all right.

    What a classy thing to do, literally steal and hold another teams future player hostage.

  • Houston isn’t going to win a championship next year. Also keep in mind that their coach is still Kevin McFail.

  • Yet he couldn’t lead his former team to the playoffs the last two seasons and has never advanced past the first round when he did.

  • Your an idiot for coming to a Laker blog and seeking approval from Laker fans for a bunch of losers called the LA Clippers….. LOL right back at you

  • Clippers keep striking out in the playoffs. Never been out of the second round. Shhhhh

  • Along with the fact that him and Clarkson will be training with Steve Nash this summer, which I think is a great idea.

  • The way I see it, we dodged a bullet getting Lawson. He’s a cancer and a nuisance to any team he’s on. He won’t get along with McHale and he might even clash with Howard or Harden. I’m glad we didn’t part with our future players for him. Plus it would mean someone is going to be on the bench, and that would mess up LA’s plans. Let the Rockets implode when it comes time to decide who’s going to start at PG between Beverly and Lawson.

  • Why not, he’s fast enough, and athletic enough. His mid range game is good. He’s not a three point threat though.

  • I would love them to hire Ryan West (Jerry’s son) as the next GM. He is the one who found Clarkson. His dad has taught him well so far.

  • Your delirious if you think Mr State farm Paul is better than Magic, or Wheelchair Pierce is better than Big game James Worthy, Reddik couldn’t carry Kobe or West’s jock straps, Griffin can’t do anything but dunk, Baylor AVERAGED a triple double for an entire season, and Jordan couldn’t guard Shaq or Wilt or Kareem even in his dreams. This post shows how out of touch you really are, just a desperate kid looking to try to rile someone up to get attention, because your parents don’t pay any attention to you, and girls pass you by because your ugly, unemployed, and you probably have a small dick.

  • If anyone cares:

    Summer League MVP: Kyle Anderson (Spurs)

    Samsung All-NBA Summer League First Team
    Kyle Anderson (San Antonio)
    Seth Curry (New Orleans)
    Doug McDermott (Chicago)
    Norman Powell (Toronto)
    T.J. Warren (Phoenix)

    Samsung All-NBA Summer League Second Team
    Larry Drew II (New Orleans)
    Emmanuel Mudiay (Denver)
    Dwight Powell (Dallas)
    Noah Vonleh (Portland)
    Alan Williams (Houston)

  • you know there’s an alley near my house where many dogs like yourself wander all day. can get you in their club. interested?

  • you drunk, aren’t you? good. good. keep it up. just don’t forget to drink a lot of water.

  • Well as entertaining it is to watch joshhh post idiotic things and then follow them with illiterate comebacks…It kinda ruins this website

  • Doug McBuckets crawled out of his funk and did it big. I bought his rookie card thinking his auto patch rookie last year, fuck i overpaid for it now he sucks but i guess this is his big comeback route using the sl. We’ll see.

  • I really like Alan Williams. If Houston sign him, they’d have Williams, Dekker and Ty as new additions. Good for them. We suck lol

  • Long-term seems like the best move but placing him in the hot seat off the bat (GM) doesn’t sound right. I’d rather he be assistant first and work his way up but if Kupcake happened to become VP then he could help Ryan’s transition being Mitch’s been GM for 15 yrs.

  • I actually watched Alan Williams play live a bunch of times when he was at UC Santa Barbara, he is a big beast. But in the NBA he will not be able to dominate since they will be just as big or bigger, but he will be a role player like Taj Gibson. Ya man our lakers are not competing for the playoffs lol.

  • West standings after Lawson trade:
    1. Spurs
    2. Warriors
    3. Clippers
    4. Thunder
    5. Rockets
    6. Grizz
    7. Pelicans
    8. Jazz
    9. Lakers
    10. Mavs
    11. Suns
    12. Kings
    13. Blazers
    14. Timberwolves
    15. Nuggets
    Jazz will be lakers biggest competition for the 8th seed

  • agree with most of it. except I’d move Thunder to 3rd seed, Dubs to 1st. Also, I highly doubt that Mavs finish ahead of Suns. I think the 8th seed will be a fight between Jazz and Suns. I’d not pin high hopes on our season.

  • Before the summer league started some people would have bet their mortgage that at least 1 Lakers player would be on that list you have.:(

  • brah it’s not about the playoffs.. i meant our FO sucks. we could have made some moves… like go after KJ McDaniels or some of the other athletic wings that have now signed with other teams.. our FO needs a kick up the butt.

  • Don’t count out the Mavs. D-Will can still put up numbers and justin anderson is looking like a stud and a nice piece until Wesley Matthews comes back. Parsons is a great player and dirk is still dirk. They have a decent team.

  • Parsons is “a great player” ?

    Brah I think the word “great” is being flung around too loosely these days. There are only 2-3 “greats” in the NBA right now.

  • Suns will make the playoffs, Defense improved with Tyson adding rim protection and Bledsoe and Knight get a full year together plus Devin Booker is looking like the real deal another Klay Thompson he dropped 31 points today. Also Markief and Len plus Tucker and T.J. Warren and Mirza they are getting in.

  • I feel you on that man. The FO is not aggressive and they are way too passive in making moves. I was peeping the Summer League and Glen Robinson iii stood out to me for some reason and i know he was ranked #15 on the NBA DRAFT NET big board for players last draft some say one of the best drafts ever and he is not signed and a young small forward ding ding connect the dots we need a small forward and he is young athletic and a defensive player that can score and cheap contract but FO probably rather sign his dad at this point and time. Sometimes i wonder if they smoking something. Jim Buss looks like a druggie lol. Playoffs are not a thing i expect.

