Lakers News: L.A. Waives Robert Upshaw, Michael Frazier II
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Stephen R. Sylvanie-USA TODAY Sports

The Los Angeles Lakers need to cut down their roster to a maximum of 15 players before the start of the 2015-16 NBA season on Oct. 28.

The team brought in a total of 19 players to training camp with four or more these players to be let go in the coming weeks.

According to Bill Oram of the Orange County Register, the team has begun cutting down their roster with Robert Upshaw and Michael Frazier II being among the cuts made by Los Angeles.

Undoubtedly the big surprise here is Upshaw being waived as some believed he would battle Robert Sacre possibly for the final spot on the team. Despite his immense potential, however, he showed very few flashes in the preseason, though he was in noticeably better shape than his time in summer league.

Frazier was always more of a long shot to make the roster as there are many players on the roster who do the same thing as he does. Jordan Clarkson, D’Angelo Russell, and Lou Williams, in particular, are very similar players to Frazier making it tough for him to crack the roster.

These cuts drop the Lakers roster down to 17 players, so two more must still be released before the season opener on Oct. 28 against the Minnesota Timberwolves. In all likelihood, it is Jabari Brown, Metta World Peace, and Johnathan Holmes, who was injured in Monday’s game, on the bubble.

Wanted to keep Upshaw.

  • NOOOO! I only saw “Team Waives Robert…” and I thought it was Sacre. I’m so disappointed, and I wanted to keep Upshaw, too. 🙁

  • NOOOO! I only saw “Team Waives Robert…” and I thought it was Sacre. I’m so disappointed, and I wanted to keep Upshaw, too. 🙁

  • Sacre can be cut too. Byron emphasized on Bass as a Center option in a small ball line-up.

  • He should be out of the TEAM, not just the rotation. He’s a waste of a spot.

  • Sacre can be cut too. Byron emphasized on Bass as a Center option in a small ball line-up.

  • He should be out of the TEAM, not just the rotation. He’s a waste of a spot.

  • Yup. I feel sorry for Holmes because of his injury but I feel like he wouldn’t have made the team anyways.

  • Yup. I feel sorry for Holmes because of his injury but I feel like he wouldn’t have made the team anyways.

  • I would have kept both of them actually. Frazier’s defensive grit was valuable. I hope we’ll keep them in our sight within the D-fenders.

  • Jim Buss ‘the Lakers have turned the corner’. Nope just doing the same stupid crap. Obviously they believe that Robert Sacre has more future potential than Upshaw. Watch Upshaw get snapped up and go on to become like Whiteside for another team. Meanwhile Sacre will end up with serious minutes again after Roy Hibbert catches the Lakers injury bug.

  • I would have kept both of them actually. Frazier’s defensive grit was valuable. I hope we’ll keep them in our sight within the D-fenders.

  • Jim Buss ‘the Lakers have turned the corner’. Nope just doing the same stupid crap. Obviously they believe that Robert Sacre has more future potential than Upshaw. Watch Upshaw get snapped up and go on to become like Whiteside for another team. Meanwhile Sacre will end up with serious minutes again after Roy Hibbert catches the Lakers injury bug.

  • Hibb and Black not going to cut it.. Sacre has not been cutting it.. true Upshaw was raw, but compare to sacre he def earn hiss spot

  • Hibb and Black not going to cut it.. Sacre has not been cutting it.. true Upshaw was raw, but compare to sacre he def earn hiss spot

  • When I read that they are waving Robert Upshaw, I was disspointed. He was on of the my favorite and have potential. I think he wants to prove himself to be part of lakers by losing 20 pounds. Really disppointed and one of terrible mistake.

  • I know no one (especially on Twitter) will understand waiving Upshaw and attack and bash the FO and coaching staff… but I have to go with them on this one.

    I called it too. Problem is Upshaw showed small glimpses of his potential, but he struggled MIGHTILY on defense which was supposed to be his calling card. He showed some offense which is great, but Sacre has offense too. Neither great at it. Truth is, Upshaw was late A LOT on help situations and didn’t protect the paint as advertised. He also struggled with fundamentals such as boxing out his man. He’s a raw project and people need to realize that we’re already developing 4-5 players this season who are all battling for PT. Upshaw was going to sit on the bench regardless. Maybe make an appearance in the D-League.

    Black in limited snaps has proven to be the best backup center we have who is relentless with his energy. Dude earned it. Plus he was the safest option. Rotation isn’t set, so I’d imagine the whole “Sacre is the 3rd center” is speculation. Sacre is also a great locker room player and is loved there (which is all that matters, not how we feel). Eric Pincus (a very reliable Laker reporter) also made some interesting tweets last night about Upshaw vs Sacre, in regards to character.

    I would’ve liked Upshaw, but I didn’t see enough to warrant cutting a known commodity (however useless that commodity still is). I’m with the FO on this one.

  • I don’t understand this move. Maybe he had some issues. Maybe he had bad rotations in the game. But dropping someone with raw potential that could be work on. Not a good move.

  • When I read that they are waving Robert Upshaw, I was disspointed. He was on of the my favorite and have potential. I think he wants to prove himself to be part of lakers by losing 20 pounds. Really disppointed and one of terrible mistake.

  • I know no one (especially on Twitter) will understand waiving Upshaw and attack and bash the FO and coaching staff… but I have to go with them on this one.

    I called it too. Problem is Upshaw showed small glimpses of his potential, but he struggled MIGHTILY on defense which was supposed to be his calling card. He showed some offense which is great, but Sacre has offense too. Neither great at it. Truth is, Upshaw was late A LOT on help situations and didn’t protect the paint as advertised. He also struggled with fundamentals such as boxing out his man. He’s a raw project and people need to realize that we’re already developing 4-5 players this season who are all battling for PT. Upshaw was going to sit on the bench regardless. Maybe make an appearance in the D-League.

    Black in limited snaps has proven to be the best backup center we have who is relentless with his energy. Dude earned it. Plus he was the safest option. Rotation isn’t set, so I’d imagine the whole “Sacre is the 3rd center” is speculation. Sacre is also a great locker room player and is loved there (which is all that matters, not how we feel). Eric Pincus (a very reliable Laker reporter) also made some interesting tweets last night about Upshaw vs Sacre, in regards to character.

    I would’ve liked Upshaw, but I didn’t see enough to warrant cutting a known commodity (however useless that commodity still is). I’m with the FO on this one.

  • I don’t understand this move. Maybe he had some issues. Maybe he had bad rotations in the game. But dropping someone with raw potential that could be work on. Not a good move.

  • Not so fast minutes, that be should not waive upshaw but probably d-league assign. And sacre is a garbage about 1.0 ppg 0.1 agg blk 0.1 last game 2 in preseason.

  • I know Upshaw didn’t impress in preseason but I rather him than Sacre. Just imagine Hibbert gets hurt & we will be stuck with just Robert Sacre.

  • Simply do not understand the FO’s love affair with Sacre. There is zero reason he should be on this roster ahead of Upshaw.

    Horrible decision.

    Whiteside, part II

  • Bass is an overall better defender than Black. Tougher too, more experienced. Don’t worry, Black is going to play anyway.

  • Not so fast minutes, that be should not waive upshaw but probably d-league assign. And sacre is a garbage about 1.0 ppg 0.1 agg blk 0.1 last game 2 in preseason.

  • I know Upshaw didn’t impress in preseason but I rather him than Sacre. Just imagine Hibbert gets hurt & we will be stuck with just Robert Sacre.

  • Simply do not understand the FO’s love affair with Sacre. There is zero reason he should be on this roster ahead of Upshaw.

    Horrible decision.

    Whiteside, part II

  • Bass is an overall better defender than Black. Tougher too, more experienced. Don’t worry, Black is going to play anyway.

  • Lol. People are really buying into the whole “Whiteside” fiasco. You realize he was in the league for years right? Before landing with the Heat? That circumstance is rare (also considering the Heat had no real starting center), and Whiteside is still no sure thing. He’s got talent, but like Upshaw, he’s got character issues.

  • We know what we getting out of Sacre though…which is not enough and bad decision he will not get any better.

  • Lol. People are really buying into the whole “Whiteside” fiasco. You realize he was in the league for years right? Before landing with the Heat? That circumstance is rare (also considering the Heat had no real starting center), and Whiteside is still no sure thing. He’s got talent, but like Upshaw, he’s got character issues.

  • We know what we getting out of Sacre though…which is not enough and bad decision he will not get any better.

  • I hope we find a better option, but a proven one and not a guy who has potential but can’t help right now. This move shows we’re in it to win for sure this season.

  • I hope we find a better option, but a proven one and not a guy who has potential but can’t help right now. This move shows we’re in it to win for sure this season.

  • Bad news: We let Upshaw go
    Good news: We can cut Sacre & Holmes and keep BOTH Jabari Brown and MWP, which is really nice IMO.

  • Bad news: We let Upshaw go
    Good news: We can cut Sacre & Holmes and keep BOTH Jabari Brown and MWP, which is really nice IMO.

  • No der he won’t get better. But I didn’t see any indication Upshaw will either at this moment. We need guys we know can at least play the game right. If we chose Upshaw over Sacre, that’s an indicator that we are developing talent this year and not trying to win games. Believe it or not, but this move shows they want guys who can help now.

  • No der he won’t get better. But I didn’t see any indication Upshaw will either at this moment. We need guys we know can at least play the game right. If we chose Upshaw over Sacre, that’s an indicator that we are developing talent this year and not trying to win games. Believe it or not, but this move shows they want guys who can help now.

  • Sacre would be the 4th option. Black, Bass would grab all of the remaining minutes at the C spot.
    You watched the game the way we all did. You certainly have noticed all the rookie mistakes and the lack of lateral quickness. Upshaw must sag off to defend the PnR, and that’s not the best way you would like your center to contain the current guards.
    It’s not a big deal. I am disappointed but his gig with us may not be over.

