Lakers Vs. Raptors Preview: L.A. Still Looking For First Preseason Win

After dropping their first two games of the 2015-16 preseason to the Utah Jazz in Hawaii, the Los Angeles Lakers (0-2) are still in search for their first win as they fly back to California to face the Toronto Raptors (1-1) in Ontario, CA. However, although being winless, the Lakers showed a sense of grittiness and toughness in the second game that wasn’t seen all of last season, but still fell short in an exciting 117-114 overtime loss. The team looked better across the board as they got strong contributions from Roy Hibbert (16 points, 11 rebounds), Julius Randle (16 points) and Lou Williams, who led all scorers with 20 points. Kobe Bryant also looked sharp, scoring 13 points on 5-of-9 shooting in under 21 minutes of action.

What will Julius Randle make this season? Find out here!

The only scare came with 7:42 left in the first quarter when rookie D’Angelo Russell took a hard fall on a foul he committed against Rudy Gobert that caused him to miss the rest of the game with a bruised glue muscle. The fall looked worse than it actually was, but head coach Byron Scott decided to take precautionary matters and not take his chances on the second overall pick of this year’s draft. His status for Thursday’s game is questionable.

Frontcourt:

DeMarre Carroll is entering his first season of his new four-year, $60 million deal with the Raptors after easily coming off his best season of his career. He finished last season averaging 12.6 points and 5.3 rebounds per game as a defensive-minded player who could play on both ends of the floor. Carroll was the heart and soul of the Atlanta Hawks and he helped lead them to a franchise-high 60 wins and a No. 1 seed in the Eastern Conference. Now with Toronto, the 28-year-old will have more talent around him, but expect him to continue to be the tenacious defender that led him to that big contract. He scored 15 points in his latest outing against the Golden State Warriors in a 95-87 loss.

Alongside Carroll is Kentucky product and former first-round draft pick, Patrick Patterson. As of now, the starting power forward position is his, but with veteran Luis Scola right behind him, there’s no guarantee that Patterson is their starting four man going forward. Patterson is going to have to continue to spread the floor as a stretch four and knock down shots from the perimeter. Last season, he shot a carer-high 283 three-point attempts, knocking down 37.1 percent of them. He struggled against Golden State, finishing with just four points and five rebounds in 25 minutes played.

The 7’0″ Jonas Valanciunas is the Raptors big man in the middle who is looking to follow-up a great 2014-15 season where he posted averages of 12.0 points and 8.7 rebounds per game.The 23-year-old center is now entering his fourth year in the NBA and is adapting nicely to this Raptors team that’s made the playoffs two straight years. Valanciunas finished with 10 points and 12 rebounds in his first game against the Los Angeles Clippers and eight points and 10 rebounds in 22 minutes on Monday against Golden State.

Backcourt:

Toronto’s backcourt is potentially looking like one of the top backcourts in the Eastern Conference. At point guard, there’s All-Star guard Kyle Lowry, who has looked great thus far again in the preseason. Lowry has only played in one of Toronto’s two preseason games thus far, but scored 26 points in 21 minutes in Toronto’s 93-73 victory against the Clippers on Sunday night. He took Monday night off against the Warriors to rest a sore right groin, but is set to return Thursday in Ontario against the Lakers.

Alongside Lowry, there’s Los Angeles native and USC product DeMar DeRozan at the shooting guard position. The 2014 NBA All-Star guard is a great asset to Lowry as he gives the team great athleticism along with the ability to score from anywhere on the floor. Known as a highlight dunker early in his career, DeRozan has transitioned to a more well-rounded scorer in his six years in the league, averaging over 20 points in each of his last two seasons.

Keys to Victory:

Continue to Play Gritty: The Lakers got back in the second quarter being down 19 against the Jazz in Game 2 because they started pressing more on close-outs and with active hands on the perimeter. This was led by Kobe Bryant and Metta World Peace, giving us a glimpse of the former 2010 team that won the NBA Championship.

Win the Rebounding Battle: After two games, the Lakers are currently -16 in the rebounding category. To get their first win, they’ll have to win the battle on the boards and limit Toronto to only one shot attempt per possession. If they do this, it’ll keeps their defense fresh and set up opportunities for semi-breaks in transition.

Finish Strong: The Lakers have failed to close either game after having the lead in both games in the fourth quarter. Although the reserves are taking up most of the minutes in the fourth, they have to find a way to get stops and capitalize on the other end. Lou Williams and Nick Young will probably be carrying the load again if the game is close in the fourth quarter. They need to limit the Raptors to one possession and take high-percentage shots on the offensive end.

Toronto Raptors (1-1) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (0-2)
7:00 PM PST, October 8, 2015
Citizens Business Bank, Ontario, CA
TV: TWC SportsNet/ NBATV
Radio: 710 ESPN (English)/ 1330 ESPN (Spanish)

Raptors Projected Starting Lineup
PG: Kyle Lowry
SG: DeMar Derozan
SF: DeMarre Carroll
PF: Patrick Patterson
C: Jonas Valanciunas

Key Reserves: Luis Scola, Terrence Ross, Corey Joseph

Lakers Projected Starting Lineup
PG: Jordan Clarkson
SG: Nick Young
SF: Kobe Bryant
PF: Julius Randle
C: Roy Hibbert

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  • btw guys this is not a scam but a found a youtube channel that live streams the lakers games in hd. i mean like they play them live for free.. just look up lakerstv on youtube

  • Please play Holmes and Upshaw for once, Huertas too if he’s healthy enough. Lakers better release Sacre, he is awful. Kelly prob got to go.

  • Please play Holmes and Upshaw for once, Huertas too if he’s healthy enough. Lakers better release Sacre, he is awful. Kelly prob got to go.

  • yeah i been watching his channel……follow @LakersNationYT on twitter for updates

  • yeah i been watching his channel……follow @LakersNationYT on twitter for updates

  • kelly and sacre gotta go…rather have the rookie upshaw back up hibbert than sacre and kelly i dont what the fuck hes doin on the ball court half of the time

  • kelly and sacre gotta go…rather have the rookie upshaw back up hibbert than sacre and kelly i dont what the fuck hes doin on the ball court half of the time

  • kobe needs to go back to the 2 and lakes should start metta at the 3 but doubt coach would do that……clarkson, young, and lou off the bench would be nastyyyy

  • kobe needs to go back to the 2 and lakes should start metta at the 3 but doubt coach would do that……clarkson, young, and lou off the bench would be nastyyyy

  • When I look at teams like the Suns and Jazz…I don’t see why the Lakers couldn’t compete with them or even be better than those squads…and these are the teams that people say will be battling for the 8th seed. Randle is my x factor tho. If he can play like he did last game majority of the season. This team will be solid. Suns have combo guards of Bledsoe/Knight…even tho Clarkson/Russell are young…I think they can still compete. I believe thats why they moved Kobe to the 3…he can’t guard quick 2’s and the west if full of them.

  • When I look at teams like the Suns and Jazz…I don’t see why the Lakers couldn’t compete with them or even be better than those squads…and these are the teams that people say will be battling for the 8th seed. Randle is my x factor tho. If he can play like he did last game majority of the season. This team will be solid. Suns have combo guards of Bledsoe/Knight…even tho Clarkson/Russell are young…I think they can still compete. I believe thats why they moved Kobe to the 3…he can’t guard quick 2’s and the west if full of them.

  • Scott has cleared the bench in the first two pre-season games. If Upshaw and Holmes aren’t seeing any playing time they probably need to step it up in practice.

    Huertas is healthy…he missed the last game to settle his immigration dox.

  • Scott has cleared the bench in the first two pre-season games. If Upshaw and Holmes aren’t seeing any playing time they probably need to step it up in practice.

    Huertas is healthy…he missed the last game to settle his immigration dox.

  • Lol. I watch the games on the same channel when they not showing on TV in Dallas. Just found the channel like 4 days ago. lol.

  • Lol. I watch the games on the same channel when they not showing on TV in Dallas. Just found the channel like 4 days ago. lol.

  • TRUE, TRUE . . . LMAO (still laughing :), great comment . . . I too can’t seem to see y sacre, kelly r doing on court !!??? May be mitch likes seeing them in . . . , but really, they r USELESS on the court – Best

  • TRUE, TRUE . . . LMAO (still laughing :), great comment . . . I too can’t seem to see y sacre, kelly r doing on court !!??? May be mitch likes seeing them in . . . , but really, they r USELESS on the court – Best

  • I really don’t care who wins in preseason games, I just want the team to compete and improve from game to game. We need to step it up defensively and stop gambling. Also we need to box out!

  • I really don’t care who wins in preseason games, I just want the team to compete and improve from game to game. We need to step it up defensively and stop gambling. Also we need to box out!

  • Scott is just trying to give Sacre as many chance as possible to prove himself. I think the Lakers have already made their mind up. I think Upshaw makes the roster. He’s worth the gamble. We already know what Sacre can or should I say can’t do.

  • Scott is just trying to give Sacre as many chance as possible to prove himself. I think the Lakers have already made their mind up. I think Upshaw makes the roster. He’s worth the gamble. We already know what Sacre can or should I say can’t do.

