Lakers Trending Up And Down: 2015-16 NBA Preseason Edition

The preseason has been a bit of a roller coaster thus far for the Los Angeles Lakers, with a couple of excellent team performances sandwiched between mediocre-to-poor showings. Still, Lakers fans have a lot to be excited about for the coming season with the youth movement in full swing. With six preseason games in the books, let’s take a look at which players are trending up and which are unfortunately trending down.

Julius Randle: We can’t say enough good things about the way Julius Randle has played during preseason. He was a little shaky in the first game against the Jazz, but since he found his rhythm, he has been incredible averaging 14.2 points, 5.3 rebounds, and 3.0 assists in just 22.6 minutes per game. One of the knocks on Randle heading into the 2014 NBA Draft was that he isn’t a rim protector, but his versatility and athleticism (his first-step is amazing) is more than making up for it. He is creating for teammates, pushing the ball in transition, scoring in the post, and playing solid defense.  He can even wreak havoc when he switches onto perimeter players, where he uses his length and quickness to force turnovers. Clearly the time he spent during the summer working with Metta World Peace is paying off.

Ryan Kelly: Last season was not kind to Ryan Kelly, and his status with the Lakers appeared to be shaky at best over the summer. With the Lakers bringing in similarly-skilled Jonathan Holmes and Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak hinting that players with guaranteed deals could still be waived, Kelly’s back was against the wall. If he didn’t turn in a better performance, he could find himself out of a job.

From what we have seen in preseason thus far,, Kelly has responded, playing with an intensity and aggressiveness that we hadn’t seen before. The surprising shot blocking from his rookie year is back (0.8 per game), and his three point shot is as deadly as ever (50 percent currently). However, what has been truly impressive is the way he is attacking the basket. He has developed a nifty pump-fake and drive move, knifing through the lane when defenders close out to take away the three point shot. Kelly isn’t going to be an All-Star, but to his credit, he has done enough to prove that he can be a valuable role player and deserves to keep his spot on the team.

Kobe Bryant: There are plenty of question marks surrounding Kobe Bryant’s 20th NBA season, including whether or not he can continue to play at a high level at 37 years old and if he can adjust to youthful teammates like Jordan Clarkson and D’Angelo Russell running the offense. So far, he has hit the mark on both counts.

Playing off the ball has allowed Bryant to find easier shots and as a result his field goal percentage has gone up to 44.7 percent, a massive increase from the cringe-worthy 37 percent he shot last season. He has also been a willing passer, dropping a number of highlight-level dimes and setting his teammates up for easy looks. Of course, his calf contusion was a disappointment, but thankfully it’s a minor injury that wouldn’t have sidelined him had the games counted for anything. He isn’t the Kobe of old, but what we have seen so far has to be considered a win.

Larry Nance Jr: He hasn’t gotten many minutes, but anytime you kill a man with a dunk you have to be trending up:

Marcelo Huertas: The 32-year-old rookie has been sidelined with a hamstring injury for much of the preseason, but has made the most of his limited minutes on the floor. He was extremely impressive against the Golden State Warriors, hitting teammates with slick passes (six assists in one quarter!) and connecting on a few Steve Nash-esque runners. While Huertas isn’t going to be a lock-down defender, he does appear to be perfectly suited to run a second unit featuring shooters like Nick Young, Lou Williams, and Ryan Kelly, and the way he passes the ball makes him a perfect mentor for D’Angelo Russell. If he continues to play like this, he is going to make the Lakers front office look very, very smart for bringing him on board.

Jabari Brown: Heading into training camp, it looked as though Jabari Brown would have a solid shot at making the team. As a teammate of Jordan Clarkson’s at Missouri, Brown spent most of last season lighting up the D-League, and then continued to get buckets when the Lakers injury woes allowed him to come up to the pro level. Unfortunately, with Lou Williams and Nick Young on the roster, the Lakers are stocked with wing scorers, which makes it hard to envision a role for Jabari. Making matters worse, he hasn’t had a strong preseason, shooting just 29 percent from the field. He has also has a tendency to get tunnel vision, blindly driving to the hoop and missing open teammates who have a better shot. That’s not to say that Brown can’t be a valuable player, but he has definitely struggled thus far and his spot on the team is tenuous at best.

Robert Sacre: From all reports, Robert Sacre is a good guy. He’s a massive human being, measuring seven-feet tall and weighing 270 pounds, which just so happens to help in the sport of basketball. He’s also a celebratory savant, and his sideline antics not only fire up the crowd but motivate his teammates as well. That said, the knock on Sacre is that he hasn’t improved much from his rookie season and as we head into his fourth year, that still appears to be the case. In Sacre’s defense, he has only played a total of 32 minutes thus far in the preseason, but it’s not clear whether he has done enough to warrant keeping him over the raw potential of Robert Upshaw.

D’Angelo Russell: Before someone throws something at me, let me preface this by saying that I think Russell is going to be a very good player. However, thus far, his play has been spotty at best. He is shooting a horrid 33.3 percent from the field and continues to look out of sync on offense. Russell is trying to squeeze highlight-worthy passes through areas that he probably shouldn’t, although his turnovers have dropped considerably since Summer League. It still feels as though he is constantly looking for the magical assist, hoping to live up to his hype as a distribution wizard rather than letting the game come to him. That said, he is a 19-year-old rookie and growing pains are to be expected. When the level of competition was lowered slightly against Maccabi Haifa, we saw Russell become magnificent, and it’s only a matter of time before his game grows enough to allow him to do the same at the pro level as well. For now though, let’s pump the brakes before anointing the next king of Los Angeles.

I think trending up should include Metta World Peace, simply because he has exceeded expectations. He’s working very hard, even sacrificing his body on a non-guaranteed contract, and his energy is infectious. He provides good defense on a team that sorely needs it. If he could find his shot somewhere, he’d be gold. But even still he is doing much better than most expected of him. After all, he was amnestied a couple years ago, and didn’t find a home in the NBA, so the expectation was that he was done. Guess what? He’s not done, and he’s going to make this team.

I’d also include Nick Young in the trending up category. During the summer, he was toast. So poor were his prospects that the Lakers couldn’t even find anyone to take his contract for essentially nothing in return. But he is showing that he can still score, and reports are that his attitude has improved substantially. I think he has a role on the team this year, which is a pleasant surprise.

I’d take Kobe off the trending up list. He hasn’t shown anything yet beyond the fact that he can still run the court and make open shots. His patented fadeaway is looking very anemic, and he gets barely any lift on it. He’s lost his killer first step. I’m not sure he needs to be doubled anymore. Maybe, but he hasn’t shown us yet. He has shown that he can still play, but not that he is better than the 93rd ranking that he was tagged with. Yet. Time will tell.

Trending down should also include Robert Upshaw. He hasn’t lived up to his hype. He certainly has not shown that he should have been a lottery pick. And up close and personal — I watched him from front row seats on the floor under the basket; close enough to touch him — he looked completely lost at times, and two steps behind the rest of the time. I hear the reports of him playing a “solid game” and such, but I certainly didn’t see it, and I was as close to him as many of the players were. He’s a project at best. I know this will enrage some posters, but I was disappointed in him. I really wanted him to show us good stuff, especially because I met him in Vegas during summer league and that made me root for him even harder. So far, at least, he hasn’t shown much on the court, and of course he still is confronting his demons off the court.

  • I think trending up should include Metta World Peace, simply because he has exceeded expectations. He’s working very hard, even sacrificing his body on a non-guaranteed contract, and his energy is infectious. He provides good defense on a team that sorely needs it. If he could find his shot somewhere, he’d be gold. But even still he is doing much better than most expected of him. After all, he was amnestied a couple years ago, and didn’t find a home in the NBA, so the expectation was that he was done. Guess what? He’s not done, and he’s going to make this team.

    I’d also include Nick Young in the trending up category. During the summer, he was toast. So poor were his prospects that the Lakers couldn’t even find anyone to take his contract for essentially nothing in return. But he is showing that he can still score, and reports are that his attitude has improved substantially. I think he has a role on the team this year, which is a pleasant surprise.