  • Sacre would be the 4th option. Black, Bass would grab all of the remaining minutes at the C spot.
    You watched the game the way we all did. You certainly have noticed all the rookie mistakes and the lack of lateral quickness. Upshaw must sag off to defend the PnR, and that’s not the best way you would like your center to contain the current guards.
    It’s not a big deal. I am disappointed but his gig with us may not be over.

  • Somebody in that FO likes Sacre……No way I would have signed Sacre before Ed Davis…..This could turn into Another bad Decision….Some team may pick him up (Upshaw).

  • Me too man…. me too. But they had to do it. But hey, there’s a chance he can end of with out D-League team.

  • Somebody in that FO likes Sacre……No way I would have signed Sacre before Ed Davis…..This could turn into Another bad Decision….Some team may pick him up (Upshaw).

  • Me too man…. me too. But they had to do it. But hey, there’s a chance he can end of with out D-League team.

  • Yup and some other team picks up Upshaw, coaches him up, and becomes a serviceable big who gives a solid 20mins night in night out, while Sacre does the only hung he’s good for: leading the cheers from the bench whenever a teammate hits a shot (never mind if they are in the middle of getting their tails blown out)

  • Yup and some other team picks up Upshaw, coaches him up, and becomes a serviceable big who gives a solid 20mins night in night out, while Sacre does the only hung he’s good for: leading the cheers from the bench whenever a teammate hits a shot (never mind if they are in the middle of getting their tails blown out)

  • Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams/ABrown
    Kobe/Young/MWP
    Randle/Bass/Kelly/Nance
    Hibbert/Black/Sacre

    Let the season begin!

  • They’ll regret it just like they regret letting Hassan Whiteside go. I am so sick of this coaching staff and front office. Make Ryan West the GM.

    Anyway @ J Taylor I guess Tarik Black stays because there is no way sacre is the #2 center off the bench. Tarik did great yesterday too.

  • Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams/ABrown
    Kobe/Young/MWP
    Randle/Bass/Kelly/Nance
    Hibbert/Black/Sacre

    Let the season begin!

  • They’ll regret it just like they regret letting Hassan Whiteside go. I am so sick of this coaching staff and front office. Make Ryan West the GM.

    Anyway @ J Taylor I guess Tarik Black stays because there is no way sacre is the #2 center off the bench. Tarik did great yesterday too.

  • The ONLY way I wont be pissed about this, is if we sign Larry Sanders and waive Sacre anyway lol

  • The ONLY way I wont be pissed about this, is if we sign Larry Sanders and waive Sacre anyway lol

  • They’d rather let Upshaw go because he needs some work but keep sacre who will never get better. Watch in a few years when Upshaw is a beast and has a vendetta against us like Whiteside.

  • so instead of trying to develop for the future they would rather stick with the past(Sacre).. i get Upshaw is raw.. have to develop but with our BIgs.. Hibb, Black, Upshaw and Sacre.. its a no brainer to get rid of Sacre .. i dont get it

  • They’d rather let Upshaw go because he needs some work but keep sacre who will never get better. Watch in a few years when Upshaw is a beast and has a vendetta against us like Whiteside.

  • so instead of trying to develop for the future they would rather stick with the past(Sacre).. i get Upshaw is raw.. have to develop but with our BIgs.. Hibb, Black, Upshaw and Sacre.. its a no brainer to get rid of Sacre .. i dont get it

  • Someone please tell me why Ryan Kelly and sacre are still on the team after doing nothing for 3 years?

  • kelly deserve to stay.. Sacre i can’t tell you .. i have no clue why he’s still here..

  • Someone please tell me why Ryan Kelly and sacre are still on the team after doing nothing for 3 years?

  • kelly deserve to stay.. Sacre i can’t tell you .. i have no clue why he’s still here..

  • I didn’t know the Lakers had Whiteside once upon a time…..Seems like they have let another one get away…..Whiteside,Okafor and now Upshaw.

  • Because Sacre doesn’t have character issues and by that they mean he doesn’t smoke weed…yet that wasn’t an issue when Jordan Hill was here.

  • I didn’t know the Lakers had Whiteside once upon a time…..Seems like they have let another one get away…..Whiteside,Okafor and now Upshaw.

  • Because Sacre doesn’t have character issues and by that they mean he doesn’t smoke weed…yet that wasn’t an issue when Jordan Hill was here.

  • Aldridge on Kobe during free agency pitch meeting

    LA: I’m not going to get into details, but it was just a couple of meetings. The first meeting didn’t go as well as they said and then the second meeting went better. I’ll go on the record as saying Kobe was not an issue at all. He was a very positive part of the meeting. I’ve always had a very cordial relationship with Kobe. I see him all the time in Newport [Beach], and it was really messed up that [the media] put it on him when he was one of the best parts of the meeting. But like I said, the first one didn’t go as well, the second one went a little bit, but at the end of the day going back home was more valuable.

  • sacre is waaaaayy better than upshaw…..giving high fives!! it’s all about high fives for 3rd string center

  • I really hope his gig with us is not over. He has serious potential. I don’t know If I can keep Supporting this team with all the bad decisions coming from leadership. It is little wonder the Lakers are the WORSE they have EVER been.

  • Aldridge on Kobe during free agency pitch meeting

    LA: I’m not going to get into details, but it was just a couple of meetings. The first meeting didn’t go as well as they said and then the second meeting went better. I’ll go on the record as saying Kobe was not an issue at all. He was a very positive part of the meeting. I’ve always had a very cordial relationship with Kobe. I see him all the time in Newport [Beach], and it was really messed up that [the media] put it on him when he was one of the best parts of the meeting. But like I said, the first one didn’t go as well, the second one went a little bit, but at the end of the day going back home was more valuable.

  • sacre is waaaaayy better than upshaw…..giving high fives!! it’s all about high fives for 3rd string center

  • I really hope his gig with us is not over. He has serious potential. I don’t know If I can keep Supporting this team with all the bad decisions coming from leadership. It is little wonder the Lakers are the WORSE they have EVER been.

  • Next to cut is holmes and then either r.kelly or brown? as much as i would like to see sacre go i think lakers are over loaded on two positions, the power forward and guard position. Sacre is there for insurance just case hibbert misses a few games due to soreness or something we need a back up for black. To me its either r. kelly or brown. Lakers need metta he changes the whole teams defense intensity which is huge. Kelly or brown who would you guys cut?

  • As I have previously stated it is highly unlikely both Kelly and Sacre would be waived and it still remains difficult for them to even cut Sacre due to his option being picked up just over this past summer.

    Right now it is between MWP and Sacre and due to the fact that we have only one true center in Hibbert and one undersized center in Black; it not likely they choose Metta over Sacre.

  • Next to cut is holmes and then either r.kelly or brown? as much as i would like to see sacre go i think lakers are over loaded on two positions, the power forward and guard position. Sacre is there for insurance just case hibbert misses a few games due to soreness or something we need a back up for black. To me its either r. kelly or brown. Lakers need metta he changes the whole teams defense intensity which is huge. Kelly or brown who would you guys cut?

  • As I have previously stated it is highly unlikely both Kelly and Sacre would be waived and it still remains difficult for them to even cut Sacre due to his option being picked up just over this past summer.

    Right now it is between MWP and Sacre and due to the fact that we have only one true center in Hibbert and one undersized center in Black; it not likely they choose Metta over Sacre.

  • This is overreacting on waiving a third string center ! So far we did a pretty good draft and free agency.

  • Kelly is staying. He is making 1.7mil. Battle between MWP and Jabari. I think Jabari gets cut

  • This is overreacting on waiving a third string center ! So far we did a pretty good draft and free agency.

  • Kelly is staying. He is making 1.7mil. Battle between MWP and Jabari. I think Jabari gets cut

  • There’s no way we’re winning games with a 15-man rotation. Makes no difference if Sacre is sitting on the bench or Upshaw. The choice has been made, we just better not see Sacre on the court unless we’re winning/losing by 40.

  • There’s no way we’re winning games with a 15-man rotation. Makes no difference if Sacre is sitting on the bench or Upshaw. The choice has been made, we just better not see Sacre on the court unless we’re winning/losing by 40.

  • I think MWP will get cut and brought on the bench as a coach…why cut any young players? Who knows, they may turn out to be decent and can be used for trades down the line.

  • Ok I get that, but he sucks yeah he played OK with a real pg like huertas but he’s garbage he fouls all the time..and Kelly can’t shoot and isninjury prone..the only good thing about him is his height!

  • I think MWP will get cut and brought on the bench as a coach…why cut any young players? Who knows, they may turn out to be decent and can be used for trades down the line.

  • Ok I get that, but he sucks yeah he played OK with a real pg like huertas but he’s garbage he fouls all the time..and Kelly can’t shoot and isninjury prone..the only good thing about him is his height!

  • HUERTAS is the only LOCK to make the team. Looks like KELLY is not going anywhere. I think Black and Brown have a good chance to make the team because they were both very useful and benificial to have last year therefore they are proven assets.

    HUERTAS – who knew this guys was a magician. He makes incredible passes, he has a soft shot, he looks comfortable on the floor, pushes the ball well, makes cross court passes, makes other players better.

    BLACK is a tank. He has a lot of upper body strength, is a great rebounder, a hussle energy guy. Protects the ball and can score inside the paint. Works well true point guards, we now have 2. He just need to be a little more fierce.

    J. BROWN is a player he has a great 3 point shot, get make the mid j, is great at attacking the basket, can make shots after contact, is an excellent free throw shooter. If you need scoring he is a guy you can turn to.

    M.W.PEACE – brings veteran leadership, makes the locker room light, can teach the kids a thing or two, though defense, an enforcer.

    UPSHAW – Do we roll the dice on his potential ? He brings monster shot blocking ability, good rebounder but he still has a lot of work to do. As we saw tonight.

    I think HOLMES and FRAZIER will be cut or sent to D-league.

    ……………………………………….

    Well it looks like HOLMES must have had a Power Up Extra Life because he is still alive.