  • play Upshaw, agreed . . . the older Huertas dude, sounds like behind LW, but definitely ahead of clarkson (can’t stop watching GORDON Hayward CLOWNING Clarkson – lmao). sacre beyond awful, kelly got to go beyond prob Bro – Best

  • play Upshaw, agreed . . . the older Huertas dude, sounds like behind LW, but definitely ahead of clarkson (can’t stop watching GORDON Hayward CLOWNING Clarkson – lmao). sacre beyond awful, kelly got to go beyond prob Bro – Best

  • LW starting guard, followed by Hueratas and when I want to see clarkson play (?), i can’t get what clowning Utah Jazz Gordon Hayward did (cn dat) to clakrosn, i mean clarkson lol – Best

  • LW starting guard, followed by Hueratas and when I want to see clarkson play (?), i can’t get what clowning Utah Jazz Gordon Hayward did (cn dat) to clakrosn, i mean clarkson lol – Best

  • Upshaw makes roster – agreed, yes!! Byron S is almost making me sick thou, on how much time dude is giving sacre, and what about that kelly guy (with feminine looking hair-do? I heard mitch fixes kelly hair & says, “looks fab, player”). As coach, hasn’t bs made up his mind about sacre or kelly or rooks? none of them have nor they nba players !!! trade the rook & u will c, that NO one takes that damn rook DR. Even if u throw in kelly and sacre along with DR – u wouldn’t get a handful of beanz – Best

  • Upshaw makes roster – agreed, yes!! Byron S is almost making me sick thou, on how much time dude is giving sacre, and what about that kelly guy (with feminine looking hair-do? I heard mitch fixes kelly hair & says, “looks fab, player”). As coach, hasn’t bs made up his mind about sacre or kelly or rooks? none of them have nor they nba players !!! trade the rook & u will c, that NO one takes that damn rook DR. Even if u throw in kelly and sacre along with DR – u wouldn’t get a handful of beanz – Best

  • this is Laker Nation. We want championships, NOT rook projects !! Thats what d league is for. We need some W in the column, THIS Yr, not some “pie-in-the-sky” time frame!! u are like, “yes, waaaaay down the road, we will be good!! like yrs from now” and I’m like, “hell no!! needs wins now!! #sendla-rooks2dLg – best

  • this is Laker Nation. We want championships, NOT rook projects !! Thats what d league is for. We need some W in the column, THIS Yr, not some “pie-in-the-sky” time frame!! u are like, “yes, waaaaay down the road, we will be good!! like yrs from now” and I’m like, “hell no!! needs wins now!! #sendla-rooks2dLg – best

  • Hell yeah lets send the young guys down to the D-league and replace them with some star players. Win this Year! Replace Russell with….um. Or Clarkson with….ummm idk. Send Randle down to develop slowly and pick-up….ummm someone idk.

  • Hell yeah lets send the young guys down to the D-league and replace them with some star players. Win this Year! Replace Russell with….um. Or Clarkson with….ummm idk. Send Randle down to develop slowly and pick-up….ummm someone idk.

  • I’d start Lou Will. He’s the best option at PG or SG without question and it’s against the team that failed to offer him a new deal after winning 6th man.

  • no need to play bass tonight. Hibbert doesn’t need to play 32 minutes either. Hopefully we see Upshaw and Holmes get extended run tonight

  • no need to play bass tonight. Hibbert doesn’t need to play 32 minutes either. Hopefully we see Upshaw and Holmes get extended run tonight

  • I thought this was the best lineup brought out on the floor so far as well.

  • right on bro. Well we were given LW, Swag. Not sure what Huertas got? Not sure I like Frazier, or J Brown. But I like Anthony Brown faaaar better than DR. But keep clarkson for small minutes, so: LW starts, sub in Huertas, then waaay after, if that, send in clarkson. But these are our choices, thanks to the brilliant mitch’s picks again. c what we get when an idiot is making our choices??

  • right on bro. Well we were given LW, Swag. Not sure what Huertas got? Not sure I like Frazier, or J Brown. But I like Anthony Brown faaaar better than DR. But keep clarkson for small minutes, so: LW starts, sub in Huertas, then waaay after, if that, send in clarkson. But these are our choices, thanks to the brilliant mitch’s picks again. c what we get when an idiot is making our choices??

  • I think we should keep Kelly because of salary and stretch four abilities. Kelly is still young and can improve. Sacre should have been cut years ago!!!

  • I think we should keep Kelly because of salary and stretch four abilities. Kelly is still young and can improve. Sacre should have been cut years ago!!!

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  • Delusional retarded laker fanboys think this scrap team will be good but reality shows this is a pile of turd mediocre team

  • Y? Bro, I agree, play Lou. But as sixth? ? Not too sure, after them two games, looks like Lou has some pretty mad skills. He’ll have two bigs in Upshaw and Hibbert to help Lou contend on D. But Lou can Play dude. Not sure DR or Clarkboy can play ahead of Lou too long, before Lou will get frustrated and want to leave !! I Vote start Lou. Let Lou get those valuable pre-season min to gel. As a head coach, bs should kno by now what clarkboy (watch out for Hayward, Jordon, lol), and what DR can’t do. Right??? come on bs, i’m pulling for u.

  • Y? Bro, I agree, play Lou. But as sixth? ? Not too sure, after them two games, looks like Lou has some pretty mad skills. He’ll have two bigs in Upshaw and Hibbert to help Lou contend on D. But Lou can Play dude. Not sure DR or Clarkboy can play ahead of Lou too long, before Lou will get frustrated and want to leave !! I Vote start Lou. Let Lou get those valuable pre-season min to gel. As a head coach, bs should kno by now what clarkboy (watch out for Hayward, Jordon, lol), and what DR can’t do. Right??? come on bs, i’m pulling for u.

  • This would be another great season of laughs for me and a miserable season for you delusional retarded faker fanboys

  • I like Clarkson a little better at PG than Lou due to his ability to break down the defense and the full court press; but either player will perform at the least up to expectation.

  • Auto flagging my ass , just shows your the one here who has no life you’re here 24/7 copycat

  • I like Clarkson a little better at PG than Lou due to his ability to break down the defense and the full court press; but either player will perform at the least up to expectation.

  • If Huetas is available but this article left him out, maybe he is still adjusting to his own personal schedule.

  • He can lead the bench. I’m sure we will have games when Lou and Young are going off together.

  • If Huetas is available but this article left him out, maybe he is still adjusting to his own personal schedule.

  • He can lead the bench. I’m sure we will have games when Lou and Young are going off together.

  • I agree hibbert really should only play no more than 20 min until the regular season along with taking every other game off.

  • I like to pretend I’m tough on the net coz in real life I’m a fat couch potato sitting in front of my computer watching porn all day

  • I agree hibbert really should only play no more than 20 min until the regular season along with taking every other game off.

  • I like to pretend I’m tough on the net coz in real life I’m a fat couch potato sitting in front of my computer watching porn all day

  • Yeah I’ve been patient but if he Upshaw is in good condition they gotta let him play tonight.

  • Start Kobrick (only when he plays team ball like on Tuesday night), Clarkson, Lou Williams, Randle, & Roy Hibbert. Give Brandon Bass many more minutes. Give Upshaw lots of minutes to develop. Cut Sacre and Kelly! Consider waiving Kobrick if he doesn’t play team ball. Above all else, start trying to find a decent coach.

  • Yeah I’ve been patient but if he Upshaw is in good condition they gotta let him play tonight.

  • Start Kobrick (only when he plays team ball like on Tuesday night), Clarkson, Lou Williams, Randle, & Roy Hibbert. Give Brandon Bass many more minutes. Give Upshaw lots of minutes to develop. Cut Sacre and Kelly! Consider waiving Kobrick if he doesn’t play team ball. Above all else, start trying to find a decent coach.

  • Young should start and be like how jr smith was when he first went to Cleveland hitting threes but under a short leash by LeBron. Kobe would keep young under control and lou can come off the bench and lead our second unit.

  • I like being the enforcer on this site coz I’m a lazy bum who has no job so I’m on this site 24/7 and like to obsess on the Lakers and think I’m a Gm

  • Young should start and be like how jr smith was when he first went to Cleveland hitting threes but under a short leash by LeBron. Kobe would keep young under control and lou can come off the bench and lead our second unit.

  • I want to really sorta agree . . . I think LW should play, yes. I just don’t want Lou to get upset, coming in off bench, thats all. How about this combo, sometime: pg Lou f swag f KB? I just don’t want to lose Lou

  • I want to really sorta agree . . . I think LW should play, yes. I just don’t want Lou to get upset, coming in off bench, thats all. How about this combo, sometime: pg Lou f swag f KB? I just don’t want to lose Lou

  • Kobrick is only there to generate income. The FO is fully aware that he is done. Don’t be fooled by his play in one game. Being a ball hog is okay if you are Labron James. Kobrick is no longer that caliber player. Kobrick will return to his normal, ball hog with 30% shooting and loses ball often.