    I’d take Kobe off the trending up list. He hasn’t shown anything yet beyond the fact that he can still run the court and make open shots. His patented fadeaway is looking very anemic, and he gets barely any lift on it. He’s lost his killer first step. I’m not sure he needs to be doubled anymore. Maybe, but he hasn’t shown us yet. He has shown that he can still play, but not that he is better than the 93rd ranking that he was tagged with. Yet. Time will tell.

    Trending down should also include Robert Upshaw. He hasn’t lived up to his hype. He certainly has not shown that he should have been a lottery pick. And up close and personal — I watched him from front row seats on the floor under the basket; close enough to touch him — he looked completely lost at times, and two steps behind the rest of the time. I hear the reports of him playing a “solid game” and such, but I certainly didn’t see it, and I was as close to him as many of the players were. He’s a project at best. I know this will enrage some posters, but I was disappointed in him. I really wanted him to show us good stuff, especially because I met him in Vegas during summer league and that made me root for him even harder. So far, at least, he hasn’t shown much on the court, and of course he still is confronting his demons off the court.

  • I think trending up should include Metta World Peace, simply because he has exceeded expectations. He’s working very hard, even sacrificing his body on a non-guaranteed contract, and his energy is infectious. He provides good defense on a team that sorely needs it. If he could find his shot somewhere, he’d be gold. But even still he is doing much better than most expected of him. After all, he was amnestied a couple years ago, and didn’t find a home in the NBA, so the expectation was that he was done. Guess what? He’s not done, and he’s going to make this team.

    I’d also include Nick Young in the trending up category. During the summer, he was toast. So poor were his prospects that the Lakers couldn’t even find anyone to take his contract for essentially nothing in return. But he is showing that he can still score, and reports are that his attitude has improved substantially. I think he has a role on the team this year, which is a pleasant surprise.

    I’d take Kobe off the trending up list. He hasn’t shown anything yet beyond the fact that he can still run the court and make open shots. His patented fadeaway is looking very anemic, and he gets barely any lift on it. He’s lost his killer first step. I’m not sure he needs to be doubled anymore. Maybe, but he hasn’t shown us yet. He has shown that he can still play, but not that he is better than the 93rd ranking that he was tagged with. Yet. Time will tell.

    Trending down should also include Robert Upshaw. He hasn’t lived up to his hype. He certainly has not shown that he should have been a lottery pick. And up close and personal — I watched him from front row seats on the floor under the basket; close enough to touch him — he looked completely lost at times, and two steps behind the rest of the time. I hear the reports of him playing a “solid game” and such, but I certainly didn’t see it, and I was as close to him as many of the players were. He’s a project at best. I know this will enrage some posters, but I was disappointed in him. I really wanted him to show us good stuff, especially because I met him in Vegas during summer league and that made me root for him even harder. So far, at least, he hasn’t shown much on the court, and of course he still is confronting his demons off the court.

  • julius destroys one of thee elite defensive players in the league(draymon green)for the second time in preseason. green was probably the best defensive player in last years finals and randle destroys him as if he weren’t even standing there

  • julius destroys one of thee elite defensive players in the league(draymon green)for the second time in preseason. green was probably the best defensive player in last years finals and randle destroys him, its as if he weren’t even standing there

  • Man I am dreading the cuts !!!! If we round up the 15 with Upshaw , Huertas , Black , and J Brown that means MWP , Holmes , Frazier and Sacre will be cut !!! Holmes and Frazier young , good shooters and full of potential , the Panda man a vet , mentor and good bully defender and big Rob a great teammate and a good third string ! Lakes should lobby the NBA t allow rights on at least some of their own D-League players like baseball !!!!!!!! Hate to lose these guys !!!!!!

  • Man I am dreading the cuts !!!! If we round up the 15 with Upshaw , Huertas , Black and J Brown that means MWP , Holmes , Frazier and Sacre will be cut !!! Holmes and Frazier young , good shooters and full of potential , the Panda man a vet , mentor and good bully defender and big Rob a great teammate and a good third string ! Lakes should lobby the NBA to allow rights on at least some of their own D-League players like baseball !!!!!!!! Hate to lose these guys !!!!!!

  • Lets kill the Blazers today. I expect a great game by Randle. Nobody in their team can guard him.

  • Lets kill the Blazers today. I expect a great game by Randle. Nobody in their team can guard him.

  • COULDN’T DISAGREE MORE on your assessment of Kobe. Kobe has been the initial, continual, consistent spark on this team.

    Agree with you about Nick Young and definitely agree with you about Metta’s worth on the court, on the bench, and in the locker room!

  • COULDN’T DISAGREE MORE on your assessment of Kobe. Kobe has been the initial, continual, consistent spark on this team.

    Agree with you about Nick Young and definitely agree with you about Metta’s worth on the court, on the bench, and in the locker room!

  • For all those idiots criticizing Randles unorthodox style of play, guess what, this is what makes Randle hard to defend!!!

    Now what!

  • For all those idiots criticizing Randles unorthodox style of play, guess what, this is what makes Randle hard to defend!!!

    Now what!

  • steph curry kinda dissed DLO at the end of the game the other day, i hope this motivates russell and has a good game against him in our last preseason game

  • steph curry kinda dissed DLO at the end of the game the other day, i hope this motivates russell and has a good game against him in our last preseason game

  • I hope so.

    Lets keep the momentum up!

    GO KOBE!
    GO RUSSELL!
    GO CLARKSON!
    GO RANDLE!
    GO HUERTAS!
    GO HIBBERT!

    GOOOOO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!

  • I hope so.

    Lets keep the momentum up!

    GO KOBE!
    GO RUSSELL!
    GO CLARKSON!
    GO RANDLE!
    GO HUERTAS!
    GO HIBBERT!

    GOOOOO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!

  • Everyone is praising Randle, myself obviously included, as we should, but lets not forget Randle and also Clarkson both have a years advantage in the league over Russell.

    Russell is amazing, HE WILL BREAKOUT, and when he does watch out NBA!

  • Everyone is praising Randle, myself obviously included, as we should, but lets not forget Randle and Clarkson both have a years advantage in the league over Russell.

    Russell is amazing. HE WILL BREAKOUT, and when he does watch out NBA!

  • Absolutely he does but still liked the guy but not enough for a roster spot , the major losses will be Frazier and Holmes someone will definitely sign Frazier right away since I heard that he is shooting lights out in practice .

  • Absolutely he does but still liked the guy but not enough for a roster spot , the major losses will be Frazier and Holmes someone will definitely sign Frazier right away since I heard that he is shooting lights out in practice .

  • he didn’t say anything but DLO looks up to him and when they shook hands after the game DLO was going to hug him and say something to him and steph just turned away

  • Well. We have too many young guys. In my eyes Metta is more valuabe to the team right now, because of his “new spirit”, and his experience about the game.

  • he didn’t say anything but DLO looks up to him and when they shook hands after the game DLO was going to hug him and say something to him and steph just turned away

  • Well. We have too many young guys. In my eyes Metta is more valuabe to the team right now, because of his “new spirit”, and his experience about the game.

  • Steph is a competitive guy. He is that type of person. He not even hug Lebron with pasion in the finals. He’s like Kobe in the old times

  • Steph is a competitive guy. He is that type of person. He not even hug Lebron with pasion in the finals. He’s like Kobe in the old times

  • look. To me this is a fair call

    D’angelo / Huertas
    Clarkson / Lou / A. Brown
    Kobe / Nick / MWP
    Randle / Bass / Kelly / Nance
    Hibbert / Black / Upshaw

  • That was not cool of Steph, he doesnt get a pass for that.

    Russell you have someone better to look up to on PG skills right on your team. Allow me to introduce you to Marcelinho Huertas!!!

  • look. To me this is a fair call

    D’angelo / Huertas
    Clarkson / Lou / A. Brown
    Kobe / Nick / MWP
    Randle / Bass / Kelly / Nance
    Hibbert / Black / Upshaw

  • That was not cool of Steph, he doesnt get a pass for that.