    FRAZIER and UPSHAW were the ones who were first cut. Jabari Brown just offered more than Frazier so IF we decide to keep a 3rd SG Jabari will be the guy because he has a more rounded game. Upshaw is just to raw, he was slow and couldn’t keep up with guys. He is lacking mobility. It didn’t help missing a gimme dunk last night. Right now, Sacre has shown more consistency and is a more reliable player.

  • HUERTAS is the only LOCK to make the team. Looks like KELLY is not going anywhere. I think Black and Brown have a good chance to make the team because they were both very useful and benificial to have last year therefore they are proven assets.

    HUERTAS – who knew this guys was a magician. He makes incredible passes, he has a soft shot, he looks comfortable on the floor, pushes the ball well, makes cross court passes, makes other players better.

    BLACK is a tank. He has a lot of upper body strength, is a great rebounder, a hussle energy guy. Protects the ball and can score inside the paint. Works well true point guards, we now have 2. He just need to be a little more fierce.

    J. BROWN is a player he has a great 3 point shot, get make the mid j, is great at attacking the basket, can make shots after contact, is an excellent free throw shooter. If you need scoring he is a guy you can turn to.

    M.W.PEACE – brings veteran leadership, makes the locker room light, can teach the kids a thing or two, though defense, an enforcer.

    UPSHAW – Do we roll the dice on his potential ? He brings monster shot blocking ability, good rebounder but he still has a lot of work to do. As we saw tonight.

    I think HOLMES and FRAZIER will be cut or sent to D-league.

    ……………………………………….

    Well it looks like HOLMES must have had a Power Up Extra Life because he is still alive.

    FRAZIER and UPSHAW were the ones who were first cut. Jabari Brown just offered more than Frazier so IF we decide to keep a 3rd SG Jabari will be the guy because he has a more rounded game. Upshaw is just to raw, he was slow and couldn’t keep up with guys. He is lacking mobility there partial weak defender unless he was already in position. He struggled offensively. It didn’t help missing a gimme dunk last night. Right now, Sacre has shown more consistency and is a more reliable player.

  • Jabari is just isn’t needed and he doesn’t provide anything else besides scoring

  • Relax People. More cuts and future trades are on the way. Any players outside our top ten can go.
    1. J. Randle
    2. Clarkson
    3. Kobe
    4. Hibbert
    5. Russell
    6. L. Williams
    7. B. Bass
    8. Huertas
    9. Black
    10. Nance Jr.
    Everyone else can get waived or traded for a proven players that will actually be a starter of crack the rotation.

  • Why TF yall waive Upshaw yall could’ve got rid of Sacre or Black now your bench has no rim protection

  • I’m with you, I stuck with them through these past two seasons but if Upshaw doesnt end up on the Defenders I am out. Way too much value to just throw away.

  • Jabari is just isn’t needed and he doesn’t provide anything else besides scoring

  • Relax People. More cuts and future trades are on the way. Any players outside our top ten can go.
    1. J. Randle
    2. Clarkson
    3. Kobe
    4. Hibbert
    5. Russell
    6. L. Williams
    7. B. Bass
    8. Huertas
    9. Black
    10. Nance Jr.
    Everyone else can get waived or traded for a proven players that will actually be a starter of crack the rotation.

  • Why TF yall waive Upshaw yall could’ve got rid of Sacre or Black now your bench has no rim protection

  • I’m with you, I stuck with them through these past two seasons but if Upshaw doesnt end up on the Defenders I am out. Way too much value to just throw away.

  • is this a joke???? sacre over upshaw??? in a season where development matter 10x more than winning????

  • Jabari can be called up with that remaining 15th roster open. He would know Scott’s system and is a valuable d league personnel.

  • is this a joke???? sacre over upshaw??? in a season where development matter 10x more than winning????

  • Jabari can be called up with that remaining 15th roster open. He would know Scott’s system and is a valuable d league personnel.

  • In a league of 3 point shooting teams, rim protection isn’t as valuable as guys that can switch.

  • In a league of 3 point shooting teams, rim protection isn’t as valuable as guys that can switch.

  • honestly Bass should have never been picked up .. with JR, Black, Draft of Larry and Kelly looking like his rookie self, i dont get all the PFs thats needed..

  • honestly Bass should have never been picked up .. with JR, Black, Draft of Larry and Kelly looking like his rookie self, i dont get all the PFs thats needed..

  • same here, unless they still cut Sacre then i guess i can understand.. but Sacre should of been the first..

  • same here, unless they still cut Sacre then i guess i can understand.. but Sacre should of been the first..

  • A 48-116 record over the last two seasons is not overreacting. A lot of bad decisions have been made. Upshaw has so much potential. It’s the conglomeration of all these decisions that lead to my frustration with this team. This is not the same team I’ve loved since 1995. This latest bad decision just sent me over the edge. With apologies to Chick Hearn I have to say at this moment I am not a Lakers fan. I hope the front office gets their stuff together.

  • A 48-116 record over the last two seasons is not overreacting. A lot of bad decisions have been made. Upshaw has so much potential. It’s the conglomeration of all these decisions that lead to my frustration with this team. This is not the same team I’ve loved since 1995. This latest bad decision just sent me over the edge. With apologies to Chick Hearn I have to say at this moment I am not a Lakers fan. I hope the front office gets their stuff together.

  • well dont tell me, tell B Scott, cus he thinks Bass can play Center and has said, Bass will see more time there.. I dont mind Black being our center if we go the small ball way, but Bass will never be a center and you telling me like Sacre has been productive.. when hes on the court we still have no center so why keep him on the roster?

  • well dont tell me, tell B Scott, cus he thinks Bass can play Center and has said, Bass will see more time there.. I dont mind Black being our center if we go the small ball way, but Bass will never be a center and you telling me like Sacre has been productive.. when hes on the court we still have no center so why keep him on the roster?

  • I do think Black and Bass will get most of the backup center minutes, but I think they want to keep at least one true backup center in case of injury etc.

    Plus as silly as it sounds, Sacre is a great chemistry guy.

  • I do think Black and Bass will get most of the backup center minutes, but I think they want to keep at least one true backup center in case of injury etc.

    Plus as silly as it sounds, Sacre is a great chemistry guy.

  • Russell. Huertas.
    Clarkson.williams. Jabari brown.
    Kobe.young.brown
    Randel..kelly.nance
    Hilbert .black.bass

  • Russell. Huertas.
    Clarkson.williams. Jabari brown.
    Kobe.young.brown
    Randel..kelly.nance
    Hilbert .black.bass

  • There ***MUST*** be a damn good reason for taking Sacre over Upshaw. My guess is that the FO will want Sacre to get some minutes to package him away for a trade. I don’t understand why Jabari Brown, is not a permanent Laker yet. This guy is instant offense and seems his shot selections go with the flow of the offense. He is definitely not a volume shooter like Young or Lou Williams. Again, I can only guess these two guys are being stashed away to protect their trade value, against a potential trade package.

    I think signing Lou Williams was a mistake, that we can hopefully remedy via a trade for a future draft pick. Although I like Nick Young and his 5 mill long term contract, he is going to be a valuable asset for a future draft pick too. Clearing up cap space for next year is going to be high on the Lakers agenda, now that Jordan Clarkson is proving to be starter with impact. I would like to see Jordan Clarkson go to 76ers for all our draft picks back, plus Joel Embiid, or draft rights to Dario Saric.

  • There ***MUST*** be a damn good reason for taking Sacre over Upshaw. My guess is that the FO will want Sacre to get some minutes to package him away for a trade. I don’t understand why Jabari Brown, is not a permanent Laker yet. This guy is instant offense and seems his shot selections go with the flow of the offense. He is definitely not a volume shooter like Young or Lou Williams. Again, I can only guess these two guys are being stashed away to protect their trade value, against a potential trade package.

    I think signing Lou Williams was a mistake, that we can hopefully remedy via a trade for a future draft pick. Although I like Nick Young and his 5 mill long term contract, he is going to be a valuable asset for a future draft pick too. Clearing up cap space for next year is going to be high on the Lakers agenda, now that Jordan Clarkson is proving to be starter with impact. I would like to see Jordan Clarkson go to 76ers for all our draft picks back, plus Joel Embiid, or draft rights to Dario Saric.

  • and that’s my point Incen, why keep Sacre? The little flashes Upshaw have shown has been more then Sacre whole Professional career. Hes a waste on the roster. He has not protected the rim, let alone hit a mid range shot like Upshaw. Upshaw is raw and i would never argue him being waived if the Lakers had a legit back up center.. Sacre is not it.. after Hibb, the only one we have is Black. I like Black. but at 6 9 he will not protect our rim.. He can score with the best of them, but will not protect our rim.. i think that’s why we Fans are lost with this cut.. idk

  • and that’s my point Incen, why keep Sacre? The little flashes Upshaw have shown has been more then Sacre whole Professional career. Hes a waste on the roster. He has not protected the rim, let alone hit a mid range shot like Upshaw. Upshaw is raw and i would never argue him being waived if the Lakers had a legit back up center.. Sacre is not it.. after Hibb, the only one we have is Black. I like Black. but at 6 9 he will not protect our rim.. He can score with the best of them, but will not protect our rim.. i think that’s why we Fans are lost with this cut.. idk

  • But he won’t play ! You bound your love with keeping/cutting a 3rd string center ? What kind of fan are you ?

  • And ya all got him on your wanna be GM lineup already well reality kicks in 😀

  • Between Jabari, Metta and Holmes you have to take Metta. He has given the team so much energy when he is on the floor. It is contagious. No stats show that.

  • But he won’t play ! You bound your love with keeping/cutting a 3rd string center ? What kind of fan are you ?

  • And ya all got him on your wanna be GM lineup already well reality kicks in 😀

  • Between Jabari, Metta and Holmes you have to take Metta. He has given the team so much energy when he is on the floor. It is contagious. No stats show that.

