Lakers Takeaways After Preseason Finale (VIDEOS)
Lakers Takeaways After Preseason Finale (videos)

The Los Angeles Lakers concluded the preseason with a 136-97 loss to the Golden State Warriors on Thursday night at Honda Center, a disappointing finish to their preseason finale. The Lakers gave up easy buckets in transition and allowed the Warriors to put their stamp on the game from the gates.

“We had an opportunity tonight to show if we’ve grown as a team, and I told them we fell flat on our face,” head coach Byron Scott said after the game. “I was very disappointed in the way we reacted as a team. When we started getting down guys seemed to go their own separate ways and we weren’t together as a group and that was very disheartening for me.”

Jordan Clarkson also left the game with a sprained right shoulder, and is expected to receive an MRI on Friday to diagnose the severity of the sprain, which Clarkson discusses in the videos below. Roy Hibbert, Byron Scott and D’Angelo Russell also discuss their takeaways from the preseason.

The Lakers finish the preseason with an official record of 2-5, since their last game against the Golden State Warriors in San Diego was called off during the third quarter, due to unsafe floor conditions, despite the Lakers being ahead 85-70. The Lakers first regular season game is October 28th against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

2015 Preseason Wrap-Up

Roy Hibbert: Not Satisfied With Lakers Defense

Jordan Clarkson On Severity Of His Shoulder Sprain

D’Angelo Russell On Facing Great Talent, Like Steph Curry, This Preseason

The main things I took away from that ugliness were: Pretty much outside of MWP, Hibbert and potentially A Brown the Lakers have no good defensive players. Some of them downright stink: Ryan Kelly, Huertas, Lou, Nick Young. Yes they played against the champions, but even the champions’ bench were raining in buckets. There were so many open looks, especially right under the rim. Bass and Kelly are an abomination in the paint together, no boxing out, no rim protection, free easy buckets. Somehow the Warriors got twice the amount of offensive boards despite the Lakers missing more shots. Kelly has definitely stepped up his offensive game to the point where he will be a useful stretch 4 or 5, but his defense is still porous at best.

So far only Hibbert has really shone for me in every game he has played, I’d hate to think what would happen if the Lakers lose him to this injury curse that Steve Nash brought.

This team is so far from the playoffs, but it’s also not even really in development mode, because Randle and DLo have barely had any consistent burn. It’s like being in limbo at the moment where Byron Scott knows he has to win to keep his job, the Lakers NEED to develop, but both things are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I wish there were a clear direction in place but I have not seen a single thing about Byron Scott that has impressed me other than his ability to lose games and make it look like they tried to win.

  • The main things I took away from that ugliness were: Pretty much outside of MWP, Hibbert and potentially A Brown the Lakers have no good defensive players. Some of them downright stink: Ryan Kelly, Huertas, Lou, Nick Young. Yes they played against the champions, but even the champions’ bench were raining in buckets. There were so many open looks, especially right under the rim. Bass and Kelly are an abomination in the paint together, no boxing out, no rim protection, free easy buckets. Somehow the Warriors got twice the amount of offensive boards despite the Lakers missing more shots. Kelly has definitely stepped up his offensive game to the point where he will be a useful stretch 4 or 5, but his defense is still porous at best.

    So far only Hibbert has really shone for me in every game he has played, I’d hate to think what would happen if the Lakers lose him to this injury curse that Steve Nash brought.

    This team is so far from the playoffs, but it’s also not even really in development mode, because Randle and DLo have barely had any consistent burn. It’s like being in limbo at the moment where Byron Scott knows he has to win to keep his job, the Lakers NEED to develop, but both things are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I wish there were a clear direction in place but I have not seen a single thing about Byron Scott that has impressed me other than his ability to lose games and make it look like they tried to win.

  • i think out not play clarkson in 6 weeks or 8 more recovery news on google

  • i think out not play clarkson in 6 weeks or 8 more recovery news on google

  • The take away is Scott has gotten nowhere with these guys. They still look lost on defense, and still have no offensive identity at all. They stand around, make one pass, and shoot.
    Whether it be a chuck from outside, or an out of control, one on one move to the basket, by a player that can NOT create their own shots.
    Are any of these young guys good? Who knows? They’re not being taught. Scott runs their azz off, but appears to be teaching them nothing.
    Another take away we can get, how the living he!! did they take Deangelo Russell with the 2nd pick. He looks like a late 2nd round, barely making the roster, bench player.

    The Lakers best players are a 37 year old that cant stay healthy, and a 32 year old rookie. At least he has some idea how to play basketball.
    This is going to be another long year.
    Byron Scott is not the answer guys.

  • The take away is Scott has gotten nowhere with these guys. They still look lost on defense, and still have no offensive identity at all. They stand around, make one pass, and shoot.
    Whether it be a chuck from outside, or an out of control, one on one move to the basket, by a player that can NOT create their own shots.
    Are any of these young guys good? Who knows? They’re not being taught. Scott runs their azz off, but appears to be teaching them nothing.
    Another take away we can get, how the living he!! did they take Deangelo Russell with the 2nd pick. He looks like a late 2nd round, barely making the roster, bench player.

    The Lakers best players are a 37 year old that cant stay healthy, and a 32 year old rookie. At least he has some idea how to play basketball.
    This is going to be another long year.
    Byron Scott is not the answer guys.

  • My take away: I see exactly what that turd Wesley J was talking about when he said guys have no clue about whats going on when playing for Byron Scott. I mean it’s the last pre season game and these guys look absolutely LOST. Brandon Bass and R Kelly on the floor…TOGETHER…wtf ? D’angelo and Clarkson both look hesitant and unsure of their roles, Nick and Lou are providing little in the way of a calming veteran presence, and WTF is B Scott’s problem with Tarik Black?

