Byron Scott Won’t Play D’Angelo Russell ‘Just Because He’s The No. 2 Pick’
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Los Angeles Lakers head coach Byron Scott has come under a lot of scrutiny recently for his handling of second overall pick D’Angelo Russell.

The rookie sitting out the fourth quarter in three of the Lakers’ eight games so far has been a particular source of frustration for fans.

Scott, however, insists that he is doing this to help Russell’s development. According to ESPN’s Baxter Holmes, Scott refuses to just throw Russell out there before he is ready, regardless of his draft position:

Mark Medina of the LA Daily News noted that Scott is happy with the work Russell is putting in, but just doesn’t want to overload the rookie:

Scott is in a very tough situation in how he handles Russell’s development. Many are expecting immediate results from Russell, especially when seeing his fellow 2015 draftees such as Karl-Anthony Towns, Jahlil Okafor, and Kristaps Porzingis have excellent games so early into the season.

Russell is not as physically developed as some of his contemporaries, and that is surely part of the reason he is struggling early. Whether or not Scott is handling Russell the right way regarding his development will be found out in due time, but it surely seems as if Scott is prioritizing it, even if some don’t agree with his methods.

Trust me Scott you just need to shift Russell over to SG in the 4Q; that would relieve some of the pressure off of him when the defenses are ramping up to put more pressure on the ball handler.

  1. i would much rather have seen a P&R with clarkson with Russel waiting on a kickout for the last play.

  2. BS sees his PGs – JC going 100 mph. DR going 15 mph. In between is Lou. Lou and JC are better at breaking down defenses when they ramp up.

    I like to see more what Spurs are doing. Every possession, the ball is at mid court within 4 secs. They get 3 passes within 15secs mark. No time for teams to pressure the ball since it’s always moving.

      1. I’m almost positive Pop would be licking his chops with a roster like this while still being old school enough to whip the rookies into having the right mindset.

    1. seriously. I’ve seen so many plays this year where they move the ball and get really good looks, but they cannot stay consistent with it for some reason.

    2. I like listening to you when you are sober, JB….:-)

      Among other differences, the Spurs have Leonard and LMA to keep defenses honest. Randle has never had a J and Kobe lost his somewhere. I don’t know what to do about that.

  • Trust me Scott you just need to shift Russell over to SG in the 4Q; that would relieve some of the pressure off of him when the defenses are ramping up to put more pressure on the ball handler.

    1. i would much rather have seen a P&R with clarkson with Russel waiting on a kickout for the last play.

    2. BS sees his PGs – JC going 100 mph. DR going 15 mph. In between is Lou. Lou and JC are better at breaking down defenses when they ramp up.

      I like to see more what Spurs are doing. Every possession, the ball is at mid court within 4 secs. They get 3 passes within 15secs mark. No time for teams to pressure the ball since it’s always moving.

        1. I’m almost positive Pop would be licking his chops with a roster like this while still being old school enough to whip the rookies into having the right mindset.

      1. seriously. I’ve seen so many plays this year where they move the ball and get really good looks, but they cannot stay consistent with it for some reason.

      2. I like listening to you when you are sober, JB….:-)

        Among other differences, the Spurs have Leonard and LMA to keep defenses honest. Randle has never had a J and Kobe lost his somewhere. I don’t know what to do about that.

  • Yea, but you want to make sure that he’s developing, right? At least Scott is playing him in the fourth quarter for a start. Scott needs to understand that we’re not going to win it all this season. I know it’s great to have a winner’s mentality, but for this season, take it down a notch or two. This is a young core that we need to develop and for them to be thrown in the fire, or water, whether they could sink or swim. In fairness, implement that kind of personality to each and every one of these boys on the team because they need to feel what it’s like to lose (which we are), and how it feels to win an NBA game. Playoffs comes later, as in 2-3 years. We’re not making noise this year and next.

  • Yea, but you want to make sure that he’s developing, right? At least Scott is playing him in the fourth quarter for a start. Scott needs to understand that we’re not going to win it all this season. I know it’s great to have a winner’s mentality, but for this season, take it down a notch or two. This is a young core that we need to develop and for them to be thrown in the fire, or water, whether they could sink or swim. In fairness, implement that kind of personality to each and every one of these boys on the team because they need to feel what it’s like to lose (which we are), and how it feels to win an NBA game. Playoffs comes later, as in 2-3 years. We’re not making noise this year and next.

  • Based on Hibbert’s post game interview it sounds like the team is in full development mode now. Which I think is the right call. I am excited! Ceiling so high for some many of our guys.

        1. Yea, I mean, I believe the only reason the Lakers keep giving Kobe the minutes is because of that contract of his. If he decides to sit out the rest of the season and mentor these guys, that’s good in a way, but for 25 million? Really? I think that’s the only logical option they have in terms of putting that contract to use. Maybe sit him out a couple more games, I’d say 10 games throughout the season, and then mentor these guys. But it is what it is. Ludicrous, controversial, it’s what it is man.

          1. At least KB is around the team and talking to the guys helping them learn in the games. Much better ROI than we got with Nash. That guy took his money and ran (literaly playing soccer when he was supposedly hurt). IMHO Kobe does deserve a payday for what he has brought to the Lakers over the years. Guys that are not even close to the level of the player that Kobe was are going to be cashing in larger contracts than he has now over the next couple years. It was a monitary thank you to arguably the best Laker to ever play, and the one that kept them relevant over the past 20yrs.

          1. …except whenever the “White Elephant” is on the court. He warps this team just by being in town. Maybe they operated on the wrong shoulder.

    1. D’angelo, Nance, Randle. I love our future. I still think we have to trade Clarkson, man.

        1. Yep. To me he is more effective as a PG. I love the kid, but i think he can play more for other organization. And for us, we can grab a big fish if we trow Clarkson, Lou and Bass.

          1. Might as well throw Sacre and Kelly, right? But here’s my thing. Clarkson is a proven guard. Still raw, to be fair, but has been proven he can ball. For Dlo, I want to see him develop WITH JC. Know what I mean? I get what you’re saying, but I’d rather keep this core (JC,Randle,Dlo,Brown, and LNJ). These are the guys we should be building around with. So unless we pull something off like Cousins or any big name, Lakers should consider it. But for now, that’s something we shouldn’t touch or talk about throughout this season. Because I love me some JC and Russell all day every day.

          2. I would trade Randle before DR or JC. After all, Randle is undersized and has no jumper. I would have thought he would have worked on that during the year he was off.

          3. If you were to package all three of those you would be stuck with a guard rotation of Russel and Huertas. You would have to bring a decent gaurd back. Nick and Kobe can play spot minutes at the 2.

          4. I’m just wondering why we can’t just put Clarkson at the 2? He’s a combo guard after all. That’s what I’m saying. Dlo is more a ball handler, pass first point guard. I can see Harden written all over his face because he can be aggressive going into the paint. Boost that confidence, Dlo and JC can be big time for this team.

          5. I dont think that Russell is a pass first point guard he didn’t play that at Ohio State. He was SG that made plays not a PG that can shoot.

          6. Harden is a SG not a point. So if you see Dlo as being Harden he should be the SG.

          7. That’s what we like a real LAKERS fan that knows nothing of BB, AND IS WILLING TO SHOW IT.

          8. and get what in return? LeBron? lol You’d lose Clarkson, Lou, Bass?? We have to ADD, not SUBTRACT

      1. JC, Nance, Brown, Randle and Black will be the young generation Lakers can start rebuilding…………And probably bring back Upshaw after a stint with the Defenders……..Trading Bass, Kelly and Sacre is fine…………

        1. Who Aldridge, Dwight??? Proven losers….Monroe Tobias??? I didn’t want any of those bums anyway Deandre either, dude is toilet paper soft

          1. no please not jordan randle shooting 55% from free throw line jordan shooting 40% we would cry

          2. The free throw line thing sucks, but he sets the best picks in the NBA. Second best rebounder and probably best overall defender.

          3. it sounds nice but i would cry watching 15-20 free throws a game from the pair when they only hit 7-10

      2. I want to stick with Clarkson. Our core is strong and compliments each other fine on offense. All three of the core need to get a lot better on defense. Russell and Clarkson are both combo guards so there is doesn’t matter who handles the ball. Same with Randle, core is great in that regard. All playmakers.

      3. FO wants this backcourt for the next decade, th are u sayin man?

        in 5 years considering everything will fall into place

        Dlo-JC-Brown-Randle-Unibrow
        bench: Lou,SwagP, Nance jr,Upshaw

      4. Trade Clarkson? You guys are on some Jim Buss Logic. The Lakers need to trade Russell now!! Russell is NOT a franchise player. #2 picks are suppose to be franchise level players. Not just good players. If the Lakers put the team on his shoulders, they will suck for another 5 years. He can’t beat anyone off the dribble. HE IS TOO DAMN SLOW!!

        1. That’s why Russell plays the 1.

          I will never forgive the FO for being slow on the draw when it came to hiring Nash. JC and DR would both have benefited so much from his tutelage.

      5. I can agree with that. Fo, pipol hear this. .please trade jc to a contender team like spurs or gsw. .coz its clear that team’s plays are hindering jc’s development. So all his fans & a nation will cut ties with lakers drama. Some fans here are a bunch of no headers.

      6. Our hopes of getting competitive again fall on the FO on signing free agents/veterans minimum/drafting players. We can’t afford to lose the talent we’ve discovered for “proven” players. Those players would end up playing alone and the story is over. We need proven players to add to our young core. So no trade! It takes a lot more time to improve as a team, but many of the teams on the rise now have done so with young guys sticking together and ADDING PIECES (minnesota, utah come to mind) Even Golden State had Curry mostly by himself when he started playing and Thompson and Co. have developed. What did they do later? Sign Iguodala, the Aussie, etc. The Spurs are a mystery of a bunch of old guys with a little group of youngsters lol. You get my point 🙂

  • Based on Hibbert’s post game interview it sounds like the team is in full development mode now. Which I think is the right call. I am excited! Ceiling so high for so many of our guys.

        1. Yea, I mean, I believe the only reason the Lakers keep giving Kobe the minutes is because of that contract of his. If he decides to sit out the rest of the season and mentor these guys, that’s good in a way, but for 25 million? Really? I think that’s the only logical option they have in terms of putting that contract to use. Maybe sit him out a couple more games, I’d say 10 games throughout the season, and then mentor these guys. But it is what it is. Ludicrous, controversial, it’s what it is man.

          1. At least KB is around the team and talking to the guys helping them learn in the games. Much better ROI than we got with Nash. That guy took his money and ran (literaly playing soccer when he was supposedly hurt). IMHO Kobe does deserve a payday for what he has brought to the Lakers over the years. Guys that are not even close to the level of the player that Kobe was are going to be cashing in larger contracts than he has now over the next couple years. It was a monitary thank you to arguably the best Laker to ever play, and the one that kept them relevant over the past 20yrs.