  • I think they want the second unit to play a very fast tempo, small ball. And it does suit Huertas, Young, Lou, Kelly, Black, Bass extremely well. Neither Sacre or Upshaw would get minutes but it would have cost the Lakers over a million dollars to cut Sacre. Probably just came down to that.

  • I think they want the second unit to play a very fast tempo, small ball. And it does suit Huertas, Young, Lou, Kelly, Black, Bass extremely well. Neither Sacre or Upshaw would get minutes but it would have cost the Lakers over a million dollars to cut Sacre. Probably just came down to that.

  • So the injury is why he can’t shoot..too slow to guard sf..not strong enough to guard pf he’s useless!

  • At the end of the day those people who cut him are the ones who actually knows what’s up,who knows what really goes on at the team than the wanna be gm in here who thinks you know better, fact

  • upshaw would have been a lottery pick if he didnt have the off-court issue earlier and heart issue. both of those seems fixed and cleared. why did we keep a cheerleader as opposed to a serious talent thats younger and cheaper??

  • So the injury is why he can’t shoot..too slow to guard sf..not strong enough to guard pf he’s useless!

  • At the end of the day those people who cut him are the ones who actually knows what’s up,who knows what really goes on at the team than the wanna be gm in here who thinks you know better, fact

  • upshaw would have been a lottery pick if he didnt have the off-court issue earlier and heart issue. both of those seems fixed and cleared. why did we keep a cheerleader as opposed to a serious talent thats younger and cheaper??

  • You guys are acting like we waived a rookie shaq lmao. Upshaw really didn’t prove he deserves a roster spot and that’s the bottom line. His spot was never guaranteed just because he had potential.

  • You guys are acting like we waived a rookie shaq lmao. Upshaw really didn’t prove he deserves a roster spot and that’s the bottom line. His spot was never guaranteed just because he had potential.

  • U guys are all laughable… Jokers. While I was hoping Upshaw will be a gem, he didn’t show anything with potential worth. Slow, can’t set screen, doesn’t recognize play, not physical, just plain awkward and didn’t pass the eye test. If u all ball, u know what I mean. Just too damn passive and get push around.

  • U guys are all laughable… Jokers. While I was hoping Upshaw will be a gem, he didn’t show anything with potential worth. Slow, can’t set screen, doesn’t recognize play, not physical, just plain awkward and didn’t pass the eye test. If u all ball, u know what I mean. Just too damn passive and get push around.

  • Sacre works extremely hard and is a great guy. So both being equally bad, I guess you take Sacre haha.

  • Sacre works extremely hard and is a great guy. So both being equally bad, I guess you take Sacre haha.

  • Help me out here, guys. I don’t really understand all the contract stuff. I read somewhere that Sacre had a guaranteed contract, so they couldn’t just waive him, but one center had to go, so that’s why they let go Upshaw. Possible? And do they still have like “Early Bird” rights to sign him for the D-League?

  • Oh well. I thought Upshaw had potential, but nothing we can do about it. Holmes and Jabari should be next to get cut.

  • I was right in my previous post… Eric Pincus tweeted yesterday that there might be issues brewing with Upshaw again. Turns out he was right as he tweeted today that even though there was nothing serious, they were scared off by his issues again outside his talent.

    Lakers made the right choice. Unnecessary risk in a locker room with already young players.

  • Help me out here, guys. I don’t really understand all the contract stuff. I read somewhere that Sacre had a guaranteed contract, so they couldn’t just waive him, but one center had to go, so that’s why they let go Upshaw. Possible? And do they still have like “Early Bird” rights to sign him for the D-League?

  • Oh well. I thought Upshaw had potential, but nothing we can do about it. Holmes and Jabari should be next to get cut.

  • I was right in my previous post… Eric Pincus tweeted yesterday that there might be issues brewing with Upshaw again. Turns out he was right as he tweeted today that even though there was nothing serious, they were scared off by his issues again outside his talent.

    Lakers made the right choice. Unnecessary risk in a locker room with already young players.

  • Only if they had drafted him. Since he was undrafted any team can sign Upshaw. They can cut Sacre but they would have to pay him his entire guaranteed contract to buy him out.

  • Only if they had drafted him. Since he was undrafted any team can sign Upshaw. They can cut Sacre but they would have to pay him his entire guaranteed contract to buy him out.

  • I don’t think the Lakers are keeping Sacre. Ryan Kelly is playing great basketball right now and for the first time, he’s finally healthy. I see the FO either attempting to trade Sacre or buying out his minimum wage contract. We can always sign another undrafted player that gets cut before the start of the season like how we got Tarik Black last year.

  • I say keep Jabari. 4 of our guards have already had injuries & missed games in the preseason- Huertas, Russell, Williams & Kobe (if you still call him a SG). He can score & can sub for Williams or Young off the bench if they’re shot ain’t falling.

  • that’s wrong. Upshaw has not shown any promise. Matter of fact, he look like he does not know what to do. Sacre been in the league for years and knows what he needs to do unlike upshaw

  • I don’t think the Lakers are keeping Sacre. Ryan Kelly is playing great basketball right now and for the first time, he’s finally healthy. I see the FO either attempting to trade Sacre or buying out his minimum wage contract. We can always sign another undrafted player that gets cut before the start of the season like how we got Tarik Black last year.

  • I say keep Jabari. 4 of our guards have already had injuries & missed games in the preseason- Huertas, Russell, Williams & Kobe (if you still call him a SG). He can score & can sub for Williams or Young off the bench if they’re shot ain’t falling.

  • that’s wrong. Upshaw has not shown any promise. Matter of fact, he look like he does not know what to do. Sacre been in the league for years and knows what he needs to do unlike upshaw

  • Most of our power forwards handle the ball better than Jabari. He won’t help if we lose our PG’s.

  • Most of our power forwards handle the ball better than Jabari. He won’t help if we lose our PG’s.

  • They talk about upside, Sacre has none. Upshaw is potentially a core starter after he learns the rope. The funny thing is, Sacre was preventing us from winning all preseason. It’s a double whammy. Lose a prospect and lose games when sacre plays. By retaining Sacre, What B scott is saying just be a good guy, cost us games, it doesn’t matter.

  • They talk about upside, Sacre has none. Upshaw is potentially a core starter after he learns the rope. The funny thing is, Sacre was preventing us from winning all preseason. It’s a double whammy. Lose a prospect and lose games when sacre plays. By retaining Sacre, What B scott is saying just be a good guy, cost us games, it doesn’t matter.

  • can sacre switch? at least with upshaw teams don’t force themselves in the paint because the guy there can’t block shots.

  • Yeah but won’t they need backups because they are pretty thin in the guards section.

  • can sacre switch? at least with upshaw teams don’t force themselves in the paint because the guy there can’t block shots.

  • Yeah but won’t they need backups because they are pretty thin in the guards section.

  • 2nd rounders doesn’t get guarantees. He’s staying cuz byron doesn’t have a 3 and D guy. A. Brown barely qualifies.

  • 2nd rounders doesn’t get guarantees. He’s staying cuz byron doesn’t have a 3 and D guy. A. Brown barely qualifies.

  • Yes he did he averaged at 1.5blks in limited minutes not to mention shots he altered. Sacre should’ve been cut idc if he’s on contract

  • Yes he did he averaged at 1.5blks in limited minutes not to mention shots he altered. Sacre should’ve been cut idc if he’s on contract

  • They didn’t have him. He worked out for the lakers but lakers thought Sacre was better. Soon after Whiteside got his contract then blew up the league. he had 6 blocks recently. I’m sure Sacre will get 6 blocks eventually.

  • upshaw tried goodlybut he gotcut good try, though, relax guys I woudnt be surprised sucre gets cut lateror tommorow morning trust me!

  • They didn’t have him. He worked out for the lakers but lakers thought Sacre was better. Soon after Whiteside got his contract then blew up the league. he had 6 blocks recently. I’m sure Sacre will get 6 blocks eventually.

  • upshaw tried goodlybut he gotcut good try, though, relax guys I woudnt be surprised sucre gets cut lateror tommorow morning trust me!

  • Lou, Russell, Clarkson, Kobe, Huertas can all play either guard position. Young and Anthony Brown can play the 2 if needed. They have a lot of options and flexibility. Rather have Metta on the roster bringing the energy.

  • Upshaw is definitely not a Whiteside type player. Hasaan has better, fluid movements on court, while Upshaw is a walking Frankenstein. Whiteside has the hunger to crash the boards, while Upshaw does not. Sorry, we can’t compare apples to garbage. Sacre has better trade value, while Upshaw is a d-leaguer.

  • Lou, Russell, Clarkson, Kobe, Huertas can all play either guard position. Young and Anthony Brown can play the 2 if needed. They have a lot of options and flexibility. Rather have Metta on the roster bringing the energy.

  • Upshaw is definitely not a Whiteside type player. Hasaan has better, fluid movements on court, while Upshaw is a walking Frankenstein. Whiteside has the hunger to crash the boards, while Upshaw does not. Sorry, we can’t compare apples to garbage. Sacre has better trade value, while Upshaw is a d-leaguer.

  • Sorry to say, you’ll have to stay pissed for a long time. Sacre is Byron’s new head of the snake.

  • I am the kind of fan who is sick and tired of watching a front office that lets go of young talent and assets in favor of bandaid players who are average at best. Sick of watching a team that refuses to rebuild and instead insists on perennial mediocrity simply out of pride and stupidity. Tired of watching free agency be spent fawning over stars and ignoring impact players who are actually attainable. This organization has let me down one too many times.

  • Sorry to say, you’ll have to stay pissed for a long time. Sacre is Byron’s new head of the snake.

  • I am the kind of fan who is sick and tired of watching a front office that lets go of young talent and assets in favor of bandaid players who are average at best. Sick of watching a team that refuses to rebuild and instead insists on perennial mediocrity simply out of pride and stupidity. Tired of watching free agency be spent fawning over stars and ignoring impact players who are actually attainable. This organization has let the fans down too many times.