  • Seen that. Usually you only get through one half cuz Lakers haters jump on there and report like whiny b1tches

  • Seen that. Usually you only get through one half cuz Lakers haters jump on there and report like whiny b1tches

  • And it tends to lag a lot when there’s more than 7-800 viewers. Your best bet is to watch the ones on nba-streamdotcom, they never lag and it’s hd quality.

  • Westbrook only shot 42% last year. Kobe shot 37% while dealing with a shoulder injury since preseason

  • And it tends to lag a lot when there’s more than 7-800 viewers. Your best bet is to watch the ones on nba-streamdotcom, they never lag and it’s hd quality.

  • Westbrook only shot 42% last year. Kobe shot 37% while dealing with a shoulder injury since preseason

  • So many delusional retarded laker fanboys in here acting like a WANNA BE GM , like they know better than the ppl who actually works for the team , bunch of delusional retards 😀

  • i just checked Raptors web site: They have Sweet Lou on their page!! funny that don’t show hayward clowned clarkboy or busted la pick DRussell. How good r raptors derozan or lowry for Lakers to guard tonight? (don’t say, “lets put up our Project rook DR, please . . . these dudes look like men or at least look like REAL nba players and not six year project players. . . idk).

  • i just checked Raptors web site: They have Sweet Lou on their page!! funny that don’t show hayward clowned clarkboy or busted la pick DRussell. How good r raptors derozan or lowry for Lakers to guard tonight? (don’t say, “lets put up our Project rook DR, please . . . these dudes look like men or at least look like REAL nba players and not six year project players. . . idk).

  • Watched some MWP, and Lamar Odom career highlights the other day…ridiculous.

    MWP was a dog on rabies. Strong like a pit, fast like a dane

    Lamar… mr extendo-man. The goods. Undeniable skills. Had everything to be the best player EVER. Showed dope flashes

  • Watched some MWP, and Lamar Odom career highlights the other day…ridiculous.

    MWP was a dog on rabies. Strong like a pit, fast like a dane

    Lamar… mr extendo-man. The goods. Undeniable skills. Had everything to be the best player EVER. Showed dope flashes

  • I think you misunderstand the difference between fact and opinion this may be tough for a troll to comprehend. Also just because you repeat something over and over doesn’t mean its true. Example: you repeated numerous times that stanley johnson would be a laker this season.

  • I think you misunderstand the difference between fact and opinion this may be tough for a troll to comprehend. Also just because you repeat something over and over doesn’t mean its true. Example: you repeated numerous times that stanley johnson would be a laker this season.

  • Did u see how good SJ played the kids a beast while Russell is starting to look like a poor man’s kendal Marshall

  • I’m pretty sure clarkson packing haywards S*** was more impressive than that.

  • Did u see how good SJ played the kids a beast while Russell is starting to look like a poor man’s kendal Marshall

  • I’m pretty sure clarkson packing haywards S*** was more impressive than that.

  • the play, where scrub Gordon Hayward, takes the ball on the side-line behind the back of calrkson or clarkson. That play. Made clarkson look like a clown on D

  • the play, where scrub Gordon Hayward, takes the ball on the side-line behind the back of calrkson or clarkson. That play. Made clarkson look like a clown on D

  • It doesn’t matter how good he is he is not a laker and was not going to go that high in the draft period.

  • It’s not his personal schedule, it’s whatever visa issues he’s got going on with Canada, for the 1 time this year they’ll go up there to face the Raptors.

  • first of all clarkson could not of played better dwhat did you want him to do after a laker turnover by young , he was by himself whentheywere fastbraking leaving clarkson thatway the problem is we need to cut down on turnovers espicially youngs play he does not know how to pass only shoot he has no fundamentals!

  • It doesn’t matter how good he is he is not a laker and was not going to go that high in the draft period.

  • It’s not his personal schedule, it’s whatever visa issues he’s got going on with Canada, for the 1 time this year they’ll go up there to face the Raptors.

  • first of all clarkson could not of played better dwhat did you want him to do after a laker turnover by young , he was by himself whentheywere fastbraking leaving clarkson thatway the problem is we need to cut down on turnovers espicially youngs play he does not know how to pass only shoot he has no fundamentals!

  • Yeah keep telling yourself that, and when the kid become great and your bust Russell is in the d league , you’ll be getting your panties wet thinking on him being a flaker kinda like you fanboys are so delusional about wanting KD to be a laker

  • Yeah keep telling yourself that, and when the kid become great and your bust Russell is in the d league , you’ll be getting your panties wet thinking on him being a flaker kinda like you fanboys are so delusional about wanting KD to be a laker

  • Scott has said that he doesn’t want to do this giving guys 2-3 minutes thing, that everyone will get their turn, that Upshaw just needs to wait. He wants to be able to throw guys on the floor for 8-15 minutes or longer and really be able to evaluate them. Many coaches in the past would try to play as many players as possible in a game, getting snapshots as to what they could do. He doesn’t want that approach. He wants to get a certain set of guys into certain games and see what they can do for extended minutes. Upshaw will probably get his turn tonight if not Sunday.

  • oh, love the Laker D. Stop them from scoring, yes!!! just not sold 100% on clarkson, yet . . . If the clarkson is as good as everyone is saying, y didn’t clarkson take over our LA superstar role and win us another ring? idk, I’m just not totally sold yet on clarkson, hope dude can / will prove something to me b4 “I” would want to start him before the skills of LW. I’m pulling for clarkson, so don’t get me wrong, not too sure clarkson is there yet. Please prove me wrong Mr Clarkson, I want to be a Fan of Clark too!!

  • Scott has said that he doesn’t want to do this giving guys 2-3 minutes thing, that everyone will get their turn, that Upshaw just needs to wait. He wants to be able to throw guys on the floor for 8-15 minutes or longer and really be able to evaluate them. Many coaches in the past would try to play as many players as possible in a game, getting snapshots as to what they could do. He doesn’t want that approach. He wants to get a certain set of guys into certain games and see what they can do for extended minutes. Upshaw will probably get his turn tonight if not Sunday.

  • oh, love the Laker D. Stop them from scoring, yes!!! just not sold 100% on clarkson, yet . . . If the clarkson is as good as everyone is saying, y didn’t clarkson take over our LA superstar role and win us another ring? idk, I’m just not totally sold yet on clarkson, hope dude can / will prove something to me b4 “I” would want to start him before the skills of LW. I’m pulling for clarkson, so don’t get me wrong, not too sure clarkson is there yet. Please prove me wrong Mr Clarkson, I want to be a Fan of Clark too!!

  • Boo fucking Hoo, no one wants to speak to you, just like in real life. Flagged forever.

  • Boo fucking Hoo, no one wants to speak to you, just like in real life. Flagged forever.

  • I know that what is going on with the Laker FO does not make much sense. Most of the time when something does not make sense, think of money.
    The Lakers have that big money contract with Time Warner. The thing most fans do not know is that the amount of money earned by the Lakers depends on TV ratings. People will tune in just to watch Kobrick. Even though this causes the Lakers to lose, the FO wants the income. With Kobrick’s 25M/yr. the Lakers could get 3 really good players that could actually play NBA basketball. Think about it. If you replaced Kobrick with 3 really good players, the Lakers could suddenly become a competitive team then the money would follow.
    Jim Buss can’t do anything about this since Jeanie Buss was responsible for giving Kobrick the bucks. She did this for purely income reasons (business) without regard for building a competitive team. The sad part of this is that Jim Buss gets the blame and Jeanie gets to keep her job. Does this sound familiar in normal corporate life. No superstar will play for the Lakers until Kobrick is completely gone. This is the sad truth of what the Lakers have become without Dr. Buss. My feeling is that if the Lakers dump Kobrick and become competitive, they will return to the championships faster that you would believe and the money will follow.

  • Delusional retarded laker fanboys be like : 16 rings!!!
    Rest of the nba: nobody cares retards ;D!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I know that what is going on with the Laker FO does not make much sense. Most of the time when something does not make sense, think of money.
    The Lakers have that big money contract with Time Warner. The thing most fans do not know is that the amount of money earned by the Lakers depends on TV ratings. People will tune in just to watch Kobrick. Even though this causes the Lakers to lose, the FO wants the income. With Kobrick’s 25M/yr. the Lakers could get 3 really good players that could actually play NBA basketball. Think about it. If you replaced Kobrick with 3 really good players, the Lakers could suddenly become a competitive team then the money would follow.
    Jim Buss can’t do anything about this since Jeanie Buss was responsible for giving Kobrick the bucks. She did this for purely income reasons (business) without regard for building a competitive team. The sad part of this is that Jim Buss gets the blame and Jeanie gets to keep her job. Does this sound familiar in normal corporate life. No superstar will play for the Lakers until Kobrick is completely gone. This is the sad truth of what the Lakers have become without Dr. Buss. My feeling is that if the Lakers dump Kobrick and become competitive, they will return to the championships faster that you would believe and the money will follow.