          1. …except whenever the “White Elephant” is on the court. He warps this team just by being in town. Maybe they operated on the wrong shoulder.

    1. D’angelo, Nance, Randle. I love our future. I still think we have to trade Clarkson, man.

        1. Yep. To me he is more effective as a PG. I love the kid, but i think he can play more for other organization. And for us, we can grab a big fish if we trow Clarkson, Lou and Bass.

          1. Might as well throw Sacre and Kelly, right? But here’s my thing. Clarkson is a proven guard. Still raw, to be fair, but has been proven he can ball. For Dlo, I want to see him develop WITH JC. Know what I mean? I get what you’re saying, but I’d rather keep this core (JC,Randle,Dlo,Brown, and LNJ). These are the guys we should be building around with. So unless we pull something off like Cousins or any big name, Lakers should consider it. But for now, that’s something we shouldn’t touch or talk about throughout this season. Because I love me some JC and Russell all day every day.

          2. I would trade Randle before DR or JC. After all, Randle is undersized and has no jumper. I would have thought he would have worked on that during the year he was off.

          3. If you were to package all three of those you would be stuck with a guard rotation of Russel and Huertas. You would have to bring a decent gaurd back. Nick and Kobe can play spot minutes at the 2.

          4. I’m just wondering why we can’t just put Clarkson at the 2? He’s a combo guard after all. That’s what I’m saying. Dlo is more a ball handler, pass first point guard. I can see Harden written all over his face because he can be aggressive going into the paint. Boost that confidence, Dlo and JC can be big time for this team.

          5. I dont think that Russell is a pass first point guard he didn’t play that at Ohio State. He was SG that made plays not a PG that can shoot.

          6. Harden is a SG not a point. So if you see Dlo as being Harden he should be the SG.

          7. That’s what we like a real LAKERS fan that knows nothing of BB, AND IS WILLING TO SHOW IT.

          8. and get what in return? LeBron? lol You’d lose Clarkson, Lou, Bass?? We have to ADD, not SUBTRACT

      1. JC, Nance, Brown, Randle and Black will be the young generation Lakers can start rebuilding…………And probably bring back Upshaw after a stint with the Defenders……..Trading Bass, Kelly and Sacre is fine…………

        1. Who Aldridge, Dwight??? Proven losers….Monroe Tobias??? I didn’t want any of those bums anyway Deandre either, dude is toilet paper soft

          1. no please not jordan randle shooting 55% from free throw line jordan shooting 40% we would cry

          2. The free throw line thing sucks, but he sets the best picks in the NBA. Second best rebounder and probably best overall defender.

          3. it sounds nice but i would cry watching 15-20 free throws a game from the pair when they only hit 7-10

      2. I want to stick with Clarkson. Our core is strong and compliments each other fine on offense. All three of the core need to get a lot better on defense. Russell and Clarkson are both combo guards so it doesn’t matter who handles the ball. Same with Randle, core is great in that regard. All playmakers.

      3. FO wants this backcourt for the next decade, th are u sayin man?

        in 5 years considering everything will fall into place

        Dlo-JC-Brown-Randle-Unibrow
        bench: Lou,SwagP, Nance jr,Upshaw

      4. Trade Clarkson? You guys are on some Jim Buss Logic. The Lakers need to trade Russell now!! Russell is NOT a franchise player. #2 picks are suppose to be franchise level players. Not just good players. If the Lakers put the team on his shoulders, they will suck for another 5 years. He can’t beat anyone off the dribble. HE IS TOO DAMN SLOW!!

        1. That’s why Russell plays the 1.

          I will never forgive the FO for being slow on the draw when it came to hiring Nash. JC and DR would both have benefited so much from his tutelage.

      5. I can agree with that. Fo, pipol hear this. .please trade jc to a contender team like spurs or gsw. .coz its clear that team’s plays are hindering jc’s development. So all his fans & a nation will cut ties with lakers drama. Some fans here are a bunch of no headers.

      6. Our hopes of getting competitive again fall on the FO on signing free agents/veterans minimum/drafting players. We can’t afford to lose the talent we’ve discovered for “proven” players. Those players would end up playing alone and the story is over. We need proven players to add to our young core. So no trade! It takes a lot more time to improve as a team, but many of the teams on the rise now have done so with young guys sticking together and ADDING PIECES (minnesota, utah come to mind) Even Golden State had Curry mostly by himself when he started playing and Thompson and Co. have developed. What did they do later? Sign Iguodala, the Aussie, etc. The Spurs are a mystery of a bunch of old guys with a little group of youngsters lol. You get my point 🙂

  • We are the only lotto team with a top 5 pick taking this stance with our rookie. Interesting how ours is the one developing slowest.

    1. I wouldn’t say he is developing the slowest, I see a night and day comparison to him now compared to this summer. And even compared to Pre-Season. He is getting better for sure.

        1. No he’s not.
          He’s just not showing things in the box score.

          He’s far ahead of Mudiay. If we let Russell run amuck and be the offense he’d score similar. But instead, he’s stuck in a system and the #3 or #4 option.

          Byron helped Cp3 and Irving become the players they are today. If nothing else, I trust Byron to do the same with Russell, it’s the one thing he’s proven to be good at.

          Your head is so deep in a dark place I’m not sure there is hope for you.

          1. I guess that’s why all media outlets are talking about how he’s progressing the slowest?

          2. Our fan are dumb,they believe anything! Every since the Lakers got their own TV deal…They get negative press…especially from Espn…. And our fans believe anything they hear it read w/ o thinking, just like some dumb lambs.

          3. He’s not putting up box scores.
            Most “media outlets” don’t watch every game.

            Russell’s actually doing really good, and ahead of what you’d expect out of a rookie. He’s in position, makes good decisions, and plays like an invisible veteran more than a rookie.

            It’s just that in the system, he doesn’t have a green light to do whatever he wants and as such, we’re not seeing his contributions in the box score. Part of that is his own confidence as he doesn’t just “take over.”

          4. Thank you! Of the three youngsters he is the one who doesn’t get out of control and wild….sometimes both Randle who can’t shoot so sometime he just Bull his way to the basket and JC has been wild at times.But all fans think that just because Russell isn’t getting big stats then it means he isn’t playing well…..Mudiay Shoot 16 times for 16 points,he gets 6 assists and gave 10 turnovers and Media and fans will say,Mudiay is playing great..Russell would never be allowed the freedom to commit that many turnovers… Our fans would go stupid, look what happens if he commit 2….

          5. I wish Russell would just shut up and silently grow his game and let the facts speak for themselves. He hasn’t really done anything yet to crow about, in my eyes.

          6. Right. He is developing the slowest, but I also don’t see Byron as some sort of savant at coaching point guards, as some others do, especially in today’s game. Did JC learn more from Nash or Scott last year?

            Still, Russell has the hardest job on the court to learn. He would be helped immeasurably if Randle or Kobe or both could hit the corner 3 and loosen up the paint.

            I worry about Randle being undersized with no J. I think he is at the biggest risk of arrested development. I hope not, though.

            Speaking of news, DP, did you notice that Bazemore has taken over the 3 in Atlanta? 50% from 3 and plays D. It doesn’t prove anything, but I always liked the kid.

          7. Very good point about Nash! I’d venture to say JC learned more from both Kobe and Nash than he did Scott. Good observation about our shooters and floor spacing when it comes to Russell. I’d add the fact that Kobe, Randle and JC are given more responsibility in the play calling also, as they handle the ball a lot in the offense. Randle’s jumper is problematic. Really it’s about his unwillingness to shoot wide open looks. I think he will come around. Look at Blake Griffin? I just want Julius to work on being more controlled when attacking the paint.

            Ya boy Bazemore is making me eat crow. He’s stepping up big time.

          8. You are “the Librarian” of all things Lakers, in my eyes. I always wanted to know what really happened with Shannon Brown and Pau Gasol’s girl—was that a thing that happened? It seemed like one day he was blossoming and the next he was down the road.

          9. BS needs to go.. and QUICK to have these kids develop. He is not grooming them to gain the heart, the grit, confidence and maturity they need to fight for a position in the league. He’s worse than Brown & D’Antoni. Brown does have the defensive mindset but lack the offense… The total opposite of D’Antoni where the team scores but can not stop.. BS does preached about defense and scoring, in games reality he does NEITHER!

          10. Doubt that dlo will learn toughness in scott’s method. The way his responses to interviews sound like hes retracting rather than coordinating. And it seem like he stirs the media in his responses. Its not a good sign for development. Team not showing the preached defense by bs in the court, is further very telling.

          11. Don’t worry now that Kobe is already starting to sit out…. The calls for Scott’s job will get louder…He is Coaching to pacify Kobe.

          12. True about Mudiay he had a game of 11 turnovers and against the Lakers he Had 9 turnovers but he is perceived different?Chris Paul had a. Center who could roll to the basket and catch lobs for easy baskets,Hibbert don’t roll and catch lobs.. Tyson Chandler was the center for Paul… Byron is doing a poor job,he should simplify the offense and run more.

          13. Are you really suggesting BS is the reason why CP3 is CP3 and why Kyrie is Kyrie? Never mind the fact they couldve and would’ve excelled under any other coach and or system? What?

      1. agreed. he is getting the game slowly but alot faster then i was expecting. i can at least see flashes now

    2. I agree with you but anybody that objectively looked at Russell coming into the year knew he would have a hard time adjusting to physicality of the NBA. Also PG is a bigger learning curve than being a big man. Mudiay looks good but hes having his ups and downs to way too many turnovers and his shot looks horrid.

      1. Mudiay is being given the leash he needs to develop faster. That’s my point. I think Russell would progress faster if he were given full access to the keys like most lotto teams do.

        1. are u just discounting clarksons devolpment?

          how about koes back in the day?

          or bynum?

          all of these players were bench players the majority of their first nba seasons

          1. They weren’t top 5 picks. Kobe was on a team that had an all-star SG in front of him. Coupled with a better team as we were not a lotto team. Remember Fisher was our pick at 24.

            JC was a complete surprise and would not have gotten any burn if not for injury. Don’t act like Scot had a plan to develop him.

          2. Magic Started fro the jump. Scott started from the jump. Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, West, Baylor.

            Don’t talk history if you don’t know it!

          3. Again, top 5 pick start on lotto team simply because they don’t normally have better options in from of him. We are that.

          4. bennett did not start with he cavs. 1st overall pick

            tabeet did not start with the grizz 2nd overall pick

            williams did not start with the wolfs 2nd overall pick

          5. Now go down the list of top 5 picks and tell me how many didn’t start vs how many did. Again, the majority do, I never said all do.