  • no way the lakers are finishing above the suns. blazers are better than 13 man. the point is lakers will probably finish around that 10-14 mark

  • We’ve been screwing up all along. At the start of Free Agency, we should have targeted two guys specifically – Tyson Chandler and DeMarre Carroll. Two guys that are not first tier talent, but fantastic defenders. Two guys that we could have afforded. We were too busy chasing LMA, DeAndre and big stars. If we’d have got Chandler, Carroll and drafted Russell, we’d have immediately got a proper starting 5. We need to learn from Morey. That guy is always making amazing moves. He got Josh Smith at a timely stage last year and he helpd them in the playoffs. We are lagging behind not just on the court, but off the court. And that is a bigger worry for me.

  • Tyson is not the same dude he won’t put them over the top. Markief will be traded soon with his pouty ass. What makes you think Len, tucker, mirza, and warren are better than young, Lou will, bass, a brown, j brown, and black

  • Thunder with westbrook and durant are a top 4 seed. Pelicans and Jazz are tough bro and you know it

  • Oh for sure i agree with you. The FO needs to be on point when making moves, OK drafting D’Angelo was great but not getting Tyson Chandler or anyone for that matter stinks of course. But they missed on all the small forwards also, that’s a double whammy for the FO. Hibbert and Lou Williams and Bass is the final receipt ya i’m very underwhelmed with that. I have heard some bad shit about Roy Hibbert from too many people to just ignore it. Lou is a sixth man of the year OK we got Swaggy P. who has had a similar role for years, so redundant. Bass is a veteran bench player, no big signing.

  • the thunder could be a top 4 seed but remember they have got worse every season since making the finals. this team as it is now is not as good as it was two seaons ago and the clippers, gsw, hou, mem, and sas are all as good if not better.

    okc could easily fall to the 6th seed.

    i will give you the pelicans but not the jazz. they are very overrated and it will be proven next season.

  • What helps this laker team is that their bench is going to be good next year. Probably just as good as 2013-2014 aka the bench mob

  • better roster, backward system / coaching staff / anlaytics dept. dubs and spurs are classic cases of teams thriving because of an efficient system over star-studded roster. Cavs, Rockets, Clippers can pile on all the stars they want, but Kerr and Pop will outsmart them when it matters.

  • yep we have had a top 5 bench in the last two seasons but no starting lineup now we have a bench still and a solid starting lineup

  • the spurs went out in the first round last year because of the clippers talent.

    the gsw were very lucky last season

  • Spurs still have 5 rings. Clippers, with all their talent, are still to reach a conference final in 45 years. System beats Talent 8 out of 10 times. Kobe and Shaq are once-in-a-lifetime players but they were lucky to play under PJ. And vice-versa. PJ was lucky to coach MJ/Kobe. Let’s be honest here. If Duncan wouldn’t have had Pop, he’d have retired by now. His rings would have stopped after 2005. He endured and endured because of Pop’s amazing system.

    LBJ has all the talent in the world. Why do you think he keeps running around every year, trying to find a new star trio or whatever? Gotta realize how great PJ and Pop are/were.

  • Dubs were not lucky. It’s 50/50 between Dubs and Spurs for next season. Cavs never winning a ring. Ever. I’d give Thunder a better shot than Cavs. Durrant is due.

  • If the Lakers somehow were able to draft Townes… U better believe they would have traded Clarkson, with the catch being Denver would have to accept Swaggy, Sacre, and Kelly…

    But alas, the East has one super-team. The West has 4: Spurs, Clips, Rox, GSW.

    Hey KD, if u don’t come to the Lake show, please go to the East… Someone, at least be a second speed bump for the CAVs

  • its not their fault that injuries occurred around them. that’s a bullshit excuse. dubs won 83 games last year. 83.

  • this is just not true. the hawks are running the same system the gsw and spurs do but they failed to beat a banged up cavs because of lebron james.

    you need talent and a great system.

    the spurs are done

  • To be honest… As annoying as it would be for dwight to get a ring. I’d rather it be them than the Spurs.

    I’m rooting for all teams that can beat the Spurs and Cavs

  • and they still got luck to make it to the finals.

    if the grizz had conly the grizz are in the nba finals

  • you need talent to ensure a great system is executed. but talent alone doesn’t get it done. hawks lack talent. i agree with that. they need a superstar to get to the nxt level.

    spurs have LMA and Kawhi for the next 5 years at least. Pop coaching until 2019. Don’t know about them being ‘done’.

  • the spurs wont be winning a title again in the duncan era so in that way they are done

  • conley missed only 2 games. wouldn’t have made that big a difference. curry actually scored 35+ points when conley was back for games 5 and 6. curry is so fast, it doesn’t matter which defender is on him. his teammates run fantastic screens. that system in Oakland is otherworldly.

  • conley was never back he was playing but he was always a step slow and hurt his team more then he helped.

    a healthy mem vs a healthy gsw the griz win 7 out of 10 times

  • again, never know. you may be right. i won’t argue. get the feeling this is durrant’s year. let’s see. i’ll tell you one thing though. LMA and David West were BORN to play for a coach like Pop. They are hand and glove. Unselfish players. It wouldn’t surprise if Spurs win the whole thing.