  • I’m assuming Kelly is being b showcased for a trade. But, at the same time, Holmes, JBrown, and Frazier got show enough to make cutting kelly an option.

    Kelly has taken a lot of positive steps since last year.

  • He hasn’t cleared the bench. He played Brown, Sacre, Kelly and I forgot who else from the end of the bench the first game, went to Sacre again because of OT but had a look at Frazier and Nance and I forgot who else the last game. He basically said he didn’t want to do the putting guys out for 2-3 minutes or whatever and giving him a snapshot look. He wanted to play certain guys extended minutes each time and that Upshaw and such would just have to wait their turns. He wants to be able to run them 8-15 minutes or so.

    You can’t really see much in a couple short minutes, it’s through extended minutes you really see a player. Expect to see him tonight or Sunday.

  • dudeclarkson has improved little moretime on the 3 but hes trying all we can ask , why not critque a 30 year old clown like youngthatchucks shotseven the great shooters know they need to stop chucking at times in gameswhen thereshot is off young is worse than crawford becausecrawfordsnumbers inassist are better young is not a verstaile player!

  • Kelly is waste i know, but we can keep him around for very special purposes.like stretch 5 coming off bench, although he will have to improve seriously on his defense and rebounding. he can be like a matt bonner type player for LAL. Used only for specific situations and who will be extra body insurance and knows LAL culture. Sacre is waste. Dump him for a 2nd round in 2020 or something, we will get some value in future.

  • I’m assuming Kelly is being showcased for a trade. But, at the same time, Holmes, JBrown, and Frazier got show enough to make cutting kelly an option.

    Kelly has taken a lot of positive steps since last year.

  • He hasn’t cleared the bench. He played Brown, Sacre, Kelly and I forgot who else from the end of the bench the first game, went to Sacre again because of OT but had a look at Frazier and Nance and I forgot who else the last game. He basically said he didn’t want to do the putting guys out for 2-3 minutes or whatever and giving him a snapshot look. He wanted to play certain guys extended minutes each time and that Upshaw and such would just have to wait their turns. He wants to be able to run them 8-15 minutes or so.

    You can’t really see much in a couple short minutes, it’s through extended minutes you really see a player. Expect to see him tonight or Sunday.

  • dudeclarkson has improved little moretime on the 3 but hes trying all we can ask , why not critque a 30 year old clown like youngthatchucks shotseven the great shooters know they need to stop chucking at times in gameswhen thereshot is off young is worse than crawford becausecrawfordsnumbers inassist are better young is not a verstaile player!

  • Kelly is waste i know, but we can keep him around for very special purposes.like stretch 5 coming off bench, although he will have to improve seriously on his defense and rebounding. he can be like a matt bonner type player for LAL. Used only for specific situations and who will be extra body insurance and knows LAL culture. Sacre is waste. Dump him for a 2nd round in 2020 or something, we will get some value in future.

  • Your reading comprehension is terrible i am not saying anything about stanley’s playing ability or that russel should have been the pick what i am saying is that if we kept the pick it was too high to take a flier on stanley and you are the only person in the world that didn’t understand this. But you repeatedly kept saying he was going to be a laker

  • The article brought up the championship Lakers. That brought up memories.

    Don’t speak for everyone you piece of un-aborted embryo. If your family knew what you did, they’d be ashamed your crack wh0re mother didn’t swallow you.

    Get a job or go to school. Get friends. Stop thinking this is fun. It isn’t, it’s sad people like you exist.

    What are your goals in life? Yea, you have none. What do you do to improve your life every day? That’s right, nothing. Who respects you? Nobody. Who do you have to keep you company and have fun with? Yea, a man made object…a plastic computer.

    When you feel sad, remember you have no one “b1atch”. So talk to your computer Siri and hope she deals with your feelings and stupidity

  • Your reading comprehension is terrible i am not saying anything about stanley’s playing ability or that russel should have been the pick what i am saying is that if we kept the pick it was too high to take a flier on stanley and you are the only person in the world that didn’t understand this. But you repeatedly kept saying he was going to be a laker

  • The article brought up the championship Lakers. That brought up memories.

    Don’t speak for everyone you piece of un-aborted embryo. If your family knew what you did, they’d be ashamed your crack wh0re mother didn’t swallow you.

    Get a job or go to school. Get friends. Stop thinking this is fun. It isn’t, it’s sad people like you exist.

    What are your goals in life? Yea, you have none. What do you do to improve your life every day? That’s right, nothing. Who respects you? Nobody. Who do you have to keep you company and have fun with? Yea, a man made object…a plastic computer.

    When you feel sad, remember you have no one “b1atch”. So talk to your computer Siri and hope she deals with your feelings and stupidity

  • Lou was 6th man of the year…he is the type of player that thrives off the bench better than in the starting lineup. I wouldn’t worry about losing him.

  • Lou was 6th man of the year…he is the type of player that thrives off the bench better than in the starting lineup. I wouldn’t worry about losing him.

  • I know that what is going on with the Laker FO does not make much sense. Most of the time when something does not make sense, think of money and follow the money.

    The Lakers have that big money contract with Time Warner. The thing most fans do not know is that the amount of money earned by the Lakers depends on TV ratings. People will tune in just to watch Kobrick. Even though this causes the Lakers to lose, the FO wants the income. With Kobrick’s 25M/yr. the Lakers could get 3 really good players that could actually play NBA basketball. Think about it. If you replaced Kobrick with 3 really good players, the Lakers could suddenly become a competitive team then the money would follow.

    Jim Buss can’t do anything about this since Jeanie Buss was responsible for giving Kobrick the bucks. She did this for purely income reasons (business) without regard for building a competitive team. The sad part of this is that Jim Buss gets the blame and Jeanie gets to keep her job. Does this sound familiar in normal corporate life. No superstar will play for the Lakers until Kobrick is completely gone. This is the sad truth of what the Lakers have become without Dr. Buss. My feeling is that if the Lakers dump Kobrick and become competitive, they will return to the championships faster that you would believe and the money will follow

  • I know that what is going on with the Laker FO does not make much sense. Most of the time when something does not make sense, think of money and follow the money.

    The Lakers have that big money contract with Time Warner. The thing most fans do not know is that the amount of money earned by the Lakers depends on TV ratings. People will tune in just to watch Kobrick. Even though this causes the Lakers to lose, the FO wants the income. With Kobrick’s 25M/yr. the Lakers could get 3 really good players that could actually play NBA basketball. Think about it. If you replaced Kobrick with 3 really good players, the Lakers could suddenly become a competitive team then the money would follow.

    Jim Buss can’t do anything about this since Jeanie Buss was responsible for giving Kobrick the bucks. She did this for purely income reasons (business) without regard for building a competitive team. The sad part of this is that Jim Buss gets the blame and Jeanie gets to keep her job. Does this sound familiar in normal corporate life. No superstar will play for the Lakers until Kobrick is completely gone. This is the sad truth of what the Lakers have become without Dr. Buss. My feeling is that if the Lakers dump Kobrick and become competitive, they will return to the championships faster that you would believe and the money will follow

  • Naw, i doubt Kobe will have the ball in his hands that much. It will be in Clarkson and Russell hands more Kobe will be spotting up or posting up…occasionally bringing the ball up.

  • With kobe the team has some hope.
    Without kobe, it’s a 30 win season.

    Are you a lakers fan?
    – Doesn’t seem like it.

  • take the charge. if clarkson realized he lost the ball, take the charge. I also think we will need young’s offensive skill, dude is a true offensive player. Not sure what fundamental skills, like passing u want improving? LW is pg, the general, who does the distributing . . ..and I was the first option on offense too. I’m fairly certain, that is Young’s role, shoot. But yeah, lets c what Raptors got tonight !!!

  • Naw, i doubt Kobe will have the ball in his hands that much. It will be in Clarkson and Russell hands more Kobe will be spotting up or posting up…occasionally bringing the ball up.

  • With kobe the team has some hope.
    Without kobe, it’s a 30 win season.

    Are you a lakers fan?
    – Doesn’t seem like it.

  • take the charge. if clarkson realized he lost the ball, take the charge. I also think we will need young’s offensive skill, dude is a true offensive player. Not sure what fundamental skills, like passing u want improving? LW is pg, the general, who does the distributing . . ..and I was the first option on offense too. I’m fairly certain, that is Young’s role, shoot. But yeah, lets c what Raptors got tonight !!!

  • Much like a guy named joshhh who has 4 sentence s in his entire vocabulary. …. maybe he’s not a delusional retard, but he sure seems to post like an uneducated one.

  • Much like a guy named joshhh who has 4 sentences in his entire vocabulary. …. maybe he’s not a delusional retard, but he sure seems to post like an uneducated one.

  • Everybody can agree that kelly was being played out of position all last year and that has definitely hurt him in the fans eyes. However i think he can bounce back from the sophmore slump and he is the only big that can spread the floor out to the three point and let players like kobe randle(post Play) and even clarkson and lou(drive and kick) have room in the paint to work.