  • My take away: I see exactly what that turd Wesley J was talking about when he said guys have no clue about whats going on when playing for Byron Scott. I mean it’s the last pre season game and these guys look absolutely LOST. Brandon Bass and R Kelly on the floor…TOGETHER…wtf ? D’angelo and Clarkson both look hesitant and unsure of their roles, Nick and Lou are providing little in the way of a calming veteran presence, and WTF is B Scott’s problem with Tarik Black?

  • I’d throw in Nance and Black who can also play some defense. MWP has looked terrible for the most part on both ends

  • Every success this team is capable to achieve is credited solely to the players because BS philosophy on the offensive and most importantly defensive end is ‘figure it out’.

  • I’d throw in Nance and Black who can also play some defense. MWP has looked terrible for the most part on both ends

  • Every success this team is capable to achieve is credited solely to the players because BS philosophy on the offensive and most importantly defensive end is ‘figure it out’.

  • Russel looks like a joke with that hairstyle. If you’re not going to play well, at least get a decent haircut. Looks like a complete joke out there and he is playing awful

  • Russell looks like a joke with that hairstyle. If you’re not going to play well, at least get a decent haircut. Looks like a complete joke out there and he is playing awful

  • You nailed it man. Even though it was preseason we looked bad. I think the Warriors came out to send a message. Randle was talking smack saying “You can’t guard me” and that upset their guys. The starters played good minutes for them. We need to be humbled in order to rise again. We looked like DFenders playing an NBA team. I’m confident we’ll improve from last year but not much else.

  • You nailed it man. Even though it was preseason we looked bad. I think the Warriors came out to send a message. Randle was talking smack saying “You can’t guard me” and that upset their guys. The starters played good minutes for them. We need to be humbled in order to rise again. We looked like DFenders playing an NBA team. I’m confident we’ll improve from last year but not much else.

  • I felt Upshaw gave better rim protection than any of the bigs Byron should of given him more time to get his feet wet get he was a little nervous and made some mistakes but i think he would of done better than Sacre and Bass !!!

  • I felt Upshaw gave better rim protection than any of the bigs Byron should of given him more time to get his feet wet get he was a little nervous and made some mistakes but i think he would of done better than Sacre and Bass !!!

  • Scott’s rotations are amusing. Roy Hibbert makes a huge difference on the defensive end. Why not play him 30-35 mins along with all the other starters to help them get used to each other before opening day? That’s what all the teams are doing now for the last preseason game. I hope B Scott makes up his mind quickly on a starting unit (who will play Pg/SF?) and plays them 35 mins at least. It HELPS develop offensive chemistry

  • Scott’s rotations are amusing. Roy Hibbert makes a huge difference on the defensive end. Why not play him 30-35 mins along with all the other starters to help them get used to each other before opening day? That’s what all the teams are doing now for the last preseason game. I hope B Scott makes up his mind quickly on a starting unit (who will play Pg/SF?) and plays them 35 mins at least. It HELPS develop offensive chemistry

  • Depressing isnt it? I looked for any sign of improvement. Nope. Just same old Byron, folding his arms, shaking his head, with that smirk.
    Well, Byron, you’re just watching stupid basketball IQ out there. Who’s giving them this accomplish nothing game plan?
    They give up the 3, they give up the lay up.
    How about pick something and try to stop it? Jeez! Anything! Commit to something!

    Its the same philosophy as Dantoni. Which is nothing. No D, no O, just go out and make it up.

    And D Russell? Wtf is that? Forget comparing him to Magic! Hes not even close to Van Exel! Number 2 pick in the whole draft? Really?
    Ugh……….brutal.

  • Depressing isnt it? I looked for any sign of improvement. Nope. Just same old Byron, folding his arms, shaking his head, with that smirk.
    Well, Byron, you’re just watching stupid basketball IQ out there. Who’s giving them this accomplish nothing game plan?
    They give up the 3, they give up the lay up.
    How about pick something and try to stop it? Jeez! Anything! Commit to something!

    Its the same philosophy as Dantoni. Which is nothing. No D, no O, just go out and make it up.

    And D Russell? Wtf is that? Forget comparing him to Magic! Hes not even close to Van Exel! Number 2 pick in the whole draft? Really?
    Ugh……….brutal.

  • It’s sad that BS’s reputation is that he’s a defensive specialist. We already know he has a Stone Age offensive philosophy (no Pnr, no 3’s). But at least he should be coaching a good defense. As some point last night I was thinking we should just put five traffic cones on the court.

  • It’s sad that BS’s reputation is that he’s a defensive specialist. We already know he has a Stone Age offensive philosophy (no Pnr, no 3’s). But at least he should be coaching a good defense. As some point last night I was thinking we should just put five traffic cones on the court.

  • Reality check people this current team is nowhere near at least as decent as some here likes to predict

  • Reality check people this current team is nowhere near at least as decent as some here likes to predict

  • Roy has never averaged 30 min during a season and there is a reason for that. In the Utah game where he played 32 I thought he looked flat at the end. Was having a very good game until then.

  • Roy has never averaged 30 min during a season and there is a reason for that. In the Utah game where he played 32 I thought he looked flat at the end. Was having a very good game until then.

  • And he blame those kids instead of saying he lost his rotation is ducks ohh and he don’t know how to coach nothing

  • And he blame those kids instead of saying he lost his rotation is ducks ohh and he don’t know how to coach nothing

  • Here’s the developmental minutes in preseason being received by the top draft picks this year, Julius Randle, and some other point guards:
    Towns: 21.7 mpg (high 28 min)
    D’Angelo: 18.8 mpg (high 25 min)
    Randle: 21.3 mpg (high 28)
    Okafor: 18.5 mpg (high 20)
    Porzingis: 19.8 mpg (high 21)
    Mudiay: 29.2 mpg (high 33)
    WCS: 23.9 mpg (high 29)
    Stanley Johnson: 27.4 mpg (high 35)
    Kaminsky: 19.8 mpg (high 35)
    Winslow: 27.6 mpg (high 35)
    Tyus Jones: 19.6 mpg (high 25)
    Rozier: 21 mpg (high 28)
    J Grant: 21.3 mpg (high 28)

    As you can see the only player who has been given less burn than D’Angelo Russell (for the record I did not count the 4 minute game he played) is center Fatlil Okafor. Now even Randle has hardly been given an opportunity afforded by some other rookies in other teams. One can use a justification like ‘Dlo has been injured blah blah blah’ he bruised his glute, Fatlil Okafor and Porzingis have had far more serious injuries and are Centers.