          6. The circumstances Russell’s in, there’s no reason for him not to start and get most of the burn at PG. Bennett was behind Loul Deng. Williams was behind Kevin Love.

          7. he wants jc at the two because russ should be our future 1. however russ should have started the season on the bench and worked his way to starting.

            russ off the bench could still get 25+ mins pergame

          8. Because he thinks losses are good for grooming a young PG. Especially those in the pressure cooker of LA.

            Dwight couldn’t handle LA and left. Russell seems like he really can handle it, but we have to be careful not to create an egotistical monster or let expectations crush him and derail his potential.

          9. No because I like seeing young players being given a real chance. Especially on a team that has no real better option in front of him. Nick Van Exel started from the jump.

          10. and nick was ready to start russ is/was not.

            we have players that would be better to start over russ. clark and kobe are both better at the pg then russ is so far

          11. But those players won’t get to the playoffs so you may as well start the kid..quit slowing the rebuild, thinking the retreads are going to get you somewhere.

          12. It’s not like the Lakers were going to win if The lineup was different,,, Scott would allow Kobe to dictate. .So any rookie that is going to be box office wasn’t going to shine early… Only one big dog can run the yard ..Kobe…He would have had okafor setting screens so he could shoot.

          13. idk if it will help DLo and the team but maybe he can go to the bench but will play starters minutes

          14. Russell was picked to Start….Scott is out of touch…Look at his offense.If he went to Phily or Denver…he would have been given the keys…And The Knicks were hoping he fall to them .

          15. Scott said that the team is very careful at maturing him and controlling his own disappointment. They didn’t want to deliberately “set him up to fail” (scott’s words).

            He also said, that he expected in a week or so, that Russell would have corrected all the problems limiting right now, and he’d be given a full compliment of starting and closing minutes.

            The kid’s going to be a starter by December, and yet some want him to start from day 1. wow.

            Quoting Dana, “You have the patience of a coked up mosquito.”

          16. Mudiay was allowed to have 11 turnovers! Scott would flip his wig. These kids don’t need to be coddled!! Russell would handle the growing pains.

          17. What’s worse…. The fact of knowing you have 11 turnovers, or the Lakers media and fanbase hounding you on 11 turnovers?

          18. You do realize Magic averaged close to 6 his rookie year. Mudiay is not averaging 11. You a trip?

          19. ment get not average.

            kid is averaging 4.4 turnovers pergame good for 3rd most in the league. he also has a 5 worst assist/turnover ratio.

            thats not good for a young player how is being taught this is ok

          20. Is he not already in the convo for ROY? The progress I see is just fine on Mudiay. Jason Kidd has already said Mudiay will be better than him. That’s very high praise from someone who knows.

          21. muliday could be better then him or he could be a pg that turns the ball over at an horrid clip and never gets a jumper

          22. Kidd never had a consistent jumper. Mudiay is getting better about his turnovers game to game. His last four games he’s gotten better. Were already seeing Russell start to increase in turnovers. More PT earlier could have seen him get through those growing pains all the same. No guarantees but it’s possible and he would be getting valuable experience in games learning how to get the ball to his mates under the pressure of different defensive pressures.

          23. Yeah he had 16 points on 15 shots and 9 turnovers,With that kind of freedom, Russell can definitely do that..Let them switch teams and see…The first game.. Scott had Russell go stand in the corner and watch Kobe play offense…. Russell touch the ball just 12 times…touched Not Shot….

          24. Are you grooming an All-Star with bad habits, or a superstar with 12 years of greatness.

            Scott was very specific that he said the team was very careful in making him a well rounded player, and to not let him develop bad habits.

          25. Do some homework… Check Scott’s boy Magic and his career turnover average..

          26. Do some homework. Go read the Espn article where Scott talks about his strategy to groom Russell.

            The team and Scott have a strategy, Scott knows how to groom guards, and the team has MILLIONS of dollars to get paid professionals to research how to groom a future superstar.

            or maybe they should just call Daryl.

          27. That strategy was not even used with Scott his rookie season. They put Scott right into the fire. It’s not about me so miss me with that childish diss! Most lotto teams do exactly as I’m stating.

          28. Russell has not? He has not been given the chance yet. Magic and the rest of Showtime complained big time about Scott’s rookie errors! You can easily go find articles on how they dogged Scott but Riley didn’t let it stop him from getting PT.

          29. No matter how you cut it, there’s no reason for him to have been benched for those entire 4th quarters. Especially when he had been producing better in the third quarter than any other PG. 63-60 when Scott sat him at 4:52 in the third of the Miami game. Scott’s excuse for not bringing him back the rest of the game was the score got out of hand. Given The score seemed to be in hand when Russ was on the court, Scott should have put him back in!

          30. so your saying in a game were your down by 10+ ppg heading into the 4th and you outscore the other team in the 4th that the players playing in the 4th quarter cost the team the game????????????????

          31. What?!?

            Anytime you got an entire 4th quarter of play left, you have a chance to win the game still. A turnover from the second or third quarter is not the reason you lost. Get outta here with that foolishness!

          32. you can lose a game at anytime.

            if you lose the first quarter by 15 points and win every other quarter by 4 points you will lose the game by 3 points now tell me which quarter lost the game

            the 1st that u lost by 15 points or the 4th that you won by 4?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

          33. A team can fall too far behind but you singled out Russell as the sole culprit. Again, get out of here with that foolishness!!!

          34. russell has had the worst per +/- and every other stat you can think of in the first quarter of our games.

            aka russel has been the worst starter on the team in the 1st which is when we have lost 7 of our 8 games

          35. again you want to discount the stats which prove russel has been hurting the team in the first quarter. the lakers are one of the worst 1st quarter teams in the game and all the stats point to russell as the reason for it

          36. and? he made mistakes but he was still producing russ has not been untill the last few games

          37. Russ would likely produce if given the consistent chance. His averages are not that bad for his MPG.

          38. hes been given the chances he keeps making major mistakes that cost us games.

            from missing open shots, holding the ball for 10 sec before passing allowing his man open shots(napier).

            russ should have come off our bench for the first 15-20 games

          39. ?!? how many mistakes has he made that cost us games (plural) when he’s sat the entire 4th of three of our 8 games? Give me more than last night!

          40. your statement just validate what daryl peek is pointing out. russell is DEVELOPING the SLOWEST among his peers.

          41. James Worthy came off the bench behind Wilkes. .Each situation is different….Kobe off the Bench…Magic came in with power, he fired a coach…. Each situation is different.

          42. They are different, especially given Worthy joined a team with championship starters in front of him. Worthy was competing with Wilkes and Rambis as a tweener. Russell is more like Van Exel and Jones in joining a rebuilding lotto team. Those top picks come in and start.

          43. You are preaching MAN, he didn’t develop Clarkson.Injuries forced him to play him.

          1. Randle was not a top 5 pick and Boozer is a proven NBA vet who still had something in the tank. We have no PG better in front of Russ really. Marcelo is a rookie also. Scott said he wanted JC at the two. Lou is not a PG. There’s no reason not to give Russ the reps.

          2. since when did a top 5 pick mean you get a ton of pt or get to start???????

            btw if russ keeps playing like he did last night shur start him but he should be coming off the bench with clark at the pg and kobe at the sg atm

          3. Kobe cant guard 2’s and he is going to be in and out of the lineup…… Start and play the kids
            ..you aren’t going to the playoffs… Why wait?

          4. They are pacing his development because internally, they believe that it’s best.

            Didn’t you read the scott interview about it in ESPN 2 days ago?

            So, it’s a decision made by Scott and the Front Office to pursue the strategy of growth and maturation you are witnessing.

            Since you aren’t a PhD in sports management, haven’t groomed or drafted a top draft pick, or know anything more than you own spoiled egotism, please stop.

          5. Dude beat it with your BULL. You make no sense every time you come on this site. Scram!

          6. His initial comments made sense…They are pacing his development and Scott did say as much in an interview.

          7. There’s no reason to. Who’s better at PG on roster? We are a lotto team. Most lotto teams give their top 5 pick the reps no questions asked.

          8. Because you have no better option doesn’t mean you play him 40 minutes a night. He is starting him and he is playing him 25 minutes or more most nights. I would say that is significant. Plus, Russell isn’t the only guy that Byron needs to develop.

          9. Oh please…don’t go back down the sitting out 4th quarters complaint. The guy is a rookie that has now played a total of 8 games.

            Plus, why is he the only one Byron Scott is being judged on as it relates to development? No is complaining with how Byron is handling Clarkson or Randle. It’s 8 games!

          10. I did!! The only reason JC got burn was injury! FOH with that mess! Ronnie Price had to go down for JC to get burn! That coupled with Scott tripping on Lin.

          11. Russell is the number 2 pick. He should play as many minutes as he wants to. Magic got Westhead fired. Russell will get Scott fired!

          12. That’s right. Russell really should be coaching himself. Clearly he is in touch with himself in a way that Scott just can’t understand! He is built for this.

          13. I hate to get into this but if he’s warming the pine the entire 4th quarter.. there’s no way you can call that development. He is destroying the kids confidence by benching him. Russell can play 5 min every quarter and that will be sufficient, but every time he is benched at the fourth quarter, winning or loosing (ahead on score or behind) he is getting a message that BS does not have any confidence on him. the only way he will learn how to swim is if he is out there in the water! For a team that keeps on losing, it’s just time to have Russell develop since BS does not like to win.

            Brown and D’Antoni have an opposite schematics into the system, where Brown does defense (but can not score) while D’Antoni is offense (can score but no stops), BS preaches them both but in reality has done neither. He does not have any regular line up, no set plays, no time management, players selections during subs, not keeping players that gels together, burning players during practice that players are gassed during games, needs to coral Kobe (biggest Kobe Fan,BTW) and he needs to go NOW! Bring in Tibbs or Mark Jackson.

          14. lakers right now ae trying to develop players while competing for a playoff spot…go to sixers you son of a tank

          15. Scott is on a seat that is starting to get hot….The mediaand fan are starting to call for him to play Russell….. By late December they had better improve…

    3. He’s developing much faster than you think.
      He’s already better, fundamentally than Mudiay.

      And, it’s about the 12 year career, not the first 7 games.

          1. I saw the game and the replay. It was a fairly even matchup that Mudiay won, why? Their coach let Emmanuel play the full game.

            Aren’t you the guy who was complaining about Russell? Saying he only had 4 points against the Knicks?

            You got problems son

          2. Maybe you did watch it…
            But go watch the breakdown and analysis. They paint a very different picture beyond the “eye test.”

            Maybe you missed Mudiays 10 turnovers? or the fact that he was out of position, was a bit out of control, and created a liability for the rest of the offense.