    Russell you have someone better to look up to on PG skills right on your team. Allow me to introduce you to Marcelinho Huertas!!!

  • 20 yrs. old and led the D-league in scoring last year not to mention JC’s 2 years teammate and roommate in college . I would love to keep MWP but honestly we know that we won’t be competing for a title so is it worth loosing a potential Monte Ellis for a years rental at 35 ?

  • 20 yrs. old and led the D-league in scoring last year not to mention JC’s 2 years teammate and roommate in college . I would love to keep MWP but honestly we know that we won’t be competing for a title so is it worth loosing a potential Monte Ellis for a years rental at 35 ?

  • Thats what I think too, but people were upset and labeling me a fanboy for thinking Randle can be better than Wiggins. No lie.

  • Thats what I think too, but people were upset and labeling me a fanboy for thinking Randle can be better than Wiggins. No lie.

  • No way, man. Bass is a solid veteran and we signed him in this Free Agency. We can trade him in dezember, but he will stay until that.

  • No way, man. Bass is a solid veteran and we signed him in this Free Agency. We can trade him in dezember, but he will stay until that.

  • Huertas is a treasure chest of knowledge and experience for Russell.

    Russell is in a good spot.

  • The problem with Russel is his body. He has to develop his body like Randle and Clarkson did. He’s too slow, too weak right now. After that, he will be fine

  • Huertas is a treasure chest of knowledge and experience for Russell.

    Russell is in a good spot with the GREATEST organization on the planet…LAKERS!

  • The problem with Russel is his body. He has to develop his body like Randle and Clarkson did. He’s too slow, too weak right now. After that, he will be fine

  • ESPN is just fabulous: on the same article, the columnist tries to convince the reader that the Lakers are possibly doomed because our only assets are basically two unproven young players in Russel and Randle.. Only to add on the following paragraph that our potential downfall may come from the fact that we are likely to get no first round picks for the next three years?! How and why should it be a concern when we have at least five young players to groom?!

  • ESPN is just fabulous: on the same article, the columnist tries to convince the reader that the Lakers are possibly doomed because our only assets are basically two unproven young players in Russel and Randle.. Only to add on the following paragraph that our potential downfall may come from the fact that we are likely to get no first round picks for the next three years?! How and why should it be a concern when we have at least five young players to groom, including two possible stars?!

  • No need to cut him, keep them both.

    Byron hasnt played Bass as much becuase Byron is already convinced of what Bass can do. Bass is already a lock.

  • To me his better, man. Randle can do more things on the court. Wiggins in my eyes still too raw in terms of skillset. He is athletic, great defender, can spot up. But that’s it.
    Randle is a amazing point foward, is athletic, strong, has some post moves right now, and seems developing his shot a bit. His mecanic is good, he will even shot threes in the prime of his carrer.

  • No need to cut him, keep them both.

    Byron hasnt played Bass as much becuase Byron is already convinced of what Bass can do. Bass is already a lock.

  • To me he is better, man. Randle can do more things on the court. Wiggins in my eyes still too raw in terms of skillset. He is athletic, great defender, can spot up. But that’s it.
    Randle is a amazing point foward, is athletic, strong, has some post moves right now, and seems developing his shot a bit. His mecanic is good, he will even shot threes in the prime of his carrer.

  • We have a 6-man of the year in Lou for scoring off the bench plus we need more Veteran experience plus DEFENSE out of MWP at the SF position which he is showing. Scoring is not problem. Clarkson doing alot better at scoring anyway than his former roommate and college teammate. Plus we have Russell who was the leading scorer last year in college. You would think once he gets more NBA experience he would be wayy better than J.Brown.

  • We have a 6-man of the year in Lou for scoring off the bench plus we need more Veteran experience plus DEFENSE out of MWP at the SF position which he is showing. Scoring is not problem. Clarkson doing alot better at scoring anyway than his former roommate and college teammate. Plus we have Russell who was the leading scorer last year in college. You would think once he gets more NBA experience he would be wayy better than J.Brown.

  • To me Randle is better than Wiggins, man. Randle can do more things on the court. Wiggins in my eyes still too raw in terms of skillset. He is athletic, great defender, can spot up. But that’s it.
    Randle is a amazing point foward, is athletic, strong, has some post moves right now, and seems developing his shot a bit. His mecanic is good, he will even shot threes in the prime of his carrer.

  • To me Randle is better than Wiggins, man. Randle can do more things on the court. Wiggins in my eyes still too raw in terms of skillset. He is athletic, great defender, can spot up. But that’s it.
    Randle is a amazing point foward, is athletic, strong, has some post moves right now, and seems developing his shot a bit. His mecanic is good, he will even shot threes in the prime of his carrer.

  • Yup but trying to change your body is kind of too late. The season about to start. I expect him to be working body more next offseason hopefully……

  • Yup but trying to change your body is kind of too late. The season about to start. I expect him to be working body more next offseason hopefully……

  • let him play of the bench some minutes. We can’t sacrifice our season because of his development. I love Russel. I pray for us draft him, but he’s clearly not ready. Let Huertas and Clarkson play the major minutes.

  • let him play of the bench some minutes. We can’t sacrifice our season because of his development. I love Russel. I pray for us draft him, but he’s clearly not ready. Let Huertas and Clarkson play the major minutes.

  • Nobody except AD and Kawhi can guard Randle in this league right now. Mark my words

  • True, but we dont need them all on the court at the same time.

    And in a small ball game PF are the key to defense and offense, in my opinion.

    Bass can play center in a small ball game.

  • Nobody except AD and Kawhi can guard Randle in this league right now. Mark my words

  • True, but we dont need them all on the court at the same time.

    And in a small ball game PF are the key to defense and offense, in my opinion.

    Bass can play center in a small ball game.

  • I kind of see what they are saying. We gave up our future for a championship with Nash and D12. We desperately need Russell, Randle etc to pan out. A lot of teams can have players bust and not worry because there is always the next rookie, but we do not have that luxury, we need this to happen.
    Although, that said, I expect Randle and Russell to pan out.

  • Me too. But Byron will start him early in the season. A huge mistake in my eyes

  • I kind of see what they are saying. We gave up our future for a championship with Nash and D12. We desperately need Russell, Randle etc to pan out. A lot of teams can have players bust and not worry because there is always the next rookie, but we do not have that luxury, we need this to happen.
    Although, that said, I expect Randle and Russell to pan out.

  • Me too. But Byron will start him early in the season. A huge mistake in my eyes

  • I don’t think you read what DANA said about KOBE , ITS quite different then what you said, read again I could be the one that missed something. I do agree with DANA .

  • Yeah I agree 100%. We can keep them both, just like we can keep both Louis and Nicholas.

    Double up.

  • Its funny how the Kings tried to put Rudy Gay on Randle lol. Randle too big(muscle) for him

  • I don’t think you read what DANA said about KOBE , ITS quite different then what you said, read again I could be the one that missed something. I do agree with DANA .

  • Yeah I agree 100%. We can keep them both, just like we can keep both Louis and Nicholas.

    Double up.

  • Its funny how the Kings tried to put Rudy Gay on Randle lol. Randle too big(muscle) for him

  • Randle pan out already. And if Russel turn in a bust i will not be that mad. We still Clarkson, he’s way better than his draft position. So, we still in good shape

  • Randle pan out already. And if Russel turn in a bust i will not be that mad. We still Clarkson, he’s way better than his draft position. So, we still in good shape

  • And we wont really know that for sure untill we see how far Randles game takes him. Randle keeps impressing game over game, finding the right spot, making plays, mid range shooting, defense, etc.

    Randle is a natural.

  • And we wont really know that for sure untill we see how far Randles game takes him. Randle keeps impressing game over game, finding the right spot, making plays, mid range shooting, defense, etc.

    Randle is a natural.

  • Yeah. My only problem with him is his short arms on defense side of the floor. He can’t block a lot of shots because of that.