  • That may be the reason he left the Lakers for a month after SL; it’s good speculation. Meth helps you lose weight too, just saying if you take it you don’t have to eat too much.

  • then we lose. That’s the formula. Sacre = free throws/ layups for the other team.

  • That may be the reason he left the Lakers for a month after SL; it’s good speculation. Meth helps you lose weight too, just saying if you take it you don’t have to eat too much.

  • then we lose. That’s the formula. Sacre = free throws/ layups for the other team.

  • Jabari should be signed to a long term contract. He’s a quiet, hard-nosed defender that can lead by example. He’s a really good spot up shooter. He reminds me of D-Fish.

  • Jabari should be signed to a long term contract. He’s a quiet, hard-nosed defender that can lead by example. He’s a really good spot up shooter. He reminds me of D-Fish.

  • Great, we keep that scrub Sacre over Upshaw?! I’m so pissed. The sooner Suckre is off the roster, the better. Give all the back up minutes to Tarik Black so that we never see Suckre on the court again.

  • That is the definition of being spoiled. I’m 31 and I began to root for the lakers at the end of the 90’s. I was able to feel the joy of winning 5 championships. How many fans in the NBA can tell the same ?
    Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, that’s life. Rebuilding is a hard time we must experience I know, but ey, we are on a good path.

  • Great, we keep that scrub Sacre over Upshaw?! I’m so pissed. The sooner Suckre is off the roster, the better. Give all the back up minutes to Tarik Black so that we never see Suckre on the court again.

  • That is the definition of being spoiled. I’m 31 and I began to root for the lakers at the end of the 90’s. I was able to feel the joy of winning 5 championships. How many fans in the NBA can tell the same ?
    Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, that’s life. Rebuilding is a hard time we must experience I know, but ey, we are on a good path.

  • True, but still think we can’t have too many guards especially since 4 of the 5 guys other than Clarkson have missed 2 games just in the preseason

  • Not really no. I don’t think Sacre will play much if at all. I see Black and Bass playing the backup 5 position. Based on summer play that is their strongest lineup. Neither Upshaw or Sacre would have gotten any burn, so might as well stick with the guy that you have to pay.

  • True, but still think we can’t have too many guards especially since 4 of the 5 guys other than Clarkson have missed 2 games just in the preseason

  • Not really no. I don’t think Sacre will play much if at all. I see Black and Bass playing the backup 5 position. Based on summer play that is their strongest lineup. Neither Upshaw or Sacre would have gotten any burn, so might as well stick with the guy that you have to pay.

  • You misunderstand me. Of course Black will be the 2nd option. Waht I meant is that Sacre could not even be the 3rd option as Byron could put on the court a small line-up with Bass at the C spot.

  • Not really,until proven otherwise unlike uphshaw who has already a wide known history of drug use

  • You misunderstand me. Of course Black will be the 2nd option. Waht I meant is that Sacre could not even be the 3rd option as Byron could put on the court a small line-up with Bass at the C spot.

  • Not really,until proven otherwise unlike uphshaw who has already a wide known history of drug use

  • Hopefully they can throw him in the d-league to gain some experience no doubt he was very underwhelming in the preseason.

  • Hopefully they can throw him in the d-league to gain some experience no doubt he was very underwhelming in the preseason.

  • Pretty obvious the guys slow footed , out of shape and looked lost when playing

  • Pretty obvious the guys slow footed , out of shape and looked lost when playing

  • I doubt eating a min contract trumps retaining a future core player in the mold of Hibbert. The only way Upshaw can remain a laker is the PR department put out a story about his drug setback. Some other team will pick him up pretty soon. Brooklyn needs a 3rd stringer. They don’t worry about contracts.

  • Which isn’t bad. They have a good bench and with kelly actually showing promise they can run and look to outscore a lot of benches.

  • I doubt eating a min contract trumps retaining a future core player in the mold of Hibbert. The only way Upshaw can remain a laker is the PR department put out a story about his drug setback. Some other team will pick him up pretty soon. Brooklyn needs a 3rd stringer. They don’t worry about contracts.

  • Which isn’t bad. They have a good bench and with kelly actually showing promise they can run and look to outscore a lot of benches.

  • I don’t know. Upshaw wasn’t drafted for a reason. I think people wanted him to be some sort of hidden gem, but his history has shown he isn’t ready to be a professional.

  • I don’t know. Upshaw wasn’t drafted for a reason. I think people wanted him to be some sort of hidden gem, but his history has shown he isn’t ready to be a professional.

  • Regarding Upshaw my understanding is issues arose that concerned Lakers that go beyond talent – nothing outrageous but enough to say no – eric pincus

  • Regarding Upshaw my understanding is issues arose that concerned Lakers that go beyond talent – nothing outrageous but enough to say no – eric pincus

  • Not at all. I am not angry because I demand success, in fact I have been a fan through some of their worst seasons ever. I understand that it is a process and winning takes time. I do however demand that the team not sabotage itself through the strategy of the FO. Which in my opinion is what is happening.
    I would be much happier watching us win 30 games with upshaw and brown than 35 with sacre and world peace. Because with the former progress and player development would be prioritized.

  • Try to think how he lost 20+pounds in a short amount of time and yet he still looks slow and out of shape

  • Not at all. I am not angry because I demand success, in fact I have been a fan through some of their worst seasons ever. I understand that it is a process and winning takes time. I do however demand that the team not sabotage itself through the strategy of the FO. Which in my opinion is what is happening.
    I would be much happier watching us win 30 games with upshaw and brown than 35 with sacre and world peace. Because with the former progress and player development would be prioritized.

  • Try to think how he lost 20+pounds in a short amount of time and yet he still looks slow and out of shape

  • Exactly. I’m glad with our second unit. I prefer our bench than the Clippers’

  • Exactly. I’m glad with our second unit. I prefer our bench than the Clippers’

  • In fact, I would argue that those who support these kind of moves are spoiled, demanding instant gratification rather than embracing the process of developing a cohesive young team, of which Upshaw should have been a large piece.

  • Regarding Upshaw my understanding is issues arose that concerned Lakers that go beyond talent – nothing outrageous but enough to say no – eric pincus

    Sheeple learn to use your head. Some people won’t ever change.

  • not really what? Durrant and melo smoke weed recreationally. They’re pot heads by definition. what other drug are we talking about when you bring up the word “pot”
    yes, Robert has a history of drug abuse, alcohol? anything else is also speculative.
    Ty lawson has alcohol problems. Doesn’t stop teams from trying to get him, Lakers included. Just didn’t have assets to get him.

  • In fact, I would argue that those who support these kind of moves are spoiled, demanding instant gratification rather than embracing the process of developing a cohesive young team, of which Upshaw should have been a large piece.

  • Regarding Upshaw my understanding is issues arose that concerned Lakers that go beyond talent – nothing outrageous but enough to say no – eric pincus

    Sheeple learn to use your head. Some people won’t ever change.

  • not really what? Durrant and melo smoke weed recreationally. They’re pot heads by definition. what other drug are we talking about when you bring up the word “pot”
    yes, Robert has a history of drug abuse, alcohol? anything else is also speculative.
    Ty lawson has alcohol problems. Doesn’t stop teams from trying to get him, Lakers included. Just didn’t have assets to get him.

  • It’s pretty obvious when u saw the games ,guy looks slow and lost when playing

  • It’s pretty obvious when u saw the games ,guy looks slow and lost when playing

  • Bass going to be playing backup center and they going to run and gun in the 2nd unit watch.

  • He has taken steps to better himself – losing weight, cutting out his drug demon. On the court stuff, he’s not there yet, but do you agree once you get him to be a professioanal on and off, is he going to be a huge asset?

  • Bass going to be playing backup center and they going to run and gun in the 2nd unit watch.

  • He has taken steps to better himself – losing weight, cutting out his drug demon. On the court stuff, he’s not there yet, but do you agree once you get him to be a professioanal on and off, is he going to be a huge asset?

  • Ok I take it back, but don’t write big words when the players involved are Robert Sacre, Robert Upshaw, Jabari Brown or aging MWP. They are not the key pieces to our way back to contention. Our draft was very good. Letting go Okafor was the best choice EVER to not screw our process. I’m not extatic, but no reason to overdramatize.

  • Ok I take it back, but don’t write big words when the players involved are Robert Sacre, Robert Upshaw, Jabari Brown or aging MWP. They are not the key pieces to our way back to contention. Our draft was very good. Letting go Okafor was the best choice EVER to not screw our process. I’m not extatic, but no reason to overdramatize.

  • He can beast sooner than that. When he latches on with another team this season, he’ll go up against Sacre, we’ll see what a monumental mistake this was.
    Last year Sacre went against Whiteside, another dude whose character issue Sacre beat out, Robert got completely dominated. It’ll happen again.

  • Melo and Durant are both proven stars already and worth the risk unlike Upshaw who’s very raw and unproven and it seems like it isn’t just weed problems otherwise the team brass wouldn’t be scared on his off court issues

  • Melo and Durant are both proven stars already and worth the risk unlike Upshaw who’s very raw and unproven and it seems like it isn’t just weed problems otherwise the team brass wouldn’t be scared on his off court issues

  • The reason it’s important is because we have given up alot of first round picks in the next couple of years. A rebuilding team with no first round picks must rely on ‘steals’ like clarkson and black were last yr.
    Upshaw was considered a lottery talent but admittedly took steps backwards. Taking a year to develop him could very well have given us a first round caliber player next season, offsetting the loss of the pick.

  • The reason it’s important is because we have given up alot of first round picks in the next couple of years. A rebuilding team with no first round picks must rely on ‘steals’ like clarkson and black were last yr.
    Upshaw was considered a lottery talent but admittedly took steps backwards. Taking a year to develop him could very well have given us a first round caliber player next season, offsetting the loss of the pick.

  • I am not sure. Nothing he did overly impressed me. He looked pretty awkward and out of shape. Especially to how conditioned the rest of the team looked. Maybe one day though. I think the chemistry concerns make the risk not worth it though.