  • Almost every team in the west has a legit starting PG now.
    Steph curry
    Russell Westbrook
    Chris Paul
    Tony Parker
    Damian Lillard
    Mike Conley
    Eric Bledsoe
    Ty Lawson
    Jrue holiday
    Rajon rondo
    Deron Williams
    D’angelo Russell
    Ricky Rubio
    Emmanuel mudiay
    Dante exum

  • they lack the depth this season their old ig three are going to be banged up come playoffs.

    parker has no legit back up and manu cant stay healthy.

    tim duncan is going to be playing alot of center now which will be harder on him.

  • an eye injury does not hamper your speed and defensive ability. he was still at least 70% fit. i’m pretty sure he played 30+ mts in Games 5 and 6. I saw those games like a hawk. Trust me, Curry had his number after his initial struggles. There was no stopping Curry.

  • Lakers are still paying off multiple first round picks for Nash and Dwight….

    The Lakers would be a surprise team anyway to make the playoffs… If they did, the hope is they beat either the Spurs or the Rockets… Not likely…

  • can’t base anything of ifs/buts/if onlys. i can say if only shaq and kobe stuck it out, we’d have won 20 rings by now. we’d have won 3 more than those damn celtics. no room for ifs and buts. injuries are part of the game.

  • The Rockets traded them four trash players who never play and a 1st round pick. Denver also sent them a 2nd round pick so how awful was the Lakers offer that they declined it?

    Totally lopsided trade that should not be allowed. They got a star PG without giving up anything. Unreal how ridiculous that trade is.

  • Yup. Honestly, this season just feels like a tribute to Kobe. And so it should be. No point tanking coz we’re not getting that top-3 pick. Rather just play hard and enjoy the game. Jeanie has already said that “this season is all about Kobe Bryant.”

  • They should’ve signed Rondo if that was the case. It was more to acquire another asset mostly IMO being trying to utilize him in a future trade package before the trade deadline or next year’s FA.

  • Dude, it started with NOT bringing back JWest when Phil stopped coaching… And then hiring Mike Brown over Adelman for a team that still had
    Fish, KOBE, Gasol, LO, Bynum…. They actually gave OKC a hard time despite Mike Brown’s killing the team at practice.

    In any case, they wasted the remaining years KOBE had left… He was still playing at a high level.

  • They were a #2 seed without him. How are they not going to be top 5 now with his addition? Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, Clippers will likely be the top 5.

  • One thing is for sure. A backcourt of Harden-Lawson would be terrible defensively. Curry, Westbrook, Durrant are going to have a field day playing Rockets. Beverly should have been their starting PG. Lawson can’t defend to save his life. Let’s not even get into Harden.

  • They are allowed to trade first rounders as far as 7 yrs. FO should’ve traded the 27th pick along with a player for a vet. They still would’ve acquired Nance Jr. too being he was projected to go in the mid 40’s.

  • Agreed… Russell has a chance to be special. His SL is better than some all NBA players today…. And yet some SL studs also flames out when they faced the real teams(starters).

    Dream scenario is Lakers somehow keep their top 3 protected pick (which would be less of a stretch than the Cavs getting all those top slotted picks 3 out of 4 years

  • I don’t see Duncan, Parker or Manu playing even 25 mts during regular season. Pop always keeps them fresh for playoffs. Duncan will play 22-23, Manu 16 and Parker 28.

  • If Jeannie fires her Bro and moves Kupchak to VP, then Jerry West’s son has a chance at GM…. There is no way he wouldn’t bring his pops in as a consultant

  • Swaggy P dropped 26 pts. & 13 rebounds in drew league . He looks good again got his mojo back, and a sore ankle.
    video on ballislife

  • Gilbert is just a Laker hater! Didn’t see him sending out e-mails on that OccupyDJ resident by the Clippers.

  • Team defense goes a long way. Harden was always a weak defender yet they got to the WCF while Beverley was injured and old man Jason Terry starting. This is GREAT for them. If they survived with a Terry/Harden combo then Lawson should work. Lawson can shoot and is a good passer. Thats the thing though-they didn’t even have to give up Beverley who is their so called defensive stopper at PG. The only problem is he can’t really shoot and isn’t a good assist man. This just adds more to their arsenal. It makes me sick.

  • Nah, Bledsoe’s overpaid, smart move to which the Nuns can’t find a suitor for him now being they want to trade him. Dragic never heard any offers and only dealt with the Heat (no surprise there). Reggie signed a good deal to which the Pistons would’ve matched any offer (no one took a shot in acquiring him too).

    Cousin’s is still a toss up being if it don’t pan out between the coach and player he may get placed on the chopping block before the trade deadline or ext off season (if Karl isn’t axed first). Lawson would’ve been nice but more of an asset to utilize in a future trade package as opposed to the next pg for the next 3+ yrs.

  • Brandon Wright and Matt Barnes. Just a made a top 5 defensive team even better on defense. You forget Houston loss Josh Smith too. They are horrid defensively.

  • Surprised we couldn’t land him. I’m sure we could have packaged a deal for him. First round pick, J brown, kelly, sacre and possibly another player would have been just.. Wonder what we offered. Ty Lawson is a great pg. he’ll definitely make the rockets better. Spurs are still the favorite though that roster is just wow

  • Curry Westbrook Paul Rose Kyrie Conley Dragic Bledsoe Parker lillard. Lawson maybe top 15. Not even close to top 5

  • Apparently they did present a package involving Kelly, Sacre, Young and possible other assets. But you can’t beat 4 players to waive plus a protected 1st round draft pick. Apparently they wanted Clarkson, the only light out of the darkness last year. So I’m actually glad we didn’t go for something like this.