  • Trade for a piece or pick for the future first(just saying if Russell do turn into a bust)

  • Clarkson is 4 years older than Russell. Would you be happy if Russell was performing like Clarkson in 4 years time?

  • Yeah. My only problem with him is his short arms on defense side of the floor. He can’t block a lot of shots because of that.

  • Trade for a piece or pick for the future first(just saying if Russell do turn into a bust)

  • Clarkson is 4 years older than Russell. Would you be happy if Russell was performing like Clarkson in 4 years time?

  • No, i will not. I’m not saying Russel will be a bust. I really don’t think so. His only problem is his body is not NBA ready. But i’m thinking cenarios IF he turns a bust.

  • He will be hard to trade if he is indeed a bust. Top 2 picks get large contracts.

  • No, i will not. I’m not saying Russel will be a bust. I really don’t think so. His only problem is his body is not NBA ready. But i’m thinking cenarios IF he turns a bust.

  • He will be hard to trade if he is indeed a bust. Top 2 picks get large contracts.

  • Well you know Clarkson was drafted in the 2nd round from a low-school while Russell drafted 2nd overall in the first from a big school. Clarkson is just one year more experienced than Russell is all.

  • I was more referring to Clarkson. Is he really playing at such a high level considering his age?

  • Well you know Clarkson was drafted in the 2nd round from a low-school while Russell drafted 2nd overall in the first from a big school. Clarkson is just one year more experienced than Russell is all.

  • I was more referring to Clarkson. Is he really playing at such a high level considering his age?

  • To me yes. He’s already a solid player in my eyes. He will never be a allstar, man. But i’m really happy with his game right now

  • To me yes. He’s already a solid player in my eyes. He will never be a allstar, man. But i’m really happy with his game right now

  • He is playing well. But I am not sure he will ever be a starter for a good team. Although his growth over the past two years shows that maybe he is just a late bloomer. I hope so!

  • To me I think he will be a all-star. Dude plays like he knows what he is doing and once Kobe retires(hopefully not yet) he should get more touches. Remember we have a lot of ball dominate guards right now.

  • He is playing well. But I am not sure he will ever be a starter for a good team. Although his growth over the past two years shows that maybe he is just a late bloomer. I hope so!

  • To me I think he will be a all-star. Dude plays like he knows what he is doing and once Kobe retires(hopefully not yet) he should get more touches. Remember we have a lot of ball dominate guards right now.

  • He does not have short arms, he just has an unproportianately large body.

    He has a nice reach. Have you not seem him constantly out-rebounding centers in the past 5 preseason games?

  • He does not have short arms, he just has an unproportianately large body, which I believe will balance out once he stops growing.

    He has a nice reach. Have you not seem him constantly out-rebounding centers in the past 5 preseason games?

  • He can be a starter right now for a contender, no doubt. JJ Redick is the starter of Clippers, Shumpert is the starter for the Cavs… The list goes on.
    He can’t be the one or the two prime options, but he can play with better players for sure

  • He can be a starter right now for a contender, no doubt. JJ Redick is the starter of Clippers, Shumpert is the starter for the Cavs… The list goes on.
    He can’t be the one or the two prime options, but he can play with better players for sure

  • Yeah. But the rebouding is more because of his strong body. He box out other players and jump high. But he don’t has the lenght to be a shot blocker (to me, i respect other opinions). His wingspan is average.

  • Yeah. But the rebouding is more because of his strong body. He box out other players and jump high. But he don’t has the lenght to be a shot blocker (to me, i respect other opinions). His wingspan is average.

  • Redick is one of the best shooters in the league. Shumpert is a premiere defender. I don’t think he is at their level as a role player. Those guys thrive because they have very specific roles. Not sure what Clarkson specializes at.. not yet anyhow.

  • Redick is one of the best shooters in the league. Shumpert is a premiere defender. I don’t think he is at their level as a role player. Those guys thrive because they have very specific roles. Not sure what Clarkson specializes at.. not yet anyhow.

  • Think about. IF Randle be great as he seems to be. Russel pans out and be a great PG with a consistency three point shot. We sign Durant, and keep Hibbert.
    I don’t mind if Clarkson start. He can be a force off the ball, because he will not get too much attention for the other guys.
    Can’t we agree with that?

  • Think about. IF Randle be great as he seems to be. Russel pans out and be a great PG with a consistency three point shot. We sign Durant, and keep Hibbert.
    I don’t mind if Clarkson start. He can be a force off the ball, because he will not get too much attention for the other guys.
    Can’t we agree with that?

  • I think he can develop into that, I hope. Yes. Today he isn’t that guy but hopefully one day he will be!

  • I think he can develop into that, I hope. Yes. Today he isn’t that guy but hopefully one day he will be!

  • I read it, she said hes not trending up.

    From 37% to 44% efficiency , I say thats trending up Al.

  • Sure but we’re not the Sixers! I mean, we’re not going to wait forever until one of our rookies finally turn out to be a star?!
    Plus, Russel and Randle have undeniable potential so…

  • I read it, she said hes not trending up.

    Unless I missed something. No disrespect to Dana, we usually agree almost 100% of the time.

    From 37% to 44% efficiency , I say thats trending up Al.

  • Sure but we’re not the Sixers! I mean, we’re not going to wait forever until one of our rookies finally turn out to be a star?!
    Plus, Russel and Randle have undeniable potential so…

  • Its not so much that, its transition to the NBA level and conditioning.

    It will come with time.

    Randle and Clarkson are older and of coarse have a more developed and conditioned body.

  • Its not so much that, its transition to the NBA level and conditioning.

    It will come with time.

    Randle and Clarkson are older and of coarse have a more developed and conditioned body.

  • Randle does. Russell is a big gamble. The knock on him was that he didn’t perform against the best talent in college. And now he is facing it every day in the NBA and still struggling. I think he will figure it out, I really hope so but as of today I would be lying if I said I wasn’t worried.

  • Randle does. Russell is a big gamble. The knock on him was that he didn’t perform against the best talent in college. And now he is facing it every day in the NBA and still struggling. I think he will figure it out, I really hope so but as of today I would be lying if I said I wasn’t worried.

  • I could not find pre-season stats, but I would not believe that those stats are correct, where did you find them, I am not down grading KOBE but he has fallen down from what he was, and there are good reasons for that , missing so many games does not help, but the rest time is costing him and the team from playing together hurts when he is in one game then miss a few, I wish him well but from what he has shone is not all that great.

  • I could not find pre-season stats, but I would not believe that those stats are correct, where did you find them, I am not down grading KOBE but he has fallen down from what he was, and there are good reasons for that , missing so many games does not help, but the rest time is costing him and the team from playing together hurts when he is in one game then miss a few, I wish him well but from what he has shone is not all that great.

  • Russel may never become a dominant point guard but his passing skills and unselfishness should be enough to attract elite players and not make him a bust.

  • Russel may never become a dominant point guard but his passing skills and unselfishness should be enough to attract elite players and not make him a bust.

  • Tonight will be our biggest TEST this pre-season, we will know more later– good luck LAKERS – put it all together.

  • Tonight will be our biggest TEST this pre-season, we will know more later– good luck LAKERS – put it all together.

  • They are in the article according to the author Al.

    But besides the stats, Kobe is producing allot more per minute than before. 13 to 14 points in 22 minutes is great in my book and compared to last year, its night and day.

    Unless you are only comparing preseason games, in which case I would not give that much weight to game 4 because its obvious Kobe was distracted by hearing of Lamar Odom’s condition.

  • They are in the article according to the author Al.

    But besides the stats, Kobe is producing allot more per minute than before. 13 to 14 points in 22 minutes is great in my book and compared to last year, its night and day.

    Unless you are only comparing preseason games, in which case I would not give that much weight to game 4 because its obvious Kobe was distracted by hearing of Lamar Odom’s condition.

  • What’s wrong with Clarkson? The kid proved that he can score (in the last game he had a “quiet” night going 7 out of 9 from the field!) and could be this kind of solid starter who thinks team first. I mean, we don’t need a super star in every position.