  • I am not sure. Nothing he did overly impressed me. He looked pretty awkward and out of shape. Especially to how conditioned the rest of the team looked. Maybe one day though. I think the chemistry concerns make the risk not worth it though.

  • I said, guys. Sacre will be on the team. Way more trusteable personality, and a good teammate.

  • I love our young core, but we need to expand it just in case some of the guys bust, leave, or get injured. Guys like upshaw, black, jabari, and holmes, are good ways to expand a young core without a large investment of assets. Also gives you better odds of some of them being good or even great. Just smart business.

  • I said, guys. Sacre will be on the team. Way more trusteable personality, and a good teammate.

  • I love our young core, but we need to expand it just in case some of the guys bust, leave, or get injured. Guys like upshaw, black, jabari, and holmes, are good ways to expand a young core without a large investment of assets. Also gives you better odds of some of them being good or even great. Just smart business.

  • Mark my words..Sacre will have his jersey retired and go down as the goat when it’s all said and done

  • Mark my words..Sacre will have his jersey retired and go down as the goat when it’s all said and done

  • Scott spoke of “big-tim learning curve on both ends”. The guy was undrafted. Who cares ? We may not even need draft picks :
    – Russell, Randle, Nance, Brown, Young, Williams are under contract.
    – Clarkson, Black will probably sign an extension.
    – Depending on their season, Hibbert and Huertas could sign multi-years contracts too.
    That’s 10 players. That’s a core. Add some pieces, Superstar or not, and I’m fine with it. Upshaw won’t change its destiny.

  • Scott spoke of “big-tim learning curve on both ends”. The guy was undrafted. Who cares ? We may not even need draft picks :
    – Russell, Randle, Nance, Brown, Young, Williams are under contract.
    – Clarkson, Black will probably sign an extension.
    – Depending on their season, Hibbert and Huertas could sign multi-years contracts too.
    That’s 10 players. That’s a core. Add some pieces, Superstar or not, and I’m fine with it. Upshaw won’t change its destiny.

  • Trusting how? Good teammate how? Maybe a good person buit everything else is nay

  • Trusting how? Good teammate how? Maybe a good person buit everything else is nay

  • Fair, but as I said there are mitigating factors, injury, leaving, or being busts can apply to most of the players you named. (Not saying i think any of our young guys are busts, just that it is possible)
    A learning curve is exactly what you expect for a raw prospect, and you cant expect a lottery pick to fall to you undrafted without some negatives, but the fact remains that he was the best shotblocker in college basketball. If he meets his potential he very well could change the future of the team.

  • Fair, but as I said there are mitigating factors, injury, leaving, or being busts can apply to most of the players you named. (Not saying i think any of our young guys are busts, just that it is possible)
    A learning curve is exactly what you expect for a raw prospect, and you cant expect a lottery pick to fall to you undrafted without some negatives, but the fact remains that he was the best shotblocker in college basketball. If he meets his potential he very well could change the future of the team.

  • Also I would point out that his shot was much better than advertised, and showed the makings of a decent post game. Not things to be overlooked..

  • Scary thing about Sacre not getting cut is he might actually see playing time

  • Its actually not. It depends entirely on whether or not someone decides to claim him. He has no say in the matter.

  • Also I would point out that his shot was much better than advertised, and showed the makings of a decent post game. Not things to be overlooked..

  • Scary thing about Sacre not getting cut is he might actually see playing time

  • Its actually not. It depends entirely on whether or not someone decides to claim him. He has no say in the matter.

  • I do agree that would be the ideal situation however, as long as we have an agreement for him to not sign somewhere else if he does well.

  • I do agree that would be the ideal situation however, as long as we have an agreement for him to not sign somewhere else if he does well.

  • Thank god, I’m not alone. I have the impression that most of the guys based their judgement on Youtube mix, NCAA stats, instead of actually watching how Upshaw played a NBA paced game. And it wasn’t pretty. There were some flashes, but nothing that can secure him a spot in the roster.
    And yeah, Black will be our back-up, that wasn’t even a debate. He is our greatest roll man on the PnR, great energy, great rebound, and his midrange shot last night was promising too.

  • Thank god, I’m not alone. I have the impression that most of the guys based their judgement on Youtube mix, NCAA stats, instead of actually watching how Upshaw played a NBA paced game. And it wasn’t pretty. There were some flashes, but nothing that can secure him a spot in the roster.
    And yeah, Black will be our back-up, that wasn’t even a debate. He is our greatest roll man on the PnR, great energy, great rebound, and his midrange shot last night was promising too.

  • not what you said. You proposed Upshaw would fail in the league because he’s a pot head. Do you think Melo and Durrant just started smoking after they became stars? you trash one guy for being a pothead then you should trash them all, their career a success or not.

  • Why ??? Come on Sacre over Upshaw ??? I thought the Lakes cared more about the talent than the money ????

  • not what you said. You proposed Upshaw would fail in the league because he’s a pot head. Do you think Melo and Durrant just started smoking after they became stars? you trash one guy for being a pothead then you should trash them all, their career a success or not.

  • Why ??? Come on Sacre over Upshaw ??? I thought the Lakes cared more about the talent than the money ????

  • I don’t think anyone is expecting Sacre to be playing at the end of the 4th quarter.

  • But sacre blocked a shot last game so he protects the rim better than upshaw

  • I don’t think anyone is expecting Sacre to be playing at the end of the 4th quarter.

  • Why? He was pretty bad. Or are you basing this on the player you imagine him to be.

  • Why? He was pretty bad. Or are you basing this on the player you imagine him to be.

  • Potential ! He was projected as a lotto pick , In the last 17 years in the draft he was the only player who had measured with 7’5 wingspan at his size not to mention his shot blocking ability to go with it , if we won’t contend for a title this year why not let the rook grow . MWP is a one year deal and nothing else .

  • Potential ! He was projected as a lotto pick , In the last 17 years in the draft he was the only player who had measured with 7’5 wingspan at his size not to mention his shot blocking ability to go with it , if we won’t contend for a title this year why not let the rook grow . MWP is a one year deal and nothing else .

  • I think that Robert Sacre, despite his limited skill set, can be useful. I mean, the guy is experienced, has an excellent attitude and knows what is expected from him. Look how Huertas made him a better player yesterday. We don’t need more from a third string player.

  • I think that Robert Sacre, despite his limited skill set, can be useful. I mean, the guy is experienced, has an excellent attitude and knows what is expected from him. Look how Huertas made him a better player yesterday. We don’t need more from a third string player.

  • Maybe you don’t see it now, no problem. he’s raw, inexperienced. Chemistry is an issue. But the question is what risk? The alternative is Sacre. all the chemistry you get with his is favoritism – keeping him around cuz he’s a good guy. Can we really do that being a team hungry for talent as we are?

    Beside, Upshaw relapses he gets cut. He doesn’t he’s a valuable piece. The bigger risk is losing future talent while he was in your house – then he signs elsewhere to be the thing you covete – interior defender. It’s happened before, don’t repeat.

  • If he really still has off court drug issues the brass might be afraid he’d influenced the other youngsters to do the same since alot of them are close in age

  • Maybe you don’t see it now, no problem. he’s raw, inexperienced. Chemistry is an issue. But the question is what risk? The alternative is Sacre. all the chemistry you get with his is favoritism – keeping him around cuz he’s a good guy. Can we really do that being a team hungry for talent as we are?

    Beside, Upshaw relapses he gets cut. He doesn’t he’s a valuable piece. The bigger risk is losing future talent while he was in your house – then he signs elsewhere to be the thing you covete – interior defender. It’s happened before, don’t repeat.

  • If he really still has off court drug issues the brass might be afraid he’d influenced the other youngsters to do the same since alot of them are close in age

  • But Metta is there to mentor Randle. And Randle actually is showing potential. I think having a great mentor for Randle is more important than wasting time on a guy with character issues who came to camp out of shape.

  • But Metta is there to mentor Randle. And Randle actually is showing potential. I think having a great mentor for Randle is more important than wasting time on a guy with character issues who came to camp out of shape.

  • This decision was not unexpected. Sacre is better than Upshaw right now (atleast from what I’ve seen in pre-season).
    Hopefully, that motivates Upshaw to do great in Dleague. People forget that Clarkson went to this same process.

  • This decision was not unexpected. Sacre is better than Upshaw right now (atleast from what I’ve seen in pre-season).
    Hopefully, that motivates Upshaw to do great in Dleague. People forget that Clarkson went through this same process.
    Even without Upshaw Sacre should be cut.

  • I like Upshaw as much as the next fan. He was waived for many reasons. He’s far behind than what he should be and from what I’m understanding, heart condition is still an issue. I just don’t get how we can keep Sacre for 3yrs but not have the time to teach Upshaw. We have no chance of winning a chip and Sacre is not going to add any more wins than Upshaw. If his health is a major concern then I get why they waived him. Goodluck to Upshaw and Frazier.

  • I like Upshaw as much as the next fan. He was waived for many reasons. He’s far behind than what he should be and from what I’m understanding, heart condition is still an issue. I just don’t get how we can keep Sacre for 3yrs but not have the time to teach Upshaw. We have no chance of winning a chip and Sacre is not going to add any more wins than Upshaw. If his health is a major concern then I get why they waived him. Goodluck to Upshaw and Frazier.

  • The Lakers need more Ex Lakers around the organization just to have championship energy around, it would be great if jabbar,magic, shaq, fisher and guys like that would be more involved

  • The Lakers need more Ex Lakers around the organization just to have championship energy around and mentor the rookies and players, it would be great if jabbar,magic, shaq, fisher and guys like that would be more involved.

    Instead ex lakers and coaches are spread out throughout the league like shaw, luke Walton, fisher, phil and rambis, instead of helping lakers

  • Lakers can’t let go of Sacre because
    sacre = simple past and past participle of SACRED.

  • You’re probably right. It definitely isn’t based on his basketball ability.