  • Wake up man. West is done woking for the Lakers. Jimmy had nothing to do with West leaving.

  • Just read some reactions from the NBPA and it doesn’t look good for 2017… Silver’s declared some teams are losing money despite the new TV contract that will get major benefits throughout the league, the first consequence of it being the cap explosion that is just barely starting this year. Just after the announcement of Forbes’ most valuable sports franchises…
    Looks like the players don’t buy it and I’d tend to agree with them. I don’t care much for the spoiled brats who got contracts way above their paygrade this summer, but all the minimum contracts role players could greatly benefit from a new CBA…
    Looks like the lockout might truly happen.

  • papanikolau,dorsey,nick johnson,prig and 1st rd pick for lawson(2yrs contract) and 2017 2nd rd pick…

    i think it should be VETOED….prig and dorsey are benchwarmers, papanikolau and nickJ are on rookie scale BUT they aint gettin no PT….HOU ACQUIRED LAWSON WITHOUT LOSING THEIR CORE



    but then I realized, NBA didnt see the “LAKERS” in the trade so………..

  • lawson-harden-ariza-TJ-dh

    bench: thton,mcdaniels,brewer and Dmo/Capela since Mchale uses short rotation

  • ariza and brewer on the wing, TJ and DH front, bev backup point….even got mcdaniels benched smh…

  • IMO, doubt it, especially with all the revenue coming forth. This is likely due to teams placing a crappy product on the floor which thus doesn’t help to sell seats (ex. 76ers). You’d likely see Silver and the NBA go after more revenue from the bigger generating team’s like the Lakers and Knicks who have to distribute their revenue. F that take them to court.

    That’s not the Lakers or Knicks problem that those teams stink and fail to generate revenue with weak marketing campaigns. If you build something they will come along with the $$$. Look at the Wolves recent spike in attendance along with the Bucks. That’s a franchise issue. Force those inept FO’s to sell their teams to more business savvy people as opposed to asking for more revenue while making excuses for those franchises inept moves.

    The Buss kids should be thankful for what Dr. Buss has built given their dysfunctionality. Although, the players guaranteed contracts don’t help things much too. I’d be cool with contracts becoming non-guaranteed after the end of the 2nd year (50% of the contract has been met) on a 4 year deal and after the 3rd year on a 5 year deal.

    As we can see it doesn’t help out franchises too when players who are paid immensely fail to live up to their contracts for off the court issues or health reasons. Pretty fair there as in the end the salary cap will likely get hard capped once it reaches $100+ mil IMO.

  • I’m thinking it should get vetoed too. I thought the new CBA was supposed to prevent these super teams we are seeing nowadays.

  • “They offered Papanikolaou, Prigioni, Dorsey, Nick Johnson…”
    This sounds like a law firm, not a group of basketball players 🙂

  • The Clippers started their decline before they reached their prime. Rare, very rare.

  • Since some are talking about the Rockettes lol.

    ‘He told me he was a single guy’: Australian student ‘enjoyed night of passion’ with James Harden… days after Hawaiian break with love interest Khloe Kardashian

    http://www. dailymail. co. uk/tvshowbiz/article-3167561/Rochelle-Relf-enjoyed-night-passion-James-Harden-days-Hawaiian-break-love-Khloe-Kardashian.html

  • Reviewing the last few possible trades for the Lakers in the last 3 years especially those trades concerning veteran starters, I get the impression that the Lakers front office doesn’t have the negotiating skills other teams have especially against the Houston Rockets. Just the last 18 months alone, Houston has nabbed more talent that the Lakers wanted for less than the Lakers appear to offer so what seems to be the problem?

  • It’s very obvious at this point. Lawson is a big headache for Denver. He maybe good but he can’t carry the team either. A protected 1st round pick (aside from the players mentioned in the trade) in my mind is enough compensation for Denver to have at this point.

  • Then we should’ve traded 5 drunk players who can play basketball drunken style.

  • Big blow??? what do the Lakers have right now for them to be considered successful this season? They’re not gonna be serious contenders for the title… Lakers would consider this season a successful one IF they see Clarkson, Russell, Randle (plus the young recruits) can really ball at the NBA level and with real competition. That will be the measure of success for the lakers.

  • Unlike the Rockets who only give out their 1st round draft pick for the current season they are in, last year with Lin, this year with Ty Lawson. The Lakers don’t have a 1st round pick to give away until 2020. Also the Lakers have not been stockpiling talent, instead choosing to sign veterans to one year deals. In order to make trades you first need sufficient assets to begin with. The Rockets have been picking up young assets for years. Even this year they have signed Harrell, Dekker and may also pick up Alan Williams. They picked up Tarik Black last season undrafted, but had to waive him to make room for Josh Smith. The Lakers have only just started down this route, with 8 young guys likely on the roster.

  • Now were left with 3 horrible contracts. Well the bright side of it is both Kelly and Sacgarbage will not be back next year and Hopefully Young will be traded in February at the trade deadline.

  • thank goodness they didn’t bite on trading Clarkson….that would be insane! All this would have done was stunt the growth of our guards…..UNLESS we could have basically gave NOTHING for him….then it would be worth that risk. But Hibbert Kobe and Lawson are not winning a championship….so why burn our future? whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

  • I know this is unpopular amongst the Lakers fans but I would trade Clarkson for Devin Booker. He is having a great summer league games and way younger than Clarkson. Him and Russell will become our own version of splash brothers.