  • Dshow is a nice guy. You can tell.

    I wish someone would grab him and tell him to stop looking up to players like Curry and Kobe and start challenging them

  • What’s wrong with Clarkson? The kid proved that he can score (in the last game he had a “quiet” night going 7 out of 9 from the field!) and could be this kind of solid starter who thinks team first. I mean, we don’t need a super star in every position.

  • Dshow is a nice guy. You can tell.

    I wish someone would grab him and tell him to stop looking up to players like Curry and Kobe and start challenging them

  • I don’t see it with Ryan Kelly. To me, he’s a one-trick pony that isn’t all that dependable with that one trick. Strictly a spot up shooter and is too clumsy and uncoordinated to do anything else well. All he’s gonna do is make Laker fans mad if he gets in the real games. I don’t look at percentages, I watch the games. What matters is timeliness when hitting shots. Derek Fisher never shot what might be considered a good percentage but seemingly always made the important ones at the right time. That’s what I hated about Wes Johnson. He would never make shots when they mattered early on but might make a couple when Lakers were down by 16 because fools like him couldn’t make them when the game is close lol.

  • I don’t see it with Ryan Kelly. To me, he’s a one-trick pony that isn’t all that dependable with that one trick. Strictly a spot up shooter and is too clumsy and uncoordinated to do anything else well. All he’s gonna do is make Laker fans mad if he gets in the real games. I don’t look at percentages, I watch the games. What matters is timeliness when hitting shots. Derek Fisher never shot what might be considered a good percentage but seemingly always made the important ones at the right time. That’s what I hated about Wes Johnson. He would never make shots when they mattered early on but might make a couple when Lakers were down by 16 because fools like him couldn’t make them when the game is close lol.

  • IIts OK for him to admire especially when hes playing with a legend next to him.

    But like Drake says:
    Know your worth …….

  • IIts OK for him to admire especially when hes playing with a legend next to him.

    But like Drake says:
    Know your worth …….

  • Pre-season games do mean a lot some of these guys are waiting to play so they can be a LAKER, and playing together is how you start getting rhythm with other players, it has been proven right here with the LAKERS, they are looking better every game.

  • Pre-season games do mean a lot some of these guys are waiting to play so they can be a LAKER, and playing together is how you start getting rhythm with other players, it has been proven right here with the LAKERS, they are looking better every game.

  • Heres the IF about Kelly for me.

    The only IF is IF Kelly can CONSISTENTLY play like this. IF Kelly is only playing like this from the pressure of being cut/traded than what happens IF he makes the team.

    IF he keeps this up, then yes he deserves to be kept.

  • Heres the big IF about Kelly for me.

    The only IF is IF Kelly can CONSISTENTLY play like this. IF Kelly is only playing like this from the pressure of being cut/traded than what happens IF he makes or remains on the final roster.

    Kelly has always seemed to play clumsy as you said, uncoordinated, and lacking confidence, but totally the OPPOSITE this preseason.

    IF he keeps this up, then yes he deserves praise and to be kept.

  • He has some potential. Is more agily than he seems. Has long arms. Good size. Is a underrated passer, can shot a bit. If he can shot the ball with consistency and can rebound the ball ok, he worth the keep.

  • relax about d’angelo russell, c’mon man, his just a rookie, and this is his first nba game. i ask you this, how long when s. curry, c. paul, k. irving so on and so fort, reached the way they are right now? 2-3 years?
    so, give d’loading a break. relax and chill.
    if you are really a lakers fan, support the kid and stop putting him down.

  • He has some potential. Is more agily than he seems. Has long arms. Good size. Is a underrated passer, can shot a bit. If he can shot the ball with consistency and can rebound the ball ok, he worth the keep.

  • relax about d’angelo russell, c’mon man, his just a rookie, and this is his first nba game. i ask you this, how long when s. curry, c. paul, k. irving so on and so fort, reached the way they are right now? 2-3 years?
    so, give d’loading a break. relax and chill.
    if you are really a lakers fan, support the kid and stop putting him down.

  • I’m not putting him dow. I love the kid, i pray for us draft him. But he’s not ready. He’s body is way too weak to play in the NBA. Put him in a lot of minutes will not help us and even help him.
    He has to play minor minutes and grown as athlete just like Clarkson and Randle did this offseason

  • I’m not putting him dow. I love the kid, i pray for us draft him. But he’s not ready. He’s body is way too weak to play in the NBA. Put him in a lot of minutes will not help us and even help him.
    He has to play minor minutes and grown as athlete just like Clarkson and Randle did this offseason

  • that’s how you (they) develop a player/their game… you can’t develop a player just letting them sit and watch the game.

  • that’s how you (they) develop a player/their game… you can’t develop a player just letting them sit and watch the game.

  • His problem is not develop gain playing time. His problem is his body. He can develop that in weight room.

  • His problem is not develop gain playing time. His problem is his body. He can develop that in weight room.

  • Metta has been playing every game like it’s his last. The opponents sure won’t sacrifice their bodies on preseason games… So it’s hard to jump into the conclusion that he should make the team based on that energy.

    I agree with you when it comes to Young.

    As for Kobe, I hope that coaches share your point of view and decide to stop double teaming him… That could be fun to watch cause I’m sure from what I’ve seen from him thus far (the guy is fit and ready) that Kobe can score 30 in 25 minutes on a good night with only one defender to guard him.

    Now we all knew that Upshaw would be a long term project so why assess him now?

  • Metta has been playing every game like it’s his last. The opponents sure won’t sacrifice their bodies on preseason games… So it’s hard to jump into the conclusion that he should make the team based on that energy.

    I agree with you when it comes to Young.

    As for Kobe, I hope that coaches share your point of view and decide to stop double teaming him… That could be fun to watch cause I’m sure from what I’ve seen from him thus far (the guy is fit and ready) that Kobe can score 30 in 25 minutes on a good night with only one defender to guard him.

    Now we all knew that Upshaw would be a long term project so why assess him now?

  • Certainly, if you read the comments on this forum, we didn’t “all know that Upshaw would be a long term project.” People believed he was ready to go, and would make an immediate impact. They said he was considered a lottery pick except for his off court problems.

    Well, he certainly doesn’t play like a lottery pick. In fact, he doesn’t play like a 2nd round pick. At least, not yet.

  • Certainly, if you read the comments on this forum, we didn’t “all know that Upshaw would be a long term project.” People believed he was ready to go, and would make an immediate impact. They said he was considered a lottery pick except for his off court problems.

    Well, he certainly doesn’t play like a lottery pick. In fact, he doesn’t play like a 2nd round pick. At least, not yet.

  • His little playing time has not helped him but in the last game he did better then SACRE , the one he would be replacing with one RB & one BLOCK, I would say keep him and let him learn from HIBBERT, and if we need a fill in C we do have Kelly 6’11” who has been working the RIM while playing PF, Upshaw could out play SACRE as he is now, I would hate to lose a C with what he can become.

  • His little playing time has not helped him but in the last game he did better then SACRE , the one he would be replacing with one RB & one BLOCK, I would say keep him and let him learn from HIBBERT, and if we need a fill in C we do have Kelly 6’11” who has been working the RIM while playing PF, Upshaw could out play SACRE as he is now, I would hate to lose a C with what he can become.

  • Pump fake, dribble, dunk. You are merely still in the pump fake phase of this.

    Many lottery picks are taken, not for their skill, but simply that they have an NBA Body

  • Pump fake, dribble, dunk. You are merely still in the pump fake phase of this.

    Many lottery picks are taken, not for their skill, but simply that they have an NBA Body

  • That’s my thoughts J. Brown is worth keeping, and as you said we are only renting MWP let him stay as ASST. COACH, J. Brown would be another lifer for the Lakers.

  • That’s my thoughts J. Brown is worth keeping, and as you said we are only renting MWP let him stay as ASST. COACH, J. Brown would be another lifer for the Lakers.