            Mudiay plays like a combo guard. He’s not better than JC as of now. And he’s clearly not a ball handler outside of the fact that he’s a combo guard. And while I think Mudiay will be a good player, I’m not sure he’s anything more than Bledsoe or R.Jackson when he settles.

            He appears better because he played in China before coming here, so he’s a much more confident player, and to some extent, a half a season ahead of Russell.

            Just like Randle, Mitch got the pick right.

          3. Mudiay had 6 turnovers that game! You never get the numbers right? Just stop!!

          4. Mudiay had a sweet stat line last night 15pts, 3reb, 11asst, 1TO but shot the ball poorly. I think there’s a quote where his coach claims he’s turned a corner.

        1. Clearly??? Really? If Russell had the freedom to play,it wouldn’t be close…. He don’t have the green light like Mudiay…. 10 turnovers, 11 turnovers. Hello!!!? If Russell commit just 2 turnovers fans and Media freak out and Scott Sit him.The very first game they played with Russell’s head…. He had to go stand in the corner out of Kobe’s way and watch Kobe jack up shots.. .He touch the ball 12 times the entire game…Not 12 Shots,12 times touching the ball…. Mudiay has the keys.Russell don’t.

          1. You seem confused as to what I’ve been saying? My point is Russell is being held back with the way Scott is grooming him compare to Mudiay.

    4. because he is a project….Porz is a project but he shocked the world(lol) and became an nba-ready in several months

    5. I don’t know about Russell’s development. However, I do know he is the slowest 19 year old PG I have ever seen.

    6. Look who is Coaching, why is Mudiay allowed to play and turn the ball over 10 times in one game? And if Russell make 1 turn over our fans have a fit? And Scott acts like they will win a championship this year and bench the kid?

  • We are the only lotto team with a top 5 pick taking this stance with our rookie. Interesting how ours is the one developing slowest.

    1. I wouldn’t say he is developing the slowest, I see a night and day comparison to him now compared to this summer. And even compared to Pre-Season. He is getting better for sure.

        1. No he’s not.
          He’s just not showing things in the box score.

          He’s far ahead of Mudiay. If we let Russell run amuck and be the offense he’d score similar. But instead, he’s stuck in a system and the #3 or #4 option.

          Byron helped Cp3 and Irving become the players they are today. If nothing else, I trust Byron to do the same with Russell, it’s the one thing he’s proven to be good at.

          Your head is so deep in a dark place I’m not sure there is hope for you.

          1. I guess that’s why all media outlets are talking about how he’s progressing the slowest?

          2. Our fan are dumb,they believe anything! Every since the Lakers got their own TV deal…They get negative press…especially from Espn…. And our fans believe anything they hear or read w/ o thinking, just like some dumb lambs.

          3. He’s not putting up box scores.
            Most “media outlets” don’t watch every game.

            Russell’s actually doing really good, and ahead of what you’d expect out of a rookie. He’s in position, makes good decisions, and plays like an invisible veteran more than a rookie.

            It’s just that in the system, he doesn’t have a green light to do whatever he wants and as such, we’re not seeing his contributions in the box score. Part of that is his own confidence as he doesn’t just “take over.”

          4. Thank you! Of the three youngsters he is the one who doesn’t get out of control and wild….sometimes both Randle who can’t shoot so sometime he just Bull his way to the basket and JC has been wild at times.But all fans think that just because Russell isn’t getting big stats then it means he isn’t playing well…..Mudiay Shoot 16 times for 16 points,he gets 6 assists and have 10 turnovers and Media and fans will say,Mudiay is playing great..Russell would never be allowed the freedom to commit that many turnovers… Our fans would go stupid, look what happens if he commit 2….

          5. I wish Russell would just shut up and silently grow his game and let the facts speak for themselves. He hasn’t really done anything yet to crow about, in my eyes.

          6. Right. He is developing the slowest, but I also don’t see Byron as some sort of savant at coaching point guards, as some others do, especially in today’s game. Did JC learn more from Nash or Scott last year?

            Still, Russell has the hardest job on the court to learn. He would be helped immeasurably if Randle or Kobe or both could hit the corner 3 and loosen up the paint.

            I worry about Randle being undersized with no J. I think he is at the biggest risk of arrested development. I hope not, though.

            Speaking of news, DP, did you notice that Bazemore has taken over the 3 in Atlanta? 50% from 3 and plays D. It doesn’t prove anything, but I always liked the kid.

          7. Very good point about Nash! I’d venture to say JC learned more from both Kobe and Nash than he did Scott. Good observation about our shooters and floor spacing when it comes to Russell. I’d add the fact that Kobe, Randle and JC are given more responsibility in the play calling also, as they handle the ball a lot in the offense. Randle’s jumper is problematic. Really it’s about his unwillingness to shoot wide open looks. I think he will come around. Look at Blake Griffin? I just want Julius to work on being more controlled when attacking the paint.

            Ya boy Bazemore is making me eat crow. He’s stepping up big time.

          8. You are “the Librarian” of all things Lakers, in my eyes. I always wanted to know what really happened with Shannon Brown and Pau Gasol’s girl—was that a thing that happened? It seemed like one day he was blossoming and the next he was down the road.

          9. BS needs to go.. and QUICK to have these kids develop. He is not grooming them to gain the heart, the grit, confidence and maturity they need to fight for a position in the league. He’s worse than Brown & D’Antoni. Brown does have the defensive mindset but lack the offense… The total opposite of D’Antoni where the team scores but can not stop.. BS does preached about defense and scoring, in games reality he does NEITHER!

          10. Doubt that dlo will learn toughness in scott’s method. The way his responses to interviews sound like hes retracting rather than coordinating. And it seem like he stirs the media in his responses. Its not a good sign for development. Team not showing the preached defense by bs in the court, is further very telling.

          11. Don’t worry now that Kobe is already starting to sit out…. The calls for Scott’s job will get louder…He is Coaching to pacify Kobe.

          12. True about Mudiay he had a game of 11 turnovers and against the Lakers he Had 9 turnovers but he is perceived different?Chris Paul had a. Center who could roll to the basket and catch lobs for easy baskets,Hibbert don’t roll and catch lobs.. Tyson Chandler was the center for Paul… Byron is doing a poor job,he should simplify the offense and run more.

          13. Are you really suggesting BS is the reason why CP3 is CP3 and why Kyrie is Kyrie? Never mind the fact they couldve and would’ve excelled under any other coach and or system? What?

      1. agreed. he is getting the game slowly but alot faster then i was expecting. i can at least see flashes now

    2. I agree with you but anybody that objectively looked at Russell coming into the year knew he would have a hard time adjusting to physicality of the NBA. Also PG is a bigger learning curve than being a big man. Mudiay looks good but hes having his ups and downs to way too many turnovers and his shot looks horrid.

      1. Mudiay is being given the leash he needs to develop faster. That’s my point. I think Russell would progress faster if he were given full access to the keys like most lotto teams do.

        1. are u just discounting clarksons devolpment?

          how about koes back in the day?

          or bynum?

          all of these players were bench players the majority of their first nba seasons

          1. They weren’t top 5 picks. Kobe was on a team that had an all-star SG in front of him. Coupled with a better team as we were not a lotto team. Remember Fisher was our pick at 24.

            JC was a complete surprise and would not have gotten any burn if not for injury. Don’t act like Scot had a plan to develop him.

          2. Magic Started fro the jump. Scott started from the jump. Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, West, Baylor.

            Don’t talk history if you don’t know it!

          3. Again, top 5 pick start on lotto team simply because they don’t normally have better options in from of him. We are that.

          4. bennett did not start with he cavs. 1st overall pick

            tabeet did not start with the grizz 2nd overall pick

            williams did not start with the wolfs 2nd overall pick

          5. Now go down the list of top 5 picks and tell me how many didn’t start vs how many did. Again, the majority do, I never said all do.

          6. The circumstances Russell’s in, there’s no reason for him not to start and get most of the burn at PG. Bennett was behind Loul Deng. Williams was behind Kevin Love.

          7. he wants jc at the two because russ should be our future 1. however russ should have started the season on the bench and worked his way to starting.

            russ off the bench could still get 25+ mins pergame

          8. Dwight couldn’t handle the pressure cooker of LA and left. Russell seems like he really can handle it, but we have to be careful not to create an egotistical monster or let expectations crush him and derail his potential.

          9. No because I like seeing young players being given a real chance. Especially on a team that has no real better option in front of him. Nick Van Exel started from the jump.

          10. and nick was ready to start russ is/was not.

            we have players that would be better to start over russ. clark and kobe are both better at the pg then russ is so far

          11. But those players won’t get to the playoffs so you may as well start the kid..quit slowing the rebuild, thinking the retreads are going to get you somewhere.

          12. It’s not like the Lakers were going to win if The lineup was different,,, Scott would allow Kobe to dictate. .So any rookie that is going to be box office wasn’t going to shine early… Only one big dog can run the yard ..Kobe…He would have had okafor setting screens so he could shoot.

          13. idk if it will help DLo and the team but maybe he can go to the bench but will play starters minutes

          14. Russell was picked to Start….Scott is out of touch…Look at his offense.If he went to Phily or Denver…he would have been given the keys…And The Knicks were hoping he fall to them .

          15. Scott said that the team is very careful at maturing him and controlling his own disappointment. They didn’t want to deliberately “set him up to fail” (scott’s words).

            He also said, that he expected in a week or so, that Russell would have corrected all the problems limiting right now, and he’d be given a full compliment of starting and closing minutes.

            The kid’s going to be a starter by December, and yet some want him to start from day 1. wow.

            Quoting Dana, “You have the patience of a coked up mosquito.”

          16. Mudiay was allowed to have 11 turnovers! Scott would flip his wig. These kids don’t need to be coddled!! Russell would handle the growing pains.

          17. What’s worse…. The fact of knowing you have 11 turnovers, or the Lakers media and fanbase hounding you on 11 turnovers?

          18. You do realize Magic averaged close to 6 his rookie year. Mudiay is not averaging 11. You a trip?

          19. ment get not average.

            kid is averaging 4.4 turnovers pergame good for 3rd most in the league. he also has a 5 worst assist/turnover ratio.

            thats not good for a young player how is being taught this is ok

          20. Is he not already in the convo for ROY? The progress I see is just fine on Mudiay. Jason Kidd has already said Mudiay will be better than him. That’s very high praise from someone who knows.

          21. muliday could be better then him or he could be a pg that turns the ball over at an horrid clip and never gets a jumper

          22. Kidd never had a consistent jumper. Mudiay is getting better about his turnovers game to game. His last four games he’s gotten better. Were already seeing Russell start to increase in turnovers. More PT earlier could have seen him get through those growing pains all the same. No guarantees but it’s possible and he would be getting valuable experience in games learning how to get the ball to his mates under the pressure of different defensive pressures.