    Russell will get more assists with Booker because he can hit 3 while Clarkson has the tendency to dribble and handle the ball like a combo guard.

  • i don’t think anyone will be mad at ya.. because the deal you’re proposing isn’t anywhere close to being on the table.

  • ok, now that this nonsense is over, time for the lakers to sign dorell wright with the 2.8 million they have left.

  • The Lakers should have given up Clarkson, Russell or Randle. If the Lakers don’t win a minimum of 40 games this year the free agents won’t be interested. Unless they hire Coach K. The pros who played for him in World Games or Olympics might sign.

  • A drunk one, so you don’t know how that turns out? Don’t give anything of value for him. ….The Lakers aren’t desperate for a guard.Especially one with a drinking problem.

  • Don’t Worry about Howard getting a ring. He and Harden love the strip club more than they love the court.

  • I’m glad we didn’t leverage the future for a drunk driver.
    We need dedicated guys with high character. Thus far, it seems clarkson, Russell and Randle all have the sort of drive and willingness to put in the hours in the gym to succeed. Hopefully some of that Kobe work-ethic DNA rubs off on them before he calls it a career.

  • so the free agents are interested NOW? lol. and 40 wins are gonna make them come running?? LOL! we need to build for the future, bro. there is no quick fix for what we are in. thank God you’re not running the FO.

  • Who cares, because once again we didn’t get him… I’m just curious what we offered

  • This deal is good for the lakers if Clarkson will never develop a consistent shot from 3s; from the way he’s shooting this summer, Clarkson doesn’t have it yet.

  • funny how some guys where saying it would take minimum Clarkson+ to get Lawson when the reality was we had the better offer in terms of players but the Rockets offered salary relief and a late 1st rounder…
    Curious to see just how good our bench will be will microwave scorers in Lou, Nick and Jabari, sprinkled in with some toughness with Tarik and Brandon…could /should be top 5 and the difference between a 3-35 win team and a legit threat to the 7/8 seed against the Jazz/Pelicans who might I add we did very well against without Kobe, Julius, Roy and you get the point……

  • Yes! Lakers! You got it right.Look but don’t buy!Why would you give anything of value for him?I wish him a recovery, but 2Dui tickets in 6 mos.Stay with your young one’s

  • The Lakers don’t need him?Why?He is just going to bring problems that need baby sitting.

  • That is why they weren’t interested this year. Money is the same. Top free agents want a chance to win a title. Phil Jackson stated that was Knicks problem too. Plus Lawson is 27 years old.

  • lawson is not going to give the lakers a chance to win a title, bro. he’s not even a top 10 PG in the NBA. and he’s a 5’11 alcoholic — i don’t think potential FAs are lining up to play with a player who fits that description… mitch made the right call.. you’ll see.

  • The Lakers didn’t lose out.They avoided a Major Problem.. All talent is not right for your team.Especially a team with young guards.. How were they going to look for guidance from him!???


  • He’s an asshole for taking his car after having been drinking, but two drinking evening in half a year doesn’t make you an alkoholic, let’s be serious. I’d have spent my whole university time in rehab compared to these two ridiculous mishaps… And the decade after that too.

  • Russell is a bust buddy…….but he has lots of potential and upside 😉 lol

  • perhaps not… but you don’t know how many times he got into his car blitzed out of his mind and luckily DIDN’T get pulled over.

  • What are the chances of Jordan Clarkson and Anthony Brown buying into the theory of being defensive stoppers? If they do, the lakers will be good for a long time. They are athletic and long enough to shut down superstar wing players if they work together, but they have to sacrifice a little of their offense to put energy into being defensive stopper.

  • Dude’s a millionaire…Call a cab…Call Uber…Shit, call a limo if need be, but to do it twice shows he either doesn’t care or is just that arrogant that he thinks he’s above the law…Either way, pretty stupid move.

  • Nobody knows, hence we should judge only what’s been reported, right? Well, we shouldn’t judge at all, let’s just say we’re weighing him as a decent NBA employee. Based only on those two events the only thing I can actually blame him about is taking his stupid car and jeopardizing others lives.

  • The popular thing to do right now is include Swaggy in every package and I get it…But it make sense to wait and see him in training camp.He could be of Value if Kobe goes down… He don’t need to be traded rt now.But of course if the deal is rt…But he is a scoring wing that can play the 3 if needed.And Kobe is a question?

  • so just two DUIs then? that’s all, right? no big deal. LOL! no way in hell would i trade one of our young ‘big three’ for that lush. mitch made the right call.

  • hes cheap can be had at 3 to 4 million..lakers might do a sign and trade with cavs still

  • Hell, I’m not saying that’s nothing, very far from that. I’m only saying that doesn’t make an alkoholic out of him. Talking about alkohol won’t solve the problem of taking the car deliberately when he shall have never done that… Confiscate his driving license, rather, that would work better.

  • i think la lakers find from others teams to make trade deal sacre and kelly with use cash make good deal right now

  • Houston was only the #2 seed because Spurs lost the last game of the season. If San Antonio beat the Pelicans, Houston would have been the 6th seed.

  • Delly had a good couple of games early on…After that, Curry shat in his lunchbox

  • Use your head, the F.O. did the rt thing.Why trade for him???Look but don’t Buy..You would need a baby sitter and then the fans would turn around and say Jim Buss Made a bad move…leave Lawson alone.