  • Everybody can agree that kelly was being played out of position all last year and that has definitely hurt him in the fans eyes. However i think he can bounce back from the sophmore slump and he is the only big that can spread the floor out to the three point and let players like kobe randle(post Play) and even clarkson and lou(drive and kick) have room in the paint to work.

  • The quality is definitely better there. But all those ads can give your comp problems if you miss the (x) and end up clicking the ad itself

    This last preseason game…I think there was 2000 viewers. Minor lag here and there. But I think the biggest problem is the live chat. You can hide it, but you can’t stop it. So, your connection is constantly being bombarded with idiotic messages.

  • The quality is definitely better there. But all those ads can give your comp problems if you miss the (x) and end up clicking the ad itself

    This last preseason game…I think there was 2000 viewers. Minor lag here and there. But I think the biggest problem is the live chat. You can hide it, but you can’t stop it. So, your connection is constantly being bombarded with idiotic messages.

  • The team isn’t getting more than 37 wins this year and is rebuilding a Championship roster.

    You might as well come to terms and stop pouting.

  • The team isn’t getting more than 37 wins this year and is rebuilding a Championship roster.

    You might as well come to terms and stop pouting.

  • By no means am i saying he should start or even warrant significant minutes but i do think he has shown that he has talent enough to beat out some undrafted rookies for a roster spot. He has looked good to me through preseason and in the scrimage films so i say he needs 1 more year to prove his worth.

  • By no means am i saying he should start or even warrant significant minutes but i do think he has shown that he has talent enough to beat out some undrafted rookies for a roster spot. He has looked good to me through preseason and in the scrimage films so i say he needs 1 more year to prove his worth.

  • Huh?
    Kobe said that SF was the best position for him now. And Metta plays PF in the princeton.

    – seems like you are living in 2012 bro…. catch up.

  • Huh?
    Kobe said that SF was the best position for him now. And Metta plays PF in the princeton.

    – seems like you are living in 2012 bro…. catch up.

  • Please explain “Kobrick”…
    A brick is when you miss the rim or take a horribly bad shot.

    I’m not sure either definition of “brick” applies to kobe.

    Ignorance.

  • Please explain “Kobrick”…
    A brick is when you miss the rim or take a horribly bad shot.

    I’m not sure either definition of “brick” applies to kobe.

    Ignorance.

  • as it stands TODAY, If game on line? I would have to go with LW, Swag, KB, Upshaw & Hibbert. this would apply, as of today, should be ot, or final shot situations. Swag is fearless, confident and just waiting to have that breakout game. Swag was hurt last yr too! missed what 37 games, like KB. so I really feel, that break out game for the swag, is gonna happen, this season, if not TODAY. Go Lakers, beat Raptors

  • as it stands TODAY, If game on line? I would have to go with LW, Swag, KB, Upshaw & Hibbert. this would apply, as of today, should be ot, or final shot situations. Swag is fearless, confident and just waiting to have that breakout game. Swag was hurt last yr too! missed what 37 games, like KB. so I really feel, that break out game for the swag, is gonna happen, this season, if not TODAY. Go Lakers, beat Raptors

  • This team won’t make the playoffs until sacre and Kelly are gone. You’re only as strong as your weakest players

  • This team won’t make the playoffs until sacre and Kelly are gone. You’re only as strong as your weakest players

  • We need bigs that board and defend off the bench imo. I can understand his presence at the 3 point line…but his minutes would be small if one of them bigs play like they should.

  • What is the point of your rant?

    To show that some Armchair GM pretends to know more about running a team, the business of basketball, and the dynamics of the NBA than paid professionals with years of experience?

    – Do you feel better now that you let it out? I think it’s nap time, someone’s cranky.

  • We need bigs that board and defend off the bench imo. I can understand his presence at the 3 point line…but his minutes would be small if one of them bigs play like they should.

  • What is the point of your rant?

    To show that some Armchair GM pretends to know more about running a team, the business of basketball, and the dynamics of the NBA than paid professionals with years of experience?

    – Do you feel better now that you let it out? I think it’s nap time, someone’s cranky.

  • idk . . . i just don’t know bro. . . Off the topic, a bit . . . But isn’t dub z short for the Gst warriors? jw bro, thx

  • idk . . . i just don’t know bro. . . Off the topic, a bit . . . But isn’t dub z short for the Gst warriors? jw bro, thx

  • I can appreciate the optimism, but the only way they win 45-50 games is if several Western Conference teams take a step back.

  • A hahaha you fuckers have been saying that the past few years, guess what you’ll be wrong again

  • which i would say they did.

    por, dal, pho are all worse this season and i dont trust utah or nor or sac

  • I can appreciate the optimism, but the only way they win 45-50 games is if several Western Conference teams take a step back.

  • A hahaha you fuckers have been saying that the past few years, guess what you’ll be wrong again

  • which i would say they did.

    por, dal, pho are all worse this season and i dont trust utah or nor or sac

  • I want to believe…. but I geeked out, ran a bunch of stats and analysis last night and I can’t say the same.

    First, the team had THE toughest schedule (SoS) based on last year.

    Second, 45 wins would double (and then some) last year’s total. No team has ever done that, and while Kobe, Hibbert and Williams are upgrades, they aren’t 20 game upgrades.

    In fact, my number crunching said 29 wins, which is in line with every analyst prediction and Vegas betting lines. <-Last year only 1 team significantly beat the Vegas odds, and that was by 5 "extra" wins.

    So despite the odds that say 37 wins is basically "statistically" improbable, I am comfortable posting that number. 41 is a .500 ball club, but that seems very far fetched, but I believe and think that if everything goes right, mitch pulls a miracle trade, and the stars align it is possible.

    My job is to live and die by numbers and make analysis…. I can't really disregard my own finding, profession, and abilities and make the stretch to "playoffs." <- I tried everything possible to get my model to say differently….. and I was really bummed that I couldn't.

  • I want to believe…. but I geeked out, ran a bunch of stats and analysis last night and I can’t say the same.

    First, the team had THE toughest schedule (SoS) based on last year.

    Second, 45 wins would double (and then some) last year’s total. No team has ever done that, and while Kobe, Hibbert and Williams are upgrades, they aren’t 20 game upgrades.

    In fact, my number crunching said 29 wins, which is in line with every analyst prediction and Vegas betting lines. <-Last year only 1 team significantly beat the Vegas odds, and that was by 5 "extra" wins.

    So despite the odds that say 37 wins is basically "statistically" improbable, I am comfortable posting that number. 41 is a .500 ball club, but that seems very far fetched, but I believe and think that if everything goes right, mitch pulls a miracle trade, and the stars align it is possible.

    My job is to live and die by numbers and make analysis…. I can't really disregard my own finding, profession, and abilities and make the stretch to "playoffs." <- I tried everything possible to get my model to say differently….. and I was really bummed that I couldn't.

  • i cant argue with the numbers because i have not done them my self but the bos celts had a 42 game win increase in 08 from 25 to 67

  • i cant argue with the numbers because i have not done them my self but the bos celts had a 42 game win increase in 08 from 25 to 67

  • why are u stating these “facts” when no one asked for them or even posted about titles?

  • why are u stating these “facts” when no one asked for them or even posted about titles?

  • Holmes, Upshaw and Huertas are the only guys who haven’t played yet….and Huertas probably would have if he had immigration dox together.

    That’s clearing the bench to me and I’d bet money there’s a reason those guys are still waiting for their “extended minutes” behind everybody else.

  • Holmes, Upshaw and Huertas are the only guys who haven’t played yet….and Huertas probably would have if he had immigration dox together.

    That’s clearing the bench to me and I’d bet money there’s a reason those guys are still waiting for their “extended minutes” behind everybody else.

  • my other issue is the fact that this team was 7-8 with kobe and young mildly healthy last season all wile playing the toughest scheduel in the league. 7-8 would turn into about 35 wins over a full season.

    so if im going by those numbers a full season of helahy kobe and nick is 35ish wins i could see ten wins added by the addition of lou hibbert and bass

  • my other issue is the fact that this team was 7-8 with kobe and young mildly healthy last season all wile playing the toughest scheduel in the league. 7-8 would turn into about 35 wins over a full season.

    so if im going by those numbers a full season of helahy kobe and nick is 35ish wins i could see ten wins added by the addition of lou hibbert and bass

  • Crappy front office issue there but just two more yrs left with this out of date staff.

  • Crappy front office issue there but just two more yrs left with this out of date staff.

  • Many of these non-guaranteed players haven’t impressed. Might as well cut 4-6 players in the next few weeks which includes Sacre and kelly.

  • Many of these non-guaranteed players haven’t impressed. Might as well cut 4-6 players in the next few weeks which includes Sacre and kelly.