  • I can appreciate as fans having optimism with Kelly. I was hoping he’d be at least a VERY poor man’s Dirk Nowitzki but what frustrates me most with him is he doesn’t take advantage of his height(6’11”). He needs to give that height to someone like Julius who will use it to his advantage. The opposing team can just put a 6’4″ guy on Kelly but he won’t exploit the size mismatch. He’s not a good rebounder and even though he is a decent enough ball handler, doesn’t know how to finish strong at the rim or simply take two dribbles and pull up. That’s why I say uncoordinated.

  • I can appreciate as fans having optimism with Kelly. I was hoping he’d be at least a VERY poor man’s Dirk Nowitzki but what frustrates me most with him is he doesn’t take advantage of his height(6’11”). He needs to give that height to someone like Julius who will use it to his advantage. The opposing team can just put a 6’4″ guy on Kelly but he won’t exploit the size mismatch. He’s not a good rebounder and even though he is a decent enough ball handler, doesn’t know how to finish strong at the rim or simply take two dribbles and pull up. On top of that, he has shown zero post up skills. That’s why I say uncoordinated.

  • That’s just a guess, time will tell, LOU not going any where but if we have one more of those years where every one gets hurt he will help.

  • That’s just a guess, time will tell, LOU not going any where but if we have one more of those years where every one gets hurt he will help.

  • So far he’s exemplifying exactly what his scouting report said. He’s always been a 2 year project, but somehow people started thinking that he’d be an all star from day 1.

    But, we need to remember that he’s a 19 year old KID. And needs to grow physically, learn the NBA game and improve his shot…. This time last year he was 5 months removed from high school.

  • So far he’s exemplifying exactly what his scouting report said. He’s always been a 2 year project, but somehow people started thinking that he’d be an all star from day 1.

    But, we need to remember that he’s a 19 year old KID. And needs to grow physically, learn the NBA game and improve his shot…. This time last year he was 5 months removed from high school.

  • I’ve been defending D’Angelo and keeping things in perspective but at the end of the day he has a lot to prove given all the players we chose him over. There’s only ONE way to shut people up and it ain’t by talking.

  • I’ve been defending D’Angelo and keeping things in perspective but at the end of the day he has a lot to prove given all the players we chose him over. There’s only ONE way to shut people up and it ain’t by talking.

  • Ok, but hes effective (so far). Also dont worry too much about that because we have Hibbert, thats Hibberts job.

  • Ok, but hes effective (so far). Also dont worry too much about that because we have Hibbert, thats Hibberts job.

  • Russell will be a dominant point guard. …. but let’s wait until he’s 21, has a year of experience and a year in the weight room.

    He might take 2 or 3 seasons but Mitch got the pick right.

  • Russell will be a dominant point guard. …. but let’s wait until he’s 21, has a year of experience and a year in the weight room.

    He might take 2 or 3 seasons but Mitch got the pick right.

  • Give him a few months to get past being star struck.

    He’s a 19 year old kid. 18 months ago he was playing video games with his buddies after school dreaming about these same guys.

  • Give him a few months to get past being star struck.

    He’s a 19 year old kid. 18 months ago he was playing video games with his buddies after school dreaming about these same guys.

  • Look at what 1 season did for Randle and Clarkson.

    He’s 19… relax people. Russell has about 15 more seasons to grow, get better, and fulfill his potential.

  • Look at what 1 season did for Randle and Clarkson.

    He’s 19… relax people. Russell has about 15 more seasons to grow, get better, and fulfill his potential.

  • Maybe….
    The team could wait until the last minute to cut guys hoping other teams rosters are set to start the season.

  • Maybe….
    The team could wait until the last minute to cut guys hoping other teams rosters are set to start the season.

  • I think I’d rather keep MWP so that he can practice with randle every day and teach the young guys how to be a professional.

    I highly doubt that MWP, if cut, gets a chance to be an assistant, as he’s played well enough to get picked uo. And as an assistant he won’t travel with the team and practice with Randle.

    Also, MWP is a lot better than you guys are trying to sell.

  • I think I’d rather keep MWP so that he can practice with randle every day and teach the young guys how to be a professional.

    I highly doubt that MWP, if cut, gets a chance to be an assistant, as he’s played well enough to get picked uo. And as an assistant he won’t travel with the team and practice with Randle.

    Also, MWP is a lot better than you guys are trying to sell.

  • Randle can get close….but he’s not quite as good as wiggins.

    Julius would have to get a lot better at defense and rebounding to be in contention.

  • Randle can get close….but he’s not quite as good as wiggins.

    Julius would have to get a lot better at defense and rebounding to be in contention.

  • Drop the hype. Once the league gets film on randle he’s not going to be unstoppable for a year or so. And moat teams will simply add another defender…..

  • Drop the hype. Once the league gets film on randle he’s not going to be unstoppable for a year or so. And moat teams will simply add another defender…..

  • maybe Kelly, Bass, Black, Young(even though he’s ballin’) for Paul George.
    or Straight up Bass for Taj Gibs.

  • maybe Kelly, Bass, Black, Young(even though he’s ballin’) for Paul George.
    or Straight up Bass for Taj Gibs.

  • To be honest Randle reminds me of LBJ in terms of exponential growth and assertiveness on the court. I remember when LeBron came in the league and no one could believe his age because he was so strong and mature, n almost unstoppable when attacking the basket; that’s the way I feel about Randle. Another thing is Randle like LeBron, loves going coast to coast and is slowly developing that jump shot.

  • To be honest Randle reminds me of LBJ in terms of exponential growth and assertiveness on the court. I remember when LeBron came in the league and no one could believe his age because he was so strong and mature, n almost unstoppable when attacking the basket; that’s the way I feel about Randle. Another thing is Randle like LeBron, loves going coast to coast and is slowly developing that jump shot.

  • He would find pple wide open if he becomes a scoring threat. I know Russell is a kid, but so is Mudiay and he’s putting up 22 points; Russell had a 21 point game in SL, I think he can score and become great at it.

  • Lol at that. He needs to get the ball to the scorers and pick his spots as far as driving and pulling up with the J.

  • He would find pple wide open if he becomes a scoring threat. I know Russell is a kid, but so is Mudiay and he’s putting up 22 points; Russell had a 21 point game in SL, I think he can score and become great at it.

  • Lol at that. He needs to get the ball to the scorers and pick his spots as far as driving and pulling up with the J. The time for him to go out there looking to score first will come one day but that ain’t happening this year

  • Nick Young is certainly trending up as well. Byron told him to work on his catch and shoot throughout the offseason, and knocking down three threes off assists from Huertas shows he’s doing that. I don’t know what percentage he’s shooting, but it’s surely around 42% from what I’ve seen.

    I would also add that Robert Upshaw seems to be going up as well. Granted, when you’re competing against Sacre, that’s easy to look at and say because anything looks like an upgrade. But Upshaw has flashed his shotblocking, has made some nice finishes at the rim, and looks like he’s got a legitimate shot at making the squad.

  • Nick Young is certainly trending up as well. Byron told him to work on his catch and shoot throughout the offseason, and knocking down three threes off assists from Huertas shows he’s doing that. I don’t know what percentage he’s shooting, but it’s surely around 42% from what I’ve seen.

    I would also add that Robert Upshaw seems to be going up as well. Granted, when you’re competing against Sacre, that’s easy to look at and say because anything looks like an upgrade. But Upshaw has flashed his shotblocking, has made some nice finishes at the rim, and looks like he’s got a legitimate shot at making the squad.

  • Stockton and Nash were pass first guys but that doesn’t mean you’re not a scoring threat lol

  • Stockton and Nash were pass first guys but that doesn’t mean you’re not a scoring threat lol

  • I don’t agree with your assessment of Upshaw. You can’t evaluate him based on what he should have been – you have to evaluate him on what he is, that is an undrafted rookie. He’s changed/altered and blocked several shots, even keeping them in bounds, and he’s made a few nice moves to the rim with his minimal touches.