    Some people seem to believe that Byron Scott is a good coach for developing youth, because they see what he did with two point guards who would have been that way regardless of the coach afforded them. Never mentioned is the countless young guys who Byron Scott failed to develop. Here Byron Scott has been given a very young team who need serious development, but how can they be developed if the only thing they seem to be doing is excessive running up and down the court in practice, and not even getting that burn in the games? Why exactly is D’Angelo Russell not getting 25-30 minutes a game consistently? How can you expect him to get confidence when he plays 12 minutes and sits for the next 24.

    Equally Randle appears to also not be given serious burn, some will argue here that he is on a “minutes restriction” lol why exactly? He broke his leg, he didn’t tear up a ligament, it’s been nearly a full 12 months now, when exactly does this so called “minutes restriction” end?

    My personal opinion is that Byron Scott, who was a great player, has no earthly idea what he is doing, has a vacant stare like he is daydreaming. His team looks lost on both ends of the floor. I think Byron Scott has lucked his way to a great point guard Jason Kidd who made his weak Eastern Conference Nets look like world beaters for a couple of seasons. He has then lucked into a reputation is a good coach, which afforded him the Hornets job, which he then rode to their worst franchise record and again lucked into another great point guard. A similar story with the Cavs, and now the Lakers. So he should be fired soon right? Just hopefully not before he can do some serious damage to these young guy’s careers.

  • Here’s the developmental minutes in preseason being received by the top draft picks this year, Julius Randle, and some other point guards:
    Towns: 21.7 mpg (high 28 min)
    D’Angelo: 18.8 mpg (high 25 min)
    Randle: 21.3 mpg (high 28)
    Okafor: 18.5 mpg (high 20)
    Porzingis: 19.8 mpg (high 21)
    Mudiay: 29.2 mpg (high 33)
    WCS: 23.9 mpg (high 29)
    Stanley Johnson: 27.4 mpg (high 35)
    Kaminsky: 19.8 mpg (high 35)
    Winslow: 27.6 mpg (high 35)
    Tyus Jones: 19.6 mpg (high 25)
    Rozier: 21 mpg (high 28)
    J Grant: 21.3 mpg (high 28)

    As you can see the only player who has been given less burn than D’Angelo Russell (for the record I did not count the 4 minute game he played) is center Fatlil Okafor. Now even Randle has hardly been given an opportunity afforded by some other rookies in other teams. One can use a justification like ‘Dlo has been injured blah blah blah’ he bruised his glute, Fatlil Okafor and Porzingis have had far more serious injuries and are Centers.

    Some people seem to believe that Byron Scott is a good coach for developing youth, because they see what he did with two point guards who would have been that way regardless of the coach afforded them. Never mentioned is the countless young guys who Byron Scott failed to develop. Here Byron Scott has been given a very young team who need serious development, but how can they be developed if the only thing they seem to be doing is excessive running up and down the court in practice, and not even getting that burn in the games? Why exactly is D’Angelo Russell not getting 25-30 minutes a game consistently? How can you expect him to get confidence when he plays 12 minutes and sits for the next 24.

    Equally Randle appears to also not be given serious burn, some will argue here that he is on a “minutes restriction” lol why exactly? He broke his leg, he didn’t tear up a ligament, it’s been nearly a full 12 months now, when exactly does this so called “minutes restriction” end?

    My personal opinion is that Byron Scott, who was a great player, has no earthly idea what he is doing, has a vacant stare like he is daydreaming. His team looks lost on both ends of the floor. I think Byron Scott has lucked his way to a great point guard Jason Kidd who made his weak Eastern Conference Nets look like world beaters for a couple of seasons. He has then lucked into a reputation is a good coach, which afforded him the Hornets job, which he then rode to their worst franchise record and again lucked into another great point guard. A similar story with the Cavs, and now the Lakers. So he should be fired soon right? Just hopefully not before he can do some serious damage to these young guy’s careers.

  • Excellent analysis and I completely agree. Unfortunately, Jim Buss will not fire him until the end of the year at the earliest Right now he’s the decision maker and he’s such a believer in the “Laker legacy” thing that he won’t fire BS.

  • Excellent analysis and I completely agree. Unfortunately, Jim Buss will not fire him until the end of the year at the earliest Right now he’s the decision maker and he’s such a believer in the “Laker legacy” thing that he won’t fire BS.

  • Right…. The only bright spot i did see was when he had Huertas,Young,Kelly,Upshaw and Parker they was feeding off on another and out playing the starters except Randall in that last G State game !!! Cant wait to Feb (the halfway mark) to see what Bywrong have to say about the team !!!

  • Right…. The only bright spot i did see was when he had Huertas,Young,Kelly,Upshaw and Parker they was feeding off on another and out playing the starters except Randall in that last G State game !!! Cant wait to Feb (the halfway mark) to see what Bywrong have to say about the team !!!

  • people around here are always trying to fire someone even after losing a (preseason)game to the champs lol

  • people around here are always trying to fire someone even after losing a (preseason)game to the champs lol

  • Why dont we just get a completely new roster to your liking Randy.
    Or why not find a completely new roster on another team.

    Sometimes what you post makes no sense.