  • Lakers can’t let go of Sacre because
    sacre = simple past and past participle of SACRED.

  • You’re probably right. It definitely isn’t based on his basketball ability.

  • Other team will pick him up. There is always a place for 7’0″ guy with 7’6″ wingspan in the league.

  • Grammar error: Mentioning Fisher in the same sentence as Jabbar, Magic, & Shaq.

  • Other team will pick him up. There is always a place for 7’0″ guy with 7’6″ wingspan in the league.

  • Grammar error: Mentioning Fisher in the same sentence as Jabbar, Magic, & Shaq.

  • Uh I think they cut the wrong Robert! What kind of leverage do Sacre have on the FO?

  • Uh I think they cut the wrong Robert! What kind of leverage do Sacre have on the FO?

  • Jim : Didn’t we just pay this guy a million ??? I don’t want to pay another guy and waste the million even if he might be the next defensive player of the year someday !!!!

  • Jim : Didn’t we just pay this guy a million ??? I don’t want to pay another guy and waste the million even if he might be the next defensive player of the year someday !!!!

  • Kelly proved me wrong but Sacre should have been in the first cut regardless of who else !

  • Kelly proved me wrong but Sacre should have been in the first cut regardless of who else !

  • Mm…. , Philly last year made a deal with a player who was offered contracts and simply turned them down only to get multi year guarantee one this year !!!!!!!!
    I winder and wonder if that is in play here since the league knows about it and just looked the other way !!!!

  • Mm…. , Philly last year made a deal with a player who was offered contracts and simply turned them down only to get multi year guarantee one this year !!!!!!!!
    I winder and wonder if that is in play here since the league knows about it and just looked the other way !!!!

  • The Philly player stayed in their D-league all year and now admitted to the under the table deal .

  • The Philly player stayed in their D-league all year and now admitted to the under the table deal .

  • Why would he stay with the Lakers if other team offer him a guaranteed contract? I hope he stay with the D-Fenders but I just don’t see it.

  • Why would he stay with the Lakers if other team offer him a guaranteed contract? I hope he stay with the D-Fenders but I just don’t see it.

  • Wow talk about shocker. I swear it’s like some how Sacre keeps staying in this team. Out of all the mistakes he makes on the court. Byron Scott and Mitch still think he is good? Come’on now.. At least will have this bum for this year and that’s it. I can find a better 3rd string center at the park.

  • Wow talk about shocker. I swear it’s like some how Sacre keeps staying in this team. Out of all the mistakes he makes on the court. Byron Scott and Mitch still think he is good? Come’on now.. At least will have this bum for this year and that’s it. I can find a better 3rd string center at the park.

  • My sentiments right now too. This is just Dumb AF. I’m so pissed off right now.

  • My sentiments right now too. This is just Dumb AF. I’m so pissed off right now.

  • EXACTLY!!! NO PICKS = WE have to DEVELOP YOUNG TALENT. Not Keep known subpar players to make Backstage Lakers Interesting.

  • EXACTLY!!! NO PICKS = WE have to DEVELOP YOUNG TALENT. Not Keep known subpar players to make Backstage Lakers Interesting.

  • Not too surprising, but I would have taken a chance on Upshaw — little to lose and a lot to gain.

  • Not too surprising, but I would have taken a chance on Upshaw — little to lose and a lot to gain.

  • I think it says more about their confidence in Upshaw than it does their confidence about Sacre.

  • I think it says more about their confidence in Upshaw (or lack thereof) than it does their confidence about Sacre.

  • Sacre has sucked for 3 yrs straight he does nothing good he’s the worst player on the roster. He’s are new Luke Walton

  • Sacre has sucked for 3 yrs straight he does nothing good he’s the worst player on the roster. He’s are new Luke Walton

  • Frazier didn’t really get much of a chance but the staff must know more than we do. I liked Frazier’s game better than Jabari’s; can most definitely handle better and didn’t make bone-headed mistakes like Jabari has shown. Alas the staff must know more than we do on this.

    For Upshaw and Sacre, their production on the court was night and day. Upshaw still looked rookie-ish at times put the potential was obviously there whereas Sacre is just a constant “SMH” player. Those questions about Upshaw’s character must still be there for them to cut him.

    Lastly, Holmes hasn’t gotten a lot of time. But in the short stint, I actually liked his play better than Anthony Brown’s. Too bad he got hurt cause I’m not too impressed with Brown.

  • Frazier didn’t really get much of a chance but the staff must know more than we do. I liked Frazier’s game better than Jabari’s; can most definitely handle better and didn’t make bone-headed mistakes like Jabari has shown. Frazier kinda reminded me of Wayne Ellington, just a solid player. Hope he catches on somewhere else.

    For Upshaw and Sacre, their production on the court was night and day. Upshaw still looked rookie-ish at times put the potential was obviously there whereas Sacre is just a constant “SMH” player. Those questions about Upshaw’s character must still be there for them to cut him. Hopefully we can get him on the D-Fenders for a longer evaluation.

    Lastly, Holmes hasn’t gotten a lot of time. But in the short stint, I actually liked his play better than Anthony Brown’s. Too bad he got hurt cause I’m not too impressed with Brown. Brown has that Wesley Johnson sickness in that you barely notice he’s on the court.

  • I think Frazier’s biggest problem was the depth chart — no way he was going to beat out Clarkson or Williams for PT and the short stint with him at the point wasn’t short enough.

  • I think Frazier’s biggest problem was the depth chart — no way he was going to beat out Clarkson or Williams for PT and the short stint with him at the point wasn’t short enough.

  • Big Game said Holmes was a hard worker in practice…Upshaw’s motivation and work ethic has been questioned publicly.

    No secret as to which player Byron Scott prefers.

  • Big Game said Holmes was a hard worker in practice…Upshaw’s motivation and work ethic has been questioned publicly.

    No secret as to which player Byron Scott prefers.

  • But holmes will be cut ..I mean he won’t play next game so u won’t see anything from him !! That what I mean..unless they keeping him over mwp andr jabari

  • But holmes will be cut ..I mean he won’t play next game so u won’t see anything from him !! That what I mean..unless they keeping him over mwp andr jabari

  • OK, my bad……I’d prefer they sign Holmes and send him to the d-league for the year, but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if they went with MWP.

    I don’t see JBrown making it — not enough room in the backcourt.

  • OK, my bad……I’d prefer they sign Holmes and send him to the d-league for the year, but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if they went with MWP.

    I don’t see JBrown making it — not enough room in the backcourt.

  • that’s a very wrong opinion considering Sacre was the first player to get fouled out and stay in the game. He does do good things like last game he blocked shots and got good hook shots

  • that’s a very wrong opinion considering Sacre was the first player to get fouled out and stay in the game. He does do good things like last game he blocked shots and got good hook shots

  • why upshaw not sacre……i wanted to keep upshaw…this dude a lot of potential….hope keep tarik black…

  • why upshaw not sacre……i wanted to keep upshaw…this dude a lot of potential….hope keep tarik black…

  • I think Black stays so the final spot comes down to JABARI BROWN VS METTA WORLD PEACE.

  • I think Black stays so the final spot comes down to JABARI BROWN VS METTA WORLD PEACE.

  • Haha glad I’m not the only one. Really tired of the front office doing crap like this.

  • Haha glad I’m not the only one. Really tired of the front office doing crap like this.

  • No doubt. Even if he made the team, he would rarely play. To me, I would’ve picked him over Jabari Brown though

  • No doubt. Even if he made the team, he would rarely play. To me, I would’ve picked him over Jabari Brown though

  • I swear…sacre has so much freaking luck.

    What were they expecting from upshaw? Dude is a rookie, lost weight, and hadn’t played since..what almost a year? Such a mistake

  • I swear…sacre has so much freaking luck.

    What were they expecting from upshaw? Dude is a rookie, lost weight, and hadn’t played since..what almost a year? Such a mistake

  • Anthony Brown is just out there because he is the only legit SF we have. So far, he’s fitting into Wesley Johnson’s shoes pretty well

  • Anthony Brown is just out there because he is the only legit SF we have. So far, he’s fitting into Wesley Johnson’s shoes pretty well

  • It’s not about imagining. It’s called potential. Kinda like Russell has potential but hasn’t done much.

  • It’s not about imagining. It’s called potential. Kinda like Russell has potential but hasn’t done much.

  • * had character issues
    *lost weight asap

    You can’t blame him for weight gain and being out of basketball shape…he wasn’t playing ball

    Look, metta can be kept. But not letting go of holmes (injured) or sacre before upshaw is beyond dumb.

    Upshaw will get picked up in a hurry.

  • * had character issues
    *lost weight asap

    You can’t blame him for weight gain and being out of basketball shape…he wasn’t playing ball

    Look, metta can be kept. But not letting go of holmes (injured) or sacre before upshaw is beyond dumb.

    Upshaw will get picked up in a hurry.

  • Kinda obvious he made this decision. He has direct say in this as he’s been coaching and watching these guys in practice+ game. Letting go of sacre would require approval as he has a guaranteed deal

  • Kinda obvious he made this decision. He has direct say in this as he’s been coaching and watching these guys in practice+ game. Letting go of sacre would require approval as he has a guaranteed deal

  • The quote you brought up says nothing outrageous. Can’t be the same issue if it’s “nothing outrageous”.

    They just didn’t want to throw away $1 mil. Upshaw probably arrived late to practice and they’re using it as an excuse

  • The quote you brought up says nothing outrageous. Can’t be the same issue if it’s “nothing outrageous”.

    They just didn’t want to throw away $1 mil. Upshaw probably arrived late to practice and they’re using it as an excuse

  • I’ve never seen sacre work extremely hard on the court. He might be a great person, but I’ve never seen him dive for balls, or anything that suggests he works hard. How many rebounds can he get? 7footer and he barely gets 3?

  • I’ve never seen sacre work extremely hard on the court. He might be a great person, but I’ve never seen him dive for balls, or anything that suggests he works hard. How many rebounds can he get? 7footer and he barely gets 3?