    I also disagree with your assessment of Kobe. Trending up isn’t hard when you shoot 37% the previous year. The only reason Kobe looks strange is because he’s been playing with multiple ballhandlers, something he’s never had in his career. Look for Kobe to assert himself when the stakes rise on Oct. 28th.

  • I don’t agree with your assessment of Upshaw. You can’t evaluate him based on what he should have been – you have to evaluate him on what he is, that is an undrafted rookie. He’s changed/altered and blocked several shots, even keeping them in bounds, and he’s made a few nice moves to the rim with his minimal touches.

    I also disagree with your assessment of Kobe. Trending up isn’t hard when you shoot 37% the previous year. The only reason Kobe looks strange is because he’s been playing with multiple ballhandlers, something he’s never had in his career. Look for Kobe to assert himself when the stakes rise on Oct. 28th.

  • true, but look at the size of those players you mentioned; Russell is a big guard and in college he was never a true PG. He has always been a SG/PG where as Stockton and Nash were always natural point guards.

  • true, but look at the size of those players you mentioned; Russell is a big guard and in college he was never a true PG. He has always been a SG/PG where as Stockton and Nash were always natural point guards.

  • Kobe is Kobe but I do disagree on one thing, his lift. Compared to last year, he has lift. I can see it when he gets up and he’s not lower than opposing defenders leaping to block his shot. He’s not having to lean back as far to try to prevent a block and get it up and over. Also, his spreads so far and his FG%’s are much better here in preseason vs last year. Granted it’s only preseason, but the numbers are the numbers.

    As far as Upshaw, you have to take him into context of what he is vs Summer League. When they say “solid game”, they don’t mean he was solid for a typical NBA player, it’s more solid for how he has progressed. He does look lost or steps slow. Those will go away with time, practice and work. But when he’s not lost, when he has his moments, it’s great stuff. Nice blocks, ability to score so far in different ways. He’s been impressive on the things that he has shown. You’re right, he’s a project, but because he’s shown some things beyond losing his breath in Summer League, I’d say he’s upticking.

  • Kobe is Kobe but I do disagree on one thing, his lift. Compared to last year, he has lift. I can see it when he gets up and he’s not lower than opposing defenders leaping to block his shot. He’s not having to lean back as far to try to prevent a block and get it up and over. Also, his spreads so far and his FG%’s are much better here in preseason vs last year. Granted it’s only preseason, but the numbers are the numbers.

    As far as Upshaw, you have to take him into context of what he is vs Summer League. When they say “solid game”, they don’t mean he was solid for a typical NBA player, it’s more solid for how he has progressed. He does look lost or steps slow. Those will go away with time, practice and work. But when he’s not lost, when he has his moments, it’s great stuff. Nice blocks, ability to score so far in different ways. He’s been impressive on the things that he has shown. You’re right, he’s a project, but because he’s shown some things beyond losing his breath in Summer League, I’d say he’s upticking.

  • Kobe, 45% from the field and 37% from 3 in preseason. That’s on par with his career.

  • Yeah, just like Curry isn’t a natural pg but more of a scorer. But like Curry he’s more effective at pg

  • Kobe, 45% from the field and 37% from 3 in preseason. That’s on par with his career.

  • Yeah, just like Curry isn’t a natural pg but more of a scorer. But like Curry he’s more effective at pg

  • Let’s not forget also, Randle had a year as an observer only in the league and a preseason. He is really a rookie all over again when it comes to actual PT.

  • Let’s not forget also, Randle had a year as an observer only in the league and a preseason. He is really a rookie all over again when it comes to actual PT.

  • Bynum didn’t come into the league playing like the 10th pick in the draft. Yes, I know his history, yes, I know the injuries. But when he played, when he was healthy, the guy was a force and had he stayed healthy and didn’t have the attitude, could have justified the 1st pick in the draft. But when he came in, he was a massive project that took what, 2-3 years to develop? So if the argument is such, then the assessment of Upshaw should be looked through the same glass.

  • Bynum didn’t come into the league playing like the 10th pick in the draft. Yes, I know his history, yes, I know the injuries. But when he played, when he was healthy, the guy was a force and had he stayed healthy and didn’t have the attitude, could have justified the 1st pick in the draft. But when he came in, he was a massive project that took what, 2-3 years to develop? So if the argument is such, then the assessment of Upshaw should be looked through the same glass.

  • I’m a huge fan of randle but he will have to earn that title. Don’t forget about Jabari Parker, he was hands down rookie of the year before getting a torn acl

  • I’m a huge fan of randle but he will have to earn that title. Don’t forget about Jabari Parker, he was hands down rookie of the year before getting a torn acl

  • i think you guys are slowly coming around to the idea that he is a good scorer just not a great shooter; imagine how good a scorer he can be if he doesn’t have the load of distributor although he is a great dual threat also when he catches to shoot or dish off to the open man.

  • i think you guys are slowly coming around to the idea that he is a good scorer just not a great shooter; imagine how good a scorer he can be if he doesn’t have the load of distributor although he is a great dual threat also when he catches to shoot or dish off to the open man.

  • Dana,

    Robert upshaw has. Size weight and blocking ability you can’t teach. He is more athletic than sacre, sells fakes and has better post play than black and hasn’t really had any play time in preseason. Basketball is about rhythm and reps, I’d say if we ever get to see him play 20+ minutes you’d be singing a different tune, but to still continue to block shots and a,tear defenses even when he is lost, out of shape and lacking rhythm says a lot.

    My understanding of upshaw is that the coaching staff want to keep him hungry so he doesn’t get over confident and begin slacking off or messing up in his personal life ago. Look at Byron, the man never smiles and holds off compliments because he doesn’t want anyone’s head getting big, he wants a team of dogs on defense that hound players and give 150% all the time. As fans we have to support and pray that they sign him, because being a step slow and lost on defense and offensive sets when touve barely played college let alone professional basketball over the last two years is a remedy easily fixed with practice and time in the d league. Upshaw has that hunger and will to prove hImself, you saw it against the maccabi team, when he hit the turn around jumper and was aggressive offensively.

    Please have faith and enjoy the show because this season will be a thriller. You’ll be uncomfortable often, sometimes you’ll think you know what’s going to happen, and then you’ll be surprised.

  • Dana,

    Robert upshaw has. Size weight and blocking ability you can’t teach. He is more athletic than sacre, sells fakes and has better post play than black and hasn’t really had any play time in preseason. Basketball is about rhythm and reps, I’d say if we ever get to see him play 20+ minutes you’d be singing a different tune, but to still continue to block shots and a,tear defenses even when he is lost, out of shape and lacking rhythm says a lot.

    My understanding of upshaw is that the coaching staff want to keep him hungry so he doesn’t get over confident and begin slacking off or messing up in his personal life ago. Look at Byron, the man never smiles and holds off compliments because he doesn’t want anyone’s head getting big, he wants a team of dogs on defense that hound players and give 150% all the time. As fans we have to support and pray that they sign him, because being a step slow and lost on defense and offensive sets when touve barely played college let alone professional basketball over the last two years is a remedy easily fixed with practice and time in the d league. Upshaw has that hunger and will to prove hImself, you saw it against the maccabi team, when he hit the turn around jumper and was aggressive offensively.

    Please have faith and enjoy the show because this season will be a thriller. You’ll be uncomfortable often, sometimes you’ll think you know what’s going to happen, and then you’ll be surprised.

  • Agreed. I think he will be a good role player once he gets more consistent. He doesn’t have very good vision but he is very active. Would love to see him become a great three point shooter who can lock it down on defense.

  • Agreed. I think he will be a good role player once he gets more consistent. He doesn’t have very good vision but he is very active. Would love to see him become a great three point shooter who can lock it down on defense.

  • He has been good in every area so far in Preseason. Really no weaknesses. Will that continue in the regular season? We can only hope!

  • He has been good in every area so far in Preseason. Really no weaknesses. Will that continue in the regular season? We can only hope!

  • Offensively Young is doing fine, but man he makes me mad on defense. He loses every single 50/50 ball, it is maddening.