    Yes the defense was not there, but you dont throw out the entire team for that.

    Awful game, no defense and poor offense from the perimeter.
    The Lakers tried to play the Warriors game instead of playing their inside 1st outside 2nd type of game.

  • Why dont we just get a completely new roster to your liking Randy.
    Or why not find a completely new roster on another team.

    Sometimes what you post makes no sense.

    Yes the defense was not there, but you dont throw out the entire team for that.

    Awful game, no defense and poor offense from the perimeter.
    The Lakers tried to play the Warriors game instead of playing their inside 1st outside 2nd type of game.

  • Whoa! Way to kill the optimistic spirit right before season tip off. The play of our beloved team was a total crime against humanity. We looked like drunk pre-schoolers out there. The most puzzling part was the apathy of Scott. Why not try to put Metta in at a way earlier stage, when the dude is known for changing the defensive attitude of the entire team? Hey, even your average basketball crowd recognized this (albeit a bit late) when they started chanting for him.

    Well, this certainly was a reality check but the good news are we ain’t this bad. We’ll have a bunch of these debacles due to the fact that we’re a completely new team with a bunch of rookie kids (and a clueless coach) but I’m quite sure we’ll see the other end of the spectrum aswell – and this is coming from a natural born pessimist.

  • Whoa! Way to kill the optimistic spirit right before season tip off. The play of our beloved team was a total crime against humanity. We looked like drunk pre-schoolers out there. The most puzzling part was the apathy of Scott. Why not try to put Metta in at a way earlier stage, when the dude is known for changing the defensive attitude of the entire team? Hey, even your average basketball crowd recognized this (albeit a bit late) when they started chanting for him.

    Well, this certainly was a reality check but the good news are we ain’t this bad. We’ll have a bunch of these debacles due to the fact that we’re a completely new team with a bunch of rookie kids (and a clueless coach) but I’m quite sure we’ll see the other end of the spectrum aswell – and this is coming from a natural born pessimist.

  • IDK…pretty much what I expected against the defending champs. Lakers have no answer for their backcourt. Few teams do, that’s why they’re the defending champs.

  • IDK…pretty much what I expected against the defending champs. Lakers have no answer for their backcourt. Few teams do, that’s why they’re the defending champs.

  • Metta should have been put in for his defensive inspiration to the rest of the team.

    Black should have been put in early to set the tone as well.

  • Metta should have been put in early for his defensive inspiration to the rest of the team.

    Black should have been put in early to set the tone as well.

  • Also have 4 key free agents to integrate (Huertas, Bass, Williams, Hibbert) and other new players to look at.

    I know it’s frustrating because the Lakers haven’t had a total rebuild in almost 20 years but that’s exactly what it is — a total rebuild. It’s not gonna be pretty.

  • Randle played well offensively so he backed up what he said about Green.

  • Also have 4 key free agents to integrate (Huertas, Bass, Williams, Hibbert) and other new players to look at.

    I know it’s frustrating because the Lakers haven’t had a total rebuild in almost 20 years but that’s exactly what it is — a total rebuild. It’s not gonna be pretty.

  • …yeah, DEFENSE to stop Golden State’s backcourt, which the Lakers simply don’t have yet.

  • …yeah, DEFENSE to stop Golden State’s backcourt, which the Lakers simply don’t have yet.

  • We DO have it, we have seen that.
    We didnt exercise it which is something totally different.

  • We DO have it, we have seen that.
    We didnt exercise it which is something totally different.

  • True but I think his comment started the fire. Just my opinion. They also had Klay and Iggy back. so that too… Preseason. I hope we play more defense this season

  • True but I think his comment started the fire. Just my opinion. They also had Klay and Iggy back. so that too… Preseason. I hope we play more defense this season

  • There is nothing to be excited about. This franchise is dreadful right
    now. Until Kobe retires and we get a new Front Office that doesn’t botch
    lottery picks as badly as they did this year, this team is going
    nowhere fast. This FO is delusional if they think Clarkson and Russell
    are going to become Curry and Thompson.

  • There is nothing to be excited about. This franchise is dreadful right
    now. Until Kobe retires and we get a new Front Office that doesn’t botch
    lottery picks as badly as they did this year, this team is going
    nowhere fast. This FO is delusional if they think Clarkson and Russell
    are going to become Curry and Thompson.

  • Lets earmark this page to reference all the so called fans that are ready to jump ship off of one game.

    These are the same fans that just a few days ago professed they were hardcore Lakers fans. Great optimism guys!!!

    Allot of you guys are ready to crucify Russell even though Russell played confident under all that pressure.

    I cant just see the posts from the haters if Kobe had stepped on the court for 1 minute. We would never hear the end of it. Well you Kobe haters got what you wanted. He didnt play, now what???

    This was a loss based on lack of TEAM defense, not lack of talent!!

    GO LAKERS!

  • Lets earmark this page to reference all the so called fans that are ready to jump ship off of one game.

    These are the same fans that just a few days ago professed they were hardcore Lakers fans. Great optimism guys!!!

    Allot of you guys are ready to crucify Russell even though Russell played confident under all that pressure.

    I can just see the posts from the haters if Kobe had stepped on the court for 1 minute. We would never hear the end of it. Well you Kobe haters got what you wanted. He didnt play, now what???

    This was a loss based on lack of TEAM defense, not lack of talent!!

    GO LAKERS!

  • Doesn’t matter who is the coach of the Lakers right now. There is no talent here. The fact that Lou Williams and Nick Young are on the same roster tells you just how lost this Front Office is.

  • Doesn’t matter who is the coach of the Lakers right now. There is no talent here. The fact that Lou Williams and Nick Young are on the same roster tells you just how lost this Front Office is.

  • Jerry West seems to think otherwise…

    On D’Angelo Russell:
    “I think he’s terrific,” West said.