  • If we could have gotten him for Nick, Sacre & Kelly, then fine…But no way I give up Russell, Clarkson or Randle.
    I think Mitch felt the same way, so yeah…He made the right call in that regard…But he was also smart to try to trade for peanuts if possible.

  • he would start for lakers this aussie can ball and defend better than our current pgs

  • Maybe the best remaining, but we have Russell, Clarkson, Buycks, Brown and Kobe to handle the ball…Why bother with Delly and help the Cavs in any way?
    He ain’t worth it….Lawson was worth exploring, Delly not so much.

  • This is one that don’t Bitch And Cry…I have seen it Too many times..they have already hit rock bottom…So I’m one that can handle all of the Laker Bashing…. Bring it on….This ain’t new… I have seen 11 Championships and some rebuilding.. So take your best shot..I won’t bitch or moan.?!?But you are right…There are some dumb emotional fans… And some make some really stupid comments.

  • delli can start over all those kids he just played in the finals.would be a good addition to lakers and more importantly would improve our defense

  • Josh killed the Clippers in the playoffs, yet Houston let him walk…This on the heels of the Pistons outright dumping him…Something’s wrong there.

    …Which is why I’m glad he joins the Clippers…Let the cancer infect the redheaded step-child of LA basketball, not the varsity squad.

  • It’s whatever that we didn’t get him. He wouldn’t make or break us. Just another solid player. I’m just curious what we offered

  • They also brought in Lance Stephenson who turned Charlotte from a playoff team to a lottery team.

  • The dude is scrappy, but limited. Hey, if Mitch agrees with you and he joins the Lakers, I’ll root for the guy…But I wouldn’t hold my breath for that to happen.

  • exactly hes a scrappy player more importantly he guards multiple positions well like no other guard..mitch would be smart to sign delli

  • Lakers cannot continue to give up 1st round picks like a ho in Thailand giving up her puhtang! So glad this did not result in that outcome with Lawson coming
    back. Hope they give Jabari Brown a shot. They should have signed Josh Smith on the cheap

  • No but being a bad influence in the locker room and quitting on your coach, makes you a head case with a drinking problem?

  • Thanks,some fans need to let go of the past? The team is turning around now, and yet people are still bitching and moaning about the pass, every team will rebuild at some point.

  • The three, YOUNG, SACRE & KELLEY are the ony things left to trade along with a few 2nd rounders in the future maybe…

  • Matthew Dellavedova — He’s one of the most popular remaining free agents … Theres reportedly interest with the Lakers

  • Questions to ponder for next year that can affect wins total:

    Can Roy Hibbert turn back the clock and become an all star again for the Lakers?
    Who will start at pg if we can’t acquire anyone else, Clarkson or Russell?
    Will Kobe last past 50 games?
    If we’re well under .500 by mid point, will the FO can B Scott?

  • free agency is far from over lakers will make some more good moves to improve the squad

  • Lawson saw the abuse BScott put on Lin last year, along with Kobe’s caustic persona. Who needs it.

  • ha! calling someone a bust after summer league speaks to how little you know about the NBA.

  • Rumors are the the Lakers want to have a 14 man roster heading into the season. If so one of: Upshaw, Jabari Brown, Black have to go.Those three guys have non-guaranteed contracts but we can only keep two of them.

    Clarkson also has a non-guaranteed contract but he obviously is not going anywhere.

  • Can they assign someone to the D-league? Like Sacre or Kelly? Or is it only the non-guaranteed players?

  • I think if Upshaw does show a determined self motivation to improve on his basketball shape then he would be the next one to be let go, if he shows up healthy then I think Ryan Kelley would be waived. The most expendable is Kelley.

  • Win a championship then 15 more before you could say you run Los Angeles LOL, GO BACK TO SAN DIEGO YOU LOSERS CHOKING DOG’S belong.

  • Not sure how that works, I know you can store draft picks on DLeague teams similar to storing them in europe etc. But I don’t think you can do that with non drafted players.

  • Cooda, wooda, shooda;; Lakas dident git it dun with Ty Lawson. Woodnt have worked out aniway. He ain bout to leern anythang from Byerun and Kome woodnt have pass da rock. Yall niggas feel me?

  • True, he hasn’t signed it yet from my understanding. So he might make things easy for them.

  • Sacre and Kelly are both drafted players, but since they have already played with the team I am not sure they are eligible. Hopefully they are. A year in the Dleague might be perfect for both of them.

  • Ned they won’t tank but lakers will not make the playoffs either, sixers will get a lottery pick from the lakers.

  • The Rockets got him for essentially nothing so I don’t see why they would ask so much from the Lakers.

  • yes he is guaranteed and by waiving him they are eating his veteran minimum contract

  • Yea you can do it with non drafted players by making them affiliate players like we did Jabari brown

  • Which is not ideal since it will cost them millions of dollars for nothing. But it is possible.

  • sorry man, I just don’t see Russell’s potential or upside for that matter. Randle looks like a scrub too.

  • Affiliate players are different than draft rights players though right? From my understanding Affiliate players can still sign NBA contracts since they only have a DLeague Affliitate contract.

    I am not sure on that though, the rules are weird. Last year there were only 6 players in the DLeague who were owned by NBA teams, but we didn’t have any according to the reports. We did have Roscoe and Jabari as affiliate players though.

  • well considering you don’t know much about basketball, i’d say that’s a great thing. and you didn’t answer my question — do clippers’ forums exist??