  • Offensively Young is doing fine, but man he makes me mad on defense. He loses every single 50/50 ball, it is maddening.

  • its preseason last preseason he tryed to play defense and get 50-50 plays and he broke his hand. he is playing safer which he should

  • its preseason last preseason he tryed to play defense and get 50-50 plays and he broke his hand. he is playing safer which he should

  • I hate the “what have you done for me lately” attitude people have when it comes to evaluation and what not. Upshaw is the perfect example. You have to look at him through the Bynum lens when it comes to player development. You can see little things, his shot blocking ability, nose for rebounds, his ability to score so far in different ways and know he can be something really nice. But you have to know that all the other stuff, the being lost on D, that’s all part of putting in work, putting in the 2-3 years before that rose can really bloom. It’s irresponsible for people to so negatively assess a player. Bynum came in, raw project, 2-3 years later he was a dominant center when healthy.

  • I hate the “what have you done for me lately” attitude people have when it comes to evaluation and what not. Upshaw is the perfect example. You have to look at him through the Bynum lens when it comes to player development. You can see little things, his shot blocking ability, nose for rebounds, his ability to score so far in different ways and know he can be something really nice. But you have to know that all the other stuff, the being lost on D, that’s all part of putting in work, putting in the 2-3 years before that rose can really bloom. It’s irresponsible for people to so negatively assess a player. Bynum came in, raw project, 2-3 years later he was a dominant center when healthy.

  • Any third string center who is asked to play a bigger role will get unfairly criticized.
    I’ve never heard so many fans complain about a third string center who has been asked to fill bigger roles than other teams’ third string center.

  • Any third string center who is asked to play a bigger role will get unfairly criticized.
    I’ve never heard so many fans complain about a third string center who has been asked to fill bigger roles than other teams’ third string center.

  • I think clarkson needs too pass for first half of the game and then slide too sg and let russ pass the rest at pg

  • I think clarkson needs too pass for first half of the game and then slide too sg and let russ pass the rest at pg

  • Trending Up or Down, I think that there is little surprise coming on this roster:
    PG: Russell, Heurtas,
    SG: Clarkson, Williams
    SF: Bryant, Young, A. Brown, World-Peace
    PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance Jr.
    C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre

    D-League Affiliate – NBA now allows 4 players cut from training camp to be assigned as a D-League Player on an affiliate team (as of 2015-16 season):
    1: Upshaw
    2: J. Brown
    3: Holmes
    4: Frazier

    Only problem with the affiliates is that if a team does not own the rights to the player as is the case for all these un-drafted players then any other team is free to negotiate with them and sign them at any time during the season.

    I would love to see Upshaw replace Sacre in this line up and still get assigned so that he can get game action from the 50 game season of the D-League. If this happens, they will keep Kelly on the main roster for sure as Bass will see time at Center.

    I also believe that World-Peace should be offered an Assistant Coach position like Mike Madsen and give the spot to J. Brown as a 3rd option at SG.

  • Trending Up or Down, I think that there is little surprise coming on this roster:
    PG: Russell, Heurtas,
    SG: Clarkson, Williams
    SF: Bryant, Young, A. Brown, World-Peace
    PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance Jr.
    C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre

    D-League Affiliate – NBA now allows 4 players cut from training camp to be assigned as a D-League Player on an affiliate team (as of 2015-16 season):
    1: Upshaw
    2: J. Brown
    3: Holmes
    4: Frazier

    Only problem with the affiliates is that if a team does not own the rights to the player as is the case for all these un-drafted players then any other team is free to negotiate with them and sign them at any time during the season.

    I would love to see Upshaw replace Sacre in this line up and still get assigned so that he can get game action from the 50 game season of the D-League. If this happens, they will keep Kelly on the main roster for sure as Bass will see time at Center.

    I also believe that World-Peace should be offered an Assistant Coach position like Mike Madsen and give the spot to J. Brown as a 3rd option at SG.

  • That’s because every other 3rd string Center in the nba is better than Robert Sacre.

  • That’s because every other 3rd string Center in the nba is better than Robert Sacre.

  • It’s tough he can score but at the same time I think he realizes how stacked this team can be offensively. Hypothetically, lets say randle and clarkson are future all stars plus kobe(2nd best sg of all time) the argument could be made he is our 4th option on offense and he knows that. That’s why I don’t criticize the kids field goal percentage because what rookie do you that was ever efficient with such a limited amount of scoring opportunities. O and don’t forget we will have a top 5 offensive bench this year.

  • It’s tough he can score but at the same time I think he realizes how stacked this team can be offensively. Hypothetically, lets say randle and clarkson are future all stars plus kobe(2nd best sg of all time) the argument could be made he is our 4th option on offense and he knows that. That’s why I don’t criticize the kids field goal percentage because what rookie do you that was ever efficient with such a limited amount of scoring opportunities. O and don’t forget we will have a top 5 offensive bench this year.

  • Please stop with the mudiay comparison, the nuggets don’t have 1/3 of the talent we do. He’s probably the best player on the team already.

  • Please stop with the mudiay comparison, the nuggets don’t have 1/3 of the talent we do. He’s probably the best player on the team already.

  • you can have okaforian the dinosaur, mudaiy, and kristaps. I’m taking Dlo 10/10 times only player better was towns. FACT!

  • you can have okaforian the dinosaur, mudaiy, and kristaps. I’m taking Dlo 10/10 times only player better was towns. FACT!

  • I just did. I said EVERY 3rd string Center in the nba is better than Sacre. Doesn’t matter what their names are. They can’t possibly be worse than him.

  • I just did. I said EVERY 3rd string Center in the nba is better than Sacre. Doesn’t matter what their names are. They can’t possibly be worse than him.

  • Ok, great. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m a Laker fan and why would I not root for D’Angelo to be great? There’s certain things that come with being selected #2. Especially if it’s the Lakers. He has to hear it and go out and prove the negative people wrong. Simple as that.

  • Ok, great. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m a Laker fan and why would I not root for D’Angelo to be great? There’s certain things that come with being selected #2. Especially if it’s the Lakers. He has to hear it and go out and prove the negative people wrong. Simple as that.

  • I like the kid he is being respectful the FIRST TIME; from here on out it’s ON and you and I know it.

  • I like the kid he is being respectful the FIRST TIME; from here on out it’s ON and you and I know it.

  • I don’t have anything personal against the guy. He just doesn’t help this team and doesn’t get any better year to year. You must be a family member of his lol.

  • I don’t have anything personal against the guy. He just doesn’t help this team(which really means he’s hurting the team)and doesn’t get any better year to year. You must be a family member of his lol.

  • What is an nba body? Tony Parker and Steph Curry definitely don’t have nba bodies.

  • What is an nba body? Tony Parker and Steph Curry definitely don’t have nba bodies.

  • Finally.. someone is saying the truth i expect the lakers to regret bustsell pick. He is horrible, to soft never played in the hard blacktop games, probably played in princess league’s. But randle will be my favorite next to huertas

  • Finally.. someone is saying the truth i expect the lakers to regret bustsell pick. He is horrible, to soft never played in the hard blacktop games, probably played in princess league’s. But randle will be my favorite next to huertas

  • Never said he wouldn’t get bigger and faster but its too late to start trying to when the start of the season is right around the corner.

  • Never said he wouldn’t get bigger and faster but its too late to start trying to when the start of the season is right around the corner.

  • If he can be a half Lebron James i will be happy. Both are point fowards too

  • If he can be a half Lebron James i will be happy. Both are point fowards too

  • I dont like Sacre but that logic is flawed. He said name them, all u did was make a statement and repeated that statement again. That’s not how debating works lol

  • I dont like Sacre but that logic is flawed. He said name them, all u did was make a statement and repeated that statement again. That’s not how debating works lol

  • 2nd time Randle only went up against Green ounce this was his first game against the Warriors. Sorr6 meant for Rival

  • 2nd time Randle only went up against Green ounce this was his first game against the Warriors. Sorr6 meant for Rival

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