          23. Yeah he had 16 points on 15 shots and 9 turnovers,With that kind of freedom, Russell can definitely do that..Let them switch teams and see…The first game.. Scott had Russell go stand in the corner and watch Kobe play offense…. Russell touch the ball just 12 times…touched Not Shot….

          24. Are you grooming an All-Star with bad habits, or a superstar with 12 years of greatness.

            Scott was very specific that he said the team was very careful in making him a well rounded player, and to not let him develop bad habits.

          25. Do some homework… Check Scott’s boy Magic and his career turnover average..

          26. Do some homework. Go read the Espn article where Scott talks about his strategy to groom Russell.

            The team and Scott have a strategy, Scott knows how to groom guards, and the team has MILLIONS of dollars to get paid professionals to research how to groom a future superstar.

            or maybe they should just call Daryl.

          27. That strategy was not even used with Scott his rookie season. They put Scott right into the fire. It’s not about me so miss me with that childish diss! Most lotto teams do exactly as I’m stating.

          28. Russell has not? He has not been given the chance yet. Magic and the rest of Showtime complained big time about Scott’s rookie errors! You can easily go find articles on how they dogged Scott but Riley didn’t let it stop him from getting PT.

          29. No matter how you cut it, there’s no reason for him to have been benched for those entire 4th quarters. Especially when he had been producing better in the third quarter than any other PG. 63-60 when Scott sat him at 4:52 in the third of the Miami game. Scott’s excuse for not bringing him back the rest of the game was the score got out of hand. Given The score seemed to be in hand when Russ was on the court, Scott should have put him back in!

          30. so your saying in a game were your down by 10+ ppg heading into the 4th and you outscore the other team in the 4th that the players playing in the 4th quarter cost the team the game????????????????

          31. What?!?

            Anytime you got an entire 4th quarter of play left, you have a chance to win the game still. A turnover from the second or third quarter is not the reason you lost. Get outta here with that foolishness!

          32. you can lose a game at anytime.

            if you lose the first quarter by 15 points and win every other quarter by 4 points you will lose the game by 3 points now tell me which quarter lost the game

            the 1st that u lost by 15 points or the 4th that you won by 4?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

          33. A team can fall too far behind but you singled out Russell as the sole culprit. Again, get out of here with that foolishness!!!

          34. russell has had the worst per +/- and every other stat you can think of in the first quarter of our games.

            aka russel has been the worst starter on the team in the 1st which is when we have lost 7 of our 8 games

          35. again you want to discount the stats which prove russel has been hurting the team in the first quarter. the lakers are one of the worst 1st quarter teams in the game and all the stats point to russell as the reason for it

          36. and? he made mistakes but he was still producing russ has not been untill the last few games

          37. Russ would likely produce if given the consistent chance. His averages are not that bad for his MPG.

          38. hes been given the chances he keeps making major mistakes that cost us games.

            from missing open shots, holding the ball for 10 sec before passing allowing his man open shots(napier).

            russ should have come off our bench for the first 15-20 games

          39. ?!? how many mistakes has he made that cost us games (plural) when he’s sat the entire 4th of three of our 8 games? Give me more than last night!

          40. your statement just validate what daryl peek is pointing out. russell is DEVELOPING the SLOWEST among his peers.

          41. James Worthy came off the bench behind Wilkes. .Each situation is different….Kobe off the Bench…Magic came in with power, he fired a coach…. Each situation is different.

          42. They are different, especially given Worthy joined a team with championship starters in front of him. Worthy was competing with Wilkes and Rambis as a tweener. Russell is more like Van Exel and Jones in joining a rebuilding lotto team. Those top picks come in and start.

          43. You are preaching MAN, he didn’t develop Clarkson.Injuries forced him to play him.

          1. Randle was not a top 5 pick and Boozer is a proven NBA vet who still had something in the tank. We have no PG better in front of Russ really. Marcelo is a rookie also. Scott said he wanted JC at the two. Lou is not a PG. There’s no reason not to give Russ the reps.

          2. since when did a top 5 pick mean you get a ton of pt or get to start???????

            btw if russ keeps playing like he did last night shur start him but he should be coming off the bench with clark at the pg and kobe at the sg atm

          3. Kobe cant guard 2’s and he is going to be in and out of the lineup…… Start and play the kids
            ..you aren’t going to the playoffs… Why wait?

          4. They are pacing his development because internally, they believe that it’s best.

            Didn’t you read the scott interview about it in ESPN 2 days ago?

            So, it’s a decision made by Scott and the Front Office to pursue the strategy of growth and maturation you are witnessing.

            Since you aren’t a PhD in sports management, haven’t groomed or drafted a top draft pick, or know anything more than you own spoiled egotism, please stop.

          5. Dude beat it with your BULL. You make no sense every time you come on this site. Scram!

          6. His initial comments made sense…They are pacing his development and Scott did say as much in an interview.

          7. There’s no reason to. Who’s better at PG on roster? We are a lotto team. Most lotto teams give their top 5 pick the reps no questions asked.

          8. Because you have no better option doesn’t mean you play him 40 minutes a night. He is starting him and he is playing him 25 minutes or more most nights. I would say that is significant. Plus, Russell isn’t the only guy that Byron needs to develop.

          9. Oh please…don’t go back down the sitting out 4th quarters complaint. The guy is a rookie that has now played a total of 8 games.

            Plus, why is he the only one Byron Scott is being judged on as it relates to development? No is complaining with how Byron is handling Clarkson or Randle. It’s 8 games!

          10. I did!! The only reason JC got burn was injury! FOH with that mess! Ronnie Price had to go down for JC to get burn! That coupled with Scott tripping on Lin.

          11. Russell is the number 2 pick. He should play as many minutes as he wants to. Magic got Westhead fired. Russell will get Scott fired!

          12. That’s right. Russell really should be coaching himself. Clearly he is in touch with himself in a way that Scott just can’t understand! He is built for this.

          13. I hate to get into this but if he’s warming the pine the entire 4th quarter.. there’s no way you can call that development. He is destroying the kids confidence by benching him. Russell can play 5 min every quarter and that will be sufficient, but every time he is benched at the fourth quarter, winning or loosing (ahead on score or behind) he is getting a message that BS does not have any confidence on him. the only way he will learn how to swim is if he is out there in the water! For a team that keeps on losing, it’s just time to have Russell develop since BS does not like to win.

            Brown and D’Antoni have an opposite schematics into the system, where Brown does defense (but can not score) while D’Antoni is offense (can score but no stops), BS preaches them both but in reality has done neither. He does not have any regular line up, no set plays, no time management, players selections during subs, not keeping players that gels together, burning players during practice that players are gassed during games, needs to coral Kobe (biggest Kobe Fan,BTW) and he needs to go NOW! Bring in Tibbs or Mark Jackson.

          14. lakers right now ae trying to develop players while competing for a playoff spot…go to sixers you son of a tank

          15. Scott is on a seat that is starting to get hot….The media and fan are starting to call for him to play Russell….. By late December they had better improve…

    3. He’s developing much faster than you think.
      He’s already better, fundamentally than Mudiay.

      And, it’s about the 12 year career, not the first 7 games.

          1. I saw the game and the replay. It was a fairly even matchup that Mudiay won, why? Their coach let Emmanuel play the full game.

            Aren’t you the guy who was complaining about Russell? Saying he only had 4 points against the Knicks?

            You got problems son

          2. Maybe you did watch it…
            But go watch the breakdown and analysis. They paint a very different picture beyond the “eye test.”

            Maybe you missed Mudiays 10 turnovers? or the fact that he was out of position, was a bit out of control, and created a liability for the rest of the offense.

            Mudiay plays like a combo guard. He’s not better than JC as of now. And he’s clearly not a ball handler outside of the fact that he’s a combo guard. And while I think Mudiay will be a good player, I’m not sure he’s anything more than Bledsoe or R.Jackson when he settles.

            He appears better because he played in China before coming here, so he’s a much more confident player, and to some extent, a half a season ahead of Russell.

            Just like Randle, Mitch got the pick right.

          3. Mudiay had 6 turnovers that game! You never get the numbers right? Just stop!!

          4. Mudiay had a sweet stat line last night 15pts, 3reb, 11asst, 1TO but shot the ball poorly. I think there’s a quote where his coach claims he’s turned a corner.

        1. Clearly??? Really? If Russell had the freedom to play,it wouldn’t be close…. He don’t have the green light like Mudiay…. 10 turnovers, 11 turnovers. Hello!!!? If Russell commit just 2 turnovers fans and Media freak out and Scott Sit him.The very first game they played with Russell’s head…. He had to go stand in the corner out of Kobe’s way and watch Kobe jack up shots.. .He touch the ball 12 times the entire game…Not 12 Shots,12 times touching the ball…. Mudiay has the keys.Russell don’t.

          1. You seem confused as to what I’ve been saying? My point is Russell is being held back with the way Scott is grooming him compare to Mudiay.

    4. because he is a project….Porz is a project but he shocked the world(lol) and became an nba-ready in several months

    5. I don’t know about Russell’s development. However, I do know he is the slowest 19 year old PG I have ever seen.

    6. Look who is Coaching, why is Mudiay allowed to play and turn the ball over 10 times in one game? And if Russell make 1 turn over our fans have a fit? And Scott acts like they will win a championship this year and bench the kid?

          1. That is basically a 1st round pick. I don’t think he has played in the NBA yet has he?

          2. When drafting i can agree with you but you don’t trade away players for redundant players that wont crack the lineup. We already have 2 rookie PF that need time to develop.

      1. in variours sources. Put in google. Nick Young trade. Will appear a lot of “Memphis want Nick Young”

        1. So not exploding : ). But some random rumors from a fan made sports blog. But it does make some sense.

        2. i like that trade nick young and kelly with sacre to memphis exchange for matt barnes and courney lee

        3. When you google it…
          It comes back with 4-5 known clickbait sites and bleacher report.

          So, there is no rumor, just hacks and rumor mills filling pages.

    1. On NBA trade machine. Young, Kelly for Jeff Green works. Green has been disappointing in Memphis though. Not sure I would like that deal.

        1. He doesn’t fit the Grizzles system. Maybe more high pace like he did with the Celtics when Rondo was their.

          1. We are something like 7th highest pace in the NBA currently, or at least the last time I checked. Definitely way higher pace than Memphis.

      1. what can we get from mem trade for young kelly and sacre?

        Lee,Allen, Green, 1st round pick and their HC….if we can get 2 of those options….

    2. They don’t have a true backup C or a SF that moves the needle for us so i say pass also they just picked up chalmers so i think they may see how that plays out before they make anymore changes.