    “He passes the ball like, oh my gosh,” West added.

    “He’s a heck of a player,” West said. ”People are going to enjoy him.”

    On the Lakers’ draft:
    “I think they did incredibly well in the draft,” he said.

  • Jerry West seems to think otherwise…

    On D’Angelo Russell:
    “I think he’s terrific,” West said.

    “He passes the ball like, oh my gosh,” West added.

    “He’s a heck of a player,” West said. ”People are going to enjoy him.”

    On the Lakers’ draft:
    “I think they did incredibly well in the draft,” he said.

  • You can’t rebuild with Kobe here. Sorry you can’t see that. Enjoy watching Lou Williams and Swaggy P on the same team.

  • You can’t rebuild with Kobe here. Sorry you can’t see that. Enjoy watching Lou Williams and Swaggy P on the same team.

  • I agree, but he backed it up. Thats exactly the confidence you want from Randle.

    Look, we embarrassed the Warriors last time. They were not going to sit back and let that happen again. They went back and watched film and did their homework. We were too relaxed.

    We somewhat shutdown Curry last time, we let him walk by this time. We played our inside game last time, we tried to duplicate their outside game this time. Our defense at the post was practically non existent when Hibbert was not on the court.

    Metta was not used wisely. Black was not used wisely.

  • I agree, but he backed it up. Thats exactly the confidence you want from Randle.

    Look, we embarrassed the Warriors last time. They were not going to sit back and let that happen again. They went back and watched film and did their homework. We were too relaxed.

    We somewhat shutdown Curry last time, we let him walk by this time. We played our inside game last time, we tried to duplicate their outside game this time. Our defense at the post was practically non existent when Hibbert was not on the court.

    Metta was not used wisely. Black was not used wisely.

  • So when he starts balling are you going stay quiet and leave this forum Randy?

    Why do you enjoy being a fan of a team whos players are, as you put it,
    “a complete joke”?

  • So when he starts balling are you going stay quiet and leave this forum Randy?

    Why do you enjoy being a fan of a team whos players are, as you put it,
    “a complete joke”?

  • You can’t rebuild with Kobe here?

    What is your solution given our options last year and this year?

  • You can’t rebuild with Kobe here?

    What is your solution given our options last year and this year?

  • So I guess we wont be seeing you here for a few years until we have something to be excited about again.

    That describes 80% of clippers fans way of thinking.

  • So I guess we wont be seeing you here for a few years until we have something to be excited about again.

    That describes 80% of clippers fans way of thinking.

  • We’re still fans, some of us are just disappointed in the fact that this is eerily similar to what was going on last year. Except that this year we aren’t trying to tank since we have no pick to really tank for.

    I’m not jumping ship. I watched 2 and a half quarters of the game last night and if that’s any indication, then it’s clear that I can’t sit through something like that again! And if it happens more and more, I will watch less and less.

    It doesn’t make me or anyone else less of a fan to sit there and cringe at what’s being displayed on the basketball court. It’s seriously hard to watch.

  • We’re still fans, some of us are just disappointed in the fact that this is eerily similar to what was going on last year. Except that this year we aren’t trying to tank since we have no pick to really tank for.

    I’m not jumping ship. I watched 2 and a half quarters of the game last night and if that’s any indication, then it’s clear that I can’t sit through something like that again! And if it happens more and more, I will watch less and less.

    It doesn’t make me or anyone else less of a fan to sit there and cringe at what’s being displayed on the basketball court. It’s seriously hard to watch.

  • Jerry West is a great talent evaluator BUT he is not perfect. If Jerry Buss had listened to him 8n 1980 we would have had Sydney Moncrief and probably zero titles in the 80s and who knows where Magic would have played for

  • We all hope he balls, but right now he isn’t balling and is looking like a bust. I hope he proves me and all the doubters wrong, but until then he’s a joke until he shows us otherwise.

  • Jerry West is a great talent evaluator BUT he is not perfect. If Jerry Buss had listened to him 8n 1980 we would have had Sydney Moncrief and probably zero titles in the 80s and who knows where Magic would have played for

  • We all hope he balls, but right now he isn’t balling and is looking like a bust. I hope he proves me and all the doubters wrong, but until then he’s a joke until he shows us otherwise.

  • How many games are left in the season LakeShooo?

    What percentage of the seasons games is yesterdays game?

    The season hasnt even started.

    I get it we are upset. Lets gather ourselves. The season starts next week.

  • How many games are left in the season LakeShooo?

    What percentage of the seasons games is yesterdays game?

    The season hasnt even started.

    I get it we are upset. Lets gather ourselves. The season starts next week.

  • Bad games happen. They had the Warriors number 2 games ago and now the Warriors got theirs. Even the best teams can get blown out badly. Even shots that were well defended the Warriors were making them. Yes the defense was porous, but when even the defended shots are going in, what can you do? The Warriors are the defending champs for a reason, still have pretty much their entire team intact and know how to play together. This Lakers team still needs to learn how to gel. This is what I expected during their previous outing against Golden State. GS has such a potent offense that they could just as well do this same thing to San Antonio for 1 game as well. It’s 1 game, a preseason game. The biggest thing we should worry ourselves about is Jordan Clarkson at this point.

    One bright side, the bench held it’s own to an extent against their bench. Their starters tore us a new one.

  • Bad games happen. They had the Warriors number 2 games ago and now the Warriors got theirs. Even the best teams can get blown out badly. Even shots that were well defended the Warriors were making them. Yes the defense was porous, but when even the defended shots are going in, what can you do? The Warriors are the defending champs for a reason, still have pretty much their entire team intact and know how to play together. This Lakers team still needs to learn how to gel. This is what I expected during their previous outing against Golden State. GS has such a potent offense that they could just as well do this same thing to San Antonio for 1 game as well. It’s 1 game, a preseason game. The biggest thing we should worry ourselves about is Jordan Clarkson at this point.