  • How many assists did #Russell have in 5 games of Summer League? And how many turnovers? You are delusional if u think it will all get better in the NBA.

  • Tell us about #Russell “potential” and “upside” lmao, the kid is a bust.

  • way to avoid the question again. once russell gets used to his teammates, he will thrive. do the clippers have a forum like the lakers do?

  • Yea they are weird and confusing but I think the team that brands them as affiliates can only sign them during that year they are in the d league

  • yes, summer league means everything. lol. why don’t you simply answer the question?

  • youre are probably the first one to bitch about not having a first round pick,stop whining

  • Yes. This is not a LAKERS page, by the way. This whole article is about a trade between Denver and Houston. It has NOTHING to do with the Lakers 🙂 Now tell us how many assists and turnovers #Russell had in 5 games of Summer League. The kid is a #bust

  • we don’t want to trade the ones we have ,lets keep them and build it RIGHT.dont rebuild with a DRUNKEN no account point guard

  • LOL. come on, bro. this is an act, right? you can’t really be this stupid. of course this is a lakers’ page. it’s on lakersnation. and if the clippers have forums like this, why don’t you go there? i’ll tell you why — because the lakers run this town and always will.

  • NBA teams own D Leagues to groom talent which they cannot hold on nba rosters, there are many teams that don’t own d league teams.

    The only real question is are they signed by their nba franchise or by affiliate d league franchise. if they are drafted and not signed by the nba franchise and no one picked him up then the d league franchise can sign him, in this case Jabari Brown was signed by the Defenders. If Kelley goes down to the d league to play a while, he is still counted as a roster spot because he is signed by nba contract and is subject to cba rules.

  • 1. GSW
    2. Clippers (great offseason)
    3. Spurs (due to resting of players)
    4. HOU (harden just getting better; Lawson if he gets his head straight)
    5. Thunder (Durant coming off injury)
    6. Grizzlies
    7. Pelicans
    8. Suns
    9. Jazz
    10. Lakers (close)
    11. Kings (close; my dark horse)
    12. Mavs (close)
    13. Twolves (close; young but talented)
    14. Blazers
    15. Nuggets

  • Pretty accurate. Only thing I say is that Memphis is top 4 and I put Houston 5th or 6th. Mempis(shout out to chris Broussard lol) added Matt Barnes and Brandon Wright. Their defense is incredible. They were 1 game away from being the #2 seed last year with all the injuries they had.

  • It’s a shame how quick you people were to give up on Russell. That’s one of the reasons why the Lakers won’t be able to get a decent free agent in the near future. People don’t want to play for a city where you are a king one day and dog meat the next.

  • na man lakers are interested in signing him..he just played in the finals bro

  • I just dont know if memphis has the perimeter scoring. Randolph is 34 now but will put up numbers. I just see my 1-5 teams with too much fire power.

  • dont listen to him. fake rumor. troll. he’ll reply by saying “just wait. guaranteed.”

  • I hear you that’s a concern for them. Idk I just don’t think this does wonders for HOU. They have Dwight so they’ll never win anything lol

  • 1. Spurs
    2. Warriors
    3. Clippers
    4. Rockets
    5. Thunder
    6. Grizzlies
    7. Pelicans
    8. Jazz

    1. Cavaliers
    2. Bulls
    3. Heat
    4. Wizards
    5. Bucks
    6. Hawks
    7. Pacers
    8. Raptors

  • its pretty funny actually because Mudiay went off in his first game and even dumb ass Ric Bucher called into question the selection of DLO after passing on Mud….and what happened after you ask, well he put up DLO number the rest of the way while DLO figured it out and kept at it and had a good final game…Guess my point is pretty much people love to critique early struggles like they mean anything but forget that its not how you start but how you finish and if that last game was any indication about his game then we got the best kid in the draft….

  • Lakers at number 10 would be great as it will show we are on the way back with young guns…. however, I can’t see us winning more that 25 games with the current roster. How do we get there??

  • Hou lost Josh Smith but kept Beverly. Also added Lawson, KJ Mcdaniels, Sam Dekker, and Montrezl Harrell. More than Solid Offseason.

  • Roy Hibbert | Tarik Black | Robert Upshaw
    Julius Randle | Brandon Bass | Larry Nance
    Kobe Bryant | Dorrell Wright | Anthony Brown
    Jordan Clarkson | Nick Young | Jabari Brown
    D’Angelo Russell | Lou Williams

  • Forget about the 2015-2016 season for a minute. My biggest concern is once Kobe and Hibbert are off the LA Lakers books and off the salary cap and what would be the minimum a team must spend under NBA rules? Because i think the Lakers will have a very hard time reaching the minimum required to spend especially if teams do not send over a hefty contract via trade. Also without any free agents being attracted to the Lakers i highly doubt a max free agent will sign, it’s a weak free agency class anyways. I think the Lakers will have one of the biggest tank jobs of all time once Kobe leaves and they actually keep their pick for 2017 NBA Draft. I wonder if anyone good is playing that will be in the 2017 Draft?

  • I think 10-13 seeds will be a tossup. I think our bench will put up points with (Young/Williams). If kobe stays healthy he will be pretty good on the offensive side. I think Clarkson will put up 16 points a game. If randle gets some rust off he will be good for 12 and 6 a game. Same with DLO he could average 13 and 7 assists. Hibbert/Black will hopefully provide Dfense.