  • 100% on point. Don’t listen to the one below. She’d be lost too #getbacktothekitchen

  • 100% on point. Don’t listen to the one below. She’d be lost too #getbacktothekitchen

  • So that pump fake slam isn’t enough? His blocked shots? I think he knows what to do…he just hasn’t played in so long that the quickness of the nba is hard to get use to. It comes with time

    Your second point is invalid. Upshaw doesn’t know what to do. Sacre has been in the league so he knows what to do. No way Jose, really? Ones a damn rookie. Even Russell looks scared at times.

    Sacre brings nothing. Absolutely nothing. He doesn’t even cheer like he use to

  • So that pump fake slam isn’t enough? His blocked shots? I think he knows what to do…he just hasn’t played in so long that the quickness of the nba is hard to get use to. It comes with time

    Your second point is invalid. Upshaw doesn’t know what to do. Sacre has been in the league so he knows what to do. No way Jose, really? Ones a damn rookie. Even Russell looks scared at times.

    Sacre brings nothing. Absolutely nothing. He doesn’t even cheer like he use to

  • iN 24 hrs Upshaw now must turn down – CAVS; Clippers; Suns, jeez . . the list keeps growing! Choose Lakers, Choose Lakers . . .

  • iN 24 hrs Upshaw now must turn down – CAVS; Clippers; Suns, jeez . . the list keeps growing! Choose Lakers, Choose Lakers . . .

  • bass is not a better defender then black. hes less foul prone but that comes with experience

  • bass is not a better defender then black. hes less foul prone but that comes with experience

  • The Lakers said they would keep him if he clears waivers — they obviously believe he will.

  • The Lakers said they would keep him if he clears waivers — they obviously believe he will.

  • Great now we can sign sacre 4 3 year 26 million contract he is just gonna get better and better

  • Great now we can sign sacre 4 3 year 26 million contract he is just gonna get better and better

  • You have only made 15 post , your just new here so we wont miss you, don’t let the door hit ya. We don’t want TRILLS ANY WAY.

  • You have only made 15 post , your just new here so we wont miss you, don’t let the door hit ya. We don’t want TRILLS ANY WAY.

  • You just need to find another team, this one will give you a bad heart, because nothing is going to change just because you want it to so say good by and make your self and all of us very happy.

  • Me2. But I will be damned if I let Jim Buss outlast me. I want to see Jeannie walk him out of the building.

  • You just need to find another team, this one will give you a bad heart, because nothing is going to change just because you want it to so say good by and make your self and all of us very happy.

  • Me2. But I will be damned if I let Jim Buss outlast me. I want to see Jeannie walk him out of the building.

  • Lmao you poor little guy. If your happiness is really based on whether or not I voice my displeasure with a sports team on the internet then things must really be rough.
    I did not say anything rude or crude to anyone, I simply made a reasoned argument against what I find to be an inneffective strategy.
    If you would like to rebut any of my points I would love to discuss them with you, but if your only intention is to be some sort of sad internet policeman, then please go away.

  • Lmao you poor little guy. If your happiness is really based on whether or not I voice my displeasure with a sports team on the internet then things must really be rough.
    I did not say anything rude or crude to anyone, I simply made a reasoned argument against what I find to be an inneffective strategy.
    If you would like to rebut any of my points I would love to discuss them with you, but if your only intention is to be some sort of sad internet policeman, then please go away.

  • As fans we are allowed to be frustrated, especially when an organization makes repeated poor decisions. What we are not allowed to do is insist that people on the internet stop participating in an online discussion because we disagree with them.
    Particularly not without stating any grounds for disagreement.
    I may not like the current front office, coach, or the direction of the ownership, but the fact remains that I am passionate enough about the team to care about the effects poor decision making has had and will continue to have on the team. I am a Laker fan and no one, particularly not you, can decide that I should not be.
    This, my friend, is AMERICA!
    (Ok so the last part was a joke, but the rest of it was mostly real)

  • As fans we are allowed to be frustrated, especially when an organization makes repeated poor decisions. What we are not allowed to do is insist that people on the internet stop participating in an online discussion because we disagree with them.
    Particularly not without stating any grounds for disagreement.
    I may not like the current front office, coach, or the direction of the ownership, but the fact remains that I am passionate enough about the team to care about the effects poor decision making has had and will continue to have on the team. I am a Laker fan and no one, particularly not you, can decide that I should not be.
    This, my friend, is AMERICA!
    (Ok so the last part was a joke, but the rest of it was mostly real)

  • I have to go along with you, most of those others are complains are new guys that have not been on LAKERS NATION more then a few days, by the amount of post they have made, I don’t go along with any of it, the FO has worked hard to put this group of guys together, and I think they did a real good job, and I am sure there will be trades still to come this season.

  • I have to go along with you, most of those others are complains are new guys that have not been on LAKERS NATION more then a few days, by the amount of post they have made, I don’t go along with any of it, the FO has worked hard to put this group of guys together, and I think they did a real good job, and I am sure there will be trades still to come this season.

  • As I said, if you would like to discuss the merits of their decision I would be happy to, and I would respect your opinions. But to simply disregard the opinions of others because they have not been members of an online community for as long as you have is not exactly conducive to measured discussion.

  • As I said, if you would like to discuss the merits of their decision I would be happy to, and I would respect your opinions. But to simply disregard the opinions of others because they have not been members of an online community for as long as you have is not exactly conducive to measured discussion.

  • Most of us here have been here a long time and we saw for the last 3 year that we lived through all kinds of bad days, but knowing things will get better, and this year we were able to start our re-build and the FO has done a very good job and we are coming together again and they only thing you have been talking about the FO releasing Upshaw, a guy that is not ready to play NBA BB, and to release some one else that is NBA ready makes no sense to most of us.

  • Most of us here have been here a long time and we saw for the last 3 year that we lived through all kinds of bad days, but knowing things will get better, and this year we were able to start our re-build and the FO has done a very good job and we are coming together again and they only thing you have been talking about the FO releasing Upshaw, a guy that is not ready to play NBA BB, and to release some one else that is NBA ready makes no sense to most of us.

  • After s shot time TROLL do have a way of getting on your nerves, The END OF THIS STORY.

  • That is exactly the point. After this long, Sacre had to show more than just congeniality. This is how a team does get stuck in mediocrity. Upshaw at least had Upside. Neither Bass nor Black nor Sacre has any chance at being where Upshaw could be by the time the playoffs roll around. Same with MWP, no matter how much I love the guy. Metta is not the future and neither is Sacre.

  • After s shot time TROLL do have a way of getting on your nerves, The END OF THIS STORY.

  • That is exactly the point. After this long, Sacre had to show more than just congeniality. This is how a team does get stuck in mediocrity. Upshaw at least had Upside. Neither Bass nor Black nor Sacre has any chance at being where Upshaw could be by the time the playoffs roll around. Same with MWP, no matter how much I love the guy. Metta is not the future and neither is Sacre.

  • Well first of all I understand where you’re coming from. But to be fair this is an article about Upshaw, which is why my comments are primarily related to his release.
    I have been through the bad days as well, and respect that you are a true fan who didn’t abandon the team when things were bad. I have also been quite supportive of many of the Laakers moves this offseason (including many feuds with the ‘bustell’ idiots). I love the young players we have drafted, and have been impressed with tarik and jabari as well.
    However, there are things I disagree with, and due to the fact that we have limited draft picks in the immediate future, losing young players is a problem to me. A player with a ceiling as high as Upshaw’s is simply more valuable than a player in his prime who will be a third stringer. I feel the same about jabari, as the potential for improvement with him is simply more important than a single yr of MWP. (Though after seeing his work with Randle I definitely think he should take a player development role).

  • Well first of all I understand where you’re coming from. But to be fair this is an article about Upshaw, which is why my comments are primarily related to his release.
    I have been through the bad days as well, and respect that you are a true fan who didn’t abandon the team when things were bad. I have also been quite supportive of many of the Laakers moves this offseason (including many feuds with the ‘bustell’ idiots). I love the young players we have drafted, and have been impressed with tarik and jabari as well.
    However, there are things I disagree with, and due to the fact that we have limited draft picks in the immediate future, losing young players is a problem to me. A player with a ceiling as high as Upshaw’s is simply more valuable than a player in his prime who will be a third stringer. I feel the same about jabari, as the potential for improvement with him is simply more important than a single yr of MWP. (Though after seeing his work with Randle I definitely think he should take a player development role).

  • Not sure what you said, but I do apologize for the snarkiness of my original response. I was a bit taken aback by your comment.

  • Not sure what you said, but I do apologize for the snarkiness of my original response. I was a bit taken aback by your comment.

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  • I’m pissed…what are the lakers doing?? First they don’t re sign Ed Davis at center they sign hibbert to a zillion dollars and now they cut Robert upshaw?? And now they might cut Jabari or meta??? HELLO!!! You got 2 worthless bums on the team named sacre and Kelly!!!

  • I’m pissed…what are the lakers doing?? First they don’t re sign Ed Davis at center and now they cut Robert upshaw?? And now they might cut Jabari or meta??? If building for the future and Developing these young lakers is your goal then you gotta keep Jabari and meta!!! METTA ESPECIALLY IS CRUCIAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF JULIUS RANDLE! ….HELLO!!! You got 2 worthless bums on the team named sacre and Kelly!!! Explain to me how sacre and Kelly fit in to the teams future??? Come on Byron!!! I’ve been a fan since showtime era…but what are u doing????

  • I feel you on Ed Davis — not a game breaker by any chance but a perfect backup center/PF at a good salary.

  • I feel you on Ed Davis — not a game breaker by any chance but a perfect backup center/PF at a good salary.

  • Makes 0 sense because they could’ve just cut someone else like Metta who they aren’t paying lol nice try

  • Makes 0 sense because they could’ve just cut someone else like Metta who they aren’t paying lol nice try

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