    One bright side, the bench held it’s own to an extent against their bench. Their starters tore us a new one.

  • I didn’t say I would stop watching the games in general. It’s the way they have been playing for the past 3 years and I’m sick of it. You can’t blame me for my pessimism, there’s nothing optimistic about this season.

  • I didn’t say I would stop watching the games in general. It’s the way they have been playing for the past 3 years and I’m sick of it. You can’t blame me for my pessimism, there’s nothing optimistic about this season.

  • Insanity, doing something over and over again and expecting a different result. Kobe is the past, the Lakers too, appear to be stuck in the past playing a brand of basketball akin to the late 80’s where long 2’s appear the staple, without any pick and roll, a whole bunch of ISO and little ball movement. There is absolutely no identity in the offense and there is so much help defense and scrambling that everyone ends up out of position. If Byron Scott is the answer, what exactly is the question? At least with Mike D’Antoni you got an offensive identity and minimal defense. With Byron you get a bunch of guys looking lost and playing hero ball on both ends.

  • 21 wins, bench-mark. 2015-2016 Lakers is Kobe’s Team. Would like Mamba to have patience with Rookies, not get frustrated – seems unlikely, but this is what is needed. Involve teammates – both O and D, get and needs “rim Protection – But above all things, “Kobe, don’t lose your temper”

  • Insanity, doing something over and over again and expecting a different result. Kobe is the past, the Lakers too, appear to be stuck in the past playing a brand of basketball akin to the late 80’s where long 2’s appear the staple, without any pick and roll, a whole bunch of ISO and little ball movement. There is absolutely no identity in the offense and there is so much help defense and scrambling that everyone ends up out of position. If Byron Scott is the answer, what exactly is the question? At least with Mike D’Antoni you got an offensive identity and minimal defense. With Byron you get a bunch of guys looking lost and playing hero ball on both ends.

  • 21 wins, bench-mark. 2015-2016 Lakers is Kobe’s Team. Would like Mamba to have patience with Rookies, not get frustrated – seems unlikely, but this is what is needed. Involve teammates – both O and D, get and needs “rim Protection – But above all things, “Kobe, don’t lose your temper”

  • Agree. We cant do anything about the well contested 3 pointers against a team like this but there was no excuse on the non contested, “i give up” type of defense.

    Last nights loss was not due to a lack of talent, it was due to non existent defense.

    Time to regroup, reflect, and re-energize!

  • Agree. We cant do anything about the well contested 3 pointers against a team like this but there was no excuse on the non contested, “i give up” type of defense.

    Last nights loss was not due to a lack of talent, it was due to non existent defense.

    Time to regroup, reflect, and re-energize!

  • Who do you think gets cut? Who do you think gets moved? Are you sold on Byron? I’ve been a fan since 96, watching Kobe begin his career and me starting 1st grade in school. I’m concerned he won’t get the last hoorah he deserves. This season will cut deep. Can we put together something?

  • Who do you think gets cut? Who do you think gets moved? Are you sold on Byron? I’ve been a fan since 96, watching Kobe begin his career and me starting 1st grade in school. I’m concerned he won’t get the last hoorah he deserves. This season will cut deep. Can we put together something?

  • 39…..and two guys that Jerry West liked lit them up for 47 points on 18/24 shooting (9/12 from the three).

  • 2/3 of the 82 games are against western teams and last games showed us a glimpse on what might happen when teams start to actually play serious ball and not pre season ball.some of you actually thinks this current team can win 40+ games? Lol

  • 39…..and two guys that Jerry West liked lit them up for 47 points on 18/24 shooting (9/12 from the three).

  • 2/3 of the 82 games are against western teams and last games showed us a glimpse on what might happen when teams start to actually play serious ball and not pre season ball.some of you actually thinks this current team can win 40+ games? Lol

  • Kobe is not even relevent in this conversation. Lets be more selective about what we analyze in yesterdays game because thats what has brought on this wave of disappointment.

    I couldnt disagree more with you regarding our style of play. I think we DID TRY to play “modern” small ball and that was what led to our loss.

    Last match-up we played harder defense which led to offensive opportunities. Last match-up we played OUR inside offensive game, yesterday we tried to challenge and out-due the reigning 3 point kings on the 3 point line. That made non sense.

    I get your view but it’s not justified. Maybe our intended plan just wasn’t executed properly, maybe next time it will?

    As a proud and passionate Lakers fan I’m disappointed too, but I’m not defeated!

    Its way too early to be sounding the alarm Patrick.

  • Kobe is not even relevent in this conversation. Lets be more selective about what we analyze in yesterdays game because thats what has brought on this wave of disappointment.

    I couldnt disagree more with you regarding our style of play. I think we DID TRY to play “modern” small ball and that was what led to our loss.

    Last match-up we played harder defense which led to offensive opportunities. Last match-up we played OUR inside offensive game, yesterday we tried to challenge and out-due the reigning 3 point kings on the 3 point line. That made no sense.

    I get your view but it’s not justified. Maybe our intended plan just wasn’t executed properly, maybe next time it will?

    As a proud and passionate Lakers fan I’m disappointed too, but I’m not defeated!

    Its way too early to be sounding the alarm Patrick.

  • 2 get to 40 + wins, u have to win – Lakers can beat ANY team in NBA, under the presumption that, “no NBA squad is unbeatable, all the time” – Just not sure without adequate 24/7 “Rim Protection”, Lakes are there Yet & can get this accomplished . . .

  • Huertas is in charge when hes on the floor. He gave them some ball movement for sure. He even gets his hands in the passing lanes defensively.
    Scary thought that hes going to be counted on so much. He doesnt seem to have much of a shot. Teams will sag off him, which will hurt his ability to penetrate. Unfortunately.