  • Roy Hibbert – 13 pts 9 reb 1 ast
    Julius Randle – 15 pts 8 reb 3 ast
    Kobe Bryant – 22 pts 5 reb 4 ast
    Jordan Clarkson – 15 pts 4 reb 3 ast
    D’Angelo Russell – 14 pts 3 reb 6 ast

  • Harrell looked good this summer league (17 points and 8 rebounds a game). he might challenge terrence jones for some time. Dekker will see 10-15 minutes a game i think.

  • Realistic targets:
    Hibbert resigns
    DeMar ETO
    Jeff Green UFA

    Unrealistic target:

  • I say that all looks realistic. but id say subtract a couple points from randle and Russell. add a couple rebounds to russell.

  • Career average predictions:

    Julius Randle – 17.3 ppg 8.5 rpg 3.2 apg

    Jordan Clarkson – 18.9 ppg 4.4 rpg 4.1 apg

    D’Angelo Russell – 19.6 ppg 3.8 rpg 9.0 apg

  • Wow, the Rockets got Lawson for a bunch of no-name players. The rich get richer, and they really need a better PG than Beverley. Made no sense for us to go after him.. we have two bright, young PGs to develop.

  • He’s did a mediocre job. Our only defensive stopper is Roy Hibbert and…. no one else.

  • 2016-17 Averages when Kobe retires:

    Robert Upshaw – 7.6 ppg 8.9 rpg 1.1 apg
    Julius Randle – 16.8 ppg 7.7 rpg 3.5 apg
    Anthony Brown – 8.9 ppg 4.5 rpg 2.2 apg
    Jordan Clarkson – 20.1 ppg 4.7 rpg 4.5 apg
    D’Angelo Russell – 18.5 ppg 4.1 rpg 7.8 apg

  • Realistic for Upshaw if Hibbert is not around, otherwise your prediction is too low for him.

  • D’Angelo Russell First Four Years Stats

    2015-16: 14.6 ppg 4.4 rpg 6.9 apg
    2016-17: 18.5 ppg 4.1 rpg 7.8 apg
    2017-18: 21.9 ppg 5.0 rpg 8.5 apg
    2018-19: 20.8 ppg 4.7 rpg 10.4 apg

    Total: 19.0 ppg 4.6 rpg 8.4 apg

  • tbh, i’d rather have the Spurs win than anybody else. classy organization with a great coach and players. oh, scouts too.

  • I am a little confused about something fellas, help me out with this if you can. I watched Robert Upshaw play in college at Fresno and at Washington and i always thought he played great and was a beast of a center and a great defender. I watched him play with the Lakers Summer League team and he seemed like a totally different player out there, he was way more passive and less aggressive on defense and did almost nothing on offense, he barely played in most the games, i am seeing a pattern develop here also with Julius Randle and D’Angelo Russell as they looked nothing like the way they did in college they looked much worse playing for the Lakers Summer League team. Could it be the Lakers system and coaching that ruined them in the Summer League? What could it be that would hinder 3 such talented players that coaches would dream of having the luxury of coaching such talented players. They didn’t look right and under performed.

  • 95% of today’s Clipper fans are either LA transplants that arrived within the last 5 years or former fairweather Laker fans who don’t watch or follow the NBA until May…

  • I am glad they did not give up Clarkson. Lawson is a decent player, but letting Clarkson and Russell get significant minutes this season is the best course of action.

  • We need a small forward badly so Ty Lawson really doesn’t mean much to us. I am hoping Mitch Kupchak can sign Glen Robinson iii he is a unrestricted free agent since Philly declined his qualifying offer. He has shown to be impressive in Vegas.

  • I agree with you @Tyrone actually Glen Robinson would be good for the Lakers. The Lakers could get a great pickup.

  • The most interesting stats you left out Upshaw’s blocks, Anthony Brown’s steals, Russell’s steals/blocks (since he proved he can defend in summer league).

  • I agree with KD, but our realistic targets won’t push us over the top. We should just let the young talent develop.

  • we haven’t even tanked last year we sucked, WHAT!!?? next years draft is already better than this years

  • Shut up ! Lakers are always in Bid for someone an it never happens .. Nobody cares

  • LOL. well for one, it’s on lakersnation. why don’t you try a clippers site? or are you a laker fan in disguise? either way, you’re always here, bro.. and that proves my point.

  • The Lakers would be foolish to trade away Clarkson for this guy or any other veteran. But, I think it was also stupid to try an get Lawson. Clarkson and Russell need a lot of playing time and bringing Lawson in would have cut into that. I don’t know what the Lakers are trying to accomplish with all of these unnecessary acquisitions they have attempted since the draft. They have a nice young group. They should just go with it and try to develop what they have. They have never had the patience to do that, always wanting to”buy now” and pay for it later. Enough of that B.S.!

  • I’m with you on that. Why not the Spurs? Why hate them just because you would like the Lakers to act smart like them?

  • Lakas aint doin it right. You got Byerun as koach but as many yeers da nigga been in da NBA he reelly hadnot won a thang. It was all Jason Kidd in New Jersee. Now in da summa leegue they got a nigga like Madson koaching. He cant even katch no rithum dancin, how da boy gonna koach NBA level ball? Byerun too busee mackin women durin da offseazon to git involved. Yeah da nigga deeere watchin but his head aint into da name in my apinyun. Look at Derek Fisher he know he a rookee and he no he had a bad seazon. He didnent blame his playas like Byerun did but enstead he willin to work koachin da summa leeege. If you axe me da Lakas doo fou