  • WOW !! So, what u may be saying is: If I follow the $$, I’ll get my frustration alleviated? Let me then, think out side the box 4 a minute, and say: When Dr B had his dream, either materializing or beginning to blossom into a LA Dynasty Dr B doesn’t want to be here anymore, and Miss Jeanie takes over. If following the $$, it was a poor decision putting Miss Jeanie in Charge then. If I could empathize with Miss Jeanie, here is what I come up with: Miss Jeanie has no BB sense, only sees the $$ of the Laker Business side. Sorta like the Prodigal son with reversed gender of course, who took the King’s $$, squandered it because of bad business decisions. So if Miss Jeanie, only sees the $$, whose running the BB side of the Laker business then? I know an nba team has many sides, but none more important than the BB side, which in the nba brings in the $$. So good nba teams is followed ever so closely by the $$. A solution? Get Miss Jeanie away from the $$. Because the $$ controls the decisions of the BB side of the Business. Solution: marry Miss Jeanie off to Phil Jackson, and send her far, far away into the heart of montana. If Miss Jeanie is major shareholder, the Boss, that is a problem in getting Miss Jeanie away from the $$. The only thing us Laker FAITHFUL can do is boycott all Laker Games, until Miss Jeanie is gone. But in any case, it makes sense then if Miss Jeanie is controlling the Lakers, that Miss Jeanie would hire and turn lose a mitch. And mitch would hire Byron and a madsen – outside of byron Miss Jeanie has allowed some poor, poor decisions for a RICH gal – thx

  • WOW !! So, what u may be saying is: If I follow the $$, I’ll get my frustration alleviated? Let me then, think out side the box 4 a minute, and say: When Dr B had his dream, either materializing or beginning to blossom into a LA Dynasty Dr B doesn’t want to be here anymore, and Miss Jeanie takes over. If following the $$, it was a poor decision putting Miss Jeanie in Charge then. If I could empathize with Miss Jeanie, here is what I come up with: Miss Jeanie has no BB sense, only sees the $$ of the Laker Business side. Sorta like the Prodigal son with reversed gender of course, who took the King’s $$, squandered it because of bad business decisions. So if Miss Jeanie, only sees the $$, whose running the BB side of the Laker business then? I know an nba team has many sides, but none more important than the BB side, which in the nba brings in the $$. So good nba teams is followed ever so closely by the $$. A solution? Get Miss Jeanie away from the $$. Because the $$ controls the decisions of the BB side of the Business. Solution: marry Miss Jeanie off to Phil Jackson, and send her far, far away into the heart of montana. If Miss Jeanie is major shareholder, the Boss, that is a problem in getting Miss Jeanie away from the $$. The only thing us Laker FAITHFUL can do is boycott all Laker Games, until Miss Jeanie is gone. But in any case, it makes sense then if Miss Jeanie is controlling the Lakers, that Miss Jeanie would hire and turn lose a mitch. And mitch would hire Byron and a madsen – outside of byron Miss Jeanie has allowed some poor, poor decisions for a RICH gal – thx

  • I’m hoping that’s the case.
    i want to see a rotation of Black and Upshaw soon im done with Sacre

  • I’m hoping that’s the case.
    i want to see a rotation of Black and Upshaw soon im done with Sacre

  • When a locomotive runs it always starts at a slow pace until it gets its momentum. We are not looking for wins although it’s ok if we have one. Pre season games are always for evaluation of a player before you send him to the front. It will be a grueling battle specially here on the West. So we must choose carefully and wisely. Some where along this roster there will always be another gem.

  • When a locomotive runs it always starts at a slow pace until it gets its momentum. We are not looking for wins although it’s ok if we have one. Pre season games are always for evaluation of a player before you send him to the front. It will be a grueling battle specially here on the West. So we must choose carefully and wisely. Some where along this roster there will always be another gem.

  • For the reason mentioned per what Byron Scott has said. He wants to play them extended minutes. They’ve only played 2 games. Only so many minutes in a game obviously and he probably had a set roster of people he wanted to work with each game. I don’t think he wanted to work Sacre in the last game, nor expected it to reach OT.

    If you also noticed, Black played the first game, not the second. He also didn’t play Jabari Brown despite playing him in the first game as well. First game MWP, Nance Jr didn’t play, nor did Frazier.

    Tonights game I think you get Upshaw, Holmes while Bass probably sits. Anthony Brown and Frazier will probably sit again while Jabari Brown plays. Sacre and Kelly I’m guessing also sit.

  • For the reason mentioned per what Byron Scott has said. He wants to play them extended minutes. They’ve only played 2 games. Only so many minutes in a game obviously and he probably had a set roster of people he wanted to work with each game. I don’t think he wanted to work Sacre in the last game, nor expected it to reach OT.

    If you also noticed, Black played the first game, not the second. He also didn’t play Jabari Brown despite playing him in the first game as well. First game MWP, Nance Jr didn’t play, nor did Frazier.

    Tonights game I think you get Upshaw, Holmes while Bass probably sits. Anthony Brown and Frazier will probably sit again while Jabari Brown plays. Sacre and Kelly I’m guessing also sit.

  • Not if it means no MWP or Upshaw.

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Kobe/Young/MWP/A Brown
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    14 there and no room for Kelly. Don’t need him. Need to use the 15th spot for a guard or keep it open in case we need to bring in another player such as a guard in case of injury in the future.

  • Not if it means no MWP or Upshaw.

    Russell/Huertas
    Clarkson/Williams
    Kobe/Young/MWP/A Brown
    Randle/Bass/Nance Jr
    Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

    14 there and no room for Kelly. Don’t need him. Need to use the 15th spot for a guard or keep it open in case we need to bring in another player such as a guard in case of injury in the future.

  • no drugs, low 139 iQ, i want to retake. . . but r you ? Talk to me around March about how great DR is then, my bro. Chances will be, Lou will still be saving the day, while ur paper project DR is STILL trying to get it right . . . After raptors game tonight, I may even add ur man clarkson, to my d league list. SCRAP list today, includes: DRussell, scare, kelly FOR SURE. Tittering list (almost to scrap list): Frazier, Nance, MWP, J. Brown. Bench list: Clarkson, Randall, Black, Bass, Hueratas, Anthony Brown. Start: Lou, Swag, KB, Upshaw, Hibbert. – Beat Raptors

  • no drugs, low 139 iQ, i want to retake. . . but r you ? Talk to me around March about how great DR is then, my bro. Chances will be, Lou will still be saving the day, while ur paper project DR is STILL trying to get it right . . . After raptors game tonight, I may even add ur man clarkson, to my d league list. SCRAP list today, includes: DRussell, scare, kelly FOR SURE. Tittering list (almost to scrap list): Frazier, Nance, MWP, J. Brown. Bench list: Clarkson, Randall, Black, Bass, Hueratas, Anthony Brown. Start: Lou, Swag, KB, Upshaw, Hibbert. – Beat Raptors

  • Yeah the x’s fuck me up sometimes (I click on the wrong one) and another page pops up. I have AdBlock tho so at least there are no shitty ads like on those spanish streaming websites that require you to turn off your AdBlock, and you can block the live chat with it too.

  • Yeah the x’s fuck me up sometimes (I click on the wrong one) and another page pops up. I have AdBlock tho so at least there are no shitty ads like on those spanish streaming websites that require you to turn off your AdBlock, and you can block the live chat with it too.

  • Yeah, I want to be a Clarkson fan too. He may not have won us a championship last yr, but I do see some potential – go Clarkson, beat Raptors.

  • Yeah, I want to be a Clarkson fan too. He may not have won us a championship last yr, but I do see some potential – go Clarkson, beat Raptors.

  • I can come up with a number of reasons, all that point to him simply being a loser.

  • I can come up with a number of reasons, all that point to him simply being a loser.

  • All Upshaw has to do is continue to prove he can defend, maybe generate a bit of offense, show he’s got something more to give than Suckre.

  • All Upshaw has to do is continue to prove he can defend, maybe generate a bit of offense, show he’s got something more to give than Suckre.

  • You sure type like you have some form of mental illness. Are you kin to Miss Cleo by any chance? How do you know my stance on DR? Have you asked? No. You aren’t doing yourself any favors with your inability to string together a coherent sentence.

  • You sure type like you have some form of mental illness. Are you kin to Miss Cleo by any chance? How do you know my stance on DR? Have you asked? No. You aren’t doing yourself any favors with your inability to string together a coherent sentence.

  • yeah, not too good with sarcasm. . . But what is your gut feeling on using the d-league for getting our Rookies in game shape? While at D-League, they get to start, play 35 – 40 minutes, hone their skill, if I may?

  • yeah, not too good with sarcasm. . . But what is your gut feeling on using the d-league for getting our Rookies in game shape? While at D-League, they get to start, play 35 – 40 minutes, hone their skill, if I may?

  • I really hope they give Russell minutes, ’cause I don’t want Russell to start thinking with that “soft NBA player” mentality, give him as many minutes as possible just like we did with Clarkson.

  • I really hope they give Russell minutes, ’cause I don’t want Russell to start thinking with that “soft NBA player” mentality, give him as many minutes as possible just like we did with Clarkson.

  • cleo from the Laker girls? how do u kno her, btw. . . I really am waiting too on ur DR stance bro . . . I must be terribly missing something

  • cleo from the Laker girls? how do u kno her, btw. . . I really am waiting too on ur DR stance bro . . . I must be terribly missing something

  • From LA Times:

    Backup plan

    It might be the main position battle left for the Lakers: Which two centers will be kept to back up HIbbert?