  • 2 get to 40 + wins, u have to win – Lakers can beat ANY team in NBA, under the presumption that, “no NBA squad is unbeatable, all the time” – Just not sure without adequate 24/7 “Rim Protection”, Lakes are there Yet & can get this accomplished . . .

  • Huertas is in charge when hes on the floor. He gave them some ball movement for sure. He even gets his hands in the passing lanes defensively.
    Scary thought that hes going to be counted on so much. He doesnt seem to have much of a shot. Teams will sag off him, which will hurt his ability to penetrate. Unfortunately.

  • Gee thanks. Thats what this remote is for. Huh, who’d a thunk it?

  • Gee thanks. Thats what this remote is for. Huh, who’d a thunk it?

  • Watching Kobe that long, I FEEL YOUR PAIN!

    I hate that we wasted his prime years by surrounding him with an inadequate roster. People love Gasol, but forget to praise Kobe for putting pressure on the FO to give him a decent center in order to win.

    Last two years Byron gets a pass from me due to lack of talent. I cant tell you what I feel about Byron until the end of this season.

    We have the talent! Last night we did NOT execute, we gave up! Very few players have that Kobe, never give up, mentality.

    Kobes presence alone boosts these kinds confidence. Hopefully all will follow him in that regard when hes gone.

  • Watching Kobe that long, I FEEL YOUR PAIN!

    I hate that we wasted his prime years by surrounding him with an inadequate roster. People love Gasol, but forget to praise Kobe for putting pressure on the FO to give him a decent center in order to win.

    Last two years Byron gets a pass from me due to lack of talent. I cant tell you what I feel about Byron until the end of this season.

    We have the talent! Last night we did NOT execute, we gave up! Very few players have that Kobe, never give up, mentality.

    Kobes presence alone boosts these kinds confidence. Hopefully all will follow him in that regard when hes gone.

  • Ill accept Huertas’ average individual offense for his superb team offensive play making any day.

    BTW you havent seen the best of him yet. Huertas CAN shoot very well in transition from the outside! Wait for it.

  • Maybe next time….insanity. This was the final preseason game, generally the game which most teams tend to play as an actual regular season game. The Lakers played their likely starting unit (minus Kobe), and their likely second unit. The most disappointing thing for me was just the lack of effort shown on defense, and Byron after seeing the matchups weren’t working did absolutely nothing to change things. A pattern he has shown throughout his Lakers tenure, unless the thing he wants changed, is a lead in the 4th quarter, then off comes Davis and on comes Sacre. I could have accepted/predicted a blowout loss but this was beyond a blowout, the game was over in the 26th minute.

  • Ill accept Huertas’ average individual offense for his superb team offensive play making any day.

    BTW you havent seen the best of him yet. Huertas CAN shoot very well in transition from the outside! Wait for it.

  • Maybe next time….insanity. This was the final preseason game, generally the game which most teams tend to play as an actual regular season game. The Lakers played their likely starting unit (minus Kobe), and their likely second unit. The most disappointing thing for me was just the lack of effort shown on defense, and Byron after seeing the matchups weren’t working did absolutely nothing to change things. A pattern he has shown throughout his Lakers tenure, unless the thing he wants changed, is a lead in the 4th quarter, then off comes Davis and on comes Sacre. I could have accepted/predicted a blowout loss but this was beyond a blowout, the game was over in the 26th minute.

  • Yup!

    And I’m not trying to be a sarcastic idiot, but Its not even the first real season game. I am not happy about yesterday either but lets not be so quick to judge the rest of the season by one preseason game.

  • I swear to you, I have that angry knot in my chest for exactly what you point out. No excuse for laxed defense!

    You are 100% right, there is NO excuse for NO defense. We cant play great defense 50 to 80% of the time and expect to win. Good defense must be played 100% of the time, especially with a team like GS.

    As far as the line up, I agree there was room to implement other choices. The most disappointing thing is that we could have made effective line up changes when we were close in the game early on. I have no answer to why that wasn’t done at that time.

    I want our team to win all too, hopefully we cant vent today and win next time.

  • I swear to you, I have that angry knot in my chest for exactly what you point out. No excuse for laxed defense!

    You are 100% right, there is NO excuse for NO defense. We cant play great defense 50 to 80% of the time and expect to win. Good defense must be played 100% of the time, especially with a team like GS.

    As far as the line up, I agree there was room to implement other choices. The most disappointing thing is that we could have made effective line up changes when we were close in the game early on. I have no answer to why that wasn’t done at that time.

    I want our team to win all too, hopefully we cant vent today and win next time.

  • And Swaggy P? Seriously. He is a dime a dozen streak shooter, period. Go away.

    Last night, at least twice, he completely ignored the switch. No interest in stopping a turtle.
    Same dude hes always been.

    A coach serious about changing the culture would sit his azz at the end of the bench right there and then. No defense, no play. Got it Swag?
    I mean the jokes on us that this guy gets millions to chuck up 30 footers, with a hand in his face, and shows no interest in defense.

    Take your smile, and your stupid jokes to the Queens where they’re used to losing.
    Where is the pride from the leadership in this organization?!

  • And Swaggy P? Seriously. He is a dime a dozen streak shooter, period. Go away.

    Last night, at least twice, he completely ignored the switch. No interest in stopping a turtle.
    Same dude hes always been.

    A coach serious about changing the culture would sit his azz at the end of the bench right there and then. No defense, no play. Got it Swag?
    I mean the jokes on us that this guy gets millions to chuck up 30 footers, with a hand in his face, and shows no interest in defense.

    Take your smile, and your stupid jokes to the Queens where they’re used to losing.
    Where is the pride from the leadership in this organization?!

  • Its hard to watch Russell play PG sometimes. Its like fitting a circle in a square peg, he doesn’t create any action. Just stands at the 3 point line and looks for passing lanes. Defender pressures him and he picks up his dribble or passes it off to a teammate. His speed is a handicap if he can’t use his handle to collapse the D.