    3. nah, keep swagP stock, let it be higher….or package him with some players to get a better one(DMC,KD,etc)

          1. That is basically a 1st round pick. I don’t think he has played in the NBA yet has he?

          2. When drafting i can agree with you but you don’t trade away players for redundant players that wont crack the lineup. We already have 2 rookie PF that need time to develop.

      1. in variours sources. Put in google. Nick Young trade. Will appear a lot of “Memphis want Nick Young”

        1. So not exploding : ). But some random rumors from a fan made sports blog. But it does make some sense.

        2. i like that trade nick young and kelly with sacre to memphis exchange for matt barnes and courney lee

        3. When you google it…
          It comes back with 4-5 known clickbait sites and bleacher report.

          So, there is no rumor, just hacks and rumor mills filling pages.

    1. On NBA trade machine. Young, Kelly for Jeff Green works. Green has been disappointing in Memphis though. Not sure I would like that deal.

        1. He doesn’t fit the Grizzles system. Maybe more high pace like he did with the Celtics when Rondo was their.

          1. We are something like 7th highest pace in the NBA currently, or at least the last time I checked. Definitely way higher pace than Memphis.

      1. what can we get from mem trade for young kelly and sacre?

        Lee,Allen, Green, 1st round pick and their HC….if we can get 2 of those options….

    2. They don’t have a true backup C or a SF that moves the needle for us so i say pass also they just picked up chalmers so i think they may see how that plays out before they make anymore changes.

    3. nah, keep swagP stock, let it be higher….or package him with some players to get a better one(DMC,KD,etc)

  • Yo this is the thing I don’t understand. If we are “rebuilding” why in the would we try to rebuild now when have no 1st rounder in the next couple years. I mean the smartest thing to do would be get players who can compete now not later on the future.

    1. Because we have Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Brown, Nance, Black, Kelly, Sacre on our roster. I see 5 of them as being part of a core rebuild.

        1. Cousins is having enough trouble winning with talent as it is. You really want to put him on a team with an aging Kobe and no future?

          1. Kobe was gonna leave next season anyway. By the way Cousins has just had a sprained Achilles. He is just getting back you know. One more thing who would pass up on a guy like Cousins?

          2. He does also seem to get injured a lot as well. If I was given Cousins I take him. I do not trade our entire future for him though.

          1. His agent spread the rumors…. Just like he’s done in the past to get his guys traded.

            It didn’t happen.
            Get past it.

          2. And how do you know this? Are you his agent’s friend, associate, intern, ETC…?

    2. Stupid…another reason why I continue to see problems with the reasoning of the front office. This is why I continue to bring up the draft and the off season moves. The Lakers have not shown a consistent direction or plan in years. That’s the major problem. They must fix that.

    3. If they get a top-3 pick, they have a 1st this year, and in 2017.

      But, if you are a championship team, a 1st round pick doesn’t mean much.

        1. If we lose the pick this year. We automatically get the 2017 pick due to league rules. But we would then lose 2018 to Orlando. However, if we keep the pick this year, we get the 2018 pick back.

          1. Are you sure?
            If we keep this year, Orlando gets next year’s pick.
            And Philadelphia gets next years 2nd round, and the following year’s 2nd round.

            Basically, if we keep the pick, the only “owed” 1st round pick would be to Orlando next year. And Philly gets hosed.

          2. Are you sure?
            I’ve researched it pretty good…

            Regardless, if they “keep” this year’s pick, the only “lost” 1st round pick would be next year’s. So it makes a lot of sense to keep it this year. And the top-3 prospects this year happen to align with team needs and are really solid (as of today).

          3. ya im sure. the pick we traded to phily/pho is protected wile the pick to the magic is not.

            the protection was set at top 5(2015), top 3(2016) and unprotected(2017).
            because of league rule we cant give up back to back picks so if phily takes our 2017 pick(aka we keep the pick this off season) the magic cant take the pick in 2018(per rule) and because there are no pertections orlando loses the pick all together for two second rounders in 2017- and 2018

          4. You are probably right…

            If they aren’t going to get Durant, then it makes a lot of sense to get Ben. (or even get ben and see if you can trade for Durant?)

            I’m not sure I see Durant wanting to come to LA. Maybe, but I think he stays in OKC if he can get Westbrook to agree to stay too. And as such, I see that missing the lottery is missing twice.

            Whether its Ben Simmons, Skal, Ingram (or Brown), any of these players plug into team needs and have eye popping potential. So even if the team doesn’t get the #1 pick, the #2 or #3 sure is good too.

            (Btw – currently, the team is on pace for a 10 win season, and soon enough even the bottom tier teams will have 10+ wins and eliminate themselves from the Ben race by January.)

          5. I thought Phili had until 2017 before it becomes a 2nd. Either way though, we get back our 2018 pick if we keep this years pick.

          6. Either way we are still screwed out of a great pick this year and most likely Russell, Randle and maybe Clarkson would have improved their game alot by 2017 and we won’t even be in the lottery that year. Plus with Lakers having so much money next off-season we are bound to pick up somebody to help us to get wins.

          7. No. If we lose our pick this year we are guaranteed our 2017 pick. League doesn’t allow you to trade consecutive draft picks.

          8. I know I meant like we will most likely not get a great or good player out of the pick because we would be almost out of the rebuild by then. That’s because Russell, Randle, and maybe Clarkson would be producing alot more which will add up to wins meaning that 2017 pick won’t be a player who will have much impact on the team. Plus we could end up getting a good player to help the team get wins in this off-season.

    4. We’re not even gonna get to keep the Philly pick. We’d have to be the worst team and hope two spots is a good enough cushion.

      I don’t see us keeping that pick.

      But if we’re still losing (around December or January), it would make sense to unload talent for picks and fully embrace the rebuild + start from scratch with the increased cap.

      On paper, we have talent. But it’s clear Scott sucks, and our youngins are no rubber type raw

  • Yo this is the thing I don’t understand. If we are “rebuilding” why in the would we try to rebuild now when have no 1st rounder in the next couple years. I mean the smartest thing to do would be get players who can compete now not later on the future.

    1. Because we have Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Brown, Nance, Black, Kelly, Sacre on our roster. I see 5 of them as being part of a core rebuild.

        1. Cousins is having enough trouble winning with talent as it is. You really want to put him on a team with an aging Kobe and no future?

          1. Kobe was gonna leave next season anyway. By the way Cousins has just had a sprained Achilles. He is just getting back you know. One more thing who would pass up on a guy like Cousins?

          2. He does also seem to get injured a lot as well. If I was given Cousins I take him. I do not trade our entire future for him though.

          1. His agent spread the rumors…. Just like he’s done in the past to get his guys traded.

            It didn’t happen.
            Get past it.

          2. And how do you know this? Are you his agent’s friend, associate, intern, ETC…?

    2. Stupid…another reason why I continue to see problems with the reasoning of the front office. This is why I continue to bring up the draft and the off season moves. The Lakers have not shown a consistent direction or plan in years. That’s the major problem. They must fix that.

    3. If they get a top-3 pick, they have a 1st this year, and in 2017.

      But, if you are a championship team, a 1st round pick doesn’t mean much.

        1. If we lose the pick this year. We automatically get the 2017 pick due to league rules. But we would then lose 2018 to Orlando. However, if we keep the pick this year, we get the 2018 pick back.

          1. Are you sure?
            If we keep this year, Orlando gets next year’s pick.
            And Philadelphia gets next years 2nd round, and the following year’s 2nd round.

            Basically, if we keep the pick, the only “owed” 1st round pick would be to Orlando next year. And Philly gets hosed.

          2. Are you sure?
            I’ve researched it pretty good…

            Regardless, if they “keep” this year’s pick, the only “lost” 1st round pick would be next year’s. So it makes a lot of sense to keep it this year. And the top-3 prospects this year happen to align with team needs and are really solid (as of today).

          3. ya im sure. the pick we traded to phily/pho is protected wile the pick to the magic is not.

            the protection was set at top 5(2015), top 3(2016) and unprotected(2017).
            because of league rule we cant give up back to back picks so if phily takes our 2017 pick(aka we keep the pick this off season) the magic cant take the pick in 2018(per rule) and because there are no pertections orlando loses the pick all together for two second rounders in 2017- and 2018

          4. You are probably right…

            If they aren’t going to get Durant, then it makes a lot of sense to get Ben. (or even get ben and see if you can trade for Durant?)

            I’m not sure I see Durant wanting to come to LA. Maybe, but I think he stays in OKC if he can get Westbrook to agree to stay too. And as such, I see that missing the lottery is missing twice.

            Whether its Ben Simmons, Skal, Ingram (or Brown), any of these players plug into team needs and have eye popping potential. So even if the team doesn’t get the #1 pick, the #2 or #3 sure is good too.

            (Btw – currently, the team is on pace for a 10 win season, and soon enough even the bottom tier teams will have 10+ wins and eliminate themselves from the Ben race by January. There are 2-3 headscratcher teams that should be MUCH better that will almost invariably rise, and 3 legitimately “bad teams”, but oddly enough most of the bottom tier teams are playing a near .500 and by january and 30 games, they will have too many wins and too many games remaining to stay in the lottery hunt. – Go to ESPN, use Standings, sort by league to see the lottery race.)

          5. I thought Phili had until 2017 before it becomes a 2nd. Either way though, we get back our 2018 pick if we keep this years pick.

          6. Either way we are still screwed out of a great pick this year and most likely Russell, Randle and maybe Clarkson would have improved their game alot by 2017 and we won’t even be in the lottery that year. Plus with Lakers having so much money next off-season we are bound to pick up somebody to help us to get wins.

          7. No. If we lose our pick this year we are guaranteed our 2017 pick. League doesn’t allow you to trade consecutive draft picks.

          8. I know I meant like we will most likely not get a great or good player out of the pick because we would be almost out of the rebuild by then. That’s because Russell, Randle, and maybe Clarkson would be producing alot more which will add up to wins meaning that 2017 pick won’t be a player who will have much impact on the team. Plus we could end up getting a good player to help the team get wins in this off-season.

    4. We’re not even gonna get to keep the Philly pick. We’d have to be the worst team and hope two spots is a good enough cushion.

      I don’t see us keeping that pick.

      But if we’re still losing (around December or January), it would make sense to unload talent for picks and fully embrace the rebuild + start from scratch with the increased cap.

      On paper, we have talent. But it’s clear Scott sucks, and our youngins are no rubber type raw

  • The worse thing of be in a rebuilding position is that: you always think about the future, always think about “how the develop will be”, “will we build just for the draft”, “will we trade soon?”

    that’s really bad. I’m loosing my mind

  • The worse thing of be in a rebuilding position is that: you always think about the future, always think about “how the develop will be”, “will we build just for the draft”, “will we trade soon?”

    that’s really bad. I’m loosing my mind

  • I have a feeling that all of the pressure from fans and media forced BS hand making him play Russell in the 4th and let him close out the game. Russell did however make a couple bad defensive mistakes that probably lost us the game. We’ll see how he handles his minutes next game.