    Tarik Black showed some spring in his game last season but is undersized for the position at 6 feet 9. Robert Sacre is a fun presence in the locker room but his offense lags his defense. Undrafted free agent Robert Upshaw has blocked a lot of shots in practice and, like Sacre, needs work on offense.

    Only two of the three will stay.

    Lakers fans are intrigued by the raw talent of Upshaw even though he didn’t play in either exhibition. The next one is Thursday against Toronto in Ontario, Calif.

    “He’s just go to wait his turn,” Scott said. “I’ve got so many bodies and I don’t want to give guys a two- or three-minute look. I don’t think that does them any good. I want to see them play extended minutes and that could be anywhere from eight to 15.”

    Scott wants improved post play and a better mid-range jumper from Black, along with something else.

    “The biggest thing I told him last year is that he’s just too nice,” Scott said. “He’s got to get some type of mean streak in him. If he does, then he could be a monster.”

    Sacre has the most experience and only fully guaranteed contract of the group, though the Lakers would eat his $981,000 salary if the other two centers were more impressive this month, according to a person familiar with the situation.

  • From LA Times:

    Backup plan

    It might be the main position battle left for the Lakers: Which two centers will be kept to back up HIbbert?

    Tarik Black showed some spring in his game last season but is undersized for the position at 6 feet 9. Robert Sacre is a fun presence in the locker room but his offense lags his defense. Undrafted free agent Robert Upshaw has blocked a lot of shots in practice and, like Sacre, needs work on offense.

    Only two of the three will stay.

    Lakers fans are intrigued by the raw talent of Upshaw even though he didn’t play in either exhibition. The next one is Thursday against Toronto in Ontario, Calif.

    “He’s just go to wait his turn,” Scott said. “I’ve got so many bodies and I don’t want to give guys a two- or three-minute look. I don’t think that does them any good. I want to see them play extended minutes and that could be anywhere from eight to 15.”

    Scott wants improved post play and a better mid-range jumper from Black, along with something else.

    “The biggest thing I told him last year is that he’s just too nice,” Scott said. “He’s got to get some type of mean streak in him. If he does, then he could be a monster.”

    Sacre has the most experience and only fully guaranteed contract of the group, though the Lakers would eat his $981,000 salary if the other two centers were more impressive this month, according to a person familiar with the situation.

  • there are 7 players you named on the roster that can play sg and 6 that can play pg. if none of the other young players show they are better then Kelly he should make the team.
    btw he would be a nice contract filler to add to a possible trade say bass, Kelly, mwp and 2 future second round picks for pau gasol later in the year

  • there are 7 players you named on the roster that can play sg and 6 that can play pg. if none of the other young players show they are better then Kelly he should make the team.
    btw he would be a nice contract filler to add to a possible trade say bass, Kelly, mwp and 2 future second round picks for pau gasol later in the year

  • his biggest issue is health if he can stay healthy he can play the issue is that he has been hurt each of the last 4-5 years that caused him to consistently miss basketball time

  • That’s interesting, I’d like to see your spread sheets and see what your draw down. Previously you were wayyyyy too optimistic and so I am curious how much of a nerd you are. BTw: remember when I named three factors that can get us to 44 wins.

    Two of them played like it in our 2nd game on Tuesday, at least if that holds up my guess 37 wins would make this season very entertaining to watch.

    “but I believe and think that if everything goes right, mitch pulls a miracle trade, and the stars align it is possible.”

    Serious question here:
    If you’re the GM would you pull a trade of Hibbert and Russell for Cousin?

    A front court of Randle and Cousins would beat up any team in the west and could possibly get us that playoff spot IMO.

  • his biggest issue is health if he can stay healthy he can play the issue is that he has been hurt each of the last 4-5 years that caused him to consistently miss basketball time

  • That’s interesting, I’d like to see your spread sheets and see what your draw down. Previously you were wayyyyy too optimistic and so I am curious how much of a nerd you are. BTw: remember when I named three factors that can get us to 44 wins.

    Two of them played like it in our 2nd game on Tuesday, at least if that holds up my guess 37 wins would make this season very entertaining to watch.

    “but I believe and think that if everything goes right, mitch pulls a miracle trade, and the stars align it is possible.”

    Serious question here:
    If you’re the GM would you pull a trade of Hibbert and Russell for Cousin?

    A front court of Randle and Cousins would beat up any team in the west and could possibly get us that playoff spot IMO.

  • MWP and Huertas will be better than Kelly and are the only non guaranteed guys. We don’t need Kelly to play SF, we have 5 guys of those that I listed that can play PF. MWP at SF can play PF, Black at C can play PF. In a small ball lineup, Brown probably could too. Russell, Clarkson, Williams, Kobe, Young and A Brown are all guaranteed contracts. So who on that list do you want to can? A skilled, pass first, crafty veteran PG in Huertas or the guy who helped the Lakers recover from a 19pt defense, instilled a defensive identity and is mentoring Julius Randle in MWP? I’m not willing to give up either.

  • MWP and Huertas will be better than Kelly and are the only non guaranteed guys. We don’t need Kelly to play SF, we have 5 guys of those that I listed that can play PF. MWP at SF can play PF, Black at C can play PF. In a small ball lineup, Brown probably could too. Russell, Clarkson, Williams, Kobe, Young and A Brown are all guaranteed contracts. So who on that list do you want to can? A skilled, pass first, crafty veteran PG in Huertas or the guy who helped the Lakers recover from a 19pt defense, instilled a defensive identity and is mentoring Julius Randle in MWP? I’m not willing to give up either.

  • Also forget Pau. That’s a pipe dream. Chicago isn’t going to trade him to us and the Lakers aren’t going to give up Bass or picks for a guy who no longer wanted to be with the franchise. What would we do with Pau then? Bench Hibbert? Bring him off the bench? He doesn’t make sense on the team. Chicago isn’t going to fork over a guy who is putting up nice numbers for Bass, a couple throw ins and couple picks that won’t matter much.

  • Also forget Pau. That’s a pipe dream. Chicago isn’t going to trade him to us and the Lakers aren’t going to give up Bass or picks for a guy who no longer wanted to be with the franchise. What would we do with Pau then? Bench Hibbert? Bring him off the bench? He doesn’t make sense on the team. Chicago isn’t going to fork over a guy who is putting up nice numbers for Bass, a couple throw ins and couple picks that won’t matter much.

  • This pathetic team of yours would be so bad and I’d be launching so hard by the end of the season when you delusional fanboys start backtracking your comments today on how bad this team is kinda like every year ;D

  • This pathetic team of yours would be so bad and I’d be launching so hard by the end of the season when you delusional fanboys start backtracking your comments today on how bad this team is kinda like every year ;D

  • LAKERS SHOULD HAVE GAMBLED IN 2015 DRAFT:

    Pick D’Angelo Russell, and trade with 76ers for Jahlil Okafor and Lakers 2016 top 3 protected #1 pick.

    Trade Clarkson and the 2016 #1 pick to Denver for Emanual Mudiay.

    Trade Julius Randle for Stanley Johnson or Justice Winslow.

    Trade the #27 and #34 to move up for Devon Booker. Throw in some cash or 2016 second round pick.

    I would have resigned Ed Davis.

  • LAKERS SHOULD HAVE GAMBLED IN 2015 DRAFT:

    Pick D’Angelo Russell, and trade with 76ers for Jahlil Okafor and Lakers 2016 top 3 protected #1 pick.

    Trade Clarkson and the 2016 #1 pick to Denver for Emanual Mudiay.

    Trade Julius Randle for Stanley Johnson or Justice Winslow.

    Trade the #27 and #34 to move up for Devon Booker. Throw in some cash or 2016 second round pick.

    I would have resigned Ed Davis.

  • I don’t think you’re seeing the forest through the trees — those guys are still waiting for their extended minutes because they haven’t earned them in practice.

    Bottom line is both Holmes and Upshaw are projects that would probably be better served playing every day in the D-League as opposed to sitting at the end of the bench waiting for an injury or garbage time.

  • I don’t think you’re seeing the forest through the trees — those guys are still waiting for their extended minutes because they haven’t earned them in practice.

    Bottom line is both Holmes and Upshaw are projects that would probably be better served playing every day in the D-League as opposed to sitting at the end of the bench waiting for an injury or garbage time.

  • I can see the forest through the trees just fine. It is as Byron said. As far as them in the D-League, let me school you. If a player signs with the D-League, ANY TEAM can sign him away from the D-League. Any. If the Lakers have a man on their 15 man roster and send him to the D-League, he can stay in the D-League for however long they want him to and not worry about teams signing him away. He’s a Laker. If you keep Upshaw and possibly Holmes, and you don’t want to risk them getting signed away, you keep them on your 15 and you send them to the D-League. You can only have 12 at the ready on the floor come game time. You have 3 extra spots for injury or otherwise. A team can send up to 2 players at a time I believe to the D-League. Upshaw you keep, Holmes you let sign with the DFenders and if a need arises that you need him and he’s looking good enough, you add him to your 15.

    Some how I doubt those guys are being lazy in practice and haven’t earned minutes. When you’re looking to earn a spot on the team, you’re busting your ass to do so. Otherwise you’re wasting the teams time and you get cut early.

  • I can see the forest through the trees just fine. It is as Byron said. As far as them in the D-League, let me school you. If a player signs with the D-League, ANY TEAM can sign him away from the D-League. Any. If the Lakers have a man on their 15 man roster and send him to the D-League, he can stay in the D-League for however long they want him to and not worry about teams signing him away. He’s a Laker. If you keep Upshaw and possibly Holmes, and you don’t want to risk them getting signed away, you keep them on your 15 and you send them to the D-League. You can only have 12 at the ready on the floor come game time. You have 3 extra spots for injury or otherwise. A team can send up to 2 players at a time I believe to the D-League. Upshaw you keep, Holmes you let sign with the DFenders and if a need arises that you need him and he’s looking good enough, you add him to your 15.

    Some how I doubt those guys are being lazy in practice and haven’t earned minutes. When you’re looking to earn a spot on the team, you’re busting your ass to do so. Otherwise you’re wasting the teams time and you get cut early.

  • Looking it that way you have a point, but it would be nice to start the season off right.

  • Looking it that way you have a point, but it would be nice to start the season off right.

  • You’ve got to be joking? Lavine is straight up fools gold. To light, and jacks up (I do mean jacks up) 2-12 shooting. He’ll just be a slasher and put back guy, nothing more. You can easily stop these guys, by crowding the paint.

  • You’ve got to be joking? Lavine is straight up fools gold. To light, and jacks up (I do mean jacks up) 2-12 shooting. He’ll just be a slasher and put back guy, nothing more. You can easily stop these guys, by crowding the paint.

  • Lavine has a better 3.. He is more athletic wich is really saying somthing, clarkson might be a better finisher when slashing and is seemingly developing the 3 but Levine and him are equals until clarkson starts making a name at the 3 line it’d also help russle get some assists..

  • Lavine has a better 3.. He is more athletic wich is really saying somthing, clarkson might be a better finisher when slashing and is seemingly developing the 3 but Levine and him are equals until clarkson starts making a name at the 3 line it’d also help russle get some assists..

  • Ummm, Upshaw and Holmes already have multi-year deals…they can’t “sign” with a d-league team and even if they could, why would they? They already have NBA contracts. If the Lakers think they’re worth developing they will assign them to d-fenders…just like they did with Clarkson.

    If the Lakers release them from said contracts, then they obviously don’t care if they sign with another team, nor should we.

    And no, not earning minutes in practice doesn’t mean you’re lazy, it just means you haven’t shown the coaches enough to force their hands…it can also mean there’s a lot of competition for the spot.

    It’s that pesky forest again dude. Trust me…it’s there.

  • Ummm, Upshaw and Holmes already have multi-year deals…they can’t “sign” with a d-league team and even if they could, why would they? They already have NBA contracts. If the Lakers think they’re worth developing they will assign them to d-fenders…just like they did with Clarkson.

    If the Lakers release them from said contracts, then they obviously don’t care if they sign with another team, nor should we.

    And no, not earning minutes in practice doesn’t mean you’re lazy, it just means you haven’t shown the coaches enough to force their hands…it can also mean there’s a lot of competition for the spot.

    It’s that pesky forest again dude. Trust me…it’s there.

  • I was gonna save this “mind blowing” stat for an article about Clarkson but just saw on Access Sport’s net… Chris Palmer “bleacher report” : #46 pick Jordan Clarkson per 36 min. Averaged more points, rebounds, steals, and assist then #1 pick Andrew Wiggins….
    Still doubting Clarkson????

  • I was gonna save this “mind blowing” stat for an article about Clarkson but just saw on Access Sport’s net… Chris Palmer “bleacher report” : #46 pick Jordan Clarkson per 36 min. Averaged more points, rebounds, steals, and assist then #1 pick Andrew Wiggins….
    Still doubting Clarkson????

  • FOR ALL YOU CLARKSON DOUBTERS:I was gonna save this “mind blowing” stat for an article about Clarkson but just saw on Access Sport’s net… Chris Palmer “bleacher report” : #46 pick Jordan Clarkson per 36 min. Averaged more points, rebounds, steals, and assist then #1 pick Andrew Wiggins….
    Still doubting Clarkson????

  • FOR ALL YOU CLARKSON DOUBTERS:I was gonna save this “mind blowing” stat for an article about Clarkson but just saw on Access Sport’s net… Chris Palmer “bleacher report” : #46 pick Jordan Clarkson per 36 min. Averaged more points, rebounds, steals, and assist then #1 pick Andrew Wiggins….
    Still doubting Clarkson????

  • Nice. Let Me watch, toronto game bro – then I’ll have a better position. #try’n2bJCfan. lol

  • Nice. Let Me watch, toronto game bro – then I’ll have a better position. #try’n2bJCfan. lol

  • I was gonna save this “mind blowing” stat for an article about Clarkson but just saw on Access Sport’s net… Chris Palmer “bleacher report” : #46 pick Jordan Clarkson per 36 min. Averaged more points, rebounds, steals, and assist then #1 pick Andrew Wiggins….

  • I was gonna save this “mind blowing” stat for an article about Clarkson but just saw on Access Sport’s net… Chris Palmer “bleacher report” : #46 pick Jordan Clarkson per 36 min. Averaged more points, rebounds, steals, and assist then #1 pick Andrew Wiggins….

  • Well, first half for Jclarkson = C+ Why, did a fairly solid first qtr, scoring, cutting to basket, trying to direct team – little weak, not sure about “D” I’ll have to re-watch. so a C+, even with that horrible last play of JC, what 4 on 1? Swag was WIDE open bro. Trying to be a fan.

  • Well, first half for Jclarkson = C+ Why, did a fairly solid first qtr, scoring, cutting to basket, trying to direct team – little weak, not sure about “D” I’ll have to re-watch. so a C+, even with that horrible last play of JC, what 4 on 1? Swag was WIDE open bro. Trying to be a fan.

  • it would be part of a bigger trade which is likely in chi because of the log jam at the pf/c position.

    pau would be our bench pf/c replacing bass

  • it would be part of a bigger trade which is likely in chi because of the log jam at the pf/c position.

    pau would be our bench pf/c replacing bass

  • Toronto – If LW is compared, with LW 19 pts, great General abilities – then I think JC may have been smashed bro. I like JC as a person, very likable kid, but more of off the bench type player at this point, if comparing to Lou. Lou has control speed, which JC is getting; Lou can SCORE, which JC is hesitate; Lou is commanding General, while compared to JC – makes JC appear quite. Start LW at PG, Bro.

  • Toronto – If LW is compared, with LW 19 pts, great General abilities – then I think JC may have been smashed bro. I like JC as a person, very likable kid, but more of off the bench type player at this point, if comparing to Lou. Lou has control speed, which JC is getting; Lou can SCORE, which JC is hesitate; Lou is commanding General, while compared to JC – makes JC appear quite. Start LW at PG, Bro.

  • U want future “SHOWTIME”? Big Upshaw 21 yo; Randle 21 yo and Ur man Clarkson 23 yo. Now that is a Trip !! Go out hunting, hunting Bro for a SOLID young PG; and another young BIG 7’0″.

  • U want future “SHOWTIME”? Big Upshaw 21 yo; Randle 21 yo and Ur man Clarkson 23 yo. Now that is a Trip !! Go out hunting, hunting Bro for a SOLID young PG; and another young BIG 7’0″.

  • SACRE AND KELLEY Tick… Tick…Tick…Tick… Upshaw’s real last name is UPSHOW.

  • OK, Clarkson is doing very very well, Hibbert is looking almost like the Hibbert of old & Randal looks awesome at times) so why aren’t they winning, I guess it will take time to get the lineup straight & the guys used to playing with each other.

  • OK, Clarkson is doing very very well, Hibbert is looking almost like the Hibbert of old & Randal looks awesome at times) so why aren’t they winning, I guess it will take time to get the lineup straight & the guys used to playing with each other.

  • They have non guaranteed multi year deals. Their deal goes, they get X amount of dollars for joining the Lakers training camp. The Lakers can then cut them with no guarantee for making the NBA minimum for a rookie (around $525k). If the Lakers opt to keep them, they then hold the option to keep them on again next year. The multi year part. So if the Lakers opt not to guarantee their deals, they could sign with a D-League team. The Lakers would have to guarantee their deals and assign them to the D-League like they did Clarkson.

  • They have non guaranteed multi year deals. Their deal goes, they get X amount of dollars for joining the Lakers training camp. The Lakers can then cut them with no guarantee for making the NBA minimum for a rookie (around $525k). If the Lakers opt to keep them, they then hold the option to keep them on again next year. The multi year part. So if the Lakers opt not to guarantee their deals, they could sign with a D-League team. The Lakers would have to guarantee their deals and assign them to the D-League like they did Clarkson.

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