    Out of the top 4 prospects I thought he was easily the worst, like an odd mix of Brandon Roy and Andre Miller. I wasn’t impressed. But he’s here now and I hope he can learn to play point, hope he develops because we can’t afford a bust. He has some tools, but hasn’t given us much to be excited about at all. Just have to wait and see, see if our scout knew what they were doing and Russell can learn how to run the floor like a PG.

  • Its hard to watch Russell play PG sometimes. Its like fitting a circle in a square peg, he doesn’t create any action. Just stands at the 3 point line and looks for passing lanes. Defender pressures him and he picks up his dribble or passes it off to a teammate. His speed is a handicap if he can’t use his handle to collapse the D.

    Out of the top 4 prospects I thought he was easily the worst, like an odd mix of Brandon Roy and Andre Miller. I wasn’t impressed. But he’s here now and I hope he can learn to play point, hope he develops because we can’t afford a bust. He has some tools, but hasn’t given us much to be excited about at all. Just have to wait and see, see if our scout knew what they were doing and Russell can learn how to run the floor like a PG.

  • Guys if we are ready to throw in the towel for one preseason game then we are just as bad as the players we are criticizing for giving up.

    Regular season starts next week. Hope we can get our momentum back.

  • Guys if we are ready to throw in the towel for one preseason game then we are just as bad as the players we are criticizing for giving up.

    Regular season starts next week. Hope we can get our momentum back.

  • Yeah man. Hope he comes back and inspires them. Hate to see him forcing things and screaming at people late in games.

  • Yeah man. Hope he comes back and inspires them. Hate to see him forcing things and screaming at people late in games.

  • Never an excuse for it. Problem also was I saw the Lakers team was so lost and scattered, they didn’t know their left from their right. The Warriors passing, man.

  • Never an excuse for it. Problem also was I saw the Lakers team was so lost and scattered, they didn’t know their left from their right. The Warriors passing, man.

  • Man, Ive followed them since Jerry West played guard. Ive been plenty patient. They’ve given us a lot of great years. They deserve some slack.
    But last years 21 wins was a disgrace. Getting the number 2 pick cant be a bust. Especially when you pass on a big man.
    Scott has not had a good resume without a Jason Kidd leading his team.
    What I see is more of the same since PJ left.
    Disarray.
    Lack of defensive effort.
    No accountability. That starts from go. Preseason or not.
    Lets you and I both hope theres something there we dont see.

  • Man, Ive followed them since Jerry West played guard. Ive been plenty patient. They’ve given us a lot of great years. They deserve some slack.
    But last years 21 wins was a disgrace. Getting the number 2 pick cant be a bust. Especially when you pass on a big man.
    Scott has not had a good resume without a Jason Kidd leading his team.
    What I see is more of the same since PJ left.
    Disarray.
    Lack of defensive effort.
    No accountability. That starts from go. Preseason or not.
    Lets you and I both hope theres something there we dont see.

  • Well he looked pretty good this preseason. An obvious difference when ge was on the floor.
    But I think hes got like a 4.8 ppg average for his career? I could be wrong on that. Thought I read it.
    Hes a plus though. No doubt.

  • Well he looked pretty good this preseason. An obvious difference when ge was on the floor.
    But I think hes got like a 4.8 ppg average for his career? I could be wrong on that. Thought I read it.
    Hes a plus though. No doubt.

  • Mitch really messed up on this pick. He’s going to take a long time to develop and LAL are not going to have the patience to wait. He’s going to be dumped like anthony bennett with nothing to show for it.

    I get it they didn’t believe Oakafor was the guy but they could have taken Zinger or traded down and picked several guys that filled needs like Mudiay, Winslow.

  • Mitch really messed up on this pick. He’s going to take a long time to develop and LAL are not going to have the patience to wait. He’s going to be dumped like anthony bennett with nothing to show for it.

    I get it they didn’t believe Oakafor was the guy but they could have taken Zinger or traded down and picked several guys that filled needs like Mudiay, Winslow.

  • Maybe it’s not the players, since most of all the players from last season have been let go and now this season the pattern seems to be the same, Byron looks confused and players are having a hard time learning his archaic systen, maybe the light bulb will go off that Byron is not the coach for this team, he just does not seem to be making much progress, ala last season !!!!!

  • Maybe it’s not the players, since most of all the players from last season have been let go and now this season the pattern seems to be the same, Byron looks confused and players are having a hard time learning his archaic systen, maybe the light bulb will go off that Byron is not the coach for this team, he just does not seem to be making much progress, ala last season !!!!!

  • “MITCH, JIM, JEANNIE, ATTENTION, THINK TOM TIBIDEAUX before he is taken by a team that wants defense & winning ways….
    Kelley, Sacre, Russell & Young packaged & moved out….

  • “MITCH, JIM, JEANNIE, ATTENTION, THINK TOM TIBIDEAUX before he is taken by a team that wants defense & winning ways….
    Kelley, Sacre, Russell & Young packaged & moved out….

  • Who do you think you are? Who are you to tell others how they should support their team? Stop trying to bully others into following your standards. We didnt ask for it and you surely didnt earn it or deserse such authority. Once again, who do you think you are?????

  • Who do you think you are? Who are you to tell others how they should support their team? Stop trying to bully others into following your standards. We didnt ask for it and you surely didnt earn it or deserse such authority. Once again, who do you think you are?????

  • Come on, be a man, admit it that you are a bully. FYI, if you go around calling other names, flagging them just because they are critical of the team; then you are a bully. A passionate and protective fan no doubt but still a BULLY!

  • Come on, be a man, admit it that you are a bully. FYI, if you go around calling other names, flagging them just because they are critical of the team; then you are a bully. A passionate and protective fan no doubt but still a BULLY!

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