  • I have a feeling that all of the pressure from fans and media forced BS hand making him play Russell in the 4th and let him close out the game. Russell did however make a couple bad defensive mistakes that probably lost us the game. We’ll see how he handles his minutes next game.

  • A message to Byron and the Laker players….

    Do not get down or give up on yourselves, your team mates, or the team.

    Break the season down into 8 sessions of 10 games. It looks like the best we can do in the first 10 is 3-7. So lets aim to finish the last two games of the first 10 on a positive note. Last game was loss on a last second shot. How much closer could that have been?

    Once we get into the second set of 10 games lets aim to win them all one game at a time. But set a goal like going 6-4 and try to top that goal and go 7-3 or better.

    At this point we want to continue to see improvement in individuals and in the team.
    Obviously the Lakers have been in all but about 2 or 3 games. Soon we will pull out a few more of the close games. And we will start building the trust and chemistry that good teams who have played together for a while have.

    Go Lakers !

    Paytc

  • Russell is at 12 PER rating right now.
    Mudiay, Stanley-Johnson, Winslow all at 9 PER.
    Not a good rating for any of them, but maybe a little perspective.

    1. Where is OKafor, Towns and Porzingis? Interesting that you chose guys that were much lower as picks to compare to Russell.

      1. Comparing guards/wings. Rookie bigs always post high PER due to the weight of rebounding vs turnovers.

          1. Would you compare Russell to Mudiay or Towns? Stop arguing about things there are no arguments over.

          2. I’m just pointing out the fact that you and others continue to find more ways to defend Russell, that all. I’ll leave it alone. It’s just funny how one guy is getting so many different arguments.

        1. Yes I am. I am biased against Russell because I don’t want him to succeed and instead want the Lakers to have wasted a number 2 pick on a guy that can’t fulfill on the potential he is believed to have. Yes, as a Lakers fan, I want the team to continue struggling all because I am a fan boy that doesn’t want Russell to be great!

          Really?

        1. Does PER take in considerations like having to Check Lebron, George or shutting down Harden, night in night out?

  • A message to Byron and the Laker players….

    Do not get down or give up on yourselves, your team mates, or the team.

    Break the season down into 8 sessions of 10 games. It looks like the best we can do in the first 10 is 3-7. So lets aim to finish the last two games of the first 10 on a positive note. Last game was loss on a last second shot. How much closer could that have been?

    Once we get into the second set of 10 games lets aim to win them all one game at a time. But set a goal like going 6-4 and try to top that goal and go 7-3 or better.

    At this point we want to continue to see improvement in individuals and in the team.
    Obviously the Lakers have been in all but about 2 or 3 games. Soon we will pull out a few more of the close games. And we will start building the trust and chemistry that good teams who have played together for a while have.

    Go Lakers !

    Paytc

  • Russell is at 12 PER rating right now.
    Mudiay, Stanley-Johnson, Winslow all at 9 PER.
    Not a good rating for any of them, but maybe a little perspective.

    1. Where is OKafor, Towns and Porzingis? Interesting that you chose guys that were much lower as picks to compare to Russell.

      1. Comparing guards/wings. Rookie bigs always post high PER due to the weight of rebounding vs turnovers.

          1. Would you compare Russell to Mudiay or Towns? Stop arguing about things there are no arguments over.

          2. I’m just pointing out the fact that you and others continue to find more ways to defend Russell, that all. I’ll leave it alone. It’s just funny how one guy is getting so many different arguments.

      2. Yes I am. I am biased against Russell because I don’t want him to succeed and instead want the Lakers to have wasted a number 2 pick on a guy that can’t fulfill on the potential he is believed to have. Yes, as a Lakers fan, I want the team to continue struggling all because I am a fan boy that doesn’t want Russell to be great!

        Really?

        1. Does PER take in considerations like having to Check Lebron, George or shutting down Harden, night in night out?

  • iam sorry but isn’t that the EXACT reason u play him. dis guy is a complete character we need a guy who can relate 2 these young players. Scott thinks he’s the Oracle of head coaching

  • iam sorry but isn’t that the EXACT reason u play him. dis guy is a complete character we need a guy who can relate 2 these young players. Scott thinks he’s the Oracle of head coaching

  • When things don’t always go right, don’t always look at the Coach, if not
    getting the Ball as a player, don’t always look at the Coach, its not always the Coaches Fault

    Players Can’t Rely on Coach Byron, “They must Rely on themselves”

    Players have to go out and execute the Plays, take responsibility to look at themselves, first

  • When things don’t always go right, don’t always look at the Coach, if not
    getting the Ball as a player, don’t always look at the Coach, its not always the Coaches Fault

    Players Can’t Rely on Coach Byron, “They must Rely on themselves”

    Players have to go out and execute the Plays, take responsibility to look at themselves, first

    1. Russell doesn’t have to earn it…he’s the number 2 pick! It’s in his contract that should get 40 minutes a night including all of the 4th quarter!

  • And you Byron aren’t the best coach for this team just because you are part of the Laker family/history.

          1. to come off the bench get pt learn the game then start 15-20 games into the season??? yep agreed 100%

          2. Russell knows better than you how best to use him. He deserves to play as much as any of the other lottery picks. It is disrespectful to do otherwise!

          3. He needs to play to help his development. Game minutes are the key. They are the only minutes that are meaningful!

          4. No minutes are meaningful unless he starts and plays in the fourth of a close game with the ball in his hands!

          5. Disrespectful? How about he earn those minutes. Just because the Laker took him at 2nd overall doesn’t mean he gets a pass on not earning his keep.

          6. Russell knows all about passing…He earned the minutes when he got the pick!

          7. He not even averaging 2 assist a game. No you dont earn minutes by being 2nd overall pick. Like Byron said he still has to work on his defense. If her cant defend he wont play.

          8. Based on who they play over him it’s kind of a no brainer. Giving Huertas minutes over him is laughable.

          9. Westbrook, Lillard, Rose, tons more. It’s a long list of high picks who started.

          10. Proves nothing. They were in the same boat as Russell. Poor picks…. Porzingus or Okafor would have LA in a far better place. Russell so far not very good and needs to play to see if he has anything. Maybe, He should have been a second rounder but the press ran away with some kind of super hype and bolted him ahead of many who are obviously better.

          11. He not a real # 2 at this point. The other top 5 pick are far more advanced with their game. If the draft was done today with what we know now. Russell wouldn’t even be top 5 maybe not even top 10.

          12. Well said. Kupchek and Jimmy failed along with the so called advanced scouting system.

        1. It’s in Russell’s contract that he should start and play fourth quarters. Byron just found out before the last game. Russell will be in every fourth quarter from now on.

  • And you Byron aren’t the best coach for this team just because you are part of the Laker family/history.

          1. to come off the bench get pt learn the game then start 15-20 games into the season??? yep agreed 100%

          2. Russell knows better than you how best to use him. He deserves to play as much as any of the other lottery picks. It is disrespectful to do otherwise!

          3. He needs to play to help his development. Game minutes are the key. They are the only minutes that are meaningful!

          4. No minutes are meaningful unless he starts and plays in the fourth of a close game with the ball in his hands!

          5. Disrespectful? How about he earn those minutes. Just because the Laker took him at 2nd overall doesn’t mean he gets a pass on not earning his keep.

          6. Russell knows all about passing…He earned the minutes when he got the pick!

          7. He not even averaging 2 assist a game. No you dont earn minutes by being 2nd overall pick. Like Byron said he still has to work on his defense. If he cant defend he wont play.

          8. Based on who they play over him it’s kind of a no brainer. Giving Huertas minutes over him is laughable.

          9. Westbrook, Lillard, Rose, tons more. It’s a long list of high picks who started.

          10. Proves nothing. They were in the same boat as Russell. Poor picks…. Porzingus or Okafor would have LA in a far better place. Russell so far not very good and needs to play to see if he has anything. Maybe, He should have been a second rounder but the press ran away with some kind of super hype and bolted him ahead of many who are obviously better.

          11. He not a real # 2 at this point. The other top 5 pick are far more advanced with their game. If the draft was done today with what we know now. Russell wouldn’t even be top 5 maybe not even top 10.

          12. Well said. Kupchek and Jimmy failed along with the so called advanced scouting system.

        1. It’s in Russell’s contract that he should start and play fourth quarters. Byron just found out before the last game. Russell will be in every fourth quarter from now on.

  • Russell doesn’t have to earn it…he’s the number 2 pick! It’s in his contract that should get 40 minutes a night including all of the 4th quarter!

  • There is no question he needs to play to gain experience. The BS comment throwing him into the wolves is what he’s worried about that is just absurd. Reason being, If he doesn’t have the mental ability, a killer type instinct…. then he never will be worth picking 2nd. He had an ok game in the 4th quarter mostly because Kobe didn’t play and he was vanilla not ruffling any feathers. LA in fact would have not been in the position of having a winning shot with Kobe’s normal 6 for 19 shooting. He doesn’t seem to demonstrate any kind of mental toughness and that’s why everyone is doubting him being the No 2 pick. I would have liked to see him take the last shot or at least handle the ball getting it to maybe Randle. The toughness needed is what really separates the great players. Not sure that can be learned.

    1. the fact that you just said that with kobe we would not have had a chance last game means your whole post is trash.

      the lakers are averaging

      105 ppg with kobe
      93.5 with out kobe

      kobe is worth 11.5 ppg to this team

      1. What does that prove? In your 105 points Kobe was shooting 30% …It’s still clear they would have scored more without him.

        1. the team cant score with out kobe 105 with kobe

          93.5 with out

          0-2 with out kobe
          1-5 with kobe

          aka team is better with kobe

          1. Anyone reading this would say you are. Man saying 1-5 with Kobe is a good thing and his shooting skill created this awesome stat! You are comical.

          2. the team has been better when kobe is on the court every stat shows it sorry it does not fit your moronic view of the games

          3. Clearly they are better without Kobe…still not a winning team…but we don’t play to win anymore, we play to be better! Development! They are built for this!

          4. 93.5 ppg with out one good for 27th in the nba

            105ppg with kobe good for 4th in the league

          5. Save the rational comments for somewhere else. You are such an anti Laker!

    2. Doesn’t demonstrate mental toughness? Dude has been poised and continues to improve despite all the criticism. I’d call that pretty tough.

      1. Didn’t seem to want the ball last night. Last possession. Kinda ran away from Williams to the other side.

        1. According to Scott, the play called was a PnR, but Williams waved it off. That said, I do agree with you that he hasn’t been demanding the ball, but I wouldn’t necessarily call that a sign of mental weakness. In fact, I’ve noticed that about Clarkson as well — sometimes he needs to be more selfish.

          1. Just trying to think of killer type players might have done say like a Westbrook. Even as a rookie he had a fairly brash attitude as a No 4 pick.

          2. Fair enough. I’m assuming Russell is more Jedi than Sith and will be better when he’s calm and in control, kinda like Mark Price.

    3. Everybody plays better without Kobe. Pau Gasol was winning championships long before he had pitty on Kobe and came to LA. Kobe owes Pau. Lamar Odom is a HOF who wasted his time trying to life up Kobe Bryant! Russell is ready for the bright lights. He was built for this!

      He should be coaching himself. The person that knows best what is best for Russell is Russell! He is built for this!

          1. yeah, I’m just clowning…I manage an chat-based support team and they have my permission to use whatever slang/short-hand they want.

  • There is no question he needs to play to gain experience. The BS comment throwing him into the wolves is what he’s worried about that is just absurd. Reason being, If he doesn’t have the mental ability, a killer type instinct…. then he never will be worth picking 2nd. He had an ok game in the 4th quarter mostly because Kobe didn’t play and he was vanilla not ruffling any feathers. LA in fact would have not been in the position of having a winning shot with Kobe’s normal 6 for 19 shooting. He doesn’t seem to demonstrate any kind of mental toughness and that’s why everyone is doubting him being the No 2 pick. I would have liked to see him take the last shot or at least handle the ball getting it to maybe Randle. The toughness needed is what really separates the great players. Not sure that can be learned.

    1. the fact that you just said that with kobe we would not have had a chance last game means your whole post is trash.

      the lakers are averaging

      105 ppg with kobe
      93.5 with out kobe

      kobe is worth 11.5 ppg to this team

      1. What does that prove? In your 105 points Kobe was shooting 30% …It’s still clear they would have scored more without him.

        1. the team cant score with out kobe 105 with kobe

          93.5 with out

          0-2 with out kobe
          1-5 with kobe

          aka team is better with kobe

          1. Anyone reading this would say you are. Man saying 1-5 with Kobe is a good thing and his shooting skill created this awesome stat! You are comical.

          2. the team has been better when kobe is on the court every stat shows it sorry it does not fit your moronic view of the games

          3. Clearly they are better without Kobe…still not a winning team…but we don’t play to win anymore, we play to be better! Development! They are built for this!

          4. 93.5 ppg with out one good for 27th in the nba

            105ppg with kobe good for 4th in the league

          5. Save the rational comments for somewhere else. You are such an anti Laker!

    2. Doesn’t demonstrate mental toughness? Dude has been poised and continues to improve despite all the criticism. I’d call that pretty tough.

      1. Didn’t seem to want the ball last night. Last possession. Kinda ran away from Williams to the other side.

        1. According to Scott, the play called was a PnR, but Williams waved it off. That said, I do agree with you that he hasn’t been demanding the ball, but I wouldn’t necessarily call that a sign of mental weakness. In fact, I’ve noticed that about Clarkson as well — sometimes he needs to be more selfish.

          1. Just trying to think of killer type players might have done say like a Westbrook. Even as a rookie he had a fairly brash attitude as a No 4 pick.

          2. Fair enough. I’m assuming Russell is more Jedi than Sith and will be better when he’s calm and in control, kinda like Mark Price.

    3. Everybody plays better without Kobe. Pau Gasol was winning championships long before he had pitty on Kobe and came to LA. Kobe owes Pau. Lamar Odom is a HOF who wasted his time trying to life up Kobe Bryant! Russell is ready for the bright lights. He was built for this!

      He should be coaching himself. The person that knows best what is best for Russell is Russell! He is built for this!

          1. yeah, I’m just clowning…I manage an online chat-based support team and they have my permission to use whatever slang/short-hand they want.

  • As a harsh critic of Russell and his 2nd overall pick. I was encouraged by his play. He finally drove through the middle and showed some aggression. I like his stroke. The thing i was most impressed with was not anything he did on the court. But it was what he said after the game. When asked if he was happy to play in the 4th and log the most minutes on the team. He said ” All that is irrelevant, we lost.” I said whoa…..he starting to learn the Laker way. I’m still not totally sold on the kid. Okafor is the first rookie to average 20pt on 50% shooting thru the first 8 games. I still say Okafor was the better pick. But Russell getting better.

    1. I’m in the same position as you, and also was happy Russell’s aggression. At this point we’ve got to role with him and hope he figures it out. No use crying over spilled milk. I think it would be better to try and figure out soon-to-be FA that would be attractive for LAL.

      1. Well I’m sure the Lakers ( at least i hope ) have certain targets their hoping to get. Whiteside is going to be unrestricted after this season. He’s young and is up and coming as a front court force. Lakers cant take their time pitching the top dog FA. While letting guys like a Monroe slide to the bucks. If you know what i mean. But the Lakers are going to need to show growth with this youth core of Russell Clarkson and Randle, to attract FA. We’ve seen flashes from Clarkson Randle and a little with Russell. But they haven’t all put it together all at once. They can get there. But it starts with Russell. He has to run this offense like he means it. Show us this vision we heard so much about. And get the ball to these guys at their spots.

          1. I’m not mad at that. But Whiteside is proving himself on the pro level. He may want to play for the Lakers IDK.

          2. you should delete this comment asap!!! there’s a chance that upshaw never even sets foot on a nba court he’s far from a professional bb player

  • As a harsh critic of Russell and his 2nd overall pick. I was encouraged by his play. He finally drove through the middle and showed some aggression. I like his stroke. The thing i was most impressed with was not anything he did on the court. But it was what he said after the game. When asked if he was happy to play in the 4th and log the most minutes on the team. He said ” All that is irrelevant, we lost.” I said whoa…..he starting to learn the Laker way. I’m still not totally sold on the kid. Okafor is the first rookie to average 20pt on 50% shooting thru the first 8 games. I still say Okafor was the better pick. But Russell getting better.

    1. I’m in the same position as you, and also was happy Russell’s aggression. At this point we’ve got to role with him and hope he figures it out. No use crying over spilled milk. I think it would be better to try and figure out soon-to-be FA that would be attractive for LAL.

      1. Well I’m sure the Lakers ( at least i hope ) have certain targets their hoping to get. Whiteside is going to be unrestricted after this season. He’s young and is up and coming as a front court force. Lakers cant take their time pitching the top dog FA. While letting guys like a Monroe slide to the bucks. If you know what i mean. But the Lakers are going to need to show growth with this youth core of Russell Clarkson and Randle, to attract FA. We’ve seen flashes from Clarkson Randle and a little with Russell. But they haven’t all put it together all at once. They can get there. But it starts with Russell. He has to run this offense like he means it. Show us this vision we heard so much about. And get the ball to these guys at their spots.

          1. I’m not mad at that. But Whiteside is proving himself on the pro level. He may want to play for the Lakers IDK.

          2. you should delete this comment asap!!! there’s a chance that upshaw never even sets foot on a nba court he’s far from a professional bb player

  • There’s nothing wrong with this approach…Scott’s problem has been defining Russell’s role — whether he starts or finishes, his role should be the same. No more of this off-ball/two-guard nonsense.

    Run him at the point with the first team or the second team, but just run him at the point. The position is difficult enough as it is…asking him to learn it while he plays another is absurd.

      1. If you don’t like Russell, maybe find another team. He is our future. Clippers always have openings for fans.

        1. Yes, because I clearly am not a Lakers fan because Lakers fans give their future to an unproven rookie. I have spent too much time rooting for Kobe Bryant…what has he ever done for the Lakers? Russell is the man now and for the future!

          1. Didn’t say you weren’t a fan, just saying if you don’t like him maybe you should find a different team to be a fan of. He is a Laker. And the Team plans for him to be a big part of the Lakers.

          2. Yes. I became a fan because of one player so I clearly will leave because of one player. That’s what fans do!

          3. Never. I have nothing positive to say about this championship team! How dare I not talk about all the great things that are happening. Can’t wait for Byron to get that COY award, Russell is clearly ROY candidate and Hibbert will be MIP! Championship here we come!

          4. It doesn’t pay to answer questions soundly in here, so I’ve decided to stop doing it for a while. This so much more fun!

            Answering soundly still results in name calling, poorly constructed responses and meaningless fodder about a subject none us have any power to change.

          5. Yes, because this message board is my whole life! I am not built for this!

          6. It seems like it is your whole life. I check in from work and I see you posting. I check in at home and guess what? You’re still posting. So you might be right when you say this is your whole life.

          7. Yes, because it is clearly not possible that I could be running a successful business and also posting at the same time! Not possible at all. You are so wise. You must be built for this!

          8. It’s clearly not possible since a successful business requires ones full attention ;).

          9. I think we have a new Russ club of loud, unrealistic and annoying fans. Lin left and we got Russ. Same old crazies. Sigh. Are you in the Russ club, Pat???

        2. If he’s Lakers’s future, oh man we are doomed. Fan boy types like you are should zip it if you have nothing better to say.

  • There’s nothing wrong with this approach…Scott’s problem has been defining Russell’s role — whether he starts or finishes, his role should be the same. No more of this off-ball/two-guard nonsense.

    Run him at the point with the first team or the second team, but just run him at the point. The position is difficult enough as it is…asking him to learn it while he plays another is absurd.

      1. If you don’t like Russell, maybe find another team. He is our future. Clippers always have openings for fans.

        1. Yes, because I clearly am not a Lakers fan because Lakers fans give their future to an unproven rookie. I have spent too much time rooting for Kobe Bryant…what has he ever done for the Lakers? Russell is the man now and for the future!

          1. Didn’t say you weren’t a fan, just saying if you don’t like him maybe you should find a different team to be a fan of. He is a Laker. And the Team plans for him to be a big part of the Lakers.

          2. Yes. I became a fan because of one player so I clearly will leave because of one player. That’s what fans do!

          3. Never. I have nothing positive to say about this championship team! How dare I not talk about all the great things that are happening. Can’t wait for Byron to get that COY award, Russell is clearly ROY candidate and Hibbert will be MIP! Championship here we come!

          4. It doesn’t pay to answer questions soundly in here, so I’ve decided to stop doing it for a while. This so much more fun!

            Answering soundly still results in name calling, poorly constructed responses and meaningless fodder about a subject none us have any power to change.

          5. Yes, because this message board is my whole life! I am not built for this!

          6. It seems like it is your whole life. I check in from work and I see you posting. I check in at home and guess what? You’re still posting. So you might be right when you say this is